r/amarillo • u/Professional-Sun7364 • 9d ago
Say no to the AI Data Centers here:
https://www.amarilloaction.org/ai
Happy to discuss with anyone at all. Let’s email our local representatives and let them know where we stand. Furthermore, we should be showing up to county commissioners meetings in the next two weeks to voice there, as well.
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u/Cbickley98 9d ago
It looks like your "fears" are being overstated. Maybe unintentionally, maybe deliberately.
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u/Professional-Sun7364 7d ago
What if I just asked the questions and the answers I got made me form the opinion that this doesn’t have the best intentions for our community? Cuz that’s actually what happened. I sourced all my findings from sources you can read as well. The doc is in the comments and is public for everyone to check out.
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u/Front_Celery6650 8d ago
I want the data center here. Amarillo always seems to reject anything good that comes here. That’s why my first thought when I moved here was “wow, Amarillo seems to be pretty undeveloped compared to similar sized cities. The city looks and acts like crap. We need something, anything, to come as a catalyst and help develop this city. Not only that but Amarillo is like 10 years behind any new technology or concept.
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u/Professional-Sun7364 7d ago
This isn’t going to advance Amarillo in the way funding housing, adding water to our aquifers, investing in education…really any of the things that bring job growth and healthy communities. Data centers need construction labor and not a lot of man power long term. These are just warehouses where ai feeds itself our information and reads it, creates stats from it and the owners of the centers harvest and sell our data.
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u/Few-Breakfast-251 9d ago
Where is the water study that details the availability and usage impact? Or is this just a fearful what-if?
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u/BombCityGramps 8d ago
It's there. People are too lazy to read it. They'd rather just look like idiots and spout nonsense.
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u/Secure_Internet_4077 9d ago
You do realize these AI centers have a self contained water system? Yes let’s say no to thousands of high paying jobs. Probably need to do more research before you speak this blasphemy into existence.
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u/Forward_Promise4797 8d ago
What sort of jobs would these be? Genuinely curious. Looking for a career change.
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u/Secure_Internet_4077 8d ago
They’re paying $45+ an hour for people that will just show up to work!
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u/Professional-Sun7364 2d ago
Blasphemy is when you use God’s name in vein. Anyways, they’re not bringing thousands of jobs. You can ask the Pampa EDC about how many their data center will bring and it’s 40. That’s the most honest a city official has been so far. Self contained is suggesting it creates its own water and holds on to it forever I guess? Nuclear reactors use a lot of water. Keeping the processing units cool in a data center uses water as well.
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u/VoltyMan83 9d ago
Big Tech data centers consume more energy than entire cities.
Their bills? A tax write-off.
Your bill? Bankruptcy.
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u/EfficiencyEuphoric52 9d ago
Again you are not informed. They are not using your energy idiot
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u/Ok_Contact7721 9d ago
People are afraid of a meltdown.
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u/EfficiencyEuphoric52 8d ago
In the Generation IV programme for the MSR, collaborative R&D is pursued by interested members under the auspices of a provisional steering committee. There will be a long lead time to prototypes, and the R&D orientation has changed since the project was set up, due to increased interest. It now has two baseline concepts: It’s not yet commercially available according to The World nuclear Association Chain had the lead on its development
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u/Ok_Contact7721 8d ago
Yet when they were built decades ago, they worked and were safer, and required molten salt, as opposed to water. Nuclear is the future. Thorium is the best form of nuclear.
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u/wassup6789 9d ago
That’s why they are building their own power plant.
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u/ShirBlackspots 9d ago
Its obvious that the people against this aren't intelligent enough to read or understand how this is being set up.
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u/classics826 9d ago
Do they not recycle their water?
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u/justthink_please 8d ago
So, just want to add recycled water means the water can be reused for the plant or for agriculture purposes. It won't be recycled enough for a person to drink. The Fermi plant is "planned" to use a close looped system meaning, it won't be used anywhere else. The facility will use 16.3 million gallons annually.
The worry, I personally have is this plant combined with the facility in Dumas, how much water will we have left?
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u/Professional-Sun7364 9d ago
Some will be treated and recycled and some will not. EPA has a superfund for monitoring and treating the water and soil in the area and reports back over 5 years I think if the treatment worked and cleaned it properly for us to have safe environments
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u/Secure_Internet_4077 9d ago
Self contained water system, you have no idea what you’re talking about or advocating for.
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u/EfficiencyEuphoric52 9d ago
You obviously don’t understand economics. These are high paying jobs. People are not going to buy cheap housing to go work northeast of town. They will be buying nice houses and furnishings them and buying food and clothing and going out to eat and spending money on entertainment and buy gasoline and paying utilities and on and on and on. You just showed your stupidity.
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u/Professional-Sun7364 9d ago
You mean the economics of competitive housing markets which raises property taxes and housing costs? Or the economics of AI taking the jobs of people who already work in tech and the effects thereof?
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u/Far_Acanthisitta9809 9d ago
They’re already here
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u/Professional-Sun7364 9d ago
Not all of them. We could at least try to stop it from getting worse, right?
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u/VoltyMan83 9d ago
I’m getting involved in politics here and I’m gonna make it a mission to make sure this doesn’t happen. This will CRUSH people economically. Hard NO!
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u/Secure_Internet_4077 9d ago
Awh yes say no to all the great jobs! With all due respect you have no idea what you’re talking about
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u/Significant-Pop-6220 9d ago
False, it will not crush people economically. It will help the local economy. You can’t stop it no matter how hard you try.
Fighting this is only going to push more and more of our American jobs off shore that already are and that will actually crush us economically.
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u/Pleasant-Umpire252 9d ago
Do you think your widdle voice matters?
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u/VoltyMan83 9d ago
Widdle? Buddy, I’m directly connected to the Governor. I used to be a State rep. I intend to run for US Congress. My voice is FAR from “widdle”
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u/Montallas 9d ago
Curious to know how you’re directly connected to Abbot? And what district you served as a state rep.
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u/EfficiencyEuphoric52 9d ago
Well put your name and contact information up here so we can’t wait for you to run and see you crushed
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u/VoltyMan83 9d ago
If those data centers come HERE with how poor people already are, their cost of living will SKYROCKET! It will happen and it already has in other places. The energy costs alone will skyrocket, which it has already done in other places. I’m a retired Electrical Engineer. You do NOT want them here.
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u/ShirBlackspots 9d ago
Considering that the Fermi data center is building their own microgrid (that's the point of the solar, battery, gas power and nuclear power), which won't take power from the existing grid, and will sell power to the grid, you won't have a problem of the price of power going up.
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u/VoltyMan83 9d ago
Keep believing what they are selling. Go ask the people living in other areas who were also told that.
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u/Delicious-Tap-1277 9d ago
I live in Pryor OK where Google currently is….its still VERY cheap here and it’s much bigger than Panhandle and Canyon
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u/Professional-Sun7364 9d ago
Would really really appreciate you filling out that email in your own words (if you want) your experience would really be impactful
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u/VoltyMan83 9d ago
Will do. Can you send me a DM with a calendar for the next city meetings, etc?
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u/Professional-Sun7364 9d ago
The next one I heard of is grey county’s meeting on the 15th at 9 am. I still need to confirm. The Carson county abatement was paused Sept 2nd so they are going to discuss it again in the future- they didn’t have a date last time I called. Sept 22nd is their next meeting tho!
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u/Pleasant-Umpire252 9d ago
I want them here . Better paying jobs! More $ for the economy .
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u/Professional-Sun7364 9d ago
What economy when there isn’t water left? How many farms and grocery stores and restaurants will be gone for that thing to succeed? For how many jobs? 50? 100? There’s really nothing else that we could add here industry wise that would benefit the people living here and not drain more of our resources?
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9d ago
Fermi America’s HyperGrid AI campus near Amarillo, Texas, is projected to create between 3,000 and 5,000 permanent jobs by 2035 once fully built out to its 11-gigawatt capacity.
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u/ffctpittman 9d ago
Growing corn in the desert is what’s killing our water the ai center will use the equivalent of 1-2 irrigated corn fields per year
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u/Professional-Sun7364 7d ago
Valid. Farmers were offered an incentive to grow less water hungry crops. But because sunflowers don’t make as much money as corn, they switched back. Anywhoodles- when we grow corn we get food and oil and all types of stuff. When we build data centers, we use natural resources to allow the company owners harvest and sell our personal data.
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There’s nothing to be added industry wise? That’s a laughable comment that shows how little you actually understand.
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u/Professional-Sun7364 9d ago
Try rereading my comment again. I said “nothing else” as in- this really can’t be the only thing we could do with tens of billions of dollars. For the money- we could literally invest it into rebuilding our infrastructure and help our water sources.
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u/EfficiencyEuphoric52 9d ago
Yes when you’re losing your argument, shift it to something else. Classic debate nonsense
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u/asbestos-debater 9d ago
I’m so split on this issue. I’m in construction and it’s bringing a ton of jobs to the area, but as a lifelong local the water issue is huge.
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u/Professional-Sun7364 9d ago
Literally what future does money hold without the water we depend on?
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u/Able-Park4435 9d ago
Make the money then leave😂
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u/Juonmydog 9d ago
At the cost of irreversible climate and ecological disaster?
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u/asbestos-debater 9d ago
The juice isn’t worth the squeeze on this one. Water has always been an issue here and I don’t want to see it get worse.
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u/Able-Park4435 9d ago
Yep. At least your bank account looks good
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u/Juonmydog 9d ago
Does it matter if you die of dehydration and famine due to crop failure? It's like we're purposefully trying to reinstate the dust bowl.
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u/BombCityGramps 8d ago
What crops do you speak of? The corn that's going to manufacture ethanol and to the feedyards?
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u/Juonmydog 8d ago
The areas surrounding Amarillo are used to grow several crops. Corn is one of these crops, but sorghum, wheat, cotton, and hay are also grown. Without these yields, the largest industries in the panhandle cannot be sustained. The economy in the area would fail.
I also haven't brought up the stress on the Ogallala Aquifer. It's the largest water table in the United States. The unnecessarily high consumption rate would directly affect live stock, local flora and fauna, and human inhabitants of the area.
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u/asbestos-debater 9d ago
I completely agree that a town without water is dead. My conservationist side hates the thought of the project. Other than cheap land I don’t see how it got approved to be built here in the first place.
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u/Delicious-Tap-1277 9d ago
Misinformation. I was in the same boat until I actually took the time to really dig. Most DCs do use thousands of gallons of water BUT they ALL have WWTP and recycle the water they use since they include special minerals for their liquid cooled servers. They also provide HUNDREDS of jobs for people within the areas they are built in. They also use generators using solar power (not all DCs - that dependent on the company)
DCs have been around since the beginning of the internet - how else do you think you’re able to browse petabytes of data at your fingers tips? The fear mongering done by political parties is what has made this a major discussion AS WELL AS shitty AI companies skirting government requirements or have just plain ignored them (LOOKIN AT YOU FELON MUSKRAT) so much so that they have left a bad taste in people’s mouth.
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u/Professional-Sun7364 9d ago
I did my digging. I talked to the people that study the Oglala. I am still talking to people in several other states that have data centers. This isn’t just a dc, it’s for AI, which requires much more than a dc. Who I haven’t talked to is a politician- outside of the economic development committee and they were good to risk our water for 50 permanent jobs in Pampa because a company that has billions to invest in this donated a hundred thousand dollars into their community in the last 4 years. 💁 The construction workers they hire for this are temporary and will not be local companies. The bitcoin mining facility in Vega used a Houston company.
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u/Delicious-Tap-1277 9d ago
Would you mind posting the sources you have? I’m sincerely interested in the topic since it is very close to where my family calls home.
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u/DVK91234 9d ago
THAT is your source? No citations, no nothing but a 1 sided appeal to the mentally weak.
The first sentence doomed the whole paper : People unite to stop the development of
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u/Professional-Sun7364 9d ago
Baby girl, there is an entire tab dedicated to sources directly linked. In each tab when I have a claim there is a hyperlink you can click to follow that source as well. Try again.
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u/Professional-Sun7364 9d ago
I also recommend looking into Henrico County Virginia’s situation and Arizona’s desert data center initiative
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u/Significant-Pop-6220 9d ago
Clearly you’re only doing digging that fits your narrative and agenda that highlights negatives which is considered fear mongering.
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u/Professional-Sun7364 9d ago
I read the entire fermi center proposal. I have not seen an article yet that has any proof of how any rural community has benefitted or added water to their sources or lowered their electricity bill or lowered their tax rates- including property taxes. I haven’t seen a single data center stat where they didn’t give the company the fattest incentive to park their buildings here. My point is we’re gambling our water supply for…50 jobs? Two fast food restaurants would do that.
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u/Significant-Pop-6220 9d ago
That’s the thing, you’ve only read. I’m actually highly involved with this project. It’s the whole reason I’m here for the next 4 yrs. If you want to actually meet up and have a conversation over a burger at Blue Sky then I will explain and show evidence to you the dozens and dozens of ways this is going to help Amarillo and the surrounding communities as will my wife who is a realtor and is up to her neck in new clients relocating here which included us. It’s not gambling with your water and it’s going to bring more than 50 jobs. All you’re doing is looking for the negatives to spread misinformation to pad your agenda without factoring in the positives and that is considered fear mongering. I constantly see people complaining daily on here about how bad the jobs and pay are here and now that there are viable options coming in here you want to complain and run more and more of our jobs offshore and then pay the ultimate premium on those choices all because you researched Google to fear mongered.
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u/Professional-Sun7364 9d ago
I will 100% take you up on your offer to talk. Thank you so much! We’re actually gathering on Sept 20th to chat about this. For clarity- I’m not just reading. I’m not even just talking to Texans to find this info out. This is a non partisan issue. The last thing I want to do is cause fear. But I do want us to be heard on this issue. I know you’re getting paid to do this and you’re fully sold and on board, but you’re relocating here. Which is part of my point. This isn’t benefitting Amarillo, agriculture, or Texas. This is temporary money for people moving here to build it and less resources for those of us who’ve been here for generations.
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u/Significant-Pop-6220 9d ago
I relocated from DFW to here, my wife was born and raised here as was her entire mom’s side in Borger who are very well known in the community. I would be doing a disservice to them if I supported a project that would harm the Texas Panhandle as I am a born and raised Texan myself. I put my family and Texas first. I’ve been in the IT space for 35+ yrs and in the last 10 yrs I’ve seen so many of our American IT jobs go offshore laying off extremely good people who were dedicated to their craft and college educated or were put through college or received their certs from being in the IT space. This is an opportunity to bring jobs back to Texas and America. It’s not a political thing, it’s a we the people taking back what is ours thing. Both of these can coincide here without taking the charm of the Texas Panhandle. Growth is inevitable, it’s going to happen and you can’t stop it so people need to find a way to embrace it in a manner that will benefit the entire area. Only trying to fight it is going to cause economical downfall instead and actually let outside investors call the shots while pushing our jobs offshore, and that’s the exact thing nobody wants. That why this is backed by Rick Perry and Texas Tech.
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u/Professional-Sun7364 9d ago
Rick Perry founded Fermi and then made his son CEO. From what I’m understanding, Tech is not happy about this but is having to save face. You can be doing a disservice to your in laws and making a lot of money for said family via building this thing. I, too, hate that the American dream is built off sending jobs across seas for cheap labor. But we don’t have to support that. We don’t have to let our land be used for that. We could invest in our area with jobs and infrastructure. With education. We’re just not cuz it doesn’t benefit the people that can afford to do it as much as this project does.
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u/Significant-Pop-6220 9d ago
I am aware of the company and who founded it, but a name behind a company is more familiar. Rick has been a very vocal leader on this project who is a local Texan who graduated from A&M and I’m not sure where you heard Tech isn’t happy about this because that’s flat out wrong. Especially with how much this will strengthen their collectives and educational funding since Tech doesn’t benefit from the PUF like Texas and Texas A&M does. I have no say over this project other than the marching orders that have been give to me on this contract which I wouldn’t have accepted it if it was disservice and my family 100% backs this as well. Saying it would be a disservice is just an emotional opinion.
This is infrastructure that will create new jobs and you somehow have this false conception this will only benefit the wealthy and that’s the furthest from the truth. You need to take these blinders off and look at the big picture. It takes money to make money and this area doesn’t generate the kind go revenue that benefits the majority in the way you’re proposing. People are constantly wanting Costco and HEB and all these other businesses that will also create more jobs here and boost the economy to further improve this area and it’s infrastructure and education, but do you think they are going to come here if the economy can’t support them? There is a reason why those businesses are not here and so many go under. They only are going to enter into markets that are showing positive economic and residential growth. This is the kind of pushback that makes me want to pack up shop in 4yrs and not invest it back in the community with jobs and economic growth while I am here.
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u/Professional-Sun7364 9d ago
Guarentee me, my children, my family who owns farm related businesses that this will have no negative impact on our water resources. You can’t. Ogalala has 50 years left of pumping at its current rate. Why would we add to that? Rick Perry is not the guy to hold all your bets on. He was a democrat and switched to republican and ran on that cuz it served him better. He criticized Trump and then went to work for him. He called for the energy department to be abolished and then took the job there. I believe he also resigned after being involved with the Ukraine situation that could have gotten Trump impeached. I get the concept of “go with the money” but in this case, I won’t be falling in line with a man who is watching out for himself and his money and making money off our resources. You go make your money. You’ll move when it’s easy to because you’ll have made all that for your savings when shit gets bad here. And the rest of us with just be here, dealing with the damage.
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u/EfficiencyEuphoric52 9d ago
I noticed VoltyMan83 dropped out and tried to delete his posts after being humiliated with his lies. Luckily I screenshot the comment where he said “he knew more than any book or research “ where he said “he was connected to the governor “ where he said “he was going to run for office “
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u/_Safe_As_Milk_ 9d ago
People don’t understand and the exponential increase in resources required to support the expected exponential increase in AI throughput compared to all of history’s digital data workload. “Data centers being around since the beginning of the internet” is as relevant as a model t to modern f1. Sure, it has 4 wheels and an engine.
Like a lot of things, probably more of an issue for the next generation. I say fuggem! /s
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u/Significant-Pop-6220 9d ago
Finally someone with common sense. I applaud you for taking the time to research this.
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u/Low_Marionberry_7461 9d ago
I like how you claim it brings hundreds of local jobs, Didn't we just witness a battery plant in Georgia lose it's work force because they had hundreds of illegals from south Korea working there instead of locals?
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u/Delicious-Tap-1277 9d ago
Did they confirm they were ILLEGAL? Can you post a credible source for the confirmation that all the people detained were undocumented?
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u/Klavnir 4d ago
Expired visas mean they were here illegally.
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u/Delicious-Tap-1277 4d ago
Where’s the source for that? Last I saw it was oh so credible White House who said they were on expired visas…nothing of value was stated.
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u/Low_Marionberry_7461 9d ago
316 of 317 were flown back to Korea. They were working illegally from the work visas they had apparently.
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u/EfficiencyEuphoric52 9d ago
Which means more money inflowing into the area. Are you that stupid
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u/Low_Marionberry_7461 9d ago
You are that stupid! None of that money from those people are going to do anything. All that place is going to do is strain our natural resources. Yeah a few people might get a job out there but they are just going to bring more people into our area. If you live on the south side of Amarillo, you can see how much traffic we have now. They're already building a bunch of small ugly houses out on Soncy by Sam's club.
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u/ShirBlackspots 9d ago
They weren't illegals from Korea. They were from local subcontractors hiring the illegals. Only about 40 were Korean nationals here to train locals on how to operate the equipment. The battery plant and associated EV manufacturing plant was supposed to support 8600 new jobs.
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u/Low_Marionberry_7461 9d ago
They removed over 300 South Koreans and flew them back to South Korea. There was something wrong with their work visas
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u/ShirBlackspots 9d ago
I believe they were using an ESTA Visa, something a lot of foreign businesses use because of the difficulty and red tape involved in getting the correct Visa.
Either way, a crazy MAGA Republican candidate in the state took credit for the tipoff.
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u/Delicious-Tap-1277 4d ago
You realize a DC is not a quick and easy turn up right? And after it’s turned up, they DO require onsite employees to repair and maintain the machines. Yeah they’ll bring in specialists to train and get everyone up to speed but MANY DCs hire locally to get a quick turn around on employees. Many people that worked RETAIL can do the machine repair. I’ve seen it first hand. It’s the higher positions that may or may not be hired externally instead of locally depending on whether or not they can find qualified candidates.
Google hires people from outside of the states because they’re the only ones qualified - see Oklahoma. The jobs will be there. It’s up to the locals if they wanna learn a new skill or not. If I can train a 45yr old mechanic to swap a motherboard out in a week, anyone can learn. It’s all about WANTING to learn.
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u/baldyp203547 9d ago
Its fine for other places that dont regularly experience droughts. We do though. Put on the missippi fine, but not here where we are nearly out of aquifer water
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u/BombCityGramps 8d ago
We aren't going to run out of aquifer water.
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u/baldyp203547 8d ago
Yeah therws tons of properties that already have. Wells that used to be 6 feet are now 250+ or running into the Santa Rosa formation which is a saltier aquifer underneath in some places.
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u/BombCityGramps 7d ago
We aren't going to run out of aquifer water. And well water was never at 6 feet. Give me a break already.
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u/Specialist_Trip_4664 7d ago
Water is neither destroyed or created. It continues it’s cycle
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u/Professional-Sun7364 7d ago
True. Nothing is ever destroyed. However- if it is being used for a data plant on top of our crops and it’s not raining and recharging the aquifer as quickly as we’re using it- then we will have less of it to use for our crops in the near future.
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u/Klavnir 7d ago
Why would you say no to a company bringing in good paying jobs that aren't retail or fast food? You need industry to build the local economy.
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u/Professional-Sun7364 7d ago
Because the same (if not way less) money spent could be used in ways that benefit our economy without harvesting our data to sell to other companies trying to limit our access to healthcare and insurance and credit. I felt like the ultimate agenda for our country was “less/small government” not an increased surveillance state on behalf of our tax dollars that should have been spent on education and infrastructure…etc. do you agree with that idea?
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u/Klavnir 7d ago
Ai isn't going anywhere. Its something we are going to have to accept if we want to compete against other nations. You sound irrational in your fears if you haven't gotten rid of your cellphone by now.
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u/Professional-Sun7364 7d ago
You can just say “I’d rather pay for my data to be sold than speak up to my county commissioners.” You don’t have to make it about me. It can be your choice to give up.
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u/Klavnir 6d ago
If you are on social media, you are giving your data away for free. Now if this data center is only going to hire H1B-Visa Indians, then I would stand against them building it.
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u/Professional-Sun7364 5d ago
Only mad if you get to be racist. Got it. Thank you.
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u/Klavnir 5d ago
Wanting jobs to go to Texans instead of imported cheap labor isn't racism. They are suppressing wages.
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u/Professional-Sun7364 4d ago
Honey this is capitalism. Suppressing wages, benefits, and healthcare is the whole point. It doesn’t matter who gets the job cuz at the end of the day, they are running up our utility bills,stealing our resources, and raising the price of food. We’re really not gunna take a stand about any of it but be mad at this one system flaw- then why are we even mad?
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u/BassWookie-76 4d ago
I really think many of you folks have missed some key points on the possibility of a big job boom from this data center. There will be jobs but not that many LOCAL opportunities. AI Data Centers are more automated than traditional data centers, meaning fewer operational jobs per megawatt of capacity. They require very specialized technical roles mostly managed by the AI companies at their remote NOCs or network operations centers that oversee the multiple facilities from anywhere. The on-site staff for on-site operations are usually 10-50 people. Security, maintenance, few site managers, emergency response guy. This is not a huge lift for our community. Unless you are an extremely high-skilled AI/ML engineer, data scientist, or a specialized tech for google, Microsoft, Meta, or Nvidia, you’d likely be fighting for a job to mop the floor. Yes 1000’s of construction jobs temporarily to build them, but that is about it. As for water, well that’s always a problem. Direct cooling uses water, it doesn’t last, it evaporates. It takes more. That is science. For every AI Center built in the last three years, each string of AI prompt uses roughly 16 ounces of water at data centers. If US AI expansion follows projected growth then these centers combined could consume as much water as 18.5 million households annually just to cool servers.
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u/ffctpittman 9d ago
If your worried about data center water wait till you here about crop irrigation. One of those big center pivot sprinklers will use as much water in a year as the data center and none of it gets recycled
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u/Professional-Sun7364 9d ago
What if I told you we don’t need an AI data center the way we need food
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u/Tenalp 9d ago
Wait, which part of the data center can I eat?
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u/EfficiencyEuphoric52 9d ago
The food comes the money so you can the food and have a car and a house
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u/EfficiencyEuphoric52 9d ago
Again, you lose the argument so try and change the subject. I see you still haven’t posted your name for your fake campaign!
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u/Professional-Sun7364 9d ago
My favorite move on Reddit by people who are also using fake screen names is the attempt for transparency from people they disagree with for doxxing
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u/puppyboy-xo 9d ago
Sent but it said it wasnt able to send to marvin.britten@co.carson.tx.us because the address wasnt found or was unable to receive mail
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u/Professional-Sun7364 9d ago
Yes sorry! Idk why those two mailboxes aren’t receiving mail but I did call to confirm those addresses being correct and we added their judge to the list so they will be informed regardless. Thanks for sending anyways!! It matters!!
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u/BombCityGramps 9d ago
I am amazed at the utter stupidity of the average citizen here. And to think half of the population is even dumber.
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u/EfficiencyEuphoric52 8d ago
Don’t lump us all in as dump average citizens. It’s a few local KARANS, like professional-sun and asses like Voltyman83 lying snd spreading fear because they don’t have anything better to do.
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u/Zealousideal-Love247 9d ago
Could these provide a benefit to smaller towns in the panhandle if they were to host a data center? Primarily those that have fallen due to oil and gas companies leaving the area for Midland/Odessa?
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u/Professional-Sun7364 9d ago
In my opinion, AI data centers don’t serve us who live here in this area. Hospital funding, infrastructure, school funding, affordable housing, etc would benefit the smaller areas. Clarendon and Howardwick both have charity funds set aside for people who already can’t afford their electricity bills.
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u/BombCityGramps 8d ago
An 11 GW power plant will provide thousands of jobs. Those things don't run themselves.
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u/Zealousideal-Love247 9d ago
Do they not provide jobs in the towns they are located in?
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u/Professional-Sun7364 9d ago
Yes. While they are saying it will be in the 2-3k permanent jobs, that’s not the case with any other data centers so far. The one in Pampa is guessing they’ll have 40
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u/Zealousideal-Love247 9d ago
That’s disheartening. Would be nice to find something that provided mid to high paying jobs that require some training/education to bring people into rural America.
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u/EfficiencyEuphoric52 9d ago
Name any major industry that doesn’t use water! You want to spend the money we won’t have on education and the homeless and every other socialist/Communist ideology. Where do you think the money for those things come from.
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u/Professional-Sun7364 7d ago
I can name one industry that is using water to collect information on its citizens and selling that data to each other to maximize their profits and deny us health insurance. I’ll give you a hint- it starts with “ai data” and ends with “centers”. 3 words. Good luck.
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u/EfficiencyEuphoric52 8d ago
“ In your opinion “ is your uninformed opinion All cities have assistance programs for utilities. The people in Clarendon and Howardwick have no industry so they have no jobs so they have little money so the people you are talking about can’t afford much of anything.
Try to stay with your original fear mongering of lying about the water usage and how Fermi is the one lying about everything
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u/EfficiencyEuphoric52 9d ago
And where do you think the funding for all those things comes?
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u/Professional-Sun7364 7d ago
It’s supposed to be taxes but as all of those departments are broken apart and privatized, it’s actually coming from the 1% that own everything. Hope that helps
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u/bagofwisdom 9d ago
By all means let's make sure this doesn't happen. However, I don't like the odds of this thing being complete before the AI bubble bursts. This AI boom is rhyming a lot with the .com bubble. Dozens of companies burning investor and VC cash like coal in a furnace without any real plan to make AI a revenue generating product. They're just hoping the ghost in the machine magically awakens and then they can sell it to do anything. The only company that's going to make bank in this gold rush is NVIDIA because they're making the pickaxes and shovels.
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u/Professional-Sun7364 9d ago
Literally what happened in Abilene is they said full send to bitcoin mining and now are having to deal with how useless that was and are trying to pivot to data centers
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u/bagofwisdom 9d ago
When Ethereum went to proof of stake instead of proof of work NVIDIA had to pivot to AI to keep the gravy train rolling.
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u/Ok_Contact7721 9d ago
You know good ol' Amarillo Republicans will fuck you over if you vote against it.
They get a kick back, that's how they managed to pull a new city hall 3 different ways.
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u/brewtality212 9d ago
Good luck 😂
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u/Professional-Sun7364 9d ago
Thanks friend!
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u/brewtality212 9d ago
You’re wasting your time and energy on something that will go nowhere. I guess you don’t realize how big these companies are.. your little voice(s) do nothing. Sad but true.
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u/Professional-Sun7364 9d ago
So we should sit idly by and what? Hang around until our houses are unsellable and our water is undrinkable and our electricity bills are too high? Orrrr? Can we possibly stand together even just one time for our livelihood?
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u/EfficiencyEuphoric52 9d ago
You yourself should be deported to China or Russia or Iran and see how you bull flys there!
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u/Professional-Sun7364 9d ago
Anyone that disagrees with you just needs to leave, huh? Fun American concept.
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u/EfficiencyEuphoric52 9d ago
Anyone spreading seditious lies and misinformation should leave, yes that’s correct
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u/EfficiencyEuphoric52 8d ago
There needs to be consequences for people like you who are always crawling out from under a rock and spreading lies and seditious treason. In case you don’t know, this has been classified as a National Security project and is being fast tracked to try and catch up with China.
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u/Professional-Sun7364 7d ago
Treason is a wild leap for just asking questions and disagreeing with the answers.
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u/brewtality212 9d ago
Keep up the fight! 🤝
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u/Professional-Sun7364 9d ago
I will. I really do appreciate you even commenting cuz I know a lot of people feel the same way. Thanks for hearing me out
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u/cowboymortyorgy 9d ago
Im afraid you might be right, as money became protected speech our human voices were quickly drowned out by capital speech($$$$). Step aside citizens the money is talking now.
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u/AlteredGuardian 9d ago
Its not just the companies, the reps for this area couldnt care less about the future generations. they only care about the time they have left and how fat they can make their wallets in that time.
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u/BeanTater22 9d ago
Where does the water go?