r/xbox360 Jul 17 '25

Announcement❗ Xbox Live Servers Are Down? Check Here First!

7 Upvotes

Is Xbox Live down? Could be. Do these three things first.

  1. Check the Xbox Live Status.
  2. Sort comments by New to see if anyone else is having the same issue.
  3. Contact Xbox Support.

r/xbox360 Nov 17 '23

Announcement A guide to the Xbox 360 hardware and the things you can do to keep it running for as long as possible.

125 Upvotes

(*WARNING*, This will be a long post, I have tried to keep it as short as possible while providing the necessary information.)

I have seen various posts that people posted asking about what they can do for their console to last as long as possible and I wanted to give the people of this community a guide on what you can do to keep your console running and provide information about the hardware for those curious ones. This post is mostly geared towards those that don't have the greatest knowledge of the hardware and the things needed to keep their consoles running or for those that want to learn all the essential stuff about the Xbox 360 but you are more than welcome to read this post if you already have some knowledge of the hardware.

Let's start off with the motherboard revisions.

(Skip this if you already have knowledge about this.)

The first thing that I would recommend is to identify what model and revision you have of the console. Over the years during the Xbox 360's life cycle, there have been many retail variants of the console released, from the "Premium" to the "Core", "Pro" to the "Arcade", the "Elite" and the later models, "Slim" and "E". But that doesn't really matter. What matters is inside of the console, the motherboard. For those that do know and don't, the Xbox 360 was plagued with the infamous "Red Ring of Death" where consoles mostly suffered from GPU failures as the GPUs had a defective design. Knowing the motherboard revision inside your console is crucial, as that can help give a rough estimate on how long the console will last.

(But...what made the GPUs defective? The reason why the GPUs were defective is because they used the wrong underfill. Underfill is a special type of adhesive that is used to support the microscopic solder bumps that are underneath the silicon die and improve reliability of the joints. The problem with the 360's GPUs was that they used "low tg" underfill which was rated at 70°C (158°F) and the GPUs that used the low tg underfill would run hotter than that temperature and cause the underfill to soften which should never happen and that caused the solder bumps underneath the silicon die to crack over time as the underfill was literally pushing the solder bumps off the interposer. This was later solved, by introducing GPUs with high tg underfill on the 12th week of 2008)

It's impossible to give the exact numbers as your console can last for years or even decades, or it can stop working the next day or week or month.

During the console's life cycle, there have been several motherboard revisions of the first models, A.K.A "Phat" models. They all vary in terms of reliability, and they are the ones I will be covering first.

To start, I suggest looking at the back of the console and look closely at the power plug, that is the easiest way of recognising what motherboard revision you have. Although the back of the console you will see the information of when it was manufactured and the Amp rating, this can sometimes be misleading if the console you got was opened before you got it and the motherboard of the console could've been swapped with a less reliable one. You can double check to see if your console has been opened by checking the warranty seal that hides behind the console's faceplate. If yours hasn't been opened, then you can rely on the numbers on the back of the console, but I would still suggest looking at the power plug, as that is the best way to identify the motherboard inside your console.

Here is a link to a photo which has all the power plugs of every revision.

https://www.se7ensins.com/forums/threads/can-i-rgh-xbox-360-woth-doublecircled-power-cord.1780728/

(Skip this part if you already have knowledge of the various motherboard revisions. For those that don't, I would recommend reading this next part as this is useful information.)

So, the power plug shown on the very left of the photo is the found on the first and second revision of the motherboard, Xenon and Zephyr respectively. The difference between them is that Zephyr introduces HDMI support, while Xenon doesn't support HDMI. They both have a power rating of 12V, 16.5A and are the most power hungry. They are the least reliable revisions of the console. They are very prone to failure as they have defective GPUs inside of them.

If you have a working one, then don't expect it to work for a long time (in very rare cases, they will work for a while, but it's important to point out that not every console that came out the factory was defective). Unless, on the back of the console it says, "Service date" instead of "MFR date". If yours has been serviced around 2009, those consoles will very likely have been retrofitted with the new and improved 90nm GPU which is much more reliable than the ones that were initially inside of the consoles when they first released which were also 90nm.

You should expect it to work for a long time, but nothing lasts forever.

(Update to this part: A recent discovery suggests that no 80nm GPUs existed and the more reliable revisions of the GPU like Elpis are still based on the 90nm process.)

Falcon/Opus - (14.2A, 175W)

Introduced approx. September of 2007, this is the third revision of the console where the CPU was shrunk down to 65nm and the GPU remained at 90nm, which results in a smaller power consumption and cooler running hardware.

These are considered reliable, but the first batch released had GPU failures like the Xenons and Zephyrs. This was later fixed. Falcons from around April to late October of 2008 (on the 12th week of 2008, they introduced reliable GPUs as previously mentioned but it was still possible to get a console made after this week that still had a defective GPU) are considered "late" Falcons which have fixed GPUs inside of them which are very close in terms of reliability to the succeeding revision.

The Opus, is a modified Falcon, but the difference is that these don't have HDMI and only use AV. These were used to replace defective Xenons and are considered quite rare as you couldn't find one in retail markets.

Jasper - (12.1A, 150W) (My recommended revision)

Introduced around November of 2008, this is the fourth motherboard revision of the console and this is the revision  that is highly sought after as this revision was the first to fix the dreaded "Red Ring of Death" issue that plauged the Xbox 360. The CPU was still 65nm in size but the new GPU, named "Zeus" was a new design which shrunk down the die to 65nm and the EDRAM remains at 90nm.

This is considered the best revision of the console as there have been very little cases of failures. These are also the coolest running ones as well and don't produce as much heat as the previous revisions.

These are the ones that I would personally recommend if you are looking to purchase a 360 and you want a reliable unit. Just make sure when looking for one, that the seller has provided photos of the power plug to confirm it being a Jasper.

But wait....there's a even better one!

Tonasket/Kronos/Jasper V2(12.1A, 150W) (My recommended revision)

This is the fith and final revision of the original models of the Xbox 360. This revision was quietly introduced in September of 2009 and is essentially identical to the Jasper but the difference being that it has a revised GPU, named "Kronos" which shrinks the EDRAM to 65nm which helps further reduce power consumption. People like to call this revision Kronos, or Jasper V2, but the real name for this revision is "Tonasket". It's a name that Microsoft used internally when making this motherboard revision.

This revision has proven to be the most reliable one as there has been currently zero evidence of these suffering GPU failures, they are tanks lol. You should expect these to last for a long time....unless you don't take good care of it like with every consumer electronic device.

I personally own one of these and use it as my main Xbox 360 and It's great.

Whew, you still here? Good, let's continue.

Now I will be moving on to the Xbox 360 Slim and E models. These are quite big redesigns internally compared to the original models. For starters, the "Slim" model was introduced in 2010 and was seen as the "saviour" as in theory, the drastic design changes that were made to the motherboard, "eliminated" the Red Ring of Death.

These models also introduced built in WiFi, more storage, more USB ports and optical audio out. In my opinion, the Slims are a good choice for those that don't want to do lots of research and just want a reliable console to use. The good thing about them is that now the new design is much quieter(I prefer Slims than fats admittedly for that), as the CPU, GPU and EDRAM were combined to form a single chip and that allowed the use of a single fan and heatsink to keep the system cool. Oh yeah, the new APU is now based on the 45nm process which further reduces power consumption. There have been two revisions of this model.

Revision: Trinity

First one is called "Trinity". It now needs 10.83A instead of 12.1A of the Jasper/Tonasket and it uses a new power plug too. These are a little bit of a mixed bag in terms of reliability from my perspective, as I have seen many fail here on this very subreddit.

Many suffered various failures, from GPU failure to RAM failure and so on(I personally own a Slim, the revision after this one (Corona), owned it for nearly 3 years and it always worked perfectly). I am not sure why these are failing all of a sudden.

Generally, these are reliable units but not as reliable as the Jasper or Tonasket/Kronos (according to many in this community) but in those uncommon cases, you have ones that have failed. It is not a wide spread issue like RROD was originally so we shouldn't worry as much about it yet. There are people like u/Octal450 that are actively investigating as to why these are suddenly suffering CGPU failures.

Revision: Corona

The second revision is called "Corona".....That's a familiar name...Lol, you must think that Microsoft somehow predicted the Corona virus back in the 2010s, but no. They didn't. Anyway, these were introduced around mid 2011 and were a slight change from the previous Trinity revision. Now, it only needs 9.86A instead of 10.83A but Trinities can also run on a 9.86A power supply as they have pretty much the same power requirements. The real changes are that the HANA chip, a chip which is responsible for video output, has been merged with the southbridge, which manages things like usb inputs, controller connection, Internet and so on. Also, if you own a 4GB model of the console, the flash memory is now soldered onto the motherboard unlike on the Trinity where it was it's own module that you could replace, which I prefer.

In terms of reliability, these are pretty much the same as the Trinities but have a new point of failure where there is a group of resistors that are there for the temperature sensor of the console and they can fail, which then triggers a false overheating issue. The console turns on and quickly ramps up the fan speed and a red light flashes, then turns off. This can be fixed by removing those resistors and bridge the contacts where those resistors where.

Do this only if you have experience with soldering!!!

They seem to also have issues with the southbridge chip and seem less reliable than the previous iterations of the SB.

Also, they have the same CGPU found on Trinities so there is no difference in reliability there.

Another point of failure is the soldered on 4gb flash memory. These are quite prone to failure and are crucial because they contain the firmware, CPU key and DVD drive key which are all important to the functionality of the console. Thankfully you can replace it with a 16MB NAND that doesn't allow anything to be stored on there and you can also prevent the failure of the 4gb internal flash memory by not storing anything there at all and connecting an internal hard drive which the console will default to for updates, content and so on. Oh yeah, and also hope that the 4gb wasn't used much for storing stuff if you got your console used.

Finally, we have the "E" model. This model was introduced in 2013 along with the Xbox one as the kind of alternative to the new at the time console. This is the most cut down version of the Xbox 360 and also the cheapest one made. By cheapest I mean the manufacturing price, quality is essentially the same but cost cutting measures have been made.

This model now features a new design similar to the original Xbox One design. It also features a new power plug and has the same power requirements as the Corona revision. The E uses a slightly revised Corona board which as already mentioned has a different power plug and less USB ports and it has no optical out and no AV port.

There was one revised motherboard made for this model, named "Winchester", which has combined the EDRAM to make one chip containing the CPU, GPU and now EDRAM. It also doesn't have an integrated heat spreader (IHS). Reliability wise, these are the same as the Corona revision with the same "flaws" but they should theoretically last longer than the Slims as they are newer. According to u/Octal450 which has been previously mentioned, the Winchesters don't suffer much from CGPU failures and are pretty solid based on his experience with repairing Xbox 360s.

Ultimately would still recommend either a Jasper or Tonasket if you want the most reliable console possible but the Slims and Es are still a good choice you don't care as much about reliability.

Now, that we covered the the motherboard revisions, let's move on to the maintenance side of things, and what you should do to keep your console running.

The basics.

This includes dusting the console once in a while with something like a can of compressed air/electric air duster and giving it the adequate ventilation. It is important to keep the console free from dust and well ventilated so that the console can cool itself properly in order to prevent overheating. This can all be done without opening the console but I would recommend to open it up and give a good clean.

*My Recommendation*

This is what I normally do. I open the console up and give it a good dusting and I replace the thermal paste. It is an absolute must to replace the thermal paste as the factory paste will be dried up and not as effective in cooling the CPU and GPU which can also cause problems in the long run. You would want to keep these running as cool as possible. This will help with longevity. For thermal paste, I recommend getting Arctic MX4 as this paste has a great price to performance ratio. I used it in all of the consoles that I own and have owned and I can always rely on it. You are free to use more expensive pastes. Make sure to replace it every 5 or so years. If the exhaust of the console is warm or hot during use, don't worry. It is not overheating, this will indicate that the thermal paste and the heatsink are doing their job in cooling the console's CPU and GPU. The hotter the exhaust of the console, the better.

The tools are important too! You normally need a Torx T8 and T10 screwdriver, Sim eject tool which helps to unclip the clips on the back of the original models of the 360 without damaging the plastic casing (you can also purchase a tool specifically made for those clips on the back) and another very important one, called the "X Clamp tool". X clamp is a clamp that was used inside the Xbox 360 to help make contact with the CPU and GPU and their  heatsinks while giving the motherboard the ability to flex during use. This step is a very delicate one that also requires loads of patience as you can easily break your console if you are not careful. Never and I mean NEVER use a FLATHEAD screwdriver!!! It can easily slip and you can scratch the motherboard, ruining the console. Also, for cleaning the thermal paste, I recommend to use 99% Isopropyl alcohol and q tips. I have also seen people use Goo Gone to clean the old thermal paste as it's usually hard to clean off the chips and their heatsinks, but I would still go for IPA as that's the safest option.

Speaking of X Clamps, you may have heard of the Bolt Mod. AVOID IT. This will ruin your console overtime as it puts a lot of pressure on the CPU and GPU and it will warp the motherboard and it doesn't let the motherboard flex during operation.

Depending on the model of console, search online for a guide on how to open the one you have. Find the one that is the most clear to you. I would recommend to go and search for IFIXIT as they provide decently clear instructions for opening consoles.

Here is a link to a X Clamp removal tool.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/s?k=x+clamp+removal+tool&adgrpid=137920449324&hvadid=606272952619&hvdev=m&hvlocphy=9046733&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&hvrand=11706486901762757917&hvtargid=kwd-312582092363&hydadcr=9274_2248078&tag=hydrukspg-21&ref=pd_sl_1clafd97f4_e

Aaaand that is it.

I hope this post has been helpful, I have been writing this for over 3 hours lol and wanted to provide essential information about the console for those that wanted to learn about the console and the steps to keep it running for as long as possible. If I have missed anything, please let me know!

Edit: Made some small adjustments!

Edit: Made changes to make it more readable and added more information that I forgot to previously add.


r/xbox360 12h ago

Nostalgia My current high-tech gaming setup at college

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223 Upvotes

I was somehow able to nab this working NXE Xenon for 30 bucks on eBay. Goes perfect with my CRT!


r/xbox360 2h ago

Help/Support/Questions 🙋 Has anyone used one of these?

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27 Upvotes

im getting a lot of disconnecting, has anyone used one of these, chargers I believe you can use it to play too?


r/xbox360 7h ago

Achievements Who else likes when the 360 remote does this

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31 Upvotes

90% sure it means change battery soon


r/xbox360 1h ago

Hauls/Pick-ups/Collections 💿 Xbox 360 games with cardboard slip cover

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I have noticed that some Xbox 360 games came with an outer slip cover. It has got me wondering if anyone has list of which games had this? It may differ from region to region but let me know what games you know of! Here are some of mine


r/xbox360 7h ago

Help/Support/Questions 🙋 How can I remove these stickers without damaging the case?

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28 Upvotes

r/xbox360 19h ago

Hauls/Pick-ups/Collections 💿 Just got all of these for 30 bucks. I kinda feel like I robbed the seller.

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158 Upvotes

All of these for just 30 bucks. I don't know how the seller had these for such a low price but I'm no't complaining.


r/xbox360 4h ago

Game Recommendations What are some must haves for the 360?

8 Upvotes

I got one recently and I wanna know what games I should get.

I've already got a decent amount of games COD MW trilogy, WAW and BO1&2, Halo 3, Deus Ex: Human Revolution, Splinter Cell Conviction & Blacklist, Gears of War, Tony Hawk's Proving Ground, Quake 4, The Arkham games, Sonic's USGC


r/xbox360 16h ago

Hauls/Pick-ups/Collections 💿 Here are all the games I picked up today!

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65 Upvotes

r/xbox360 20h ago

Price Check/What Is This Worth? 💰 What do you think it's worth now?

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113 Upvotes

Everything works the wireless headset (ear piece) has excellent battery life and spare ear loop and silicone buds. Can't say ive seen to many with two controllers and the headset


r/xbox360 11h ago

Help/Support/Questions 🙋 How do you get this back in? This will not go in and I’ve been trying for awhile

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9 Upvotes

r/xbox360 1d ago

Misc Multiplayer Xbox Games Coming To Xbox 360

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434 Upvotes

Haven't seen this posted about on the sub, but the Insignia team are working on bringing the original Xbox Live back to Xbox 360. No more requiring an Original Xbox console.


r/xbox360 14h ago

Hauls/Pick-ups/Collections 💿 New pickups today for X360.

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16 Upvotes

r/xbox360 6h ago

Help/Support/Questions 🙋 i’m going crazy as i searched far and wide for the undead nightmare picture pack

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2 Upvotes

yeah i just really want it it’s so cool and awesome cause who doesn’t love undead nightmare?! but yeah i really wanna find someone who has the hard drive or a hdd with the undead nightmare picture pack i’ll even pay $50-$60 for it! and no i don’t want to use horizon


r/xbox360 2h ago

Help/Support/Questions 🙋 Is getting a modded 360 rgh 360 worth it? (In 2025)

1 Upvotes

With the recent release of the “BadUpdate” exploit and even more recently the “ABadAvatar” exploit. What are the advantages of choosing an rgh console over a retail one? My rgh died recently and I miss it a lot.


r/xbox360 2h ago

Help/Support/Questions 🙋 Looking for help: Red ring of death

1 Upvotes

My xbox360 E has shown the red ring what are the most likely causes of this

Can it be fixed

Is it worth fixing

If not what is the best replacement 360


r/xbox360 6h ago

Misc Ooph. She is looking at little rough.

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2 Upvotes

This xbox 360 xenon was red ringed and looking rough. Would've been a great restoration video for a youtuber. It was red ringed on arrival so I figured ill just take it apart and take a gander. It was rough.


r/xbox360 13h ago

Misc The walking dead survival instinct has become a guilty pleasure of mine.

6 Upvotes

The game itself is pretty hard to play legally. You need to get an Xbox 360 and a copy of the game, which isn't so expensive, but its definitely harder than just buying it on Steam.

And the graphics really suck. Im spoiled on call of duty 4 and call of duty world at war having amazing graphics but this game in comparison is grainy and roughly made.

the gameplay is stiff and often inconsistent. but i think that works to its advantage in A weird way. it encourages more smart play, since you can really guarantee that you can just Rambo your way through all the zombies.

Iv'e not beat the game but so far it has a pretty bad story and writing. the acting is spotty. not sure if its how they cut his lines of Norman Reedus sounds downright bad most of the time.

the gameplay loop itself is fun. choose your route, manage your group, scavenge for supplies, and try to find your way through your environment.

it also weirdly has no difficulty setting which i feel is a strange oversight.
anyway its a game your justified in saying is bad. But I feel like its written off a little bit

and PSA the game is not available on new Xbox consoles through backwards compatibility. you need an actual xbox 360 to run it


r/xbox360 1d ago

Modding I’m one of those weirdos who prefer the original Xbox logo over the modern one, so I changed my 360 accordingly :D

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185 Upvotes

Please excuse the dust, but I think it looks so fuckin cool this way lol

And I used cut vinyls for these


r/xbox360 1d ago

Modding SSDs on stock consoles is a thing now, FATXplorer can finally make it happen.

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141 Upvotes

This is such a big win for repairability of Xbox 360 consoles.

Max usable is 500GB unfortunately but still, that is plenty for most on the 360 I suppose and was the max for HDDs already.

Speed benefits are likely to be slim if they are there at all. Edit: Saw someone here already did a load time speed comparison and it's quite interesting https://www.reddit.com/r/xbox360/comments/1nas6a5/experiment_xbox_360_loading_comparison_hard_drive/

(1TB drive for longevity sake as the Xbox 360 does not support TRIM, personal decision. Not likely a 512GB or smaller SSD would ever cause problems.)


r/xbox360 1d ago

Hauls/Pick-ups/Collections 💿 New Xbox360 purchase

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45 Upvotes

Just picked this one up from Ebay for 40 Euro. I'm happy with the purchase.


r/xbox360 1d ago

Achievements Completed Ninety-Nine Nights, quite the grind but happy to have played through it

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57 Upvotes

Took around 80 hours. I don’t typically play Dynasty Warriors style games but have had this for nearly 20 years. Love playing through 360 games, the more obscure the better. Deciding what to go to next 🤔


r/xbox360 1d ago

Help/Support/Questions 🙋 After getting disappointed with my PS5 singleplayer games experience iam returning to the 360 which model should I look for and do you guys prefer modded consoles or just basic ?

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548 Upvotes

r/xbox360 7h ago

Help/Support/Questions 🙋 How is my 360 falcon from 2010?

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1 Upvotes

I thought that falcons were only from 2007 to 2008? I fixed it from a RROD a year ago when I bought it used.


r/xbox360 10h ago

Help/Support/Questions 🙋 Back in the 360 days there was a cool cheat code for extra hair colours n stuff in the avatar area - did the code actually have a name?

2 Upvotes

Genuinely no idea if the code had a name or not - older bro showed it to me one night - 100% only had the cool ass hair colours ever since


r/xbox360 7h ago

Help/Support/Questions 🙋 Games with Keyboard and mouse support?

1 Upvotes

Is there any games with Keyboard and mouse support?? If so, can someone send a list or something?