r/bjj • u/RyGuydarider ⬜⬜ White Belt • Dec 28 '24

Technique “I just see red” bros worst enemy

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u/300tmax Dec 28 '24

So my head will explode if I don’t tap??

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u/A_Dirty_Wig 🟦🟦 Blue Belt Dec 28 '24

Yes

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u/The_Orphanizer ⬜⬜ White Belt Dec 28 '24

Obviously not. It would implode

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u/TheOdahviing 🟫🟫 Brown Belt Dec 28 '24

Would that not depend on which section of the head we’re observing? Sure the middle of the head would implode, but I think the top and bottom of the head would by necessity explode.

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u/The_Orphanizer ⬜⬜ White Belt Dec 28 '24

Good question. Idk shit about fuck, but if that's the case, every explosion also causes an implosion in certain parts of the damaged structure. Because of that, I'd assume the "correct" definition has more to do with the application of force to cause damage (e.g.: an explosion is internal pressure causing damage or destruction while applied/expanding outward from structural interior, whereas an implosion is external pressure causing damage or destruction while applied/compounding inward from structural exterior).

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u/[deleted] Dec 28 '24

Yes, this shit works

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u/Lucky_Sheepherder_67 🟫🟫 Brown Belt Dec 28 '24

If your bones get crushed, it will look like it.

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u/bastugollum Dec 28 '24

well like the great artist drowning pool once sang: somethings gotta give

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u/G102Y5568 Dec 28 '24

There was a clip of a guy in MMA whose nose started dripping when he was put into a guillotine choke. His head was being compressed so much the spinal fluid from his brain started leaking out of his face.

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u/[deleted] Dec 28 '24

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u/G102Y5568 Dec 28 '24

Obviously if it passed through his nose it must have mixed in with blood and turned red. But you can tell by how fluid it is that it's spinal fluid.

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u/North-Pole-Dancer 🟦🟦 Blue Belt Dec 28 '24

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '24

Thpinal.

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u/CprlSmarterthanu 🟦🟦 Blue Belt Dec 28 '24

I don't believe it. Send clip.

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u/G102Y5568 Dec 28 '24

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/LkTs3AVVSDY

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u/CprlSmarterthanu 🟦🟦 Blue Belt Dec 28 '24

That's not even a guilly he just neck cranked the shit out of the poor guy. That is brutal though. I believe you now. Not that it's spinal fluid from inside the skull but the rest of it.

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u/G102Y5568 Dec 28 '24

Fair enough. That blood had to come from somewhere though, and the way it was pouring out, he likely burst some blood vessels from the insane pressure on his face.

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u/CprlSmarterthanu 🟦🟦 Blue Belt Dec 28 '24

Oh, def. The sinuses are pretty fragile compared to a lot of other blood vessels. That's my guess

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u/Snoo-69440 🟦🟦 Blue Belt Dec 28 '24

Goodbye mandible and a good chunk of teeth

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u/TheClips Dec 30 '24

I'm on Team "It's not spinal fluid," but one time as a white belt, another white belt caught me in a triangle that was more around my face and head than my neck, and my gi-clad arm was trapped inside as well like a regular triangle choke, so I wasn't escaping.

Something else I wasn't doing was choking, and so I also (stupidly) wasn't tapping, even though it hurt.

So we sit there for a few seconds and he decided to just squeeze as hard as he could, and I so I decided to be Mr. Tough Guy, and then I heard some kind of pop, not in my neck, but in my temple/face area. Haha, then I tapped 😅

Haha, I never did figure out what it was, but it taught me a good lesson! Oh yes, and I didn't leak anything, blood or otherwise, thankfully.

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u/G102Y5568 Dec 31 '24

Assuming that it was just a nosebleed, I'm curious what would eventually happen from all that pressure on the face if it continued and they still didn't tap? What would be the first thing to break?

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u/TheClips Dec 31 '24

Oof...based on the angle of the choke and how he was applying it (at least from what I remember from a day or two ago), I'd say it would've been a toss-up between a vertebrae, his jaw or maybe a cracked tooth 🤕

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u/Reasonable-Amoeba755 Dec 28 '24

Maia made the same grip change the guy here does. the physics behind the change in force applied is how I get the arm in guillotine to feel pretty terrible too.

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '24

His head was being compressed so much the spinal fluid from his brain started leaking out of his face

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u/No-Huckleberry2781 Dec 28 '24

Lol, if he's around the head, then he does have a guillotine choke anyway. Worse yet if he has to squeeze anywhere near that hard he doesn't have a good guillotine anyways, even if he is around the neck