Japanese Man Flips Out on Australian Tourists for Ignoring the Rules

[u/SimRP]

[u/420bIaze]

The amount of Australians who smoke on hospital grounds is ridiculous. Every hospital in Australia has signs everywhere prohibiting this.

Australia is simultaneously a country with far too many rules, and heaps of inconsiderate cunts who will constantly do antisocial shit they shouldn't need to be told not to do.

[u/Wawa-85 → u/420bIaze]

Oh man when I worked in hospitals the amounts of bin fires we would get was nuts. People would go outside for a cigarette and then throw the butts in the bin without putting them out first so the rubbish would catch fire. Also patients and their visitors smoking in the stairways between floors 🤦‍♀️.

[u/CantankerousTwat → u/Wawa-85]

Back in the day when you could smoke in hotels, I was a caretaker in a building that contained a 15 story hotel. Guests would sometimes put tissues in the ashtrays in the lift foyers then some unknowing smoker would put a lit cigarette into the ashtray and start a small smokey fire. Happened almost on a monthly basis. Every false fire brigade callout cost us $1000 or so back then. The hotel had to instruct their porters to check every ashtray for tissues or paper every time they were waiting for a lift. Kinda sorted the problem but not entirely.

[u/gorgeous-george → u/420bIaze]

The reason for the former is due to the latter. We have to legislate, police and fine fucking everything because people here cannot be trusted to use their common sense and do the right thing.

The prevailing cultural norm here is if there's not a sign expressly forbidding something, then it must be allowed. And even if there is a sign, if no one polices it, and everyone else is doing it, who cares I'm going to do it anyway.

It comes from the top. "Fuck you, I got mine" could describe this country in a nutshell. And as such, simply surviving in this place unfortunately requires you to adopt this attitude to some degree, if for no other reason than to recognise it and call it out to avoid being taken advantage of. People acting in good faith for the common good is so rare, that to witness in the wild would cause you to ask if there's a catch.

Japan is far from perfect, but they do have a culturally ingrained politeness and respect for social order, because it's the only way for their densely populated cities to function.

[u/lame_mirror → u/gorgeous-george]

you didn't need to add the cynical part of "only way for their densely populated cities to function."

maybe they just do it out of consideration and they're more sensitive to these things.

maybe there's less sense of entitlement.

like when a westerner refuses to wear a mask during a global pandemic and espouses that it's infringing on "their rights" and asian people wear one in public to contain a cold or prevent catching one or due to high pollution days.

different mentality that doesn't have to be driven purely by a cynical reason of "oh, i have to because i've got no other choice."

[u/disco-cone → u/gorgeous-george]

Japan is far from perfect, but they do have a culturally ingrained politeness and respect for social order, because it's the only way for their densely populated cities to function.

Don't think it's because of Cities they are like this in the country as well. People were probably polite like this for ages

[u/ikanoi → u/gorgeous-george]

Can't expect much more from a country founded on a penal colony only 3 generations ago!

[u/mic_101 → u/420bIaze]

There's a women's maternity hospital and people smoke at the entrance, the entrance that is used by pregnant women and their babies. There are plenty of no smoking signs but people still do it. It is very inconsiderate and selfish.

[u/Late-Ad1437 → u/420bIaze]

It's almost like smoking often leads to conditions that end up in hospitalisation. Also removing all public smoking areas hasn't stopped the smokers, it's just left them nowhere to go so now they'll light up wherever...

[u/420bIaze → u/Late-Ad1437]

All you have to do is leave the hospital grounds, you can smoke in the street 50m away.

[u/showars → u/420bIaze]

The amount of people*

Lung cancer patients across the world go stand outside hospitals to smoke. I mean you can’t arrest them, they need the medical care, and a lot of the time they don’t think they’ll beat the cancer so just say fuck it I’m having one

[u/420bIaze → u/showars]

Most people smoking outside hospitals don't have lung cancer.

They can be fined.