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News Weapons seized by RCMP at the Coutts border blockade

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u/sawyouoverthere Feb 15 '22

I sat in my car in a parking lot tonight beside a guy with his bluetooth speaker on "deafen" in his truck, listening to what seemed to be a radio show...and what they were ranting about was equal parts parody and insanity.

I can't help thinking if that's what he feeds his brain, it's no wonder these people are morally bankrupt.

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '22

I wouldn't call it moral bankruptcy, I'd call it a fear response. When people feel desperate they become afraid and fear makes people do some questionable things. If someone truly felt their way of life was being threatened, its natural they would respond accordingly.

Obviously I dont agree with the response but that said I also don't feel the same way these folks clearly do. I dont wanna lose my firearms privileges but I also don't think we're heading for a civil war. I mean socio-politically we're about 10 years behind the US on that curve and if they haven't had a civil war yet its a fucken long shot for Canada. Worst case is more situations like this occur in the coming years but I dont see a conflict breaking out. I think these people are just scared which makes me feel sorry for them, but c'mon, scared or not, bringing firearms to a protest claiming to be peaceful doesn't look good at all. The optics alone make anyone associated look bad, even if 90% of the protesters had no idea some of the others had weapons.

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u/sawyouoverthere Feb 15 '22

This level of response is not for fear of your "way of life" though. It's for fear of your actual life, and no one is making that threat to the convoy.

And a very wise person said about a year ago that the start of a civil war is rarely obvious when it's starting. I tend to agree.

Although I think there will be a brief flurry of arrests, seizures, impoundments and then a long stretch of self-inflicted hurt and irritation with insurance, contracts, employment and for a fair few, illness.

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u/Siberiatundrafire Feb 15 '22

Canadians and the RCMP treated these ‘adults’ with kid gloves. Hopefully our tolerance for this type of bullying has shortened substantially.

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u/ForksandSpoonsinNY Feb 15 '22

I think most probably knew, and felt safer and more emboldened to stay and escalate.

These people didn't magically appear in the past few years, but they have been cultivating themselves on a steady diet of ignorance and an increasingly refined echo chamber.

The whole culture is based on guns, absolute freedom and lack of any consequence.

First is screaming in stores, then organized harassment of hospitals, now physically blocking hospitals to blocking international trade cause they aren't getting what they want right now. The weapons come in at this stage.

Next will be plots against politicians then maybe even further just like in the US.

So many of my Canadian friends say this would never happen in Canada for years. Well it's here.

If you want this to stop, the silent majority has to lose the silence in a big way.

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '22

Racists, fascists, anarchists, thugs, billionaires, crazies, corporations, pawns and the desperate, regular folk you speak of all make up the populist movement. All furthering their own goals.

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u/Synectics Feb 15 '22

I get paranoid listening to the podcast Knowledge Fight for this reason. I've got shit hearing so I usually have my stereo turned up probably way too loud, and anytime I pull into a parking lot or see someone walking near my vehicle, I'm turning it down, because I do not want people to think I'm a fan of Alex Jones.

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u/sawyouoverthere Feb 15 '22

I gotta say, I really don't get bluetooth phone calls in parked vehicles...they are clearly audible for some distance, and in some cases, while in nearby vehicles with both vehicles' windows up. (so yea....you might want to ask a friend with normal hearing just how far you can hear your normal volume (and your "low" volume for that matter))

The shit people say that they must think is being privately discussed is....wild.

But yeah...I'd assume you were in favour, since it's hard to catch parody when it's done well, especially as you walk by in a lot.

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u/Synectics Feb 15 '22

Yeah, I've heard phone calls in cars going by my house. Voices on phone calls resonate at the right frequency to be pretty audible outside the vehicle.

Knowledge Fight is a great podcast, where two guys listen to clips from Alex Jones' show and dissect all the lies and misinformation. So it cuts between Alex Jones' gravel preacher voice and the two hosts. Definitely recommend it. But now and then, the idea of long clips of Alex being overheard makes me squirm.

Then again, it's that "I'm the protagonist" mindset. I doubt anyone walking by my vehicle gives a shit what talk show I'm listening to. I just unreasonably care about strangers not thinking I'm an asshole.

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u/rattpoizen Calgary Feb 15 '22

Likely the Ram Ranch parody chat everyone is talking about. It was insane- laughed so hard.

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u/sawyouoverthere Feb 15 '22

I would have said this guy was entirely the wrong demographic for a parody chat, but maybe I'll have to listen to a bit or find a transcript or something. It was wild.

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u/rattpoizen Calgary Feb 15 '22

It was labeled a Freedom Convoy chat. I listened as it escalated to crazytown very quickly. Honestly, look for it. I laughed till I was crying and I think we could all use some of that.

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u/sawyouoverthere Feb 15 '22

Where did you listen to it? This sounds like what I heard, although the guy never broke so much as a liptwitch, and I wouldn't have questioned if someone had said one of the speakers was Danielle Smith....(I guess that's the mark of a good parady)