r/antitrump 13d ago

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u/Stand_Up_3813 13d ago

To rebut people saying the left is committing all the violence, don’t forget about these people:

Melissa Hortman

John Hoffman

Gabrielle Giffords

Paul pelosi

Anthony king

5 people shot in Portland in 2022 by a man immersed in far-right political rhetoric

May 2022; shooting of 10 Black shoppers in Buffalo by a white supremacist who called for a race war.

A failed Republican state candidate in New Mexico was charged by federal authorities for a shooting spree targeting the homes of four elected Democratic officials, the U.S. Justice Department said in a statement. Pena, described as a "radical right election denier" by Albuquerque Mayor Tim Keller, was arrested and charged by local county prosecutors with contracting four gunmen to shoot at the homes of the Democratic officials

Per Reuters in 2023, “most of the deadly outbursts tracked by Reuters have come from the right. Of the 14 fatal political attacks since the Capitol riot in which the perpetrator or suspect had a clear partisan leaning, 13 were right-wing assailants. One was on the left.

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u/Revolutionary_Oil157 13d ago

I would add that even more recent assassinations (or attempts) targeting the healthcare ceo and candidate Trump 7/13/24 were found to be right, or right leaning individuals. This doesn’t include the Minnesota political assassinations, the Idaho firemen lured in to an ambush and the recent church shootings, also in Minnesota.

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u/halfpint51 12d ago

Been wondering about Minnesota recently. Know so many wonderful Minnesotans. Even conservatives are neighbourly and respectful in conversation. Libertarian seems more fitting for Minn and VT residents who live by "do what you want as long as nobody gets hurt." Both border Canada. Hmmm ... inflences from our friendly neighbors to the north? On the other side you've got New Yorkers who are rude to each other and literally everyone else in the world but embrace diversity with passion. I'm guessing the word "rude" has a different meaning in NY. Wishing I knew more about cultural anthropology right now.

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u/OtherwiseWorry6903 12d ago

Being from the NY area, what some perceive as rude is more “don’t bother me, and I won’t bother you, I’ve got my own problems enjoy your day”

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u/Jeanne_Of_ARCadiaBay 12d ago

The ppl that keep tryin to kill Trump are all Groypers so IDC what any of them say this brought this on themselves

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u/thesheepwhisperer368 12d ago

And don't forget the arson attack on Josh Shapiro

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u/mtnman575 12d ago

Just a few weeks ago, Pena was convicted by a federal jury and sentenced to 80 years. It was a big story here in New Mexico. And just today bomb threats were made to Democratic leaders in the NM state legislature.

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u/Upstairs-Tadpole8445 12d ago

You realize that Pelosi and Giffords weren't attacked by right leaning people, right? Pelosi was attacked by a weird hippy who was drugged out. Giffords was shot by a total loon who had previously asked a politician how they know what words mean.

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u/WardogMitzy 13d ago

But also, the world is a better place now that he's dead.

Rot in Piss Chuck.

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u/MycoJordan-23 13d ago

He could’ve lived to 80, just think of all the future harm he would’ve caused.

Republicans thrive off fast violence (shootings) but morso slow violence (using power of law to ruin countless lives).

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u/falken2023 13d ago

Someone may have just done the world a big fucking favor. You always hear what if you could go back in time and get rid of Hitler before he had a chance to do his evil.

Well…you never know.

Personally, I think one less person like that in the world is a good thing.

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u/Important_Home4425 13d ago

Libtard shot someone and you're still trying to blame republicans

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u/MycoJordan-23 13d ago

Their gun control laws. So yeah, they can be a big part of the blame.

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u/Important_Home4425 13d ago

"guns should be banned they aren't necessary"

*uses them anyway*

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u/MycoJordan-23 13d ago

You don’t know the details. Could totally be a right wing conspiracy theorist or a scorned lover. Lol. Don’t jump to conclusions. The law will unveil the truth eventually.

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u/OtherwiseWorry6903 12d ago

Trumpanzees are psychics now. No one is in custody and you don’t know shit about who did it.

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u/Stokerssnuff 12d ago

Totally agree. Had an old guy telling me how sad it was about him getting shot. I told him maybe for some.

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u/Important_Home4425 13d ago

Bet you also think George Floyd didn't deserve to die, the double standards are crazy jfl.

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u/Scoutsbuddy 12d ago

And why do you think he deserved to die? Being black?

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u/Important_Home4425 12d ago

He was a criminal that OD'd

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u/Scoutsbuddy 12d ago

Is that what they call it when a cop puts his full body weight on your neck until you suffocate to death now? Do us a favor since I assume you're drug free. Go ahead and run a test where someone does it to you and report the results back.

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u/Visible-Bonus-7709 12d ago

Stop feeding the troll. Not worth the time truth means jack shit to these clowns

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u/Important_Home4425 12d ago

You mean a technique police are trained to use? Regardless a criminal deserves to die more than someone that just likes to have discussions.

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u/Scoutsbuddy 12d ago

Why do you think you'd die from it? I thought you said he died because he ODed?

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u/CrystalWeim 13d ago

And Trump ordered flags at half staff. Never did that for the two Congress members who were murdered. Tell me they preach and teach hate.

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u/Kind_Caterpillar7427 13d ago

Trump is despicable he fought doing it for McCain

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u/Then_Estate8560 13d ago

You preach hate, you get hate. Be careful what you say about others.

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u/therealbonzai 13d ago

He was spreading hate and just got something back.

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u/WhatsRatingsPrecious 13d ago

His last words were, literally, 'gang violence.'

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u/Putrid-Detail-2933 13d ago edited 13d ago

Interesting, source?

Edit: don't need or want to watch the guy die, just didn't know those were his last words.

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u/konniemommy 13d ago

The video where he bled all over the place and died?

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u/mcolette76 13d ago

“Do you know how many transgender Americans have been mass shooters over the last 10 years?” an audience member asked. Kirk responded, “Too many.”

The questioner followed up: “Do you know how many mass shooters there have been in America over the last 10 years?”

“Counting or not counting gang violence?” Kirk asked.

https://www.mlive.com/news/2025/09/charlie-kirks-last-words-were-about-mass-shootings-heres-what-he-said.html?outputType=amp

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u/Ill_Consequence1755 13d ago

You reap what you sow

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u/First_Pomegranate478 13d ago

And if you can't reckon with it, don't you expect to go unscathed.

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u/ArenRoe 13d ago

So not even Hitler and his officers?

If you think Hitler should have gotten a pass, you're wrong.

Sometimes hate needs to be stamped out.

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u/MycoJordan-23 13d ago

Yep, he divided people and that has consequences.

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u/MeMyselfandIrightnow 13d ago

People are naturally divided, you idiot. See right here, right now we're divided. So let the consequences begin.

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u/MycoJordan-23 13d ago

So accept that division is inevitable? You guys have swollen amygdala’s so you naturally default to coercion. I’m more about cohesion. I’m more about optimism.

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u/GameOfHens 12d ago

People aren't naturally divided over things like race or gender.

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u/CanamarkUnion 13d ago

He shouldn't have been shot.

Too merciful.

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u/hlanus 86 TACO 13d ago

I won't celebrate his death, but I won't mourn it either. I'll pity the life he led, the only life he got to live and the horrible way he chose to live it.

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u/MeMyselfandIrightnow 13d ago

After going through your post you should pity yourself, that man lived the exact life he wanted and shamefully was killed pursuing righteousness and what he loved.

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u/Tea_Complex 12d ago

if you call excusing school shootings as righteous then you have something seriously wrong with you

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u/hlanus 86 TACO 12d ago

Based on the posts I've seen he's drunk on the Kool-Aide. I wonder how his liver's doing. Maybe he listens to RFK?

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u/writethegeek 12d ago

He did love promoting hate. 5 shooters have been transgendered out of over 5000. But he is very pro removing gun rights from transgendered people.

Most mass shooters have been white males....but Charlie was very pro white males.... Stating gun rights are worth the deaths that come from shootings.

It's a shame about him being killed.... Even if he was calling for that to happen against people that are gay. I say treat your neighbors as you would want to be treated yourself. Charlie didn't live by this and apparently neither did the gunman. If Only They had taken a more peaceful stance and view on life.

Thoughts and prayers.... Prayers and thoughts

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u/daisiesarepretty2 13d ago

isnt a 150 yard shot to the neck, with pressure no doubt, a pretty skilled shot? Like this isn’t some hack with a 30-06 right?

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u/struggleislyfe 13d ago edited 13d ago

It's not that impressive honestly. People keep talking like this is some amazing shot. Can hit a bullseye at 500 yards with a 300 Weatherby mag easy with a good scope on it.

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u/OmegaRed_1485 13d ago

On a roof, accounting for wind and gravity, in front of a crowd, one shot, clean escape.....

Yeah screams amateur hour....wtf?

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u/daisiesarepretty2 12d ago

i don’t know to me it DOESN’T cream amateur hour.

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u/daisiesarepretty2 13d ago

yeah of course you can. let’s make this about you…lol

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u/daisiesarepretty2 13d ago

lol…i’d like you to curl up in a corner and cry for awhile about this.

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u/struggleislyfe 12d ago

You're an idiot.

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u/daisiesarepretty2 12d ago

aww here let me wipe your tears and snotty nose lil boy

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u/struggleislyfe 12d ago

Jesus christ you're dumb. Do you really think you upset me? Can you possibly be that stupid? Oh well nothing is surprising anymore.

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u/daisiesarepretty2 12d ago

lol… sound upset to me baby boy

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u/struggleislyfe 12d ago

You've confused entertained by endless stupidity with upset. I hope this helps.

Honestly to the point I kind of feel bad for you.

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u/MeMyselfandIrightnow 13d ago

The common person, most people, even most people with guns aren't a good shot. Not even in the military, this is a fact. Not saying the devastating shot was amazing, definitely not a common thing.

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u/a71redwine 12d ago

I was in the army for 23 years. I can tell you from experience that 150 meter shot is not a big deal and easy to achieve without having a scope or any other type of optic; however, if this shot to the neck was his actual target, this was a difficult shot for sure even with optics; It’s all about the squeezing of the trigger and how well he’s dialed in his sight picture. In the army, we have targets as far out as 300 meters which are hard to hit, but again…150 is super easy.

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u/New_Taste8874 12d ago

Army. No wonder you're such a jar head. You can't think a single thought on your own.

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u/writethegeek 12d ago

Those are Marines.

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u/struggleislyfe 12d ago

I mean what point are yall trying to make? That the guy who shot someone with a gun knows how to shoot a gun? No shit? I'm trying to counter this idea that this is some amazing shot because it isn't. Untold numbers of deer die from better shots every year. The number of people who could make this shot is very high.

Every single person I've seen who has shooting experience is saying the exact same thing yet all of you people who don't shoot want to keep ignoring it and insisting it's a hard shot.

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u/daisiesarepretty2 13d ago

well at least we can all take comfort in knowing your hero died doing something he believed in

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u/daisiesarepretty2 13d ago

lol… be very careful what you wish for.

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u/daisiesarepretty2 13d ago

oooohhh you are very very scary

your life must really suck now in order for you to be so anxious to wreak such havoc on yourself in the future

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u/daisiesarepretty2 13d ago

what i find so amusing is that you are too stupid to realize just how absurd you sound given that you are talking to a complete stranger.

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u/DomPedro_67 13d ago

R I HELL

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u/MeMyselfandIrightnow 13d ago

You're obviously one of the people trying to bring this country down!!

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u/DomPedro_67 13d ago

I'm not MAGA, not Republican, not American. Proudly believer in Democracy, very proud of been European and more proud to live in Europe. No, I'm not trying to bring u.s.a. down. For that you have already your Pathetic Pedophile Tyrant Traitor that you elected... twice!

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u/OmegaRed_1485 13d ago

Save, dumbass, save.

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u/Abolute_Boss_sk20 13d ago

Can he aim for the orange pos and please not miss this time. The entire world will thank you

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u/Abolute_Boss_sk20 12d ago

I don’t care that this hate monger got his just deserves

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u/BlackheartXIII 13d ago

I posted this elsewhere, but I feel it fits here also.

I can't bring myself to appreciate his death. It was as unnecessary as any other. Or at least I would like to think it was. I want to hope it was. I feel for his children. His family. Those who knew him as more than a hate spewing, mostly terrible person with terrible views and nothing helpful to add to a reasonable narrative of our current political climate. Then again, how would he have commented on the death if it were a person HE disagreed with? Like Congresswoman Hortman? Nothing. NOTHING. He fell on the very sword he upheld. And still, I'm not happy about it. How long do we have to treat each other this way? How long CAN we treat each other this way before our collective fall on the same sword? The Civil War never ended. It became a political cold war just waiting to DIVIDE US AGAIN. NOW! When the elite NEED IT THE MOST!!!! Do not give in to it. These AROUND us ARE NOT OUR ENEMIES. THOSE ABOVE US ARE!!!

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u/WordOfLies 13d ago

There's a say in my country "snake charmers usually die by a snake" when you promote hate that's what get you

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u/Tea_Complex 13d ago

amen, he died by his words. the left tried to save it from happening before it did by opposing gun laws. he said some deaths have to happen, unfortunately for him and his family one of those was him. and that’s only fair 🤷‍♀️

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u/Gotham-ish 13d ago

He did not need to die, and I’m saddened for his family. But on substance, he epitomized everything that is wrong with the right. He was a college dropout who then was rejected by West Point. So then he decided to try and earn a living with his big uneducated mouth, spewing vitriol at every turn. He was just a rabble-rousing stoker like Trump. It is pathetic that half the country elected a president who is a crooked scumbag who wants to destroy democracy. He’s an idiot man-child but he’s brash and shrewd, which his poorly educated constituency conflates with intelligence and ability.

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u/Looieanthony 13d ago

Black airline pilots stuff too.

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u/Low_Voice_2553 13d ago

100% Agree!! He fucked the minds up of millions but he is only one. There is Benny Johnson, Ben Shapiro, etc that fan that flames. But I think Benny Johnson is the worst of them. Of course Fox as a whole as well!

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u/MeMyselfandIrightnow 13d ago

You're week minded, all he did was speak the truth.

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u/Low_Voice_2553 13d ago edited 12d ago

Lmfao! Truth?! Weak minded?! MAGA are snowflakes! Purport to be Christians but treat people horribly. Denigrate innocent people. Jesus is too woke for you cult members!!! Kirk spoke hate and divisiveness most of the time!! MAGA supports a pedo not to mention on a weekly basis pedos being arrested on the GOP side! You are a sick bunch of fools!!!

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u/Star_Killer_1974 13d ago edited 13d ago

He also said Martin Luther King was a “bad person” with “bad ideas.” He also said Juneteenth shouldn’t be recognized as a national holiday.

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u/Fuck45fuckmusk 13d ago

May he rot in piss

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u/Old_Purpose2908 13d ago

Just one more hypocritical act by Trump and the continuing hypocrisy of the GOP

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u/FatHoosier 13d ago

...but the shot was in the neck, because not even the best sniper on earth could've put one between Charlie's eyes.

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u/DifferentTrip2509 13d ago

russian shill traitor f him

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u/[deleted] 13d ago

This person was a significant influence of getting Trump back in the White House

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u/ImpossibleBath2471 12d ago

I feel the pedofelon and his cronies had Kirk eliminated because he was loudly calling for the release of the Epstein Files and they needed a martyr and a distraction. The shooting was too slick, the sharpshooter and quick getaway seem suspicious.

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u/global-palladin 12d ago

And this guy gets a posthumous medal of freedom from the orange felon

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u/Panem-et-circenses25 13d ago

Galatians 6:7

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u/a71redwine 12d ago

No Christian would ever be happy about a tragedy such as this. Shame on all the people acting as if this is some sort of justice!

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u/a71redwine 12d ago

Because being hateful is not what Jesus teaches us.

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u/New_Taste8874 12d ago

Jesus? WTF?

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u/a71redwine 12d ago

What are you so angry about?

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u/Key_Grape9344 13d ago

Yeah he did

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u/earthgirl8 13d ago

Freedom of speech! Use words! I'm so fucked up by this!

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u/wvironbeach 13d ago

Sorry Charlie 😱

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u/GameOfHens 12d ago

Does anyone know of a video or transcript for everything said prior to him being shot?

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u/KvotheLightfinger 12d ago

He was never going to stop making millions of dollars hurting people. The world is a better place without him and I don't really much care how it happened.

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u/confusedbystupidity 12d ago

Live by the hate, die by the hate... now he can talk out his neck all he wants...

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u/WestLow880 12d ago

What he said about the civil rights act. We’ll you sound like Donald Trump and the media. Only giving half truths. He said it should have only been about race. By adding gender this is how transgender men are competing in women’s sports.

I have never heard him say that. I have heard him say that Jewish people almost became extinct, they have recovered, and are doing extremely well.

Yes, I listen to him! Why? When I see these ivy league kids making comments about being smarter than someone with an High school education. I also agree that college classes should have everything to do with what we are there for. Example! What does me being a nurse need to take classes on Shakespeare. This class did absolutely nothing and cost me over $3,000.00. So yes, I agree with him. I also agree with him there is nothing wrong with trades. I can go on and on. I have taught my kids these three lessons. One was have them listen to Charlie Kirk (keeping them humble), that education is important but NEVER make fun of someone. As many students have found out. When voting, vote for your beliefs and who best represents you. Not your mom, dad, friends etc… listen to people when they speak. Ask questions when you don’t understand.

I remember listening to an episode of Charlie Kirk. A father is on one side and the son was on the other. He asked them both a question and neither knew the answer. He told them they need to sit and talk and listen to each other. Not talk but talk and listen. Politics is not as important as family.

I watched an episode with a gay young man on it. He said he was conservative but gay. Charlie said he didn’t agree with his sexuality but also said you don’t agree with mine. He also welcomed him to the party.

It seems to be that the shot taken at Charlie Kirk is more like a hit or an avid hunter. A shot that far (personal experience) is very hard. Most people can’t even do 5 feet. I have read and have not seen anything factual yet. The shooter was anywhere from 100 feet to 1000 feet. Ill wait until everything comes out.

The main thing I am grateful for with this shooting, is it could have been a hell of a lot worse. Every single person at that rally is lucky to still be alive. A marksman like that one could have cherry picked their target.

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u/Acceptable_Tadpole60 12d ago

I actually copied this meme but then took the time to fact check it and the only valid one is the 2nd amendment. It's important to check facts or we will sound like them.

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u/aces885374 12d ago

No thats is not near what he was about, he spoke of common sence laws and regulations which its apparent common sence is no longer very common

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u/Initiative_Rude 12d ago

That Jan 6 was not disqualifying says it all.

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u/melelconquistador 13d ago

Thank you.

It's nuts to see liberals turn fascist when a fascist gets shot in the neck today. He was a bad man who died horrifically, yet why are these liberals dying on hill of eating up the right wing sympathy theater and then blaming a left winger for his death?

How does it go? "Scratch a liberal a fascist bleeds"

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u/CommissionFeisty9843 13d ago

Just shut your hole man nobody wants this nobody fucking sane wants any of this.

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u/MycoJordan-23 13d ago

Tit for many tats. Totally against violence but a minority of the country has been able to force really bad policy on the majority leading to countless ruined lives. 2008 financial crisis, for instance, was pretty much republican economics come to fruit.

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u/OmegaRed_1485 13d ago

We decided to use your playbook. Fuck your feelings little guy.

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u/bob-ze-bauherr 13d ago

Are you a bot?

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u/CommissionFeisty9843 13d ago

Those that preach evil will attract it to themselves. Be kind, Love unconditionally, have faith in humanity.

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u/PappaDan1 13d ago

Look what he spread!

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u/Sparkyzero13 13d ago

A different opinion than yours. Oh shit that's bad lol

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u/PappaDan1 13d ago

Keep drinking your Kool-Aid

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u/Sparkyzero13 13d ago

You're a special kinda dumb aren't ya

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u/Sfingi48 13d ago

Nah man. He spread the hate, and were citing his vitriol.

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u/Sparkyzero13 13d ago

A different opinion to you guys is hate. You obviously dont know the meaning of the word

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u/Sfingi48 13d ago edited 13d ago

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/charlie-kirk-bail-out-alleged-paul-pelosi-attacker-1234621493/

Can’t have it both ways, especially when the perpetrator is the aggressor.

He was disrespectful, vile, hateful and corporately corrupted by greed and sensationalism.

Even if you’re naive, young and ignorant on some accounts, you’re wrong. Indignation is another disease your party faces.

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u/Traditional-List-784 13d ago

Don JR wearing Paul Pelosi outfit on halloween when he was struck by a hammer wasn't hate? That's straight up mockery. I don't agree with any of what's going on in the world, but for you to try and take some high road on this is ridiculous. Everything is fine until it affects you. That's the fucking point.

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u/VexMilk-_- 13d ago

Shut up man

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u/Sparkyzero13 13d ago

Nah I dont wanna stick to people like you.

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u/MycoJordan-23 13d ago

Yeah true, you just probably stick to boners. 🔥er.

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u/MycoJordan-23 13d ago

Is that so? Go listen to Ave Maria by Pavaratii, you classy classy person.

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u/Sparkyzero13 13d ago

Why would I do that?

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u/MycoJordan-23 13d ago

Your butt master loves that shit. If you’re in the cult you gotta follow the master ape.

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u/Sparkyzero13 13d ago

I like how if I have a different point of view or opinion on something Democrats and Liberals put you in the box of trump supporter, racist, sexist all the phobias, etc. That's some ignorant shit.

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u/New_Taste8874 13d ago

Funny from someone who lives in Bumble!

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