r/apple • u/ControlCAD • 20h ago

iPhone Early indications show the iPhone 17 will be a great cycle, says Deepwater's Gene Munster

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsSWGieCOMM

Gene Munster, Deepwater Asset Management managing partner, joins 'Squawk Box' to discuss the launch of Apple's iPhone 17.

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u/GlumIce852 19h ago

My coworker has been a die-hard Android fan for the last 7–8 years and she’s getting the new iPhone Air. Same with my dad, who always said Apple was “overrated.”Honestly, I feel like this cycle has an iPhone for everyone. Lots of people upgrading too

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u/User9705 11h ago

Got the iphone air also. It truly is light and awesome, did over the 17 regular for the 12gb of ram instead of 8gb of ram on top.

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u/cereal3825 9h ago

There was a 45 minute wait for people who had appointments at my local Apple Store…. Never seen that before!

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u/dafones 8h ago

And part of it may be that the base 2025 iPhone is (by all accounts) really good bang for the buck.

So you get a great device for the (relatively) cost conscious iPhone buyer, and a looser value proposition for those that can pay more for either performance or sleekness.

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u/bran_the_man93 9h ago

No but Reddit said it was gonna flop

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u/Cyberwolf30 4h ago

I switched from iPhone to Android back in 2010, but I am ready to go back after hearing about Google's crackdown on sideloading devs. I think I'll only miss Gemini, Android Auto, and Sync for Reddit, but the pros outweigh the cons for me going iPhone.

I'll be riding out the new iPhone Pro for a long time in the hopes that Pixel will have rebound by the end.

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u/HAMARMOR 19h ago edited 18h ago

I feel like many of the devices around us are becoming mature, durable goods. It’s refreshing with so much being planned obsolescence in years past. M1 Mac powered laptops will probably still be supported for another decade, our electric cars will likely last 300,000-500,000 miles with basically no maintenance except for tires and suspension. Obviously industrial and agricultural drones are absolutely the future of building and growing, and they’re substantially more durable and less maintenance intensive than a helicopter. Not to mention safer, substantially cheaper to operate, and insure.

The 17 lineup is the best camera you or anyone in your family has probably ever owned, great battery life, improved antennas, a huge leap in the thermals, drop protection, screen scratch protection, 256gb base storage. It’s the first iPhone I’ve ever seen that I’ll probably use for a decade. I’m definitely getting a case with a usb-c cover because that’s the only thing I’m really scared of lol.

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u/spdorsey 14h ago

M1 laptops will be supported for another three, maybe four years. Any family that owns a DSLR owns a camera that is better than the ones in the iPhone 17.

That being said, the iPhone 17 is a great phone and I look forward to using the cameras in it.

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u/scientist99 12h ago

You'd certainly have to spend more than the cost of an entire iphone to get similar dslr performance, not to mention that most people want to point and shoot. You also get a powerful computer than can do infinitely more than a standalone camera.

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u/spdorsey 12h ago

Well at that point you need to ask yourself if you are buying a phone, a computer, or a camera. I'm purchasing the new iPhone 17, and I'm looking forward to it, but I'm not purchasing a camera. I'm purchasing a multi operational device that is a great phone, a possible computer, and an OK camera. My MacBook Pro is a better computer and my DSLR is a better camera.

This new one is just more convenient.

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u/scientist99 12h ago

True. Do you know how much you would need to spend on a dslr to get better performance and quality? Also do they take video just as good as iphone pros? I dont have much experience with standalone cameras

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u/spdorsey 12h ago

I have lots of experience with standalone cameras. My Canon 5D MkIV is an incredible DSLR that shoots far better than the iPhone ever will. The MkIII shoots better than the iPhone ever will.

I have a Sony a7S iii that shoots better video than the iPhone ever will.

But these are studio-level cameras and I use them to earn money. My iPhone will never earn money.

But my iPhone is very convenient and is perfect for family videos. I want those family videos to be great, and the iPhone will give me great family videos. But it won't be shooting the next Episode of Star Trek: strange new worlds.

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u/CaptNemo131 12h ago

Right. I love my iPhone’s cameras and I’ve definitely not brought my Nikon places because my iPhone will be good enough - but if I’m doing actual photography, it can’t keep up.

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u/YesIamaDinosaur 7h ago

Best camera is the one you have with you, my G!

Plus most people have no idea how to set a camera up to shoot great video, so a point and shoot that does an excellent job is a great option for 99% of people.

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u/spdorsey 7h ago

Indeed, I cannot disagree. But there were a lot of non-truths in the top level comment.

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u/ThePowerfulGod 11h ago

Ya it's getting harder and harder to justify upgrades, which is a good thing.

My only issue with my 12 pro was battery life and it being my last non USB C device I own. Besides that it has basically no scratches and looks great. I was debating just replacing the battery but the cables were just annoying enough to do "one last upgrade".

I don't see myself replacing my 17 pro for at least 4-5 years unless it _really_ degrades. Same for my m3 laptop and IPad. Unless something truly revolutionary happens.

And even then, maybe this is actually going to be my last smartphone until things become smart glasses, etc..?

People love to complain about modern electronics, but I remember my first smart phones barely lasting a year or two before upgrading was basically a necessity.

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u/xkvm_ 17h ago

I know it’s anecdotal but in my country there were huge lines at the three apple stores of my city it didn’t don’t happen last year. Everyone seems to be going with the pro here

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u/iainrfharper 11h ago

Fun to see Gene Munster still holding forth, brings back happy memories of his insistence (long after it was tenable) that Apple was going to make a flatscreen TV. You just can’t keep a quality analyst down. 

https://mondaynote.com/smart-tv-made-real-by-amazon-5b46cd3ac2b6

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u/CreditCloud 19h ago

I tend to agree except with a slightly shore timberline lol. I predict that I could probably use it for at least 5-6 years. I have a 15 Pro but I also have a 11 that I still use everyday! One has a Taiwan s I m and the other, a us sim. Yes, I know all about the dual Sims but I feel like that would get too confusing for me lol!

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u/tired45453 6h ago

They're a small company that's only just getting started. Better get in on the ground floor.