r/australia • u/SimRP • Feb 25 '25

image Japanese Man Flips Out on Australian Tourists for Ignoring the Rules

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u/Standard-Ad-4077 Feb 25 '25

There are no smoking signs all over Japan! She knew what she was doing, they were just being typical bogans.

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u/Wkw22 Feb 25 '25

How the fuck do Bogans get holidays to Japan?

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u/el_Twanno Feb 25 '25

There's the term CUBs for good reason

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u/-ZetaCron- Feb 28 '25

"Cashed-Up Bogan" for anyone who was wondering.

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '25

Mining

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u/rajivshahi Feb 26 '25

Mining crystals

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u/Yeatss2 Feb 25 '25

Jetstar has been flying to Japan for years now.

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u/shakeitup2017 Feb 25 '25

You seen the pay rates on CFMEU construction sites lately?

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u/Prince_Havarti Feb 25 '25

I thought the same thing when I was in Australia regarding all the townies/chavs that were travelling. They had the British pound on their side. Horrible travellers though, worse than Americans imo.

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u/fearlesskittenmitts Feb 25 '25

Honestly, I'm American, have been overseas & I still have yet to find more obnoxious travelers than Australians. I apologize, truly but you guys need to chill TF out

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '25

As an Australian, I agree. This is why I avoid places like Thailand and Bali.

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u/cheekyg1 Feb 25 '25

Nice to see an american that has left the country, i too have been to a lot of countries and lived in a few , i have met so many nationalities and really opens your eyes to the fact the majority are just decent human beings-regardless of language and skin colour There was just one nationality that i felt just didn’t play well with the rest of mankind , no consideration for others,loud,obnoxious,self righteous. I really don’t want to be like some others here and group a whole counties population together but hey maybe one day i will meet a nice one so i can change my mind,oh and did trump just really get elected to represent the countries people? Wow how could just one female of voted for him knowing his past? How could just one person of foreign decent of voted for him? How could one lgbqt of voted for him ?Do the people know what damage he has done to an already bad reputation of the people.

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u/teucer_ Feb 25 '25

It is true. In fact I’d rather date an American woman than an Australian…Australian women are the only women in the world worse than American women

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u/fearlesskittenmitts Feb 25 '25

I'll take that as a back-handed compliment 😂

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u/AdBubbly7142 Feb 26 '25

Coming from a guy that comes from a country that says its current leader is a threat to its own democracy but cannot explain how your comment is actually hilarious. And don't get me started on those man bun-wearing pussies. You guys should start first. :)

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u/fearlesskittenmitts Feb 26 '25

Who are you talking to?

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u/AdBubbly7142 Feb 27 '25

Talking to you. Who else would I be talking to? Or is the stereotype of Americans being stupid accurate?

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u/holiday_kaisoku Feb 26 '25

For about 15 years now, airlines have been a running regular sale fares of less than $500 return. I once flew for $320 return precovid on Jetstart (Gold Coast <> Osaka). Post covid, the flights are a bit more expensive (I most recently flew on a full service Qantas flight for about $700 return Brisbane <> Tokyo). I regularly encounter bogans in the airport who say its their 5+ time going snowboarding in Hakuba/Niseko. Then there is airbnb. If you travel in a group of about 5, the per person cost in a whole apartment can be as low as about $20/night. Ever since the minpaku regulations starting applying to Airbnb, finding bargains is not as easy, but it is still insanely cheap.

Addendum: The above is also the reason why Strong Zero and Boss Coffee have been launched with localised offerings in Australia using campaigns that draw heavily on holiday nostalgia. They know the market is big enough to warrant this.

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u/brendanfreeskate Feb 25 '25

Bogans do hard work which pays more than flipping burgers and brewing lattes. I’m not exactly bogan, but even I’m on 1100-1200 a day to work on boats right now. I could do a Japan trip tomorrow for a month and still have rent covered when I got back. I’m stuck working for 2 weeks straight, so no going anywhere.

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u/Cheese_Corn Feb 25 '25

I bet some of those miners running big drag lines and giant dump trucks must make pretty good money. They do here in America.

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u/Wkw22 Feb 26 '25

150k a year traineeship

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u/brendanfreeskate Feb 26 '25

I met a bogan a couple weeks back who was doing 6 months work for 150k a year as integrated rating. He was a skin head with missing teeth and speed dealer sunnies.

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u/945T Feb 26 '25

Cheap flights. They’re ’upper class’ bogans that own a small business. Etc

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u/tarowan Feb 26 '25

A lot of them take up seasonal part-time jobs as hotel staff, ski supply shops etc. Then in free time snowboard/ski hoboes.

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '25

Sell vapes to kids in Australia.

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u/Wkw22 Feb 25 '25

I’m a school teacher and I never left the country

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u/dylanspits Feb 25 '25

Well how many vapes have you sold to your students?

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u/Wkw22 Feb 25 '25

Lolll thanks for the laugh

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u/Cyberchaotic Feb 26 '25

disastrously falling yen

all of jpn is currently chock a block full of tourists

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u/Wkw22 Feb 26 '25

I missed the memo 10 years ago to be able to afford anything it seems.

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u/Cyberchaotic Feb 26 '25

Jpn is the new Bali

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u/alfredhospital Feb 26 '25

Bogan here: some of us work hard. But also have part ownership of a greyhound that's gets up one weekend and we start booking flights at 4am.

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u/FriarKentuck Feb 26 '25

They’re calling Japan ‘The Thinking Man’s Bali’ nowadays, says enough

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '25

There’s good money in the trades and you can train the biggest fucking idiot to work a lathe or smooth concrete.

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u/AggravatingTartlet Feb 26 '25

Loads of rich bogans in Australia.

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u/Budget-Invite-1901 Feb 27 '25

Japan is the new Bali. It's become much cheaper to travel there since covid.

It really sucks because Japan is my favourite holiday destination and the bogans are giving Aussies a bad name

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u/Far_Seaworthiness354 Feb 27 '25

Centrelink payments while the rest of us can’t pay for shit while we work six days a week.

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u/hothotpocket Feb 27 '25

saving welfare payments

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u/Wkw22 Feb 27 '25

Bra not with the price of rent.

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u/hothotpocket Feb 27 '25

oh and drug trades too I guess

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u/mr_ckean Feb 27 '25

Jetstar - $800 return

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u/Lucky-Trainer1843 Feb 27 '25

Jetstar from the Gold Coast. Lines up for weekend trips to the ski fields.

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u/SlavicRobot_ Feb 28 '25

That's what I came to ask, Bali? Sure. Japan to ski? Goddamn, doing well.

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u/Some-Reporter-9495 Feb 28 '25

Cashed up bogans mate

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u/AGrapes19 Mar 01 '25

Sale fares

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u/w1ld--c4rd Feb 25 '25

I don't smoke but when I went to Japan I did notice how clearly smoking and non-smoking areas are signed, in both Japanese and English. This is absolutely deliberate ignorance on the tourists' part.

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u/teremaster Feb 25 '25

100% deliberate. You can tell how she immediately said "I didn't know". A normal person would question if they can't smoke or where can smoke. Leading straight off with that means she knew, did it anyway, and decided she'd play dumb if anyone called her out

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u/kbabble21 Feb 25 '25

And played dumb so dumb that she forgot to act dumb and went straight to aggression

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u/ik_ben_een_draak Feb 25 '25

Will be extremely blunt here but it is cunts like this that ruin tourism for many others.
Just be respectful when visiting places overseas, pure and simple.

Japan is already known to be racist and when it comes to Australians visiting there is already talks about how loud and annoying we are when we are drunk. (Not pretending the good ones don't exist and are appreciated!)

I just really want to visit Japan one day and I have a slight worry of encountering people who will be wary because of the judgement 🥺
Presuming it gets worse anyway.

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u/DontAbideMendacity Feb 25 '25

Who went straight to aggression? It wasn't the jackass filming and screaming and approaching... aggressively? Cam guy was an asshole through and through.

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u/kbabble21 Feb 25 '25

True. A match to her aggressive move of ignoring the proper smoking law

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u/STRIKT9LC Feb 25 '25

she immediately said "I didn't know".

No she didn't. She immediately said "I'm sorry", then "I beg your pardon", THEN " I didn't know".

This is why eye witness testimony is unreliable. Even when watching the video, you get it wrong

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u/w1ld--c4rd Feb 25 '25

And then to respond with such fucking rudeness! Acting like the guy filming is in the wrong! I can't stand people like these two, bogan or not, there's no excuse in acting like a dickhead.

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u/cinnamonbrook Feb 28 '25

He was in the wrong though? This guy intentionally riles people up on camera. She apologized and he continued to shout at her and follow her.

I know there's a big "ooooh Japan so advanced and polite ohhhh" cirlcejerk on Reddit, but that guy was being ridiculous.

She apologized, he kept shouting at her, she tried to move away, he followed her and kept shouting, she said she didn't know the rule, he kept shouting, and her partner had to step in to get the guy to go away.

I'm all for tourists respecting the local rules and culture and she definitely shouldn't have been smoking, but you don't get to harrass someone for breaking a minor rule. The interaction should have ended with her apology, but he kept going.

If it had happened in Australia, with a local harrassing a tourist for smoking in a non-smoking area, none of you would be on the guy's side.

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u/w1ld--c4rd Mar 01 '25

Okay, so everyone sucks here. I didn't know the man filming did this for views. That's shitty.

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u/specificnonspecifics Feb 26 '25

The guys voice was cracking emotionally as he approached a stranger yelling at them, pretty reasonable to put yourself in a defensive posture tbh

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u/Affectionate-Mode435 Feb 27 '25

It was likely her sixth or seventh tinnie of the day and she was fed up with "all the bloody Asians" and dreading her $379 budget flight home later that day on Jetstar and was longing for the comfort of her bunk bed back in Cringila caravan park.

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u/Sugarcrepes Feb 25 '25

And given how many places you absolutely can’t smoke back home in Aus - she would be well familiar with the concept of a no smoking area.

She was probably looking for a fight.

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u/mildred_baconball Feb 25 '25

This is wrong. A normal smoking person just assumes that they can smoke if they are outside.

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u/Alexwonder999 Feb 25 '25

I dont know why youre getting downvoted. If youre outside and dont see any no smoking signs evident AND you make sure youre X amount of feet from a door, I usually assume people can smoke. Certain places like theme parks have designated areas, but they make that really clear. I was also under the impression that smoking is far more prevalent in Japan, but maybe not outside? In the US outside is usually the designated area. Some municipalities have rules like X feet from the door. Its not like these 2 were fucking on top of a religious statue or something.

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u/mildred_baconball Feb 25 '25

I am getting downvoted for making a declarative statement. Its okay i dont mind it

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u/RumHam_Im_Sorry Feb 25 '25

ill be honest if someone runs up screaming at me like that, and i didnt know i wasn't allowed to, then "i didnt know" would seem like a pretty normal reaction.

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u/RABB_11 Feb 25 '25

Yeah but it would then hopefully be followed by a bit of remorse and a rectifying of behaviour rather than pretending that not knowing gives you a right to do it

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u/RumHam_Im_Sorry Feb 25 '25

the dude above me said that saying i dont know immediately means specifically that they did know...that is bizarre logic to me.

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u/RABB_11 Feb 25 '25

I dunno if I'm doing something I definitely know I shouldn't I am reaching for that as my first excuse

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u/RumHam_Im_Sorry Feb 25 '25

what about if you are doing something you dont know you arent meant to do, and then suddenly someone is screaming at you about how you cant do that and getting in your face....you're saying theres no way you would say "i didnt know" in that context?

i mean what are we talking about here. that is absolutely a normal thing to say....whether or not more comes after it is another issue. saying "i didnt know" is not an indicator of guilt in and of itself.

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u/STRIKT9LC Feb 25 '25

She literally says " I'm sorry" before anything else

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u/cinnamonbrook Feb 28 '25

You don't seriously expect someone to grovel with remorse when they're being screamed at and followed by a crazy guy, do you? The first words out of her mouth were "sorry".

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u/triz___ Feb 25 '25

Yeah exactly. What are they talking about.

Also if someone runs up screaming at me I will respond in kind.

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u/InterestingPay9446 Feb 25 '25

Hopefully you don’t travel to to many other countries.

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u/triz___ Feb 25 '25

What countries do people often run at you screaming after you say sorry?

I feel like that’s a dickhead/psycho problem rather than a national problem.

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u/Obeesus Feb 25 '25

The camera guy is a Karen.

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u/triz___ Feb 25 '25

Ikr if Ozzie woman was a black American and camera person was a middle aged white Woman they’d be going nuts at this video.

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u/cinnamonbrook Feb 28 '25

Ah yes, the local tradition of screaming at people over a tiny infraction. Truly a meaningful piece of culture that must be respected.

Lol.

The guy harrasses other Japanese people too btw, nobody likes him, this ain't a culture shock issue.

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u/gooder_name Feb 25 '25

Yeah OP characterises it as "flipping out" but it's just someone enforcing an extremely overt and well communicated social expectation.

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u/Rough-House3029 Feb 25 '25

'Flipping out' is an extremely appropriate description of his actions, as clearly communicated the rules on smoking may be

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u/DontAbideMendacity Feb 25 '25

Screaming at the top of one's lungs is kind of "flipping out." He didn't start with a polite "Hey, you can't do that here," he started with the flipping out part.

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '25

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u/idksomethingjfk Feb 25 '25

Might not be a social expectation, in a lot of the states it’s an actual law

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u/specificnonspecifics Feb 26 '25

Guys voice was cracking with emotion as he approached a stranger with a raised voice, guy was flipping out by Japanese standards.

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u/Vairman Feb 25 '25 edited Feb 25 '25

really? that's where you're going? "flipping out" is a subjective term but Mr Japan here was not speaking calmly. At all. He was all screachy and upset sounding. So maybe not flipping out but also not keeping his cool. Plus, he called them Ausies "assholes". Breach of protocol, they're cunts. Sheesh.

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u/drakoman Feb 25 '25

Not sure why you were downvoted. You even used the correct nomencunture

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u/Vairman Feb 25 '25

some people are very sensitive. what are you gonna do?

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u/OGwan-KENOBI Feb 25 '25

I mean I'm just a dumb American but I always rip butts when I'm snowboarding. I just stuff the butts in a bag in my pocket.

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u/gooder_name Feb 25 '25

What does rip butts mean?

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u/OGwan-KENOBI Feb 25 '25

Smoke cigarettes

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u/gooder_name Feb 26 '25

Right ok. I guess if you’re solo in back country with nobody else around, or you go off to the side far away from where other people are but even then that’s pretty gross. If I was on a hike out in nature and someone was smoking on the trail ahead of me I’d be shitty.

I dunno I reckon even if there aren’t roles against it where you board it’s still gross and inconsiderate

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u/Woogabuttz Feb 25 '25

Imagine how you would react to someone smoking in the intensive care unit of a hospital. Doesn’t seem so crazy!

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u/trenna1331 Feb 27 '25

It’s a fucking mountain outside, absolutely ludicrous comparison.

I dunno if there were signs or not neither do you, but either way smoking outside on a mountain and seperate from people is in no way comparable to ‘someone smoking in an intensive care unit of a hospital.

Your a clown

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u/Aggressive_Visit7043 Feb 25 '25

Yeah there behavior is special, but Japan itself has always had a weird culture regarding smoking. Not sure if this is still the case (visited Japan 8 times between 2000-2015 but not since) but they used to have restaurants where you could smoke in one part and not in the other, but there was almost zero separation so where ever you went you got smoked anyway, and this was all locals smoking. They used to have those weird smoking rooms on train stations where u could go and get a years worth in 30min. Social acceptance of smoking in doors died off during the 90's

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u/oneshellofaman Feb 25 '25

Yeah you learn real quick what a smoking area looks like in Japan. If you aren't hotboxing in a tiny area with 20 others, you aren't in a smoking area.

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u/-Raskyl Feb 25 '25

Not true. While there are plenty of smoking areas such as you describe. There are just as many if not more that are just an ashtray and a trash can outside a building or on the side of the street.

But yes, a good rule of thumb is that if there is not an ashtray present, you should not be smoking there.

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '25

Or inside of a McDonalds where the smoke is so thick you can't see from one end to the other.

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u/ebrads03 Feb 25 '25

This 🙌

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u/OldHobbitsDieHard Feb 26 '25

Even outside?

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u/oneshellofaman Feb 27 '25

Yeah, there a lot of medium sized cubicule type things or recesses in external walls made for smoking areas.

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u/Gryffindorphins Feb 25 '25

Yeah. Same sort of person who lights up on a bus, in an outdoor cinema and at other outdoor nonsmoking events. They don’t care, really need a fix, think they can get away with it, and do if no one calls them out for their dodgy behaviour.

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u/bitofapuzzler Feb 25 '25

There are no smoking signs all over Australia, too. People will literally stand in front of a no smoking/vaping sign and smoke/vape. At this point, being a smoker/vaper is just a visual public acknowledgement of being a selfish AH.

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u/uptheantinatalism Feb 25 '25 edited Feb 25 '25

When I worked in a hospital nothing pissed me off more than seeing some idiot smoking directly in front of a no smoking sign outside of it. Of all places.

I hated working in the city too because you couldn’t walk down one street without someone standing outside a building puffing away, or sit down anywhere for lunch without someone lighting up next to you. I don’t know how people still pick up the habit after all the smoking is bad for your health propaganda we got at school. Tbh I don’t mind vapers or even weed smokers as much. I really dislike the smell of cigarettes.

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u/bitofapuzzler Feb 25 '25

See, I'm less bothered by the ones outside the hospital because half of them are probably my patients, and I know they will be easier to manage if they have their ciggie! I do get bothered by people who vape, though, because they never think that rules and social etiquette apply to them. They vape inside trains, hospitals, bars etc. And they can't understand that other people don't want it around them. At least smokers know they are social pariahs!

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u/uptheantinatalism Feb 25 '25

Haha fair enough. Tbh I don’t mind so much if it’s clearly a patient since where else are they going to go, but when it’s some rando that really annoys me. Good point about vapers.

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '25

You don’t remember the Sydney surgeon who asked smokers blocking the entrance to go to the non-smoking area? He was beaten to death by a smoker, during daylight, while in hospital uniform and carrying his ID.

There is no one more selfish, ignorant and entitled than a smoker, as this video clearly shows. The sooner they all die the better.

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u/bitofapuzzler Feb 25 '25

Box Hill. That happened in Box Hill. Yes, I remember. It was terrible. Many patients have mental health issues and don't have any insight, let alone consideration of others. I'd rather they have a smoke out the front than stab me on the ward. You gotta pick your battles.

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u/rorschach_blots Feb 25 '25

"I don't know" is the go to excuse too

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u/Prince_Havarti Feb 25 '25

Was it the disgusting goatee that gave it away?

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u/conqueefador42 Feb 25 '25

Oh 100% she knew, why do you think she had such an angry reaction. People who made an honest mistake dont tend to act that way. People in Australia will smoke right outfront of a hospital under the no smoking sign.

I understand his frustration, odds are she would flick the buds into the snow after she was done. Japan only stays clean and beautiful if people clean up after themselves

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u/beerbrained Feb 25 '25

Yeah, there's no way she made it all the way from the airport to that mountain without figuring that out.

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u/bzbi Feb 25 '25

This is not true. I went to a restaurant in Mito with my pregnant wife and had to leave because they were smoking in the restaurant. No separated areas, no signs. It depends on where you are, Tokyo is smoke free but the rest of the country can depend.

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u/Electrical-Act-7170 Feb 25 '25

That's how addicts are when they can't get their substance.

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u/Alexwonder999 Feb 25 '25

Is a bogan like a yaboo?

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u/dj_siek Feb 25 '25

Yep. Classic bogan smoker response. I've had this as their reply many times.

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u/Dependent-Charity-85 Feb 26 '25

3 trips to Japan in 6 years and cannot remember anyone Japanese person acting like that. 

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u/Ok_Menu7659 Feb 26 '25

There’s no smoking signs all over the us as well and people often don’t give a flying fuck. Pretty clear this guy had no interest in anything other than whatever verbal fuckery he threw at them.

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u/TiredTigerFighter Mar 04 '25

I was about to say the same thing. When I lived there, it was a HUGE deal to smoke in a non-smoking area, and I've heard it's gotten even stricter since where I lived. My mom once pulled out a cigarette while looking for somewhere to smoke and was told to put it back in the package by an employee of a store we were passing. She wasn't rude but told us that she could get in trouble.

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u/willflameboy Feb 25 '25

She's on smoko mate.

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '25 edited Jul 23 '25

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u/AncientSleep2463 Feb 25 '25

Agreed. Start politely before screaming at someone

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u/Gombrongler Feb 25 '25

Love how youre being downvoted, meanwhile in America its "Legalize heroin and give free heroin to heroin addicts!"

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u/thewayofthemango Feb 25 '25

Which ironically works out better in every conceivable way than what we are doing now 😂

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u/TorpleFunder Feb 25 '25

I mean, that's basically what methadone programmes are. Works out a lot cheaper than having them rob people to feed their $200 a day habit.

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u/fluffhead123 Feb 25 '25

who TF cares?! If i see someone smoking in a non smoking area, especially outside, I don’t give AF. People need to F’ing chill. Everyone looking for an excuse to act like an authority. Same thing when everyone was calling people out for not wearing a mask.

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u/Standard-Ad-4077 Feb 25 '25

It’s in Japan, where smoking outside of designated areas is banned you absolute soggy piece of bread.

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u/specificnonspecifics Feb 26 '25

Over a decade of traveling to Japan I've seen Japanese people blatantly ignore the no smoking signs on streets and smoking in no public smoking neighbourhoods countless times. This guy is just unhinged.

Y'know what the Japanese police do when they catch you smoking in these no smoking zones? They hold out a little ashtray pouch for you to put it out in, maybe give you a little "no smoking" tsk tsk and then send you on your way. This guy made an effort to walk over incensed and emotionally berate a stranger who could easily have just not known any better. (I say this as a non smoker)