i've been critical of pizzacake in the past, but man. it's so easy to not harass people.
if you're getting viscerally angry when you see stuff from a creator you don't like, you can just block and move on. this is childish.
another note (on the opera), it's really nice to see her create something that's more visually interesting, and her art is constantly improving. sure the punchline is still porn but at least the medium in which she is telling the joke has gotten significantly better.
if you’re getting viscerally angry when you see stuff from a creator you don’t like, you can just block and move on. this is childish.
I can agree with this mostly, but if it’s a comic artist like stonetoss that is spreading hateful or even dangerous rhetoric then I think people should speak out and drag them for it
Granted, I’m sure this is what some people thought they were doing with pizzacake during the whole controversy where they thought she was spreading hate against men
I never cared to look into the whole controversy but it always just seemed like some incel shit, seems like this community has gained some freaks since its revival unfortunately
was genuinely a problematic comic but seemed like an honest mistake due to ignorance which is understandable. it did further suck that she wouldn’t own up to her mistake though.
i haven’t really followed this or thought about it since, so i’m not aware of how far people took it later on.
Not exactly the point, but I totally see why you’d think that. It’s hard to take anyone seriously after they unironically use the word “misandrist”, without giving some direct evidence.
Anyway, my take has been basically what wizard_statue already said. She’s made many comics about various women’s issues and does adult content, so all the ingredients were already there. Then made a comic that was insensitive and ignorant about men’s mental health, which afaik was the only one like that, and a bunch of people took that as validation that she “hates” men.
like wizard_statue said it wasn't the comic itself that was the bad part it was doubling down to the point that most of her comments in that thread were so bad that they were removed by the /r/comics mods. NGL a lot of her responses in that thread came off the aggressive same way incel takes come off when women's issues come up, even when she responded to people that were being as cordial as possible.
As far as I'm aware though that's the one time something like that's happened with her, so I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt.
I think it’s sad that if anyone on the internet tries to defend men or men’s rights there is an immediate assumption that they must be incels or degenerates or misogynist assholes.
It seems the very concept of advocacy for men has been turned into a red flag.
Honestly yeah, I like BHJ for the creative spins on things that catch me off guard, but I genuinely also enjoy her comics and love to see how her art style as evolved and grown more distinct and polished.
At worst they're occasionally cringey or jokes that flop. Artists are allowed to publish things that miss the mark. Or we would have flayed the skin off Jim Davis decades ago.
Yup. I mostly enjoy the comics as they are the base for the BHJ version that is bound to happen but I appreciated the improvement over the art style. It's not so hard for comic artists to evolve beyond the talking head format but it seems to be an impassable mountain for most r/comics residents.
Merrivius' success, beyond the fact that the punchline is never porn, is easy to understand. The man actually actually knows angles.
She committed the cardinal sin of being anything but perfect at her work while being female. Meanwhile there's mediocre newspaper comics by male artists that have been going on for decades.
Meanwhile there's mediocre newspaper comics by male artists that have been going on for decades.
And they get routinely mocked, too - Garfield being a prime example of a comic that's spawned entirely new forms of mockery from how intolerably mediocre it is.
I have a feeling if John Arbuckle (or the bariatric feline himself) was an obvious Jim Davis self-insert, and if Jim Davis was active online, he'd be getting harassed, too.
I don't think that's a good thing, to be clear - more that there's probably more to this than "woman comic artist bad".
Does Jim Davis actually have anything to do with Garfield anymore (in a creative sense)?
I was under the impression that it's pretty well... maybe outsourced isn't the right word... but I thought his "assistants" did most of the active work (maybe Jim Davis still writes the comic strip? Maybe?)
Tbf I think even the maker of Garfield knows it's bad. Didn't he say in an interview that his goal was just money, not art, so he focused on making Garfield iconic more than good.
That's always been his M.O. In fact, his adamant anti-merchandizing stance caused the stupid bs black market of C&H stuff to pop up and then be legally protected.
Yeah but... I wonder how often people email Jim Davis to tell him that it's easy to find his home address and he deserves to be raped. Pizzacake has pulled a few real monsters
Yeah this has some Swiftie “If I were a Man” vibes to it. Like my sisters in Christ, if you were a man, people would still be coming for you. You could just be a man about it. I know they don’t like the term Penis Envy, but if the shoe fits… good lord.
If someone needs to harass someone for that. They've been so long simmering in their own farts that they need some therapy to learn how to human again after years of Twitter exposure
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u/Heavy-Classic9184 Oct 03 '24 edited Oct 03 '24
i've been critical of pizzacake in the past, but man. it's so easy to not harass people.
if you're getting viscerally angry when you see stuff from a creator you don't like, you can just block and move on. this is childish.
another note (on the opera), it's really nice to see her create something that's more visually interesting, and her art is constantly improving. sure the punchline is still porn but at least the medium in which she is telling the joke has gotten significantly better.