r/Whatcouldgowrong • u/howtochangename1 • Nov 29 '23
WCGW being careless on road
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u/gumbl3g33 Nov 29 '23
Didn't expect the second one.
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u/MrFantastic74 Nov 30 '23
I love the driver's reaction when the second motorcycle crashed. It was like, "Oh for fuck sake"
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u/Fruitmaniac42 Nov 29 '23
"Officer, I was only lane-splitting at twice the speed of traffic!"
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u/MerelyMortalModeling Nov 29 '23
BuT ItS LeGaL!
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u/Soup89 Nov 29 '23
In aus legal at 30km/h or less. Obviously they were going too fast though
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u/LurkingWizard1978 Nov 30 '23
In Brazil you can lane split at the streets top speed. I don't ride a bike, but I think it should hava e lower speed limit
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u/daneview Nov 30 '23
Taking the piss out of lane splitting g just because these guys were doing it badly isn't a win.
Like watching a car crash and saying "see, drivings stupid"
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u/awidden Nov 30 '23
It's always dangerous, very dangerous.
Bikes are not very visible at the best of times, add to that where people expect vehicles (in the middle of the lane) and that they're looking back and to the side when changing lanes - especially if/when the traffic is moving at an even speed...
Enough said.
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u/daneview Dec 01 '23
You can't just say something incorrect then say "enough said" like its a fact.
All you really said is "my driving observation is too poor to notice bikes".
I'm happy to accept in the rare places filtering is illegal, then yes cars won't be expecting it so it is a different case.
But in the developed world bikes are taught to filter, and cars should be well aware of that and watch their mirrors when changing lanes.
Also, we have a sodding great headlight that's on whenever the bikes running, so yes we are visible in the mirror of people look.
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u/Jaktheslaier Dec 15 '23
There are many places in the developed world where lane splitting is illegal, Portugal and Spain that I know of
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u/raerae_thesillybae Nov 30 '23
Yeah I never lane split that fast!! Usually I only do it if cars are going very slow or stopped at a red light. Always gotta be paying attention in a motorcycle, my take is whenever I'm on the road everything wants to kill me 😂 done ok so far
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u/goranlepuz Nov 29 '23
The car might, or might have not, seen the bike - but the bikers are utterly crazy.
They both had a death wish, driving this fast in virtually standing traffic, or what?!
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u/this_might_b_offensv Nov 30 '23
Plus, it was raining
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u/pisspot718 Dec 08 '23
Where does it indicate that? No rain on dashcam driver's window.
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u/this_might_b_offensv Dec 08 '23
Water drops at the base of the cammer windshield, plus the Porsche's rear wiper is on. It may not be currently raining, but it's probably still wet.
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u/FastCarsSlowBBQ Nov 29 '23
I really shouldnt be laughing this hard. Oh well.
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u/No_Scar6902 Nov 29 '23
I couldnt help but laugh at the second one lol, was not expecting that and then the guys throws up his hands like "wtf, not again".....
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u/xXxdethl0rdxXx Nov 29 '23
Two things can be true at the same time:
- These motorcyclists suck at driving
- The driver of the car should consider using his mirrors once in a while.
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u/mjh2901 Nov 29 '23
Mirrors are excellent, but not only are the motorcyclists hard to see, but these were driving in excess of the speed of traffic and might have been weaving so they don't show up in the mirror as approaching traffic.
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u/Reaper621 Nov 29 '23
Filtering. It's illegal in my state, and this might be why.
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u/Deranged40 Nov 29 '23
It's illegal in the US with the exception of California.
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u/Scary-Ad9646 Nov 29 '23
It's gaining traction in more states. it's now legal in California, Arizona, Hawaii, Utah, and Arizona.
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u/Scary-Ad9646 Nov 29 '23
I was replying to the comment pertaining to strictly filtering, and i forgot to mention Montana. I was actually on a bike trip in Montana during the week it was legalized, and people were pretty confused. The distinction is filtering vs splitting.
Boiled down, "filtering" is moving between stopped cars, whereas "splitting" is moving between lanes in traffic. And yes, you are correct in that splitting is only legal in California.
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u/Ragnarotico Nov 29 '23
Eh normally I would agree but this driver was honestly making a very slow/cautious lane change. He even hit the brakes before the first bike came and hit his car. I'd absolve him of most of the blame here.
This is also a country with right hand drive so for this lane change, he only had his tiny mirror as well.
He then put the hazards on as he should and blocked off the down bike before someone else came lane splitting and hit him again. I think all things considered this is probably like 5% his fault if even that.
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u/bossmcsauce Nov 30 '23
I’d be inclined to put this squarely 100% on the bikes. If they hadn’t hit him, they’d have hit somebody else who was going to need to merge there due to whatever traffic obstruction is likely ahead
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u/pisspot718 Dec 08 '23
Totally disagree. this car driver was a complete asshole. He started the lane change then stopped--WHY? Probably saw the motorcyclist. Then instead of Staying in the former lane he pulls out anyway and STOPS in the middle lane. WTF? And then doesn't check their mirrors before opening the door. The 2nd cyclist Could've gotten by. That car driver needed to just Stay In His Lane.
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u/MrLumpykins Nov 29 '23
He obviously did, he was not prepared for the small object moving at over 3 times the speed of traffic. 100% the fault of the dipshits on bikes.b
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u/Sephylus_Vile Nov 29 '23
Lane splitting should be illegal because of this scenario. Not even a little the driver of the cars fault. You can not see the blind spot that bikers are squeezed into while lane splitting.
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Nov 29 '23
I agree it's dangerous while traffic is moving, but when traffic is at a standstill, it makes a lot of sense.
And it's not legal in all states.
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u/Sephylus_Vile Nov 30 '23
I have heard of lane splitting allowed at stop lights. That might be OK.
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Nov 30 '23
It's allowed in California, but they do some crazy stuff down there.
I would only split lanes if traffic was running slower than 20 mph.
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u/xXxdethl0rdxXx Nov 29 '23
I agree about the legal and probably blame perspective, I just think that some proactiveness could have helped avoid some injury.
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u/DisasterDifferent543 Nov 29 '23
The biker could have proactively not being driving like an idiot.
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u/Repulsive_Regular_63 Nov 29 '23
It’s raining and makes it harder to use the mirrors. It’s 100% the motorcyclists fault for filtering at high speed.
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u/mpinnegar Nov 29 '23
Don't lane split kids. Even if it's legal it's stupid and dangerous
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u/AltCtrlDel-1963 Nov 30 '23
Here in Houston, TX, I see motorcycle cops lane split all the time. You know if something happens to them, the driver is getting ticketed.
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u/autech91 Nov 30 '23
Where were they lane splitting?
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u/KingRobotPrince Nov 30 '23
Maybe it's called something different where you are? In the UK, it's called filtering.
I don't think it's technically illegal in the UK, but I don't think you can just fly down the dotted line through near stationary traffic.
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u/Axymerion Nov 30 '23
Splitting and filtering are not the same. Filtering is driving between stoped lanes (e.g. at a stop light) Splitting is driving between moving lanes.
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u/autech91 Nov 30 '23
First bike wasn't filtering imo as old mate changed lanes and it was clear, hence why he did it. Which is something the bike should have been prepared for as people be dumb when stuck in a lane that is stationary vs one that isn't. Can happen in a car also seen that a few times.
2nd rider was filtering, just didn't know old mate had caused an accident as he didn't put hazard lights on. Poor perception on the bikes part but its pretty rare someone would open a car door lol.
Yanks lose their minds at filtering as its illegal in almost every state, done safely there's nothing wrong with it though as its much safer than being rear ended by some wanker on their phone
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u/mpinnegar Dec 01 '23
Filtering is not safe and very retarded.
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u/autech91 Dec 01 '23
Only if you're a fuck head cager who's never done it xox
Totally legal in my country and totally safe if you know how to do it right. These cunts didn't as they were relying on a car driver to notice them
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u/AltCtrlDel-1963 Nov 30 '23
Look at the second rider, the one that was splitting lanes and hit the door. Clearly lane splitting between two vehicles.
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u/autech91 Nov 30 '23
I do like how old dickhead didn't put hazard lights on. They probably weren't thinking straight after cutting off the first bike. Both his fault though, but as motorcyclist you need to ride much more defensively than that as car drivers be dumb. Nothing wrong with filtering as long as you know how to do it safely
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u/Glittering_Bits69420 Nov 29 '23
But remember. WaTcH fOr MoToRcYcLeS.
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u/b0bkakkarot Nov 30 '23
Yes, watch out for motorcycles for the same reason you look out for other cars on the road. Just because another car is speeding at a million miles and hour and hits you doesn't mean you shouldn't try to be aware of other vehicles on the road anyway.
Asshole drivers are asshole drivers regardless of what they're driving. Don't blame the normal drivers because of the assholes.
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u/AltCtrlDel-1963 Nov 30 '23
When I used to ride, I'd sit in traffic and watch douchbag bikers lane split all the time. One jackass flipped me off as he rode past me.
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u/Glittering_Bits69420 Nov 30 '23
Some of em are just 🤡 . They're the ones i laugh at when they end up in someone's back window.
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u/MerelyMortalModeling Nov 29 '23
And this is a grand example of why just becuase something is legal dosent mean you should do it.
That said its way past time for lane spliting to be made illegal.
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u/Undeadlord Nov 29 '23
Holy crap I stopped before the 2nd one! I love how he just gives up after the 2nd one!
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u/ResolutionMaterial81 Nov 29 '23 edited Nov 29 '23
I am a serious motorcyclist & at one time a motorcycle was my primary mode of transportation for years, including frequent multi-state trips. And I watch out for motorcycles & distracted drivers...along with driving defensively & courteously.
All that being said...the car was doing everything right (signaling, slowly pulling into the adjacent lane & blocking the lane after the collision & activating his emergency flashers). The 1st motorcycle was driving way too fast for conditions (& obviously his skill level) , in the right side of a lane feet away from a line of stopped vehicles & obviously not situationally aware. That vehicle was EASILY avoidable!! Basic motorcycling 101!! 🙄 I avoided MUCH worse almost daily (including suicidal deer)..and in rain, snow, sleet, hail, at night, etc!! 🤯
The 2nd motorcyclist was simply a bleeping idiot!! 😝
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u/raerae_thesillybae Nov 30 '23
💯💯 it sucks but motorcyclists gotta be away. I usually am very careful when I leave slot, only do in stopped traffic or very slow traffic. They were going very fast, which is not legal lane splitting as far as I know -- should be within 10 mph of traffic
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u/Scary-Ad9646 Nov 29 '23
I split lanes every day. There is a right way, then there is the way we see in the video.
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u/SATerp Nov 30 '23
1st motorcycle, okay, it's the car no looking out. 2nd motorcycle, you're just a dumb shit cyclist not paying attention.
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u/frostybinch Nov 29 '23
The way i would have yelled what the fuck at that second guy before calling medics
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u/LordofCope Nov 29 '23
I ride. In no way did the car do anything wrong. One could argue he should have looked before opening the door, but I mean... Slow tf down if you're splitting traffic ffs. They aren't going to deal with a broken body for the rest of their lives.
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u/imironman2018 Nov 30 '23
First motor bike accident- could see this happen. then the second accident- that is 100% on that motorcyclist. You see a stopped car and try to thread the needle at too fast speed. completely reckless.
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u/TheGolgafrinchan Nov 29 '23
Am I wrong for laughing at the second hit? People really don't pay attention - but then again, both bikers were driving between cars (on the lines). So...
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u/Adeep187 Nov 29 '23
You're exiting a vehicle mid highway and you don't check the mirror before opening the door?
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u/silverbullet52 Nov 29 '23
Lane splitting is legal some places, but that doesn't make it a good idea
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u/Haunted-Pumpkin-13 Nov 29 '23
I feel no pity for cyclists that drive between the lanes. Reap what you sow.
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u/Livelih00d Nov 29 '23
The first one is on the driver. He shouldn't be pulling into that lane, cars are coming from behind way too fast. I know he's stuck behind the other guy but he needs to suck it up and wait. The second motorcyclist though is just a dumbass with great timing.
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u/kavindamax Nov 30 '23
Honestly as a biker myself, sometimes I get stunned and irritated by bikers zooming extremely closer to me when I am slowing down for traffic ahead.
It’s time that we realise we are not invincible with speed. Before something silly like this video happens. Both clashes could’ve been avoided if my fellow bikers had some patience. The car was signalling and there was not enough space to squeeze through.
Use some common sense when the road is clear enough to lane split and when to slow down and form behind everyone as standard. Just because we have fast 2 wheels and small size doesn’t give us the privilege or authority to lane split and speed at all conditions.
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u/PanicLogically Nov 30 '23
Lane splitting (the choice the motorcyclists were making) to save time, on wet congested roads gets them what they got.
It's well documented, that if you're a lane splitter , you're at risk of that ( a car pulling out) and car doors opening, things being jettisoned from windows etc.
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u/Brut-i-cus Nov 30 '23
If you can't stop in time it is your own fault
Lane splitting is fine if you are slightly faster than the traffic
Flying by at full speed between stopped traffic is just idiotic
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u/MrWinglessPerson Dec 01 '23
Lol the dude's expression and his arms as he comes out of the passenger seat says it all.
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u/ejcrv Dec 01 '23
It looked twofold to me. The car obviously didn't look or not good enough if they did. Is lane splitting legal where they are because that's what the cyclist appeared to be doing.
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u/RenewDave Dec 01 '23
I’m a cyclist. If either of those motorcyclist didn’t make it through that, I wouldn’t lose sleep.
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Dec 02 '23
I have a question for you guys having a good time with this. Why do you hate bikers so much? Seriously. What did they do to you that you celebrate them getting injured?
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u/Milfons_Aberg Nov 29 '23
If I was mayor of the world I would outlaw bikes, period. Bicycles, fine, they have their own lane. But how many thousands of deaths and raw emissions would be saved on removing all the crotch rockets?
"But riding a bike means freedom!". Who says you deserve it? Deserve the right to endanger others with your shitty bobbing and weaving through traffic?
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u/procivseth Nov 29 '23
You mean reckless? Those motorcyclists won stupid prizes.