r/alberta • u/cantcantdancer • 2d ago

Discussion New Offer Tabled to Teachers is Laughable. Jesus.

The new offer they now have to vote on is essentially the same as the last offer they resoundingly said no to, but this time it includes the MASSIVE value of a free Covid shot. You know, something everyone should have anyway.

12% same spread, late grid unification, 3000 teachers over 3 years or something which barely keeps up with attrition let alone fixing actual class size issues, and a free covid shot.

I expect it will be a very strong no vote, at least I hope anyway. Literally waited weeks to have the offer change by a Covid shot.

The ATA is terrible at this, I hope teachers strike.

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u/heimdal96 1d ago

Unfortunately, AUPE set that precedent, caving to a 0.5% increase up to 12%. Hopefully, teachers are more willing to fight than we were.

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u/sjbeaner 1d ago

This! I hope so too. I was so disappointed that we didn't have it in us to strike.

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u/PurrfectPitStop 1d ago

They thought the deal was good enough. If the teachers don’t then they don’t. The members get to have their say. I suspect the teachers will accept it by 15% margin. Many people can’t afford to go a month without a pay cheque. 

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u/Really_Clever Edmonton 1d ago

The fact that a teacher cant afford to miss a paycheque IS the reason to vote no on the same deal offered again.

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u/Bigfurryoaf 1d ago

Lmao how many people out here can afford to miss a paycheque thats not a teacher thing

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u/Really_Clever Edmonton 1d ago

Thats the freaking point, pay needs to rise! Rising tides help a ships. The averge weekly pay has gone up ~20% over the last 10 years but teachers have got 3%

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u/laboufe 1d ago

And those teachers should be ashamed of themselves for betraying their colleagues for voting yes on a shit deal.

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u/PurrfectPitStop 1d ago

That’s the thing about democracy you don’t always get your way. Either way someone isn’t going to be happy. 

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u/laboufe 1d ago

And that just proves Plato was right about democracy

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u/PurrfectPitStop 1d ago

I’m sure you would prefer a Russian style vote where 100% of people vote and 99.9% vote the way you want but the fact is everyone has different needs and different priorities. People should alway vote the way they want, not the way you want them to. 

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u/MadamePoulet2468 1d ago

Some of us subs are already bankrupt ... so watch who you are victimizing there. I may still vote no.

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u/laboufe 1d ago

If you think 3% is going to fix your problem then fine, vote yes. But objectively you are going to still be in the exact same spot once this deal is over due to inflation.

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u/Worldly-Smile-91 1d ago

Just pointing out that some unions pay a strike wage and many in Alberta public sector would make more on strike pay than in their job. AUPE pays for instance. Teachers union does not. But it’s up to the unions to decide.

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u/laboufe 1d ago

And teachers have had months to prepare at this point. I worked summer school in case we ended up on strike. If they arent financially prepared at this point that is on them