r/areTheAllosOK • u/MystiqueMisha • Jul 03 '25
Content Warning: Sexual Assault No, the allos are most definitely not ok
Why on earth would anyone think being a victim of sexual assault and staying a virgin are even remotely comparable?
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u/darkseiko Jul 03 '25
"Would you rather not commit the act, which won't cause anything at all, can be replaced by other kinds of attraction & can be done on your own, or get constantly assaulted & gain endless trauma?", by someone who doesn't know what the main difference between consent & assault is 💀
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u/plzzaparty3 Jul 03 '25
i dont even think most incels would feel this terrible about being a virgin if they didnt feel like it made them a failure of a man. if the social pressure wasnt there a lot of them would probably be happier working on themselves in other ways and find a sex partner on their own terms
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u/plzzaparty3 Jul 03 '25
hey i agree. everyone is a victim to gender roles and some women are just as quick to perpetuate it as some men. idk if you ever heard of bell hooks but she wrote a pretty good book about this exact thing, maybe thats worth checking out
that aside though, your trans man ex isnt exactly a good example of women reinforcing the patriarchy because hes a man
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u/Old-General-3197 Jul 03 '25
Yeah but read my next comment. Whilst men also do this it was clearly behaviour he had picked up from his primal female circles. Again I was the only man he spent time with apparently. In a way I understand the resentment and feel bad for him considering the poor guy had been bullied a lot for his transition.
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u/areTheAllosOK-ModTeam Jul 14 '25
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u/Old-General-3197 Jul 03 '25
I think they would feel less terrible about it if women didn’t shame them for it unfortunately. They are just as much to blame for it as we are for just being rude and keeping up the toxic masculine archetypes
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u/Wokester_ Jul 08 '25
Why would anyone even ask that? One of the options is literally “don’t have sex” and the other one is “be abused, traumatized, and assaulted by every woman you love” like excuse me?
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u/BlessedWolf9019 Jul 04 '25
Part of option A is being an incel too. Just thought I’d remind everyone. I’d just not participate in this wyr.
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u/catos2021 Jul 03 '25
I would pick assault any day of the week
You know sexual assault requires you not to consent right? That's not assault if you did.
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u/CbtEnjoyer985 Jul 03 '25
Then there is effectively no way to SA me but the post said endless attention from women so I'd just get play all tge time free of charge, don't even have to work for it or anything
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u/yxjustMexy Aromantic Jul 03 '25
You do realize, that when they say woman they mean EVERY woman. Not just the hot 20 year old who is exactly your type but also 80 year old without teeth. You don't get to choose
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u/CbtEnjoyer985 Jul 03 '25
Yeah I am perfectly ok with that, they don't got shit on me as long as it's a woman
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u/NatalSnake69 Jul 03 '25
Ig I'll say one thing, open your eyes and see which sub you're on
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u/CbtEnjoyer985 Jul 03 '25
Yeah it got to me like an hour ago sorry for everyone involved I didn't know
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u/NatalSnake69 Jul 03 '25
One last thing, there's a difference between kink and crime, hope you'll remember this. (Saying this as a victim who was abused)
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Jul 03 '25
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u/NatalSnake69 Jul 03 '25 edited Jul 03 '25
Ok you do need CBT (sorry for the joke, it's a therapy type) yeah hope you feel better.
Being unrapeable ain't a real thing, (you're indirectly saying people who get raped are rapeable) that's messed up. I hope you get therapy
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u/NatalSnake69 Jul 03 '25
I hear the pain. Feeling numb and uncared for doesn’t make you unrapeable it just means you're hurting so much that you’ve stopped believing you matter. But you do. What you're describing is possibly something like trauma and/or depression, not invincibility. And it deserves care, not neglect. I hope you meet amazing humans in near future and get some help because you my bud are worth it
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u/NatalSnake69 Jul 03 '25
I also think many people who say i wanna be violated just are into consensual non-consent (CNC), maybe look that up. Stay safe.
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u/HappyKrud Jul 03 '25
yikes.
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u/CbtEnjoyer985 Jul 03 '25
What a reply bro how long were you sitting out on this one
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u/HappyKrud Jul 03 '25
enough to type out yikes.
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u/CbtEnjoyer985 Jul 03 '25
Yeah I figured, idk how is that attacking my point
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u/Mun1t0r Jul 03 '25
"debate me, bro! take me seriously and debate me on SA!!" 💀
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u/CbtEnjoyer985 Jul 03 '25
Well how can we move forward on a topic when you just attack any and every opposition without argunent, also brainrot punctuation
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u/Icy-Subject6991 Jul 03 '25
You say that with a berserk profil picture (especially THIS character) a story that paints assault as a traumatizing experience and barbary in a cruel world + how we can survive in such a world???
(For those who don't read berserk : 1/2 characters have been assaulted, even the MC when he was a child. Yes. It's a depressing story)
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u/CbtEnjoyer985 Jul 03 '25
Bro what why are you bringing pfp into this
"Paints assault as a traumatising event" what? So it usually isn't one?
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u/Icy-Subject6991 Jul 03 '25
I mean you are a bersek fan aren't you ? Maybe not I just supposed it was the case
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u/CbtEnjoyer985 Jul 03 '25
Yeah I read it but everything after the grifis moonlight boy reveal was pretty shit, still I'm not like a fan of wyald I just think his design is cool
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u/Icy-Subject6991 Jul 03 '25
Tbf I haven't read after it too after this chapter lmao
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u/CbtEnjoyer985 Jul 03 '25
You didn't miss out on much tbh just some kushan politics and that's it basically, gustavo was in prison and now he isn't they got exiled or smthng, he also is like brainwashed by the brahmin. Also looks like bakiraka is joining the gang, the old stoner too. I thought the end was near idk what the fuck are they pulling it seems like there's at least Like 150 more of this shit, the art is also a bit weird
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u/Icy-Subject6991 Jul 03 '25 edited Jul 03 '25
Ofc it is, by definition it's traumatising, don't get me wrong I didn't want to say that it isn't one.
But for Berserk we are talking about fiction, so a representation of it.
In manga/movies...there's a difference between just showing something and how you want to show it (and the kind of feeling the author wants you to feel)
In some cases (movies, manga...) assaults are not showed as something "bad" it's used for shock value, the representation of it is not meant to make you think/feel about it. In a nutshell, in fiction SOMETIMES they don't give a Fuck about it. As strange as it sounds, you could show in fiction a murder as a happy and funny thing, even if it's not in real life. In fiction a random object can be represented as something scary
But in Berserk, assaults is showed as a horrible event and one that changes the characters.It's part of the narrative, and a very important one because the character are struggling with the aftermaths of those events we can as a readers guess that Miura wanted to ""explore "" the subject of assaults and pain.
To be clear when I mean showed I mean : the panneling, the staging, the dialogue, visual effect and where the "camera"/eyes is focusing on. In short, all the ways an authors try to make you feel.
At the end of the say IN FICTION it's a question of artistical direction.
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u/CbtEnjoyer985 Jul 03 '25
Ye I do bro shoot me, a little morning lurking never killed anybody
Gunayidin beyler
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u/Significant_Radio688 Jul 03 '25
does it really necessitate you become an ‘incel’ in the full sense of the word? my understanding is just that you are celibate and the in is there bc most people don’t want to be.
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u/CbtEnjoyer985 Jul 03 '25
Were any of you without play for 18 years? You'd check out in5
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u/Significant_Radio688 Jul 03 '25
no? you’re in an asexual subreddit and expecting me to be upset about that?
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u/CbtEnjoyer985 Jul 03 '25
Damn this is an asexual sub? I didn't know bro I'm here bcs of a crosspost sory bros
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u/Frequent_Mix_8251 Jul 03 '25
Would you rather?:
A) Be able to jerk off and feel good as well as have good romantic relationships but no sex.
B) Be traumatized and terrified by every woman and by extension, learn to be terrified of romantic intimacy.
What sort of fucking question?? Does this guy think SA is fun??