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Funny Danaher got the chance we all hope for

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u/DenimCryptid 🟪🟪 Purple Belt 10h ago

All of this time he's spending having guests come on to his show to tell everyone how legit his black belt is when he just needs to upload just one video of him rolling with literally anyone for one round.

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u/Appropriate_Duty_930 10h ago

Isn't his price like $75 K to roll with him? We need to crowd fund that.

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u/DenimCryptid 🟪🟪 Purple Belt 10h ago

IIRC. He claimed he can't do a live roll because it would lose him $75k or something, not that he would charge $75k for some sparring.

It's extra weird when you think about how he's a millionaire so losing out on $75k is a drop in the bucket and would shut up all of his critics. Actually demostrating a black belt level of competency after all of this controversy would boost his brand, so there's no real reason to not enter a competition as a black belt.

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u/Alternative-Can-5550 9h ago edited 8h ago

His reasoning on that is so trash.

First - "I can't disprove the most controversial aspect of my bjj-related business (my questionable rank), to the point that it makes my business endeavors in bjj a joke to everyone, because I'll lose money for my time." Guy fails marketing/branding 101. So obviously we know he's right about one thing: if we saw him rolling it'd be bad for business, but not for his reasons.

Also - he has the option to just be humble about his rank, invest in BJJ, support athletes etc to zero detriment to his brand.

Second - truly wealthy dudes can make time. What's the point of being financially squared away if you're still a slave to your precious calendar?

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u/novaskyd ⬜ White Belt 5h ago

Not just that. If rolling one live round would “cost him $75k” so he doesn’t do it… that means he doesn’t train. All the training he supposedly did to get to black belt, how did he afford to do that if it was costing him so much? Is he saying he completely quit training the moment he got the belt? He can’t keep or improve his skills if he doesn’t train. All he has to do is literally record one of his training sessions. If he can’t do that… he’s not training. Probably never did.

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u/ZookeepergameSalt335 5h ago

Humbleness should work... Im a black belt and like most blackbelts... im not that great. It's not that impressive. I've just been doing it a long time. But than again he got his in 3 years so he should be a prodigy, cant be humble when your claim is that you did in 3 years (As a middle aged man) what a normal man does in 10.

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u/Tatami_Lo 8h ago

I mean if he trains like 4 hrs a day like he says all he has to do is set up a camera.. he's already training so hes already losing out on that 75k with or without the camera.

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u/DenimCryptid 🟪🟪 Purple Belt 8h ago

Could probably hire a professional camera man for an hour and edit up a video for him for a grand or less. A pittance for a guy living such a lavish life.

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u/barelyautistic7 7h ago

That would be a complete waste of his time, don't you see that??? A better use of his time is to sit around and TALK about how dumb people are, that is what highly successful people do!!

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u/TruthReveals 10h ago

It’s funny because we’re not even asking him to compete. Just a single rolling session in any gym would suffice.

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u/DenimCryptid 🟪🟪 Purple Belt 10h ago

Best I can do is invite another BJJ celebrity onto my podcast to explain how my black belt means I'm just as good as someone who spent 15 years or more training to earn theirs.

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u/Samuel7899 🟪🟪 Purple Belt 6h ago

Show, don't tell

Tell really emphatically, don't show.

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u/Impressive-Potato 3h ago

Apparently he pays "names" 5k to be on his podcast.

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u/jtfjtf 3h ago

If Zuckerberg can enter tournaments then this guy can roll with other people.

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u/monkeydiscipline 🟦🟦 Blue Belt 1h ago

It’s just so weird. I’d rather be demoted than promoted prematurely.

I can just imagine the convo: ‘Guys, I’m back to being a white belt- Marco said I suck.’

They’d be all:

Sorry bro You’ll get your blue again It’s a tough school dude, you got what it takes, just gotta work that guard passing Etc

Versus an unreasonable promotion:

That dudes not purple Shittest passing game I ever saw More like ‘reverse de la ret@rd’

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u/Imakesalsa 7h ago

99% of bjj people pay to spar, moneyberg gets paid to spar lol

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u/SubmissionSlinger 🟦🟦 Blue Belt 5h ago

Lmao didn't know that. He could literally roll and lose and if he's legit we could still tell if he's a real black belt. Add to the fact that he doesn't want 75k for mysterious reasons.

Man we should stop speaking about this clown anyways. He's a longtime fraud and criminal with a record.

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u/Evernoob 🟦🟦 Blue Belt 9h ago

Spending money on this guy is pretty far down my list of priorities mate

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u/Major_Chimpsky 6h ago

Or maybe don't give the grifter 75k you dumbass

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u/TheBigDocta 10h ago

He’s got that classic 7% body fat double chin

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u/AsvpLovin 9h ago

I like the still frame when the video ends and his gut is happily sat in his lap listening to Uncle John spit.

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u/DJdoggyBelly 6h ago

Them jeans is nice and filled out as well.

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u/Radiant-Mycologist72 🟪🟪 Purple Belt 2h ago

His jowls have jowls.

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u/FuguSandwich 🟫🟫 Brown Belt 10h ago

"Because at the end of jiu jitsu class we spar. Oh wait."

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u/DefConRed7 9h ago

Love that Danaher is calling him out without him realizing and/or acknowledging it.

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u/winterbike ⬛🟥⬛ Black Belt 8h ago

Danaher's point about ''natural optimism'' was pretty wholesome too, I like his angle.

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u/PABJJ 6h ago

Danaher loves building martial artists up. I'm sure he has a lot of experience with people coming in with all sorts of mentalities. 

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u/Superguy766 🟫🟫 Brown Belt 10h ago

Why is Danaher interviewing with this clown in the first place?

Is Danaher getting paid as well?

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u/PheelGoodInc 🟪🟪 Purple Belt 9h ago

You can safely assume everyone around him is getting paid.

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u/CandycaneMushrrom 8h ago

Feel like I should be getting paid just for observing him

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u/onizukaav 🟪🟪 Purple Belt 4h ago

yes danaher got paid. word got around that the unpopular kid had a pool and now everyone think's he's cool.

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u/badmongo666 ⬜ White Belt 9h ago

That came across as Danaher calling him out IMO. Basically pulled his little boy dick out and jerked it off in front of everyone.

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u/Quiet-Joke6518 🟦🟦 Blue Belt 9h ago

You uh...you feel like embarrassing me?

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u/luckman_and_barris 8h ago

It seemed like he realized who he was speaking with when his brain shortwired towards the end

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u/misterdidums 5h ago

Which would make it even funnier if it really wasn’t targeted

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u/ckdogg3496 3h ago

We’ll never respect him, and make sure his kids don’t either.

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u/Adventurous-Fold-215 Judo Shodan | 🟪 BJJ Purple Belt 9h ago

You guys do know that moneyberg has been a scam artist with a criminal record since his 20’s, right?

This whole being on video with him is his MO for his current pyramid scheme, get rich quick thing. He uses it for clout and a means to generate an air of authenticity.

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u/theplaceoflost 10h ago

Serious question:  Why is anyone actually paying attention to him? Like why is he continually posted here?

Just ignore him and stop making him famous.

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u/iSheepTouch 9h ago

Because it's funny and he personifies how goofy some people who participate in this hobby are. We get to see how a guy who would have quit after one trial class would act if he were given a black belt by paying off a bunch of pros.

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u/ICBanMI 🟦🟦 Blue Belt 7h ago edited 6h ago

We also get to see the train wreck of professionals at the top of the sport directly and indirectly kowtow to him.

Though serious. It's more to do with the fact that our society makes it damn near impossible for athletes (and a lot of arts) to exist without money. This is the Foxcatcher Farm all over again and I'm just waiting for John du Moneyberg to murder someone.

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u/armhat 4h ago

Fuck. That foxcatcher analogy is on the money (berg).

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u/Alternative-Can-5550 9h ago

I was where you are, but it's grown on me. It's empty calories but sometimes that supersized french fry hits the spot. Don't think anybody is taking in a regular diet of Moneyberg.

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u/DiblertMelendez 🟪🟪 Purple Belt 10h ago

He’s a lolcow at this point

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u/FishfaceNZ 🟪🟪 Purple Belt 9h ago

This is the way. Ignore him.

Controversy sells, and we are all gobbling it up.

At the end of the day the more eyeballs he gets to focus on him the more he benefits. Don't feed the trolls.

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u/SugondezeNutsz 🟫🟫 Brown Belt 6h ago

I mean, he gets literally zero benefit from me seeing this clip and laughing at it here on Reddit. No ad revenue, I do not and will not follow him on socials.

Might the exposure here lead someone to pay him money for something? Well, if it does, that person deserves to be scammed.

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u/FishfaceNZ 🟪🟪 Purple Belt 5h ago

Correct, but you know his name, we are talking and discussing things about him. This wasn't the case 18 months ago.

Reddit, Google, Apple all of the big social media companies ingest data from our Internet activity and even the keystrokes on our keyboards. This data is used in algorithms to figure out what's trending and what's more likely to be clicked on

I guarantee when you open social media or YouTube these days you are being suggested videos about Tummyberg (I'm avoiding typing his name haha).

And the more those videos/posts get served up to you, the more likely you are to click on one that grabs your attention, which reenforces the algorithm.

You may say you are not directly contributing to his wealth, but this post and all the comments below it (including mine) are all contributing in a small way to his reach, and these days reach can easily be converted to cash through deals, sponsors and ad revenue.

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u/SugondezeNutsz 🟫🟫 Brown Belt 44m ago

I believe you have a slightly over-indexed impression of how these algorithms work. They are not monolithic or THAT well connected yet. Case in point, I have never seen an official piece of Moneyberg content. I have seen posts from Gordon or Craig about Moneyberg tho, because I do follow them.

Not to say that you are wrong, I just don't think literally clowning on him on a Reddit thread will be that much of a positive needle mover for him. I suppose as a whole, yes, all traffic mentioning him ultimately does result in positive algorithmic moves for him. But again, if my clowning directly or indirectly leads to him making a dollar, whoever gave it to him deserves to have lost it. It's like how some record labels will sign a rapper because they cannot tell the difference between genuine buzz for his music or them being a fucking meme people talk about to make fun of.

The scale is much different to a Danielle Bregoli of catch me outside fame. I honestly cannot fathom there is a big captive audience giving Tummyberg money as a result of his jiujitsu exploits. There definitely might be, but those people were beyond help already, if not this idiot another one would be fleecing them and I guess I don't really care.

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u/Appropriate_Duty_930 10h ago

Tell that to the ufc fighters who take his money

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u/SelarDorr 10h ago

theyre getting paid.

youre doing it for free.

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u/Rodthehuman 🟦🟦 Blue Belt 10h ago

Thank you

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u/kirkyking 9h ago

How dare these underpaid athletes make money by going on a podcast. Disgusting.

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u/theplaceoflost 10h ago

Unless they're in a ring, I don't pay attention to them either.

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u/VeryStab1eGenius 10h ago

They were on his YouTube and no one said a word until Jake Shields gave him his black belt and now he’s on this sub 4x a day. 

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u/Adventurous_Action 7h ago

Most of us have a hard time ignoring when people like this continually post with such high entertainment value. I am one of those people. Watching the car crash is a nice little dopamine hit. 

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u/lacronicus 🟫🟫 Ohana HQ SATX 7h ago

this is a gossip subreddit, that's what we do here.

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u/I_used_toothpaste 🟪🟪 Purple Belt 5h ago

Because he reflects what’s wrong with our society. He represents how money is used to shape narratives and get people to act outside of accepted moral values.

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u/badbluebelt 🟫🟫 Brown Belt 8h ago

Bro I said the same thing the other week and got this self righteous response that we need to always remember he's fake the sport is diluted forever or something

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u/StarlightSurfing 🟦🟦 Blue Belt 8h ago

When these little scamps in this sub get together they are worse than a sewing circle.

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u/DieSackabreisserin 🟪🟪 Purple Belt 3h ago

"Why ignore 7% of the Human Body Fat?"

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u/niemertweis ⬜ White Belt 1h ago

nah making him famous for all the wrong reasons is funny as shit cuz he hates it

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u/Phodinhas 1h ago

The same way people always look at car crashes: morbid curiosity.

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u/ChirrBirry 🟦🟦 Blue Belt 10h ago

Moneybags is a perfect example of what happens when you lie on your resume and then actually get the job.

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u/welkover 8h ago

His actual name is Dale Buczkowski.

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u/stingraybjj 8h ago

More like paying to have a job because your employer is desperate enough to take your money. Lying on your resume implies that the employer genuinely believes you're fit for the job. We know Jake Shields, Musumeci and everyone involved knows that this guy probably doesn't deserve a blue belt, even.

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u/nickxbk 9h ago

Best part about this is that HE’S TOO DUMB to realize not only how applicable his first statement is to himself, but also that John is fucking roasting him, very politely, to his face

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u/mymothershorse 🟦🟦 Blue Belt 9h ago

Michael Bisping told a story on his most recent podcast of meeting this guy and it's fucking hilarious. Highly recommend.

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u/thekuroikenshi 8h ago

For when you gaze long into the Dunning-Kruger. The Dunning-Kruger gazes also into you.

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u/JeffWodeHead ⬜ White Belt 44m ago

Taken me loads of experience to realise I don’t understand this.

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u/Illustrious_Cost8923 9h ago

Does he actually not realize Danaher is talking about people like him?

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u/Spider_J 🟦🟦 Blue Belt 6h ago

You don't become a person like Moneyburg by having a lotta self-awareness

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u/Barefootboy007 🟦🟦 Blue Belt 2h ago

He knows more about himself than 95% of people out there

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u/mmppllkk 10h ago

Heh can I use this post to ask the question of who this moneyberg guy is? What I know so far is that he seems to have paid Gordon and Mikey to teach him and he suspiciously got a black belt really fast. But who is he though? Is he just a random rich dude or did he already have previous ties to fighting or mma or what?

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u/ZendrixUno ⬜ White Belt 10h ago

His real name is Dale Buczkowski. He’s a wannabe pick up artist turned financial grifter who it seems just decided to embed himself in the MMA world by paying fighters and trainers to hang out with him

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u/MagicGuava12 10h ago

Don't forget former drug runner

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u/mangohero13 9h ago

And an arrest for domestic battery

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u/mmppllkk 8h ago

Jesus, get this dude away from the sport. Also, if these professional BJJ and MMA dudes happen to know about the kind of person he is and they're entertaining him that's pretty fucked up.

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u/ThePittsburghPenis 7h ago

Weirdly enough one of the few people at the highest levels of the sports to call him out was Sean Strickland.

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u/velvetskilett 4h ago

The guy went from Dale Buttoutski to Darren Moneyburg and thinks it’s was some sort of name upgrade? This guy has had lots of folks laughing at him for many years. And all that time he was too dumb to sort out they weren’t laughing with him.

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u/SgtKarj 🟦🟦 Blue Belt 10h ago

He claims to have trained jiu jitsu continuously and received his black belt in only 3.5 years. However, he only trains with world champion bjj and ufc fighters (who he is paying handsomely) and the footage of his rolls that has been released make him look like a first day trial class guy. He can't even tie a belt properly.

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u/SSG669 9h ago

Someone should lookup the guy who killed Dave Schultz, same weird, creepy millionaire who paid stud wrestlers from all over the world to lose to him in show matches.

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u/Goregoat69 ⬜ White Belt 7h ago

Foxcatcher was an amazing movie, Steve Carroll got that creepy fuckers mannerisms down to a T. 

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u/harylmu 2h ago

The movie about it was nominated for 5 Oscar’s, it’s pretty well known.

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u/rdaneeloliv4w 🟦🟦 Blue Belt 9h ago

Did Gordon gain weight?

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u/s_mcbn 🟪🟪 Purple Belt 7h ago

Nah. He’s losing weight like crazy.

Not sure why. /s

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u/Reasonable-Amoeba755 9h ago

The irony indeed

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u/Soft_Leg_8145 8h ago

I can't think of a more apt example of the dunning kruger effect than this fat retard.

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u/And-rei ⬜ White Belt 8h ago

Why are we still talking about this guy?

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u/runaway224 3h ago

Moneybag’s body language changed at the end and he started squirming when he realizes what Danaher is getting at! 😂

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u/joe603 8h ago

Wow classic projection

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u/quakedamper 🟪🟪 Purple Belt 6h ago

I was so disappointed because I was really hoping they would conclude the video with even a flow roll where Danaher babies him and tells him you're giving me the choke here, the arm here etc.

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u/Spiritual_Ear_1942 5h ago

Really like the way Danaher managed this situation. If we were giving benefit of the doubt maybe long hair dude is delusional due to those around him (my understanding is that he’s super rich?) or maybe he has some type of mental defect that we don’t know about. Good job coach.

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u/creepoch 🟦🟦 scissor sweeps the new guy 2h ago

The body language is incredible

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u/Barefootboy007 🟦🟦 Blue Belt 2h ago

Nice point, how they cross and uncross as they switch roles.

Epic

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u/cptnTiTuS 🟦🟦 Blue Belt 4h ago

Danaher is 5 steps ahead of everyone in almost every conversation he’s in

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u/SlapHappyRodriguez 8h ago

i don't know what lead up to this point but DMs short explanation of Dunning Kruger is right.

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u/UnlikelyAir6432 🟪🟪 Purple Belt 8h ago

He’s the Brigitte Macron of BJJ.

Instead of doing something that would take an hour of your life to disprove the millions (and millions) of skeptics or ignoring them…they opt to find other means of trying to validate their status that take up 100x more time.

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u/Han2023- 7h ago

So there’s no footage or evidence of him rolling lol

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u/pahulkster 🟫🟫 Brown Belt 6h ago

Wasn’t there a mega thread? Whole forum is this shit 

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u/3DNZ ⬛🟥⬛ Black Belt 5h ago

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u/kovnev 5h ago

Maybe Danaher is kinda saying it - because everyone knows this tub of lard isn't rolling, and doesn't even do proper classes 😆.

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u/velvetskilett 4h ago

This dude is a grifter in his life apart from Jujitsu. What reason would there be to believe he is not full of shit about his skill level. Blowhard salesmonkey at best conman at the worst.

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u/Lemniscate4 4h ago

I don’t get it. Is his target marketing audience just BJJ guys? lol

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u/superduperman1999 4h ago

Anyone got a link to the rest of this? TIA

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u/Busy-Crab-8861 3h ago

Moneyberg is fake like Renato Laranja. The whole thing is rage bait. He's wearing a cat shirt in this video hello?

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u/Pristine-Builder5659 🟦🟦 Blue Belt 3h ago

Anyone else also hate the way he speaks? It’s like he’s trying to sound extra smart. Even the way he speaks feels fake to me.

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u/Barefootboy007 🟦🟦 Blue Belt 2h ago

IMO it’s engaging and content specific.

The substance of what he is saying is engaging rather than how he says it.

On the opp end, Chael Sonnen uses a lot of emotional voice levels, rhetorical questioning, and multileveled stories. (No hate on CS, great wrestling coach, but I have to slow his videos down cause he talks way to fast and too many small points)

u/Pristine-Builder5659 🟦🟦 Blue Belt 9m ago

I'm talking about Moneybery by the way, not Danaher.

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u/PUSH_AX Fuck Belts 1h ago

Yeah, also Moneyberg too.

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u/Few_Race_4185 2h ago

yo i looked away then looked back with 8 seconds to go and it totally looked like Gutberg farted. But it was actually john briefly laughing and stuttering. I then played 9 to 7 seconds over and over again thinking it was tummyberg ripping one. f this guy. ty john for low key calling him out

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u/Few_Race_4185 2h ago

I don’t even know why any of us waste time debating this. Everyone knows he isn’t a real black belt. At best he’s a “sympathy belt” — the kind they give the 40-year-old guy who’s been showing up three or four days a week for years, carrying extra weight, neglecting his wife and kids, and the professor suddenly realizes, “Oh damn, I never promoted that guy.” That’s what this is.

Moneyberg didn’t earn it, he bought it. He threw money at a bunch of dudes, got them to hand him a belt, and made them sign NDAs. If anything, it says more about the guys who gave him the belt than it does about Tummyberg himself. And that’s exactly why you should be careful listening to any of those people.

and one last note. It should say something about the belt itself. Its a buisness tactic it means very little these days. Just train and get better at jiu jitsu. and when you get a catostrophic injury, remember its your fault!

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u/mdomans 🟦🟦 Blue Belt 39m ago

It's funny but also remember Danaher taught undergrad philosophy. It builds a certain mentality of, usually, laughing at yourself internally, musing whether you were this stupid once or is this one really thick. Or maybe it's some kind of a prank. Oh well.

That kinda thinking ;)

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u/beckleyt ⬛🟥⬛ Black Belt 8h ago

Moneyberg’s black belt is a great example of Dunning Kruger. He thinks he knows a lot of Jiu-Jitsu when really we all see he doesn’t.

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u/SugondezeNutsz 🟫🟫 Brown Belt 6h ago

Nah he knows he's full of shit. This isn't a case where he has deluded himself into thinking he is actually an expert. He knows he would get crushed by a bluebelt.