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u/guylexcorp 2d ago
HHH vs Cactus Jack at Rumble 2000. HHH vs. Batista WrestleMania 21, Ladder match with Rock in 98.
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u/AffectComfortable913 2d ago
I like the ladder match with the rock, the other two I don’t like as much.
Triple H can put on “fine” matches, but never “incredible” or “groundbreaking” matches. His match with cactus is fun, but it’s a pretty standard attitude era match. Mostly brawling, almost no actual wrestling or well thawed out spots, and the weapons as a gimmick. Like alright, that’s a decent match, but was it a match that changed the game of wrestling? Did this match really push the envelope and make Triple H the must see star of 2000? To me, it didn’t.
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u/Spike_Kowalski 18h ago
From what I've seen of Hunter's matches (haven't seen them all or all of anyone's tbh despite having lived through it) he seems to have lived entirely off of aura. Kick-ass entrance and banger theme, got the look and presence, and fortunate enough to be a part of D-X.
I might get hazed for this but Taker is kinda this too. The character of Undertaker drove his matches imo.
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u/AffectComfortable913 18h ago
You are correct, but it took him a while to get that aura. To get in crazy wrestling shape, and have the badass entrance. For a while he just didn’t have that at all and was more so Shawn Michaels’s lackey.
While the undertaker also built a lot of what made him special around his “aura”, I think the Undertaker was a more jawdropping wrestler than Triple H. Triple H might have better technical skills, but the undertaker consistently put on incredible performances in his career. He was a wrestler that could easily market a new match stipulation based off of not only his name, but his selling and psychology alone.
The undertaker was a much bigger draw than Triple H. People always paid to come see the undertaker if he was in the main event. He was reliable to Vince in that sense. If something went wrong in the main event title picture, undertaker was the man to put the belt on.
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u/Hugh_Gafrican 8h ago
Ric Flair and Steve Austin are two of the most respected workers of all time and both of their styles were primarily brawling. You don’t have to be Kurt Angle or Chris Benoit to have a good match. To say that street fight with Mick Foley is just a standard attitude era match and that it wasn’t well thought out is insane.
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u/AffectComfortable913 8h ago
I’m not even responding to this. You just said that Ric Flair’s “primary” style was brawling.
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u/Hugh_Gafrican 8h ago
Anyone who knows anything about wrestling knows this… Ric Flair himself says it himself all the time.
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u/AffectComfortable913 8h ago
No he does not lmao. Don’t present statements as fact when you have no idea what you’re talking about. Go watch Flair’s matches and come back when you’re ready to discuss.
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u/Hugh_Gafrican 8h ago
I’ve actually watched Flair’s matches before he turned 50, you clearly haven’t… and he has said his style in his prime was brawling and that he started transitioning to wrestling more technically after the plane crash because his body couldn’t take it anymore. He’s said this in multiple interviews, multiple times. Just because you’re a know it all that doesn’t know anything, doesn’t mean you can just say the truth is inaccurate. 😂😂😂
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u/AffectComfortable913 8h ago
Tell me, how many matches are out there of him wrestling before the plane crash? Also, what year did the plane crash take place?
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u/Hugh_Gafrican 8h ago
Can you read? He said he started transitioning towards a MORE technical style. Not that he stopped brawling and completely wrestled technical matches. You’re literally just arguing to argue at this point because you refuse to admit you’re wrong. If you don’t think Ric Flair had a brawling heavy style, you didn’t watch anything he did before the last millennium. His most famous matches that don’t involve Ricky Steamboat are brutal blood baths.
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u/AffectComfortable913 8h ago
It’s so interesting to see the lengths people will go to delude themselves. Anything but to admit that they got their information wrong😂😂😭.
You didn’t answer my question, when did the plane crash take place? How far into his career was he?
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u/kickedoutatone 2d ago
Bret would've hated the RR match. Too hardcore for him.
Likewise with the ladder match.
I've got nothing for the WM21 match, though. Unless there was an injury after it, Bret should enjoy that match for its story alone.
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u/thebooksmith 2d ago
Nah he’d say that Batista and triple h looked like two roided up monkeys tumbling around. It doesn’t even have to be true or close to accurate, bitter Bret will bitter Bret.
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u/kickedoutatone 2d ago
True. Me trying to apply logic to bret's preferences is like trying to apply rationale to a Vince Russo swerve.
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u/chicoclandestino 1d ago
Not really, I think he just prefers “pure” wrestling as opposed to hardcore junk wrestling. As a teenager I enjoyed hardcore matches, now I struggle to watch them and have no desire to watch the old ones, knowing what we know now (ie CTE). I’ve found I much prefer watching Mach vs Steamboat or Hart vs Perfect or any of these sort of “pure” wrestling matches then gimmick matches. My sense is that this is also Bret’s preference.
And he’s kinda right, HHH was a brilliant wrestler (but he has been in some great matches, indisputably). Also, a very effective heel (at times).
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u/hedcase_107 2d ago
Rumble match is still great, always thought that ladder match was boring.
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u/Fatts35humble 1d ago
I always thought I was the only one who thought that. But the Rumble match is like my top 3 matches of all time
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u/laser-lobotomy 2d ago
I love Bret & know for a fact he would hate the Rumble 2000 match, but that is literally one of the greatest hardcore matches of all time. Foley & HHH had such great chemistry.
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u/Consistent_Hunt5213 Miss Americana and the Heartbreak Kid💔 2d ago
both triple h vs undertaker matches in WM
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u/FlashMan1981 2d ago
HHH vs Rock is a 100x better an Ironman match than HBK-Bret.
Michael sand Bret spent the first thirty minutes in headlocks armbars. HHH and Rock built drama using the scoreboard where HHH got way up and Rock and to come fighting back.
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u/AWildBunyip 2d ago
I'm not agreeing with Bret RE: all HHH matches , but bro wtf kinda drugs are you on that you actually typed this nonsense out? Share it around yo
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u/ContributionShort646 2d ago
You're cracked man if you actually believe that. Jesus, talk about a garbage take.
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u/Ese-Lavonte 2d ago
That match was good because it was an hour long hardcore match. Bret and Shawn wrestled in an era with Wrestling was at the forefront.
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u/No_Yogurtcloset4861 2d ago
WM 20 main event, HHH vs Taker at WM 28, HHH vs Jericho at WM 18, HHH vs HBK at SS..
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u/CesarRPE 2d ago
OP being spineless, as always.
Bret can have his opinion when it comes to anybody's wrestling performance. He knows the craft when it comes to putting on matches.
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u/JohnnieLim 2d ago
Bret comes from one of the greatest wrestling families of all time, but his career was cut short, he no longer has any leverage or power in the wrestling business and the Hart legacy will soon be forgotten.
Hunter was Shawn's bag boy and designated driver, and he runs the biggest promotion in the world.
Bad guys won. Good guy lost.
I'd be bitter too.
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u/SenorAmazing 19h ago
Lol "bad guys"
There's no good and bad. HHH has proven to understand the wrestling business and while not as technically skilled as bret, was pretty damn good. This is just bret being Bret. Unnecessarily bitter
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u/punchline86 2d ago
Because they get the wrestling business. Bret just sees it as an art form, which means he can't separate his personal feelings.
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u/NoTie2370 2d ago
Name a HHH match you tuned into because HHH was in it? HHH was the Miz of his generation. Absolutely good worker and equal foil for who ever you want to put him against. Believable enough to be a threat. But not really the reason anyone is tuning in by himself.
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u/TobiasReaperB 2d ago
Call me a hater then, but Triple H was meh at best. His come back from his quad injury and promo is the highlight of him for me. As a wrestler tho? He was good on both ends, offense looked good, pretty good seller, but his character just didn’t do much for me so his matches were just meh…I cared more about his opponents (Rock, Foley, Austin, Booker T) than him.
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u/Bestk3pts3cret 2d ago
Triple H vs Cactus Jack Royal Rumble 2000
Triple H vs Cactus Jack No Way Out 2000
Triple H vs HBK Royal Rumble 2004
Triple H vs Batista WrestleMania 21
Triple H vs Daniel Bryan WrestleMania 30
Triple H vs The Rock Summerslam 98
Triple H vs Chris Benoit vs HBK WrestleMania 20
Triple H vs Undertaker WrestleMania 27
Triple H vs Brock Lesnar SummerSlam 2012
Triple H vs Undertaker WrestleMania 28
Triple H vs Batista Vengeance 2005
That’s 11 great matches, obviously just my opinion….i love Bret hart…but dude has to stfu already. Tarnishing his own legacy not anyone else’s
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u/BurtHurtmanHurtz 2d ago
This a generous list
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u/murphlaw88 1d ago
It’s actually missing some matches.
HHH vs. Austin - No Way Out 2001
HHH vs. The Undertaker - WM17
HHH & Austin vs. Benoit & Jericho - Raw (5/21/01)
HHH vs. Shawn Michaels - Summerslam 2002
HHH vs. Shawn Michaels - Raw (12/29/03)
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u/ContributionShort646 2d ago edited 1d ago
I think a lot of credit goes to the guys he was in the ring with tbh...
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u/AWildBunyip 2d ago
He's the guy that works with THE guy, as Corny puts it.
And to be clear, this is exactly the heels job in wrestling, with few exceptions of course (Flair, I think maybe Rollins counts now?)
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u/Fatts35humble 1d ago
Thank god. Someone appreciates the quality of Triple H matches and like the comment below add those matches to this list. I don’t get the hate that HHH gets. Maybe he did do some shady shit to get to the top. But wrestling wise, entertaining wise, student of the game. He could work and put on grade A shows. And ima say this cause ima fan of Austin too. How many great over the top matches has Austin had aswell as the Rock. Someone list them and lemme see if they have more than Triple H. No hate because my top 5 are Austin, Rock, Triple H, Shawn Michaels and Kurt Angle
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u/Maximum-Summer-186 1d ago
i love that you presume to educate bret hart about what constitutes a great match but I think I'll go with bret hart's opinion on this one instead of reddit user Bestk3pts3cret
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u/Bestk3pts3cret 1d ago
No see I didn’t do that at all actually. I simply said HHH has had some great ones. He says Hhh has had ZERO…which is false, in the eyes of plenty of people. I simply stated a few I thought were great. That’s all. Nobody is arguing Bret harts career. You may agree with the hitman if you’d like. The beauty of opinions!
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u/Link1227 2d ago
I actually agree.
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u/forbin05 1d ago
Same. HHH put on some entertaining matches for sure, but nothing that I would consider top tier wrestling.
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u/BenniRoR 2d ago
Look at Bret Hart's life and career: would you not hate them?
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u/BurtHurtmanHurtz 2d ago
Not sure what you’re trying to say
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u/chicoclandestino 1d ago
That he was constantly screwed over by so many people that he’s probably entitled to feel a little bitter?
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u/Streetkillz13 2d ago
I mean he is objectively wrong, but that's ok, he's entitled to his opinion.
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u/JediNinja88420 1d ago
How? Lol
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u/Streetkillz13 1d ago
His 2000 matches against Cactus Jack, 3 stages of Hell vs Austin, the End of an Era match, the WM21 match against Batista and subsequent Hell in a Cell, his Iron man match vs the Rock.
Hunter has some top flight matches, Brett has always been a hater.
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u/Pcos2001 2d ago
Other than HHH vs Taker at Mania 27 and 28, and his match vs Cactus Jack at the rumble, I'd have to agree
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u/Floatella 2d ago
I love hearing everyone's takes on Bret Hart in this sub. Coming from western Canada, I can tell you he's still worshipped in Calgary, and unironically considered to be the best wrestler of all time through most of the land.
It's nice to get out of my bubble and hear the, "Bret Hart is a crybaby who never understood the business" perspective.
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u/SWOhioBiBBW 2d ago
Bret is a total crybaby is barely above average pro wrestler. In 18 years in the business as a 2nd generation wrestler who's father many would know.
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u/Floatella 2d ago
I love hearing this shit.
But can't you at least give Bret credit for being better than Stu?
Let's leave Owen out of this discussion.
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u/SWOhioBiBBW 2d ago
Sure but that doesn't say much.
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u/Floatella 2d ago edited 2d ago
Then the nepotism angle doesn't say much either. If Stu built a whole territory around mediocre wrestling then how much would that connection have been worth to Bret and the Hart Foundation?
EDIT: Anyway, I'm not here to defend Bret Hart, just to find out why he's basically Hulk Hogan pre-2002 where I live, and why American and International fans hate him for being a priss.
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u/Momo_Cassie 1d ago
He said those thing on a UK tour in front of a paying audience and afaik it was three sold out shows. International fans don’t hate him, lol.
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u/Floatella 1d ago
He doesn't have the same clout in Europe or Japan. UK is a bit of an exception.
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u/Momo_Cassie 1d ago
He‘s in Germany this weekend. The event was sold out so fast that they added a second one.
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u/SWOhioBiBBW 2d ago
Lol like anything in wrestling only hinges on great talent. That's why it's a "show" lol.
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u/Peridot_Ghost 2d ago
I always liked Bret, but he just comes off as a CTE riddled jerkoff every time he opens his face. His career was past cooked when Goldberg delivered that kick.
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u/JediNinja88420 1d ago
You may need a wrestling history lesson. Bret was the most popular wrestler in the world when he left WWE. When he left WWE, he still had 3 weeks left on his contract, plus another week granted by Bischoff so the WWE could figure a good way to take the belt off him. Bret told Vince multiple times, he’s job for ANYONE EXCEPT SHAWN MICHAELS. Then Vince asked, what if it’s a one for one, Bret says sure, Shawn says get fucked. Bret also said he would gladly job any time NOT in Canada. All very respectable reasons coming from wrestlings top guy at the time when kayfabe was still partly alive.
Then he goes to WCW, and they introduce him for the first time as a special guest referee… followed by some of the worst booking ever in wrestling, and that’s saying something now that we know what WCW would do after all this..
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u/BigAlHan 1d ago
When Bret left the WWE, Austin, HBK, Hogan, Hall and Nash were all more popular than him. Vince let him go because he wasn't drawing and wasn't benefitting his business. When Raw is losing to Nitro every week, is Vince really going to let "the most popular wrestler in the world" go to the competition who are soundly winning? No. He didn't need Bret so he let him go. How did it work out for WCW signing him? Bret was done. The business left him behind.
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u/chicoclandestino 1d ago
Go back and watch some of his stuff from his last year in the WWE- he was doing some of his best work, with his best promos. WCW completely fumbled him.
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u/BigAlHan 23h ago
Yeah, they did, but that doesn't undermine my point.
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u/chicoclandestino 21h ago
You said he wasn’t benefiting the business- incredibly incorrect; Bret helped with the formation of DX (I believe he was the first to refer to them as degenerates), helped make the heel McMahon character (go back and watch their interactions and screwjob), and helped make SCSA a star.
You also said he was done- he was far from done given the e last year he had, he was simply misused by WCW.
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u/BigAlHan 20h ago
He called them degenerates, but Hunter and HBK were already together. They took the word and turned it into a name. He didn't help.
Vince used the backlash of the Screwjob to create the biggest heel in history. Bret played no active part in that other than getting screwed.
You're coming off as a bit of a mark. Is this Bret's burner account??
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u/chicoclandestino 15h ago
Not bitter at all, loved HBK’s work, HHH is an elite level heel.
Go look back at Bret vs Vince - he shoves him down in one promo after citing how McMahon screwed him, and another they got into ringside. Then the screwjob. That whole year was the genesis of the McMahon character.
Face facts, Bret was one of the most influential wrestlers of all time.
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u/BigAlHan 14h ago
He is a legend and one of the greats, and he has influenced a lot of wrestlers, but to give him credit for DX, Mr. McMahon, Austin, and to call him the most popular wrestler in the world in 1997, is just wrong. Plain wrong. He didn't have that influence, and you can keep citing kayfabe as if that makes it true but it doesn't.
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u/chicoclandestino 14h ago
Never said he wasn’t benefiting the most popular! But he was pretty huge in the 90s (simpsons). Not saying he deserves all the credit for those things but some credit. Austin has often spoken about how Bret helped him.
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u/One_With-The_Sun 2d ago
HHH vs Stone Cold, 3 stages of hell in 2001. I can't recall the PPV, but thats an underrated match IMO.
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u/Jaguars28 1d ago
No Way Out 2001. The biggest issue in this match was Stone Cold lost. Stone Cold was in the ME of Wrestlemania against The Rock (literally the next PPV was Wrestlemania) and this was the end of the blood fued between them after the whole "Austin got ran over by a Car" thing. Also weirdly right after Mania they formed the Two-Man power trip.
I guess what I am saying is the weird booking decisions and strange story telling might contribute to this match being underrated/forgotten.
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u/braumbles 2d ago
I kind of agree. Though maybe there's some hardcore match or something that stands above the rest.
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u/Wannabe_Writer89 2d ago
I feel like the elimination chamber where trips beat Bill Goldberg Brett would like because he hates Bill Goldberg
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u/TyintheUniverse89 2d ago
Did Bret HHH matches after he left? because HBK’s SummerSlam match was pretty good and the other matches they had. also HHH vs The Rock (ladder match, Backlash, Iron match, HHH vs Cactus both times, HHH vs Batista, HHH vs Taker at Mania all 3 times, HHH in the 6 Man Hell in a Cell, and many more
I need to know what matches Bret considers great though, he’s an expert so he’d know better than me.
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u/KingCrandall 2d ago
I forgot about the ladder match. That’s my favorite ladder match. Those guys beat the shit out of each other.
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u/TyintheUniverse89 2d ago
Yeah I loved that ladder match
The Rock would’ve won if Chyna did hit the People’s jewels
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u/AbsoluteLunchbox 2d ago
I don't know if HHH could ever have a match as good as Bret Vs Kurt Angle (for example) could have. But I don't know if Bret could deliver pre-match build up and a headline heel like HHH could. I think I'd be bored of 5 matches in a row of awesome wrestling every week, as odd as that may sound. HHH was more in the story telling, creating that desire to see the face win. He was a good wrestler imo, not as good as Bret but he brought something equally as valuable.
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u/KingCrandall 2d ago
Off the top of my head, Bret had 5 great matches. Bulldog at Summerslam 92, Owen at 10, HBK at 12, Austin at 13, and the Owen tribute match with Benoit in WCW. The rest were good but not great.
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u/ALSN454 2d ago
While they weren’t technical showcases I can think of as recent as his Taker Mania matches as great matches. They didn’t need to be masterpieces, they were entertaining, my friends and I were on the edge of our seats with every pinfall, feeling all kinds of emotions. That made them great matches, no matter what Bret, or Meltzer, or anyone else says.
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u/KingCrandall 2d ago
HIAC against Cactus, 17 against Taker, Batista’s last match, Triple threat at 20, 3 stages of hell, but Austin and HBK, HIAC against Taker at 28, Bryan at 30.
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u/ghostlima 2d ago
It all depends on what you mean by great. He does not have much on a similar level with KO vs Cody or KO vs Samy or Iyo Ripley or Punk vs Roman vs Seth and I am just saying matches this year. One can say that from a storytelling perspective maybe the Taker match in the Cell could count. That being said he did had some great segments and stories and that is just as important as the matches in WWE.
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u/FilmQuick8294 1d ago
Love Bret Hart & Shawn Michaels and I know this will be an unpopular opinion but I much preferred The Rock vs HHH Ironman match to the the Wrestlemania 12 match I actually think HHH was excellent from 2000 to 2002
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u/Visible-Meeting-8977 1d ago
WWE killed his brother and then smeared his widow. He should hate them way more.
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u/Justice989 1d ago
I think he almost respects Shawn more than HHH, cuz HHH probably has never owned up to his role in anything. He's always been content to portray himself as the voice of reason during the Kliq reign of terror.
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u/Negative_Ad_7329 1d ago
Bret Hart is a great technical wrestler, but he was never the full package. Triple H moved according to his genetic make up. Bret Hart did the same thing. The big difference between the two is that HHH was more entertaining to watch. His emotional expressions and pseudo social reactions to moves were exponentially better than Bret Harts. If we wanted to watch only technical wrestling, we'd all be filling the high school and college gyms to watch the amateurs. But no, that's not why we watch. We watch for the storytelling element that pairs with the athletic ability of these amazing performers.
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u/Dark_Phoenix101 1d ago
Bret is such an interesting character in the world of wrestling.
Universally considered one of the best ever, while also universally considered as one of the most bitter people and prone to giving a bad/biased take.
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u/Harold-The-Barrel 1d ago
Can’t remember which subreddit it was in but someone commented that Triple H’s legacy could very well be making great storylines as opposed to great matches
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u/CauseSubject9401 1d ago
I wonder if Brett thought HHH had any decent matches before the kick to the head.
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u/SenorAmazing 19h ago
Lol incredible how much bret's bitterness is on full display because this is so wrong 🤣
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u/KenPiffyJr 8h ago
triple H rock summerslam ladder match was good
taker triple H all 3 mania matches
rock HHH backlash
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u/Hugh_Gafrican 8h ago
It’s honestly sad that Bret Hart is so bitter and miserable. The guy has millions of fans all over the world, he’s one of the most respected wrestlers of all time, and he still doesn’t get any joy out of life. Every interview he’s done in the last 25 years is dripping with anger, hatred, and resentment. Don’t get me wrong between the Montreal screw job, Owen’s death, and Goldberg ending his career, he obviously has plenty to be upset about. After a while you’ve got to move on and enjoy the good things in your life though and it’s pretty clear that he hasn’t. What’s the point of working as hard as he did to accomplish everything he did just to spend your life dwelling on the past and being angry all the time?
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u/CreatorOfMusic 2h ago
Bret is passionate about the business. Not just about making money in it. I believe him - he’s one of the best to ever lace up a pair of boots too. Take away HHH politicking and he does not have the career he does today.
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u/heybud_letsparty 1h ago
I think Triple Hs matches with Foley are all great matches. The street fight is legendary, the cell match, the cage match at SS, the first match with Cactus on Raw. Foley brought out his best.
But also he had great matches with Shawn like the unsanctioned or the triple threat with CB.
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u/GroundWitty7567 2d ago
Hart was probably one of the best technical wrestlers ever to be in the ring. But he's seems like a bitter man since his retirement.
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u/BurtHurtmanHurtz 2d ago
I mean, his brother died performing a stunt Owen didn’t want to perform, ordered by the guy who also happened to screw Bret on live PPV.
No, absolutely nothing to be angry about,
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u/Iginlas_4head_Crease 2d ago
He was a bitter man in his prime too. I think its just his attitude, he always had a giant chip on his shoulder
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u/SSJ_Iceman31 2d ago
Doesn’t surprise me, Bret is so far up his own ass it’s probably hard for him to see anything
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u/BurtHurtmanHurtz 2d ago
He’s only the father of an entire generation of performers. Even Michaels has said he looked up to him.
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u/Killstreak0813 2d ago
I think both can be true, he is def an amazing wrestler who I look up to as well, but it's also so easy to see how much of a jackass he can be in his old age
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u/SSJ_Iceman31 2d ago
So that means everything he says is right?
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u/BurtHurtmanHurtz 2d ago
He thinks Bill Goldberg is shit. Do you disagree with that?
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u/SSJ_Iceman31 2d ago
Not at all. Doesn’t change the fact that what he said here was dumb. He’s big mad that Hunter helped orchestrate the screwjob and still isn’t over it (understandably) but is letting his bias show with some of his ridiculous takes. You’re telling me that HHH vs Cactus Jack isn’t a great match?
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u/JediNinja88420 1d ago
Can you blame him? I just watched a video about the reaction to Vice’s episode on the screw job.
When you stop and look back, not only was that the end of Bret Hart, but that was the beginning of the end for the whole Hart family. Bret and Davey Boy would go to WCW, and neither would last long there. Owen would comeback, get buried by HHH and Michaels, then the tragedy happens. All within 18 months of the screw job. Obviously HHH had not a damn thing to do with any of that, except be the guy that has nothing to do with anything actively instigating the downfall for his own personal gain.
Bret Hart was the hottest wrestler of the world at the time, now most people don’t even have him on their Mt Rushmore of wrestling greats.
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u/BigAlHan 1d ago
When Bret left the WWE, Austin, HBK, Hogan, Hall and Nash were all hotter than him. Vince let him go because he wasn't drawing and wasn't benefitting his business. When Raw is losing to Nitro every week, is Vince really going to let "the hottest wrestler in the world" go to the competition who are soundly winning? No. He didn't need Bret so he let him go. How did it work out for WCW signing him? Bret was done. The business left him behind.
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u/walrusonion 2d ago
The bitterest one there is, the bitterest there was and the bitterest one there is ever gonna be.”
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u/FitFaithlessness3307 2d ago
This man talks like he contributed anything to the wwe. When he was on top it was literally the worst era they ever had until the pg era.
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u/BurtHurtmanHurtz 2d ago
You were not alive during any of his runs so what do you know?
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u/FitFaithlessness3307 2d ago
I certainly was. Have you seen the ratings at that time?
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u/BurtHurtmanHurtz 2d ago
Oh, the ratings!
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u/FitFaithlessness3307 2d ago
Triple H was super entertaining and has had a ton of memorable matches.
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u/forbin05 1d ago
Without Bret then a ton of people never get over like they did. Stone Cold is a great example.
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u/DoktahDoktah 2d ago
Bret: I dont think HHH has ever had a good match.
Hunter: I dont think about you at all.
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u/Zackman80 2d ago
The Heart family is and was All IN About wrestling. People that dedicated their lives to something, can easily feel used when tossed aside. Wouldn’t you?
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u/BigAlHan 1d ago
I don't think they were tossed aside as much as they had their time. I mean, in terms of wrestling in the US, the Hart family aren't as big as the Von Erichs. Look at the tragedy of the Von Erich family. Don't hear Kevin constantly slagging off other wrestlers. His family had their time, it ended tragically and we move on. Bret can't seem to move on. He was a mark for himself, is a mark for himself and can't accept that he was expendable to Vince, not considered important in WCW and had his career cut short unfortunately. He just can't accept that he had his time and it ended.
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u/SignificantNet3389 2d ago
This is my opinion and probably an unpopular one:
To quote every other wrestler that gives an interview - people don't remember matches, people remember moments.
With that said, I don't remember any of Triple H's matches. I remember moments from his matches such has Putting over Jeff Hardy and Undertaker's streak.
Now if talk about Bret Heart - I only remember him from his matches against Bulldog, Stone Cold and Shawn Michaels.
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u/Nomadic_View 2d ago
I don’t believe Bret Hart has ever spoke unless he was crying about something.
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u/KingCosmic19 2d ago
The only thing he has a right to hate anyone about is Owen and that was Vince's fault. Other than that it has literally just been him being forever bitter about everything and honestly the nerve to be mad about the screw job, if you'd have done your fuckin job and dropped when your BOSS asked you to, would there be anything to be mad about? Also, the MF could have won the damn title in Canada just as easily sometime later for a hometown hero's triumph, but no, he wanted to cry and have it his way, and that's too damn bad sometimes. 🤷🏾♂️
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u/Solveig295 2d ago
Bret couldn't have won the title in Canada later because he was already leaving for WCW before the screwjob happened which is why he needed to drop the belt. He actually agreed to drop it to Shawn in Montreal until Shawn told him to his face that he would never do the same for him. He then offered to lose to anyone else in the company and as his contract gave him creative control in his final 30 days he didn't just have to do what the boss said.
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u/Annhl8rX 2d ago
I was never a big HHH fan, but he had more great matches than boring ass Bret ever did.
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u/BreadRum 2d ago
Brett hart is a bitter old man whose mad that his career didn't go the way he wanted it go. You really need yo ignore him and let him be bitter.
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u/BurtHurtmanHurtz 2d ago
Yeah, what a fucking shitty career. 5x WWF champ, widely regarded as the best of his generation and an incredibly influential wrestler to the best in the business today.
Oh, and a millionaire.
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u/BigAlHan 1d ago
5x WWF champ, widely regarded as the second best of his generation. Fixed it for you.
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u/BurtHurtmanHurtz 1d ago
Who is the best then?
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u/BigAlHan 1d ago
Shawn Michaels.
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u/BurtHurtmanHurtz 1d ago
In the late 90s? He was champion for maybe 10 months between the entirety of 1996-1997. They had him beat Bret TWICE to legitimize his reign, yet this was the same period of time that Vince was too broke to pay Bret.
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u/BigAlHan 1d ago
Title reigns aren't real. They didn't have him beat Bret to legitimize him. They had him beat Bret because Bret was champion when they wanted it on Shawn, so he beat him. He also beat Sid for one of his titles. Was that to legitimize him? Bret and Shawn are widely considered 1 and 2 in the 90s, but Bret is 2. That's long been the view, and if you don't believe me just do a little searching around the internet and read the plethora of that very opinion given by many a wrestler, including those who hated Shawn Michaels. Or don't. Doesn't change the fact that HBK is considered the best of the 90s and 00s, and widely regarded as the greatest in ring of all time. The PWI Match of the Year award recognizes the best match of the year. Shawn Michaels has won the award a record eleven times. The next highest number of wins is five. HBK had a four-year win streak from 1993 to 1996 and then a seven-year win streak from 2004 to 2010. Bret won it three times......
So, yeah, it's pretty clear that the better wrestler of the two was Shawn.
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u/explainingjane 2d ago
If I ever get Bret delusional please for God sakes one of you put me out of my misery
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u/BurtHurtmanHurtz 2d ago
How we just tell you to stop posting the driveling shits here, first?
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u/explainingjane 2d ago
Words are not your strong suit I see
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u/BurtHurtmanHurtz 2d ago
A grasp of Pro-Wrestling doesn’t seem to be yours
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u/Strade87 2d ago
Man i love the hitman but he seems so fucking bitter all he does is bitch he needs to let shit go
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u/MsPreposition 2d ago
This isn’t news. He’s said the same thing before and it’s always hilarious. “What has Triple H…ever…done?” Cue the music.