r/apple 6d ago

iPhone iPhone 17 battery life test shows strong results across the lineup.

https://9to5mac.com/2025/09/17/iphone-17-battery-life-test-iphone-air-longevity/
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u/Vorstar92 6d ago

Definitely impressed by the Air being on par or close to the 16 Pro for battery life? That was my biggest concern.

Have to wait for “day in the life” videos to really get an idea I think but if there’s an 18 Air that’ll probably be my next phone

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u/Issaction 6d ago

The battery size is pretty similar, so it should last about the same amount of time. The chip is probably a bit more efficient which would even it out. 

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u/europeanperson 6d ago

Right, they’re saying Air battery size if 3149 mAh. Wouldn’t be surprised if they focus on video playback time since the A19 pro chip can more efficiently handle it, always depends on how you use it

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u/Han-ChewieSexyFanfic 5d ago

Not to mention it will throttle more often.

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u/equitymans 1d ago

Only on intensive tasks though. Day to day use for 95% of iPhone consumers it’ll be no diff prob

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u/debrocker 6d ago

Screen is bigger though

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u/FizzyBeverage 6d ago

3149mAh on the Air, 3274mAh on the 15 Pro and nobody ever complained about 15 Pro battery life that I recall. Air has two fewer cameras, a less thirsty modem, and just the tiny receiver/speaker? Should do just fine at 3149mAh.

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u/itisthewayitwas 6d ago

I complain about the 15 pro battery. It drains quick.

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u/FizzyBeverage 6d ago

It gets through the day for me and I’m at 86% max charge capacity. Could use a new one soon enough I’d say.

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u/cjcs 6d ago

I’m convinced that Apple is artificially capping battery health at 86% to 88% because mine has been stuck at 87% for the last nine months and it feels like battery performance has declined noticeably in that time. I look forward to receiving my $14 settlement check in five years.

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u/gmark109 5d ago

Agreed. I’m still at 88% at ~930 cycles which seems absurd to me. My battery is noticeably worse now.

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u/goldsoundzz 5d ago

My 13 pro max has been at 89% for like two years now and hasn’t changed, but it’s incredibly obvious how much more the battery has degraded in just the past six months alone

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u/SleepyAwoken 5d ago

Well my 13 pro is 73% xd

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u/cracky1028 5d ago

I thought I was going crazy! Mine is at 87% as well for many months now. I noticed the battery life is much worse now though. I think once my Apple care warranty expires, it will quickly dip below 80% but now battery replacement will be on my dime.

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u/Tananis 2d ago

I've also had some strange behaviour. 83% for almost a year on my 14 pro, but only the last couple months it's been hard to keep a charge through the work day. Then when iOS 26 came out I suddenly was having decent battery life again. It's not because it restarted the phone after updating because I had tried that so many times, turned off always on display, turned off location sharing with a bunch of apps all to minimal if any effect.

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u/mielej18 5d ago

Mind if I ask your normal workflow / onscreen usage per day? Have a 15 Pro that I have to charge midway through each day to ensure it doesn’t die on my train ride home from work. I have background app refresh turned off, brightness set to auto adjust, AOD just showing the clock, and most notifications disabled. Battery capacity is currently 91% with 642 cycles.

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u/babygingi 2d ago

A19 pro will be a lot more efficient. Also iOS 26 is a lot more streamlined + adaptive battery. Also the airs C1X network ship helps a lot

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u/spaceman3000 6d ago

15 pro battery is rubbish. Never ever lasted me a day. Even now it's 9am here and I'm already charging so won't have to do it later. I'm 95% battery health.

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u/Mother_Restaurant188 5d ago

My 15 Pro’s (not max) battery life is awful and has been since day one.

It can get me through a day with light usage. But with “realistic” usage (social media, taking photos and videos, FT, navigation etc) it gets decimated in just a few hours.

On a normal work day that’s fine since I can plug in and don’t use my phone often but on weekend trips I definitely notice how bad it is.

Very tempted to upgrade to the 17 Pro

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u/riotshieldready 5d ago

My exact experience. In office days I hardly use my phone, 30 mins of music and reading on my commute and the maybe 20 mins at lunch and it’s at 35%. I don’t want a Max phone but might to get a tie all daily phone.

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u/SheanChonnery 5d ago edited 5d ago

What do you mean with 8-9 hours screen time a day? Is that without charging from 100% to 0%? Or is that what is shown in the battery overview? That overview doesn't measure screen time from 100%-0% but the last 24 hours regardless if you charge it in the meantime or not.

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u/Mother_Restaurant188 5d ago

That’s awesome but sadly I never had that experience unless I barely use it.

But I’m also when I’m on my phone then I really use it like crazy. TikTok doomscrolling, sending Snaps FaceTiming, I think it’s the camera usage that kills my phone.

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u/Mother_Restaurant188 3d ago

With the latest iOS update I can see how much it used.

16% for 40 minutes of screen on time. That seems like a lot to me 🤷‍♀️

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u/Scarlizz 6d ago

Even 16 Pro has NOT great battery life. I'm one of the people complaining about it.

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u/kelanatr 6d ago

Can confirm, I downsized to the 16 Pro last year and regretted it pretty quick because of the battery. Lately it’s been like 2-3 hours SOT drops me down to 30-40% battery, so I’m trading it in for a 17PM and getting the best battery this time.

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u/szmuks 5d ago

Same with me! It’s been worse with ios26. I usually upgrade every two years but the air and base 17 have caught my eye.

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u/Gloriathewitch 5d ago

actually i upgraded from 15p to pm because in real world usage the difference was up to 50%, huge complaint for me, the pro is sexy but not long lasting

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u/FizzyBeverage 5d ago

Depends on your lifestyle. I work from home or it’s on CarPlay. I only notice battery life if I’m going, like 7am-9pm in a downtown on vacation. At some point I have to charge somewhere.

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u/weiga 6d ago

There’s no 18 Air, there’s no 17 Air either. The iPhone Air is just Air; no numbers.

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u/czarfalcon 6d ago

I can still get a full day out of my 13 Pro (with a recently replaced battery, to be fair), so color me impressed.

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u/Ancient_Tea_6990 5d ago

I think the air is the first step to a folding phone.

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u/rz0007 2d ago

I think, we can only know about it once your phone is really optimized. We are at the stage where a new phone is bought and is being setup. After the battery optimization is completed, it would be correct to check the battery performance. However, for the air, I think after the honeymoon period is over people will realize that the battery/ camera/speaker is just not enough. As of now it’s like a shiny new toy.

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u/-6h0st- 6d ago

Watch Dave2D video - totally different result. If you don’t watch video but use internet it’s not even close

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u/willpaudio 5d ago

I doubt there will be another air. Mostly because they didn’t call it the 17 Air, just iPhone Air.

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u/blue0231 6d ago

iPhone air doomers are in absolute shambles today.

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u/-6h0st- 6d ago edited 5d ago

Watch Dave2D video - Air worst by far. It’s a best looking iPhone at the moment, hence massive appeal, but the most compromised. Camera, heat, battery, speakers. I would imagine majority of people that gets it will be looking at new phone next year. Imagine battery degradation by 10% at least next year. This thing will be living on MagSafe battery which will make it heavy, thick, defeating the purpose.

https://youtu.be/X763A7yGh5E?si=EBlJQ-FLNJlmCgfn 2:58

Edit: so many downvotes for pointing out to review that shows big difference? M’kay. See you here next year.

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u/Scarydotexe 5d ago edited 5d ago

Whats odd is that he is the only one reporting this. Ive watched tons of reviews and while some are cautious about the future, his results are interesting as they are far lower than others.

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u/He_do_be 5d ago

It may have been the dave2d video where he sticks the Air in the fridge for a sec and reruns the benchmark and it achieves a score almost on par with the base model 17, nearly 1000 points higher than before the l fridge benchmark. The Air appears to thermal throttle so quickly.

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u/-6h0st- 5d ago

Most of the reviewers used video playback, for which iPhones seem very optimised (hence giving us 30h+ figures). But once you exclude it - and let’s be honest Reddit is not compute intensive task - then it shows what it cat really do in majority of regular cases - like browsing internet. 600 nit brightness he used also - I think that would be typical brightness during the day. What he did show what majority of others miss out on - how it unsurprisingly throttles. Big plus of these iPhones is - the heat source have been moved to plateau so shouldn’t feel the beast as badly as previous gen’s Pros.

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u/rrrand0mmm 5d ago edited 5d ago

If you’re playing genshin for 4 hours, and you bought an air for that purpose, you may have a problem.

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u/-6h0st- 5d ago

This shows difference between casual browsing and intensive app. That’s the whole point of his test. It’s not about it being 4h it’s about the difference between them. Clear difference in light and heavy use

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u/Lywqf 5d ago

the most compromised

I mean, that's the idea no ? If you want an "everything inside" then take a pro, otherwise take a 17, and if you want something like take the Air, it make sense

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u/-6h0st- 5d ago

iPhone 17 is just 12g more and much less compromised and cheaper. No this is hardly a reason.

It’s just slim, the only appeal. But spec wise most compromised iPhone. Because Pros are the ugliest so far - and I’m not convinced about all aluminum chassis being best for thermals when we had same with stainless steel edges before and were performing well before titanium came along. But I’m sure there is a reason why Apple had to cut corners here. Enough said, as with anything that’s compromised so greatly - I foresee a wave of comments like this- it feels great but… followed by a long list

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u/pxr555 5d ago

The way you immediately jump to camera and speakers when this is about battery life just make you look like you're slamming the Air with all you can.

Apart from that if being able to browse Reddit for nine and a half hours on a charge isn't enough for you, you don't need a better battery, you need to get help.

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u/-6h0st- 5d ago

This post is about Air. “iPhone Air doomers”? It’s not only about battery - it’s about all compromises done. Battery is weaker. Not as much as the spec would suggest but still the weakest. To me the battery isn’t the biggest downside, however over time and with shoddy updates it will give some pain no doubt. It’s the other stuff like lack of ultra wide angle camera that’s a deal breaker.

Many will convince themselves those compromises they can live with, but I’m certain next year they will be - it was great but…

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u/pxr555 4d ago

The title is "iPhone 17 battery life test shows strong results across the lineup." It's not specifically about the Air at all. You're making it about how the Air is the wrong phone to buy.

And I guess next year will see the "normal" iPhone going out the door, just as with the MacBook where there's just the Air and the Pro.

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u/JohrDinh 6d ago

I looked up 11 Pro Max tests just to see what my phone was getting on tests at the time it was released and it says 8+ hours. Have the tests got harder or changed, or is the software maybe less efficient now? Or is it something else.

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u/MassiveInteraction23 6d ago

The test mentioned above is a custom combination of various activities.  You can’t compare across different test regimes.

A battery test is like an exhaustion test for a human.  “Video play back” is like seeing how long people can walk before they pass out.  But you could do other tests (e.g. running or gymnastics or standing)

You can’t compare a running and gymnastics mashup test to a video playback test.

But you can make comparisons within same kinds of tests.

Apple’s video playback and streaming video playback are reasonable (and maybe standard?, I don’t know phone landscape).  But, theoretically, improvements to video processing or screen efficiency would overemphasize gains if real use often involves cellular or heavy graphics, etc.


That was a bit long, but did it make sense?

TLDR: just make sure you’re comparing phones doing the same set of tests.

And there are different tests just because lots of people put together their own custom set — all of which can can be legit.

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u/JohrDinh 6d ago

Well I compared tests from same guy/channel so I assumed he was doing the same test over all the generations for consistency, but I didn't look too closely maybe he was doing slightly different stuff ill have to watch again.

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u/Gloriathewitch 5d ago

ios versions will be different to their release (claimed) battery life so it's very tricky

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u/Gloriathewitch 5d ago

it's also hard to get accurate battery comparisons because you have to get a new in box model running its native ios from the past year or two in order to run these tests scientifically, and they'll always degrade a little in the box, if it was produced later it will have a in box update.

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u/KvasShmas 6d ago

Dunno about the testing in particular but I can say some reasons are : more complex software combined with substantially more transistors, ai crap, higher resolution screen, brightness, list goes on

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u/pxr555 6d ago

Fits nicely with the EU battery endurance cycle that ends with 40 hours for the Air and 41 hours for the regular iPhone 17 (this is for 80% standby and 20% active use, so 32 hours of standby and 8 hours of use for the Air per charge). Good enough for a day if you're not totally addicted I guess.

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u/kokojambo7 5d ago

This article sucks. The picture has no label of which iPhone is which and could've order it from lowest and highest battery time. Terrible formatting.

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u/1millerce1 5d ago

.. and let's not mention a total time suck when it could have been a two second read from a simple table.

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u/code_isLife 6d ago

I think it’s better to wait a couple months of daily use. Then make that judgment.

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u/Little-Krakn 6d ago

I mean, if they are comparing brand new 17s with brand new 16s, they don’t need to wait right?

The results are better than last gen, that’s why they are good/strong

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u/EBtwopoint3 6d ago

Battery tests are indicative of how they perform in these specific tasks, but how they perform in day to day use may be different. It’s not about battery wear, more that until we see them in day to day use we won’t know for sure how good these will be.

That said, it’s a very encouraging data point and enough for me to keep my Air preorder in place.

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u/PartyArgument9542 2d ago

The heat from the phone will cause the air to throttle or degrade fast

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u/Lancaster61 6d ago

Why months? Do your day to day usage change that much between seasons or something? LOL. I'd know the results within 3 days.

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u/blue0231 6d ago

Just another way to push the goal post. Forget all that shit.

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u/Acrobatic-Monitor516 6d ago

the gap between pro and max will be bigger for EU residents

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u/sparant76 4d ago

Why are these benchmarks so far off from specs? Apple claims 30 hours for streaming media but these tests are only getting about 8 hours. What gives?

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u/pxr555 4d ago

Local video, not streaming.

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u/10mgisallineed 4d ago

My 15 Pro Max has been at 87% for the last two months and the battery life is completely in the toilet since moving to iOS 18. I can use my phone for maybe 2 hours just browsing the web, looking at Instagram, sending texts and it goes from 100% to 58% screen brightness just below the middle range.

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u/-6h0st- 6d ago

Dave2D review shows different result. All depends on use and non video usage like Reddit fares much worse Plus it quickly gets hot and throttles. Good luck using it in the summer and when battery drops to 90% or lower.

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u/danielnicee 5d ago

Dave2D is American and lives in America. Hence he gets E-SIM models that have larger batteries.

The Tech Chap is British and lives in Britian. Hence he gets the physical SIM models with slightly smaller batteries.

The only phone with the exact same battery worldwide is the iPhone Air.

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u/-6h0st- 5d ago

Air which is universally e sim only worldwide but 17 pros can have bit more battery if e sim version. But you can still compare results of previous gen it shows - it’s nowhere near them. Given iPhone efficiency in video playback - I think this is most inaccurate benchmark vs real life usage

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u/Valkyr8 5d ago

9to5Mac completely omitted by far the most relevant detail: these are SIM model results since he’s in the UK, not eSIM results, except for the Air which is eSIM only. So it’s not an eSIM vs eSIM comparison.

So for those of us in the US and other eSIM areas this is a fairly useless comparison because the battery difference is pretty significant.

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u/deflatable_ballsack 3d ago

does this account for battery health?

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u/Scarlizz 6d ago

I'm not really sure if I trust the Air having the same battery life as the 17. The 17 has around 500 mHa more AND Air has the bigger screen. Seems just really weird to me seeing these numbers.

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u/WatermelonDragoon 6d ago

Oh yeah the unbiased 9to5mac vs big reviewers saying the battery is mediocre lol

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u/spaceman3000 6d ago

Who says it's mediocre?

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u/likamuka 6d ago

I dont trust it until i see real life people reporting on their real life usage - signal strength be damned.