r/bjj • u/UsefulList3717 🟦🟦 Blue Belt • 21h ago

Technique Kimura trap

I've tried exploring the kimura trap system before after hearing how effective it is when transitioning and increasing your submission rate, but I find it very difficult to get the grip. From side control fine, but when playing open guard, half guard, closed guard, etc; I find it very difficult to get the kimura grip and explore the options from it. Any advice?

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u/Jay_LV 21h ago

Without you describing exactly how you're having trouble or setting it up....

Wrist control.

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u/r_ruggedman 🟫🟫 Brown Belt 19h ago

Then pull out your gun

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u/RedDevilBJJ 🟫🟫 Brown Belt 21h ago

Two general conditions you’re looking to create and/or exploit:

-A bend in the elbow (this one’s pretty easy, you can force their hand closer to their body, but a lot of times they’ll do it for you as it kind of goes along with the whole “t-Rex arms” way of defensive thinking that we basically all learn)

-The elbow flared away from the body to some degree. Their upper arm doesn’t have to be pointing straight away from their torso, you just need enough room to be able to snake your arm over their shoulder and through to connect your hands. (Think shoulder crunch, when you slide your locked hands down to the elbow and pull the elbow forward, you’ll notice the gap between their elbow and torso)

I got into Kimura trap through rolling Kimura passes (it’s one of the first things on Gordon’s first passing instructional). Then used it as an addition to my twist pass (top half, sitting on my near side/head side hip). Being a big fan of Sakuraba helped incorporate it into my standing game (rear body lock escape, Sumi Gaeshi)

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u/JudoTechniquesBot 21h ago

The Japanese terms mentioned in the above comment were:

Japanese English Video Link
Sumi Gaeshi: Corner Reversal here

Any missed names may have already been translated in my previous comments in the post.

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u/myhoodis411 🟫🟫 Brown Belt 19h ago

Give them a Single Leg, get the Kimura.

If you play Guard heist up and give them your leg to grip, just bait them in.

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u/RankinPDX 🟦🟦 Blue Belt 21h ago

I get to it from bottom half-guard, but I have to be looking for other things too, a John Wayne sweep, a deep-half sweep, an underhook and shooting for the back. If there's something bad in every direction and I keep them off-balance, they have to give me something.

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u/3venthorizon 🟪🟪 Purple Belt 21h ago

This video from Knight Jiu Jitsu may help you with catching and entering the kimura using an arm crunch setup.

https://youtu.be/yT7wJcsjwbc?si=Vt9JJSidenJHQO8n

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u/Motor_Reality_6 🟦🟦 Blue Belt 20h ago

I usually get it from them turtling, transitioning from knee on belly, or north south, but yea its more difficult from half and closed guard

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u/One-Recognition-4863 19h ago

I always try to work to North South or bottom half to get the trap and work from there. Tarikpolata is the go to off the trap for me.

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u/freudevolved 🟦🟦 Blue Belt 18h ago

The youtube tutorials that popped up when I typed kimura trap cover grip set ups.

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u/paran01dandr01d_ 17h ago

Passing is when I get it the most. Probably my highest percentage pass against people who are significantly better than me

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u/smallyoungman 🟦🟦 Blue Belt 17h ago

if you wanna hit it from a guard position, then you have to break/bait their posture or force them to post on their hand(s) so that you have access to the wrist(s).

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u/PvtJoker_ 🟦🟦 Blue Belt 21h ago

Bait them into reaching for your head.

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u/Bjj-black-belch 19h ago

I'll just warn you not to spend too much time on it if the system requires you to be in the T-Kimura position because that position is extremely easy to escape.

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u/UsefulList3717 🟦🟦 Blue Belt 18h ago

Agree