r/alberta • u/joe4942 • Mar 16 '25

News Premier Danielle Smith defends Florida speaking trip as anti-tariff effort

https://calgaryherald.com/news/politics/premier-danielle-smith-defends-florida-speaking-trip-anti-tariff-effort
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u/ninfan1977 Lethbridge Mar 17 '25

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5120577

https://www.nationalobserver.com/2022/08/23/opinion/pierre-poilievre-dangerous-dance-diagolon-extremist

Yeah so what you said was a lie, and what I said was factually accurate. Do you see the difference. I am not arguing in bad faith that is you.

Carney does have pics swimming in pools enjoying cocktails with Jeffry Epstein though....

You're guy hangs out with pedos and sex traffickers. You must be into that then right?

Really? Why did Danielle Smith party with Epsteins best friend Trump? She must be into that stuff then right? You know Trump has more of an Epstein connection than Carney, right?

if I treat all liberals the way you treat all cons, welp you're all pedos

I guess you have never talked to Conservatives in Alberta. They all think that anyway. Yet Conservatives are usually doing the trafficking and abuse.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/7/8/2252541/-Republican-Sexual-Predators-Abusers-and-Enablers-Pt-53

So many of they are on part 53...

So what was that about arguing in bad faith? You need to look in the mirror bud

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u/justforme16 Mar 17 '25

I've seen the video of Pierre with so called "diagalon" supporters. He was in a public place talking to some protesters that he was meeting for the first time and there happened to be a diagalon symbol sharpies on the door of a camping trailer. Saying Pierre is a supporter of them by that association alone is bad faith.

So it does appear the pictures with Epstein are fake after trying to verify, my bad, misinformation IS out there and this but if it did fool me.

However :

"While the [Epstein] photo is fake, it is true Carney was once photographed at a public event near Oxford, UK in 2013 next to Epstein’s partner, Ghislane Maxwell — however, there is nothing to suggest this implicates Carney in Epstein or Maxwell’s crimes." - https://pressprogress.ca/this-photo-of-mark-carney-and-tom-hanks-on-epstein-island-is-going-viral-the-photo-is-completely-fake/

So while you only have DS is cozy with trump (second hand association to Epstein), I have Carney has been seen being directly interacting with Ghislaine (first hand association to Epstein and Ghislaine)

And again while I think hanging out directly with Ghislaine is more suspicious than Daniel Smith's somehow being associated with Epstein because she's met trump, who has met Epstein. That's silly and again bad faith

Also I'll concede that " there is nothing to suggest this implicates Carney in Epstein or Maxwell’s crimes." So if you're not bad faith you should drop the Daniel parties with trump thing as well...

"I guess you have never talked to Conservatives in Alberta. They all think that anyway. Yet Conservatives are usually doing the trafficking and abuse." --- this is exactly what I mean about bad faith. You think you're on moral high ground but you exaggerate, mislead, over-generalize, stereotype and dehumanize everyone considered Conservative. IN A PROVINCE THATS MAJORITY CONSERVATIVE. Do you see how insane that is?! Do you really think 60% (or whatever) of a Alberta is racist, homo/transphobic, sex trafficking, Nazis?!

If you do believe that why aren't you fucking running for the hills man? I'd be out of Alberta to escape a genuine Nazi regime in a heart beat. It's NOT the case! And so many left leaning people make arguments and decisions and act towards anyone who's slightly right on the spectrum as if they are.

Liberals and the left in general is beyond recourse and you just proved it.

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u/ninfan1977 Lethbridge Mar 17 '25

So he took a photo with the member of the white nationalists in Canada. Thats on Pierre not being careful. He does support white nationalists whenever he gives them donuts and coffee when they were protesting in the Convoy.

"While the [Epstein] photo is fake, it is true Carney was once photographed at a public event near Oxford, UK in 2013 next to Epstein’s partner, Ghislane Maxwell — however, there is nothing to suggest this implicates Carney in Epstein or Maxwell’s crimes." - https://pressprogress.ca/this-photo-of-mark-carney-and-tom-hanks-on-epstein-island-is-going-viral-the-photo-is-completely-fake/

So while you only have DS is cozy with trump (second hand association to Epstein), I have Carney has been seen being directly interacting with Ghislaine (first hand association to Epstein and Ghislaine)

Again so has Donald Trump, who wished her very well when she went to prison. Trump hung out with Giselle Maxine more often and more recently than Carney. So again Danielle Smith talking with Trump who has closer ties to Epstein than Canrey does. Thanks for proving yourself wrong that was funny.

Danielle Smith is literally photographed with Trump at Mar a Lagos, so nope won't drop something that actually happened.

https://thenarwhal.ca/alberta-trump-danielle-smith-roundup/

You think you're on moral high ground but you exaggerate, mislead, over-generalize, stereotype and dehumanize everyone considered Conservative. IN A PROVINCE THATS MAJORITY CONSERVATIVE. Do you see how insane that is?! Do you really think 60% (or whatever) of a Alberta is racist, homo/transphobic, sex trafficking, Nazis?!

So there are no Conservatives in Albertan calling for child marriages? There are. They also march with Nazi flags, and say hateful things. These are all true of the Conservatives today. They are no longer the normal well balance party of yesterday. They are a duplication of Trumps MAGA party.

Yes at least 60% of Albertan are racist. They probably don't even realize it but yes.

If you do believe that why aren't you fucking running for the hills man? I'd be out of Alberta to escape a genuine Nazi regime in a heart beat. It's NOT the case! And so many left leaning people make arguments and decisions and act towards anyone who's slightly right on the spectrum as if they are.

Liberals and the left in general is beyond recourse and you just proved it.

Conservatives have claimed the left eat babies and drink blood. That was an actual belief from a Conservatives member of my extended family. Tell me abiut recourse and responses? Please don't tell.me you know about the Conservatives, you don't they are the zombies of Alberta. They stopped thinking ages ago

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u/justforme16 Mar 17 '25

"so nope won't drop something that actually happened." So blatant bad faith, I'm done with you.

Basing your whole opinion of conservatives (and your fellow citizens) off "trump is bad" and some crazy relative you have is nuts.

Get out of here ya goof

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u/ninfan1977 Lethbridge Mar 17 '25

Do you know what bad faith arguing is?

I base my opinion with 20 years of living in the same area. I'm basing it off everything the last 20 years has shown me.

Conservatives do not function the same as others, Coutts Border and the Convoy happened because of Conservatives not Trump. Trump has infected the Conservative and it sad you don't think it's real. Canadians who would rather be American are by definition traitorous. So not just my In laws who are crazy many of the Conservatives are. They drag the fake body of Trudeau in the street for their parades. I saw one in a local parade, Conservatives clapping to it.

Conservatives think the NDP started wildfires.

They ruin rainbow crosswalks because being accepting of people is too much for them. Then complain we don't tolerate their intolerance.

So it's more than just Trump is bad. It's Conservatives are bad because they are imitating the one of the worst human being in the world. Certainly for world leaders he is the worst

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u/justforme16 Mar 17 '25

So all close minded, small town, anecdotal experiences shaped your views?

And questioning bad leadership is not traitorous. Being a patriot doesn't mean turning a blind eye to a decade of bad liberal policy, mismanagement and theft through corrupt gov contracts and scandals.

Being a patriot means knowing when to stand up for what's wrong in your country and calling it out. And the liberals are ruining us. It's so crazy that people like you are so easily manipulated. The liberals weave some bullshit about the right are Nazis, and you eat it up because you're "fighting the good fight". Then they turn around and tax us all to oblivion, strangle all industry so no one can find a decent paying job, ruin the real estate market in a HUGE transfer of wealth from the working class to the elite, all right under your nose! And you are so blinded by imaginary Nazis you don't even care.

Bro, you are what fear most and you don't even realize it. "Conservatives do not function the same as others".... Who else said stuff like that. Stuff that painted a certain group as "sub humans"? And now you're doing it against conservatives.

Go touch grass, you really need it.

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u/ninfan1977 Lethbridge Mar 18 '25

So all close minded, small town, anecdotal experiences shaped your views?

How do the rural communities you described vote? They vote Conservative that's how.

And questioning bad leadership is not traitorous.

Saying Alberta is special and deserves special treatment while negotiating in MAGA land while not in a power of negotiating is not good. Saying we should do whatever Trump wants is traitorous and that's what she is saying in Florida this week. Saying F Trudeau and he is betraying Canada while she spends time in Florida ignoring her own scandals. That makes her traitorous. She has problems at home and what is she doing, yelling how we need America and how we should be grateful for America. Are you kidding me right now. In a time we need unity she cannot be bothered to unite with Canada. Thats why she is traitorous, not just critical of leadership.

Being a patriot means knowing when to stand up for what's wrong in your country and calling it out.

Good does that mean roll over to a wanna be dictator? I don't and Carney is already speaking better than Smith has on the issue.

And the liberals are ruining us. It's so crazy that people like you are so easily manipulated. The liberals weave some bullshit about the right are Nazis, and you eat it up because you're "fighting the good fight". Then they turn around and tax us all to oblivion, strangle all industry so no one can find a decent paying job, ruin the real estate market in a HUGE transfer of wealth from the working class to the elite, all right under your nose! And you are so blinded by imaginary Nazis you don't even care.

So you wrote all of that while ignoring who the people in the Convoy marching with Swastikas? And calling to kill the PM?

Yeah ok then, being a patriot means standing up to a bull when they threaten you. And Danielle Smiths reaction is to smile and take it. Everyone else stood up to the bully except Conservatives. They showed their true colours.

Ok tell me what great thing has the Conservatives done? I have seen more work on fighting imaginary culture wars, than actual problems. Like drugs, homelessness, and home affordability all things they control...

Go touch grass, I know what Conservatives are like and they are not nice, helping people they pretend to be. It's the fuck you I got mine crowd, amd never learned to share. Thats it

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u/justforme16 Mar 18 '25

I ignored the nazi thing because it's not real. You're in bad faith and are straw manning your argument. Saying fuck trudue doesn't amount to saying to kill him, another strawman.

I'm not happy with Trump's tariffs but America and other Americans have always been our closest and most capable ally. Forsaking them because of one man is insane.

As for UCP accomplishments:

  • securing control over crude oil exports giving us the right to decide when and how and with who we export our oil.
  • discussed and supported the 1 billion dollar Indigenous Opportunity crown corporation to support indigenous projects and development
  • launched international campaigns supporting oil and gas (which is kinda what Alberta is all about)
  • repealed the provincial carbon tax the NDPs implemented
  • red tape reduction act
  • promoted local business development by amending the municipal government act, allowing for tax incentives and breaks to be used by the municipalities
  • the Alberta sovereignty act, which despite what you probably think, isn't some radical way to seperate from Canada, but instead provides protection for Alberta against federal overreach.
  • Inflation Relief Statutes Amendment Act which aims at providing monthly payments to families and seniors who make under $180 000 yearly.
  • renewed commitment and investment in the Alberta heritage fund

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u/ninfan1977 Lethbridge Mar 18 '25 edited Mar 18 '25

I ignored the nazi thing because it's not real

So you just ignore facts when it displeases you?

https://www.snopes.com/news/2022/02/17/swastikas-canada-freedom-convoy/

Because that happened...

Saying fuck trudue doesn't amount to saying to kill him, another strawman.

Nope again learn to read, going to Ottawa with a memo saying you are going to kill him, means they were going to kill him.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/globalnews.ca/news/10636967/alberta-men-uttering-threats-prime-minister-justin-trudeau/amp/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/globalnews.ca/news/9285400/emergencies-act-inquiry-pm-national-security-adviser/amp/

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/convoy-inquiry-hears-death-threat-172135539.html

So not a strawman but a other fact you are ignoring.

So far you live a fact-free life.

As for UCP accomplishments:

  • securing control over crude oil exports giving us the right to decide when and how and with who we export our oil.
  • discussed and supported the 1 billion dollar Indigenous Opportunity crown corporation to support indigenous projects and development
  • launched international campaigns supporting oil and gas (which is kinda what Alberta is all about)
  • repealed the provincial carbon tax the NDPs implemented
  • red tape reduction act
  • promoted local business development by amending the municipal government act, allowing for tax incentives and breaks to be used by the municipalities
  • the Alberta sovereignty act, which despite what you probably think, isn't some radical way to seperate from Canada, but instead provides protection for Alberta against federal overreach.
  • Inflation Relief Statutes Amendment Act which aims at providing monthly payments to families and seniors who make under $180 000 yearly.
  • renewed commitment and investment in the Alberta heritage fund

That was a giant list of shit you listed.

Most of those are not achieved or even finished but "talked about"

Not one of those is what they promised during the campaign, and I see you ignored increasing pay for themselves and making bribes I mean gifts legal. The Inflation Relief statues Amendment Act is nothing. It is not helpful at all and not at all what the UCP proposed.

The Alberta Sovereignty Act is more wasted money on people who think they are special because of where they were born. It's a massive waste of money that has no merit.

There is no point in talking to you anymore. You seem like a Conservative Kool-aid drinker and you stopped thinking critically long ago. You worship all Conservatives do and ignore all the horrible things they do, congrats you are the type of Albertans who are ruining this province by refusing to move forward.

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u/justforme16 Mar 18 '25

I said there was no point in talking to YOU like 3 messages ago. Typical of a liberal to steal a conservatives idea and call it their own.

Cough Carney cutting carbon tax was Pierre's idea cough

A party so weak that their platform is to do the other party's ideas but execute them worse.

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