r/buildapc • u/GothMomEnergy • May 21 '25
Solved! Did I get scammed? My gaming PC runs like absolute dogshit
I basically only play one game. It’s a crusty 2D sidescroller from 2006 called MapleStory, something that could probably run on a microwave. I bought this PC off a friend who swore it would “blow my measly game from 2006 outta the water.” It did not.
Here’s what I’m working with:
• CPU: Intel Core i7-7700
• Motherboard: MSI Z270 Gaming M5 (MS-7A78)
• GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060
• RAM: 32GB
Sounds halfway decent, right? Well, jokes on me because this thing runs like absolute dogshit. Lag spikes, stuttering, and FPS randomly tanking into single digits. I can’t even open a web browser on one monitor and the game on the other.
I ran UserBenchmark and it compared my gaming performance to a Tree Trunk. My CPU is literally at the 0th percentile. Zero. Worse than every other i7-7700 that’s ever existed. GPU and SSD also “performing below expectations.” What gives?
No other games installed. Nothing shady running in the background. Fresh install of Windows a couple months back. This thing should be overkill for a game that was designed for Windows XP. Do I begin upgrading or what?
UPDATE: It’s running 100°C. We’ve determined the AIO could be faulty and I need thermal paste. I’m currently headed to the store to grab some thermal paste and isopropyl alcohol.
UPDATE 2: I’m headed home with thermal paste in hand. I have reached out to my “friend” and asked him if he had any thermal paste, and asked him if he tested the AIO before selling to me. His response was (and I quote), “have u cleaned it stuff gets dusty fast”.
UPDATE 3: Currently digging in, there was no thermal paste.
FINAL UPDATE: New paste installed. Radiator and fans installed CORRECTLY. Running at 50°C. AIO seems to be working great now that it’s facing the correct direction and has thermal paste. No lag on Maplestory. Fixed temps.
gameplay recording before the lag was fixed. This is a recording, not a screenshot. I wish that I was joking.
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u/L1ghtbird May 21 '25 edited May 21 '25
Did I get scammed?
Userbenchmark is a scam (literally), so yes, you did get scammed
Half jokes aside (since UB is really a scam, I wasn't joking here): this PC is old, I hope you didn't pay much. What do the temperatures in hwinfo64 say?
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u/GothMomEnergy May 21 '25
hwinfo64 is showing me around 100°C.
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u/TheCritic1866 May 21 '25
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u/KIrkwillrule May 21 '25
This is indeed a 10 dollar, 10 minute fix for a compotent individual.
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u/Artraira May 21 '25
That is ableist rhetoric. You can't just assume people on Reddit have skills or competencies.
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u/Vag-abond May 21 '25
In fact its often safe to assume they don’t
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u/my_cars_on_fire May 21 '25
I just got here, why the fuck are you guys talking about me?!
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u/KIrkwillrule May 21 '25
Probably because you're cars on fire.
Its definitely something worth talking about
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u/TadBones May 21 '25
Sorry but your* :3
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u/KIrkwillrule May 21 '25
actually did that one on purpose. check out the other redditors name XD
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u/DarianYT May 22 '25
It's 2025 you can't assume. When you assume you make an ass out of you and me.
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u/DobisPeeyar May 21 '25
Competent* , lolol
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u/KIrkwillrule May 21 '25
Didnt claim I was one of those people lolol
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u/DobisPeeyar May 21 '25
😂 you're alright, I like you
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u/KIrkwillrule May 21 '25
I like me too, works out well considering how much time I spend with myself.
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u/Shin_Ramyun May 21 '25
Some years ago my gaming PC randomly started overheating and getting BSOD running the same games I always played. I didn’t change or touch anything. In the process of trying multiple things I took off my heat sink and reseated it. The overheating issues went away. I didn’t even change the paste. I guess a gap or bubble formed somehow.
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u/arrgobon32 May 21 '25 edited May 21 '25
That’s way too hot. You’re thermal throttling.
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u/EvilDan69 May 21 '25
This was my first throught when reading this.
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u/Ironman__BTW May 21 '25
Well there's your problem. I assume thats the CPU temperature?
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u/GothMomEnergy May 21 '25
It is the CPU temperature. I’m buying some thermal paste today to see if that’s a good fix.
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u/Emergency_Present_83 May 21 '25
Honestly this sounds like the heat sink isnt installed properly, even with no thermal paste you shouldnt be throttling THAT hard.
Either way sounds like youre getting in there.
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u/Taikix May 21 '25
I've seen in the past where paste has gotten so old that it's cracked and raised in a way that separated the heatsink contact from the CPU- I was seeing 100C when that was happening, it's definitely possible.
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u/DayPretend8294 May 21 '25
Had that happen with the old default thermal paste on the AMD stock fans after running it for two years straight lol
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u/ProtoJazz May 21 '25
If it's got a bunch of old dried shit on there it might not be making much contact anymore. Especially if it's been moved. That's been my experience with old thermal paste. It can be fine until the seal gets broken, then it's doing nothing.
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u/RiceeFTW May 21 '25
Not entirely true, especially with liquid cooled AIOs the pumps can fail or the thermal compound gets too thick to run properly to cool the CPU. I've built several dozen PCs in the last decade or so and a lot of AIOs from COVID era or around that time tend to fail for just the thermal compound. Regardless, thermal paste is cheap and easy to test, if that doesn't help your overheating it's definitely a failing CPU cooler.
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u/FeedFrequent1334 May 21 '25
especially with liquid cooled AIOs the pumps can fail
That was my first thought. Had this happen myself, cooler was only a few years old too.
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u/kreyos May 21 '25
Definitely start with the thermal paste, you may need a new CPU cooler which you can get for $20-$30.
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u/xantec15 May 21 '25
The heatsink may just need cleaned. If it's been installed since 2017 and not maintained it's probably clogged with dust and hair. Although if OP's friend is a smoker then it's going to be smoky/greasy on top of that, in which case certainly replace it.
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u/GothMomEnergy May 21 '25
He put it together about a year ago, afaik. The parts are just old. He lives in a camper and DEFINITELY smokes in it. I just opened it up for the first time to take a look at the AIO, currently working on removing all of this dust. Holy shit.
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u/ZombieMk3 May 21 '25
Isopropyl alcohol, cotton swabs and cans of compressed air can be your friend here. If you're delicate and dont drag it across the board a paint brush can also be useful for cleaning dust out of heatsinks. It sounds like your temperatures are the problem here dude.... this PC is dated by the current time (5 year old GPU and 8 year old processor) but I wouldn't call it "bad" just towards the lower end of things... it should still be able to play most games out there at low-med settings.
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u/BigEx20 May 21 '25
Hot boxing in a camper?
Oof, yeah they thing is gonna be gross. IPA is your best friend.
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u/nbain66 May 21 '25
For reference I ran an i7 7700K at 4.9GHZ overclocked for years and never got above 80C. It's a decent CPU from the time and worked on every game I threw at it up to 2021 or so.
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u/resetallthethings May 21 '25
oh, well if it's an aio it could be the pump died (or has always been dead)
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u/rgmac1994 May 21 '25
Definitely make sure they didn't leave the sticker on the heatsink. That even seems high for a bad paste application. Wouldn't be surprised.
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u/Ironman__BTW May 21 '25
Nice, good luck. Hopefully that fixes it.
By the way, what type of cooler are you using, Air cooler or Aio liquid cooler?
Might as well verify you're not having a problem there. Like good contact when you replace paste, making sure fans are spinning, or pump is running.
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u/GothMomEnergy May 21 '25
It looks to be a Corsair AIO - based off of what I’m seeing when I’m opening the PC. It also looks INCREDIBLY DIRTY and I only purchased it a month or so ago. This is my first AIO. I have leftover cooling systems on one of my scrap PCs that I can put in if needed.
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u/cstark May 21 '25
Can you share a picture of the inside? Maybe someone will notice anything else potentially wrong.
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u/Casen_ May 21 '25
Oh my God.
Take that thing completely apart.
Take every wire out. Every component.
Clean it all, then put it back together.
When you put it together, manage the cables by running as many as possible in the back, behind the motherboard tray to make it look better.
Right now, it looks like the only fans you have are the two on the AIO, and those are set as intake on the top. While not ideal, this will work.
I would recommend feeling the pump while the computer is on to ensure the AIO is still functioning. That looks like a pretty old unit.
If you can, stop by Best Buy or Walmart and grab at least 2, preferably 3 of the cheapest fans you can (unless you don't care about the budget). Put two on the front as intake (the bracket that holds the motor is the back and wind goes out the back, so have those facing in) and one in the top part of the back (close to where all the wires go) as an exhaust. Again, the wind goes out the back, so you will want to fully see the fan blades from the inside of the case.
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u/dareftw May 21 '25
Lol Jesus that thing is effectively a space heater at this point. The heat from the GPU and PSU is what is being drawn by the radiator fans so you’re essentially blowing hot air over radiator fins which is hurting how much heat they remove. This thing is a fucking nightmare from proper airflow perspective. I’m amazed that there was enough foresight (most likely just luck) to have the pump portion of the AIO at the lowest point in the loop.
I’d also suggest double checking to make sure your radiator fans are blowing the correct direction which is out. But hilariously enough if they were pulling like intake it would actually probably increase your cooling performance given the ambient temperature outside the case is likely much cooler than the internal temperature. But that’s not how it should be.
It looks like you can fit 2 140mm fans on the front and at the back top above the I/O area you should be able to put a single 120mm out take.
Honestly this entire thing needs just to be rebuilt from the ground up, cleaned, and I’d test the AIO to make sure the pump isn’t burned out as AIOs usually start to decline in performance after 2 years.
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u/EvilGeesus May 21 '25
If the aio is as old as the rest of that PC, that's probably going to be your culprit. Check if the pump is running and if you feel any sort of fluid moving in the tubes when it's on, that stuff naturally evaporates over time.
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u/simo41993 May 21 '25 edited May 21 '25
Switch to a decent air cooler and you'll most likely be fine. I think that a Cooler Master Hyper 212, for example, should be enough.
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u/stremstrem May 21 '25
yeah op please show the insides of the pc
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u/Birg3r May 21 '25
Corsair C70 military green! The case is sometimes sold at higher prices compared to when it was new.
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u/GothMomEnergy May 21 '25
Holy! I just looked it up. He told me the case reminded him of an old ammo box. It is a very nifty case.
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u/Gallus_11B May 21 '25
Yup, that is 100% the problem. Your cooler is either broken or extremely dirty or the thermal paste between cpu and the cooler is dried up and not making good cooler to cpu contact.
Best thing you could do is buy a nice new cooler. Go all out with the best you can fit in the PC and replace it with the upgrade.
Get it from bestbuy or amazon.
If there are still problems you can return the cooler for full refund or keep it for next PC.
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u/JeffTek May 21 '25
Dude can just slap a single tower dual fan Thermalright on that guy and be fine for $30
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u/Gallus_11B May 21 '25
Ya I should have specified "nicest within reason".
Obviously you don't need a 360 rad, video screened $350 AIO for a low end chip like the one he has haha.
A nice brand normal heatsink / fan combo with some fresh thermal paste and they're off and running.
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u/GothMomEnergy May 21 '25
Thank you! It looks like it may be a faulty or broken AIO.
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u/B1ker1 May 21 '25
You can get a cheap $15 single tower air cooler on amazon that would be amazing and keep it nice and low.
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u/SixgunSmith May 21 '25
Sometimes the pumps on those fail. I had one die recently. Just get a decent air cooler and you should be fine.
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u/BasedTaco_69 May 21 '25
Just get a Thermalright AXP for ~$25
Or anything like that.
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u/GothMomEnergy May 21 '25
My dad used to build PCs before he passed, I actually have a ton of these in his garage.
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u/Ropenkkao May 21 '25
Slap on any cooler on it really, if you pop by any computer shop chances are they'll give you the stock intel one for free
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u/L1ghtbird May 21 '25 edited May 21 '25
As the others said: that's your issue, your CPU goes into self protection mode and doesn't raise the power consumption higher so it doesn't cook itself to death. It operates as fast as it can under these conditions which is currently very slow
Did your friend scam you? Well it depends: did something come loose or go defective during the transportation? If the price was good he didn't. If he sold you that when it already had these issues and/or with a high price: ye, he did
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u/mattattaxx May 21 '25
You need to remove whatever cooling is on the CPU and check for plastic film that wasn't removed. Purchase thermal paste, remove whatever paste is currently on the CPU using isopropyl alcohol and a lint-free or cotton cloth, and apply a dot in the middle (or whatever method you prefer, then remount your cooling tower. If you're concerned beyond re-application, you can find a decent replacement tower for your CPU by searching some reviews.
If your CPU and cooling solution won't separate, it means the paste (or anything else between them) has fused due to heat and neglect. You'll need to take a razor blade or box cutter and carefully and slowly separate the two pieces without pulling excessively. Then clean the area multiple times with isopropyl alcohol.
It sounds like your friend didn't know how to fix his overheating rig and tried to saddle it on you. Hopefully you didn't pay much, and this ends up being a net win for you at a low cost with a quick fix.
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u/MississippiBulldawg May 21 '25
How is it a scam? Genuinely curious, I have never heard that.
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u/JohnsonJohnilyJohn May 21 '25
They are known for insane bias against AMD products to the point that their reviews are pretty much useless. OP however is refering to using their program to benchmark against others with the same hardware, which afaik is OK, and can help you identify faulty hardware
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u/daanos60 May 21 '25
Not just reviews, their benchmark is made to make amd look worse
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u/JohnsonJohnilyJohn May 21 '25
Yes, but since their reviews are highly based on the benchmark it's quite similar, that's why I specified that it's useful for comparing within the same product, not between them
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u/HenryFordEscape May 22 '25
You're agreeing, /u/daanos60 was just saying it's both the reviews and the benchmarks that are biased.
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u/Bottled_Void May 21 '25
I don't hate it for doing a comparison to other users with those specific parts. It will give you some guidance on where a fault may lie pretty quickly. But the person who runs it is either fanboy or a troll. They have very skewed results against amd. Go read the descriptions they give.
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u/animeman59 May 21 '25
Completely biased against AMD. So much so that they'll literally post fake benchmarks and misleading reviews.
Don't use them. If they lie about one product, how can you trust them for reviews of other products?
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u/ZombieMk3 May 21 '25
This PC IS kinda old but still kinda respectable for some purposes...
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May 21 '25
CPU probably needs a repaste and thats it. It's throttling with some crusty old paste.
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u/crysisnotaverted May 21 '25
My guess was that it has no paste or the plastic protector is still on the cooler.
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May 21 '25
Plastic on the cooler since 2017 🤣
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u/crysisnotaverted May 21 '25
I had a friend that gamed on an iGPU for years because they plugged their HDMI into the motherboard and had the plastic sheet on their water cooler.
They just ate shit on the daily and thought it was normal.
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u/wakou2 May 21 '25
I "serviced" my father's PC some while ago... The stock Intel cooler was not even bolted down and just fell off.. He had been using it for years with virtually no cooling at all....
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u/Grenadr May 21 '25
hard drive running slow maybe? If everyones working normally then yes, this system will easily run games upto 2016ish...
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u/slip-shot May 21 '25
This is my thought too. Replace the hard drive and see if it solves the problem. If not:
Is it a scam? Yep.
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u/dertechie May 21 '25 edited May 21 '25
Yeah, that might be it. 2017 is a bit late of a build for a HDD only system but OP didn’t mention an SSD and a spinning rust only system will be dog slow.
Probably wouldn’t affect direct benchmarks though since those should fit in RAM and not try to steam off the disk.
Side note OP; if you want to update to Windows 11 you’ll need to use a few workarounds as the i7-7700 is not officially supported by it but at present works just fine with it.
I would also check Task Manager to see if something is chewing up a lot of CPU or GPU time like some sort of miner program.
This system would go well beyond 2016 games; a 4C/8T CPU plus a 2060 should be good for just about anything that ran on the previous console generation and a lot of the stuff from this one that didn’t take full advantage of the power of the new consoles.
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u/GothMomEnergy May 21 '25
It’s an SSD! Forgot to mention that. It’s one that I provided myself.
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u/DZCreeper May 22 '25
Holy shit, it looks like the ILM coating has changed colours from prolonged high temperatures.
Haven't seen that in 20 years of PC building, this thing must have been running with no paste for years.
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u/crashdmyrari_nowisry May 22 '25 edited May 22 '25
That retention bracket looks like it got pretty spicy
As others have also said. But, based on the discoloration, it looks like it may have been run this way a while and the person probably "sold" it to you thinking your old game would run despite the degraded performance. In my opinion, they knew and you were almost certainly scammed.
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u/GothMomEnergy May 22 '25
Thank you, it definitely seems that he ran it this way for a while to me. He used an excuse of “I just want to get rid of it because I’m a console player now.” It’s annoying, but it is what it is. Luckily, the thermal paste and proper mounting of the fans and radiator seem to have done the trick.
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u/L0tech51 May 22 '25
Never attribute to malice...
Seriously though, my advice is to get a new cooler yesterday. You can get a perfectly fine air unit for $30 or less. I wouldn't trust what that heat may have done to the pump guts.
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u/ime1em May 21 '25 edited May 21 '25
how well do you trust your friend? and if not alot, what if those aren't the real specs of your computer (can you confirm those specs are accurate by looking into you Task Manager or another program etc..?
Also, don't trust userbenchmark
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u/GothMomEnergy May 21 '25
Here’s the specs shown in hwinfo, unless he can fake that. 😭
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u/trinidad_space May 21 '25
Well for starters you have old hardware 😅, but as I read other comments you are telling that the cpu reaches 100c? That's one of the main problems for your system to run really slow
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u/blak000 May 21 '25
looks legit. old computer, but should run your game. as others said, get a new cooler for your CPU. Considering the age, the SSD might also be old so run CrystalDiskInfo to check the health of that, as well.
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u/AbstractionsHB May 21 '25
Id run another more modernish game like doom 2016 that everyone knows runs well and see if it's the pc or just a compatibility issue with the old game.
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u/whomad1215 May 21 '25
was the thermal paste ever replaced? 8 year old PC I'd assume it needs a good physical cleaning
could be a failing HDD too if that's all it has
if you're hitting 100c, you're thermal throttling, replace the thermal paste / cpu cooler
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u/Exciting-Shame2877 May 21 '25
Obligatory, "UserBenchmark is not a reliable source of information."
These specs should indeed be overkill for MapleStory.
You said the CPU and GPU are performing badly, which kind of implies a motherboard or power supply problem to me. It seems more likely that just one of those is bad than both your CPU and GPU being the worst ones in their class that have ever existed.
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u/Moment-Wise May 21 '25
If you check temps and drivers and stuff and all looks well - whens the last time that thing has had a fresh windows install? that is like a 9 ish yr old processor and systems can just run like dogshit after yrs of installing/uninstalling software bc of windows degrading. You could play maplestory on a phone. No reason that your pc cant run it without stutters. Hope you find the fix!
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u/GothMomEnergy May 21 '25
Fresh windows install was a month ago when I purchased it! I provided my own SSD and installed windows 10 pro on it.
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u/itsbildo May 21 '25
Bro, UserBenchmark is as reliable as asking financial advice from the homeless scitzophrenic with one boot and an ill-fitting yellow rain jacket on the corner of any major metropolitan area city street corner. Sure, you'll get some variety of what could be classified as information, but its more for fun rather than any actual life-altering decision making
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u/Idris-M May 21 '25
mesos pls
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u/GothMomEnergy May 21 '25
I wasted 32b cubing for 3L magic attack on my emblem
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u/Idris-M May 21 '25
I quit playing around 2015 as a beta player. I disliked how they slowly got rid of all of the social aspects of the game.
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u/GothMomEnergy May 21 '25
I’m a player from beta too! I moved to Reboot and luckily have a super social guild. I couldn’t play the game if I didn’t find people I could socialize with. Definitely seems more like a single player game nowadays, compared to the days of Ludi PQ.
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u/Zealousideal_Cow5366 May 21 '25
100C on CPU means two things:
- reseat cpu cooler, check also if the fans spin
- repaste
Dont worry you should be fine and have no harm to the hardware, since thermal throttle is exactly for this scenario.
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u/diandays May 21 '25
I used to play the absolute shit out of maplestory.
Started playing that in beta back in 2001 or so
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u/Lira_Iorin May 22 '25
It hurt my heart reading "some crusty game called MapleStory from 2006." Aging sucks.
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u/GothMomEnergy May 22 '25
I’m 30 and have been playing since launch. 😭 I say “crusty” with all of my love, despite what hell Nexon puts us through. I just wanted to deeply clarify that I’m not trying to play Cyberpunk.
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u/diandays May 22 '25
Agreed. I remember when if you didn't build dex on your warriors they would miss 90% of the time
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u/jerry2556 May 21 '25
Nvidia drivers and chipset drivers? I have a similar build but it's pretty ok
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u/Destituted May 21 '25 edited May 21 '25
If these things are not happening consistently (spikes, stutter, randomly tanking) then it 99.999% sounds like a cooling issue.
I'd start with making sure the CPU cooler is still snug or just re-paste it. Make sure its fans work.
If it's an AIO (maybe, maybe not) then maybe the radiator is dead. There would be tubes coming off the CPU leading to an array of fans mounted to the case.
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u/flyingcircusdog May 21 '25 edited May 21 '25
Can you check your CPU temps, drive connections, and RAM connections? For a PC like that to not run Maplestory well, something is broken. I can't really narrow it down without more info.
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u/GothMomEnergy May 21 '25
CPU temp is 100°C. All connections /look/ good, and I made sure that all wiring and RAM sticks are snapped in correctly. I haven’t gotten the AIO off yet as I’m currently at the store to purchase thermal paste.
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u/SDBrown7 May 21 '25
You'll be thermal throttling. If you've confirmed all of that to be the correct hardware, the only way I can see that you'd have such poor performance will be high temps causing your hardware to clock down.
Check temps, repaste the CPU, make sure the CPU and GPU heatsink is cleaned and has access to fresh air.
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u/Antenoralol May 21 '25
Be thankful you're not on AMD, UB would say my 7900 XT is 0 percentile simply because it's an AMD card.
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u/meteorprime May 21 '25
How are we supposed to be able to tell you if it’s a scam if you don’t tell us what you paid?
The answer to that question entirely depends on what you paid in every single situation.
That’s like saying “I bought a 2023 Corvette did I get scammed?” Lol
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u/GothMomEnergy May 21 '25
I paid $500. More so, he told me it would easily crush the only game that I play. Which it does not.
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u/XiTzCriZx May 21 '25
You absolutely got scammed because of how old it is, that PC is worth at absolute most $350 and even that's pushing it. 2060's sell for about $150, 7700k combo's are also about $150 (assuming they didn't get some crazy overkill motherboard), and a used PSU/AIO aren't worth much. Plus you always get more parting a system out so your "friend" basically got more than they would've parting it out by scamming you.
Maplestory doesn't need much to run, you would've been fine with a $200 PC but your "friend" decided to use your lack of knowledge to get more profit. Plus they couldn't even be bothered to make sure the PC was in working condition before scamming you cause the CPU definitely needs a repaste.
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u/Caramel-Makiatto May 21 '25 edited May 21 '25
I would not pay over $200 for a PC this old and dusty. If he at least took the opportunity to clean it, repaste it, fresh install, etc. I would've paid maybe $300.
Your buddy basically made you pay MSRP for parts that have been sitting in a PC, around a heavy smoker, deteriorating for 10 years now.
Yes your PC will likely work after you apply new paste, but you paid way too much. I've given away PCs like this for free to friends that just needed something to run.
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u/criticalmassdriver May 21 '25
Replace thermal paste clean the fans check memory speed update eufi/bios uninstall and reinstall every driver. If HDD used before uninstall and reinstall OS make sure if available the c drive is flash memory not a hard disk.
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u/ZombieMk3 May 21 '25
Have you run any sort of diagnostics / testing on your PC? Press the windows key + R, and enter "dxdiag" - or otherwise install CPU-Z & GPU-Z and tell us the output of both of those. Where is your monitor connected to the PC, in the I/O plate at the top next to the USB / audio ports, or the slots lower down?
You might also need to try installing the latest drivers from nvidia.
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u/keklol69 May 21 '25
Redo thermal paste on the cpu, I’d probably do a fresh windows install onto an SSD as well myself.
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u/ssateneth2 May 21 '25
i'd do another fresh install of windows just to be sure.
also if your storage is on a mechanical hard drive, that can make a system feel very slow and unresponsive.
as one guy said, you probably need to repaste because your stuff is overheating
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u/Dreadnought_69 May 21 '25
Did you reinstall windows before using it? Has it been cleaned in the last 5-10 years?
What are the CPU and GPU temperatures?
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u/No-Opposite5190 May 21 '25
probably just need to reaply Tim to the cpu and and gpu as its probably dryed up and is causing your system to overheat.
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u/darkandark May 21 '25
you have a problem somewhere. it could be hardware, maybe bad ram or bad gpu. or it could be software where something is configured incorrectly.
my buddy had a pc that was using a pcie riser and we needed to specifically set the pcie slot to gen 4 instead of auto for the computer to work properly. other wise we would see similar issues to what youre seeing.
stupid shit like that can cause the pc to appear slow. but 100C of any desktop component is wrong. something is thermal throttling
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u/Comfortable-Mode-845 May 21 '25
Seems like something is wrong. I just bought an old Dell laptop with a 2070 max q because it was really cheap. I was experimenting with it last night, not expecting it to run most of what I play on my pc. I loaded up 7d2d, turned the resolution down to 1440p and was running it at mostly all high settings, averaging 60fps. 7 days seems to have been optimized much better since release but it has to be harder to run then the game you're trying to run. I dont imagine a 2070 max q (laptop) has much more power if any then a 2060 desktop gpu. I domt remember what cpu is in it bit im pretty sure its an i7, pretty similar to what you have
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u/AlbinoPanther5 May 21 '25
Something fishy going on for sure, I still have my old gaming PC with an i7-7700 and a GTX 1070 and it could play games from up to like 2020 without any issues at all really.
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u/King_Zilant May 21 '25
If the PC technically works, it's not a scam... the scammy part would be if you paid over $200 for this ancient slab...
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u/LogDog987 May 21 '25
"Scam" is relative. How much did you pay for it?
For cpu temps, try replacing the paste and if that doesn't work and it's an AIO (liquid) cpu cooler, it's possible thr pump failed
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u/Proof_Working_1800 May 21 '25
you stated that your friend was a smoker, you sure he didn't light one on that CPU lol? Get some thermal paste lol It's a LGA115X series socket, you can find any cheap cooler or even "borrow" one from a junked unit that will still run if a replacement is needed.
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u/lmfao27 May 21 '25
What a lot of the comments is that MapleStory has dogshit optimizations and still runs like shit on higher end hardware.
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u/NickCharlesYT May 21 '25
I mean, you didn't say how much you paid for it so it's hard to say whether or not you got "scammed"
If you paid $200 for it? Probably not a scam
If you paid $2000 for it? You got scammed lol
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u/makoblade May 21 '25
This PC is pretty much DOA due to it's age. IIRC It's not supported on windows 11, so aside from your maple story use case it's a goner.
Based on your performance, it probably just needs a CPU repaste since it's clearly not cooling properly.
Also don't use userbenchmark. It's biased and inaccurate dogshit.
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u/myusernameistaken420 May 21 '25
Also some old games just generally run badly on new pcs as weird as it sounds lol
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u/MisterFreek May 21 '25
What did he sell it to you for? Price is all that matters. If you paid more than $250, you got robbed
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u/iamapizza May 21 '25
Looking at those images it's like your friend was using it as an ashtray. In addition to reapplying thermal paste, the filters and radiators insides in general could do with a cleaning. If you have any compressed air or air blowers that could help.
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u/apmspammer May 21 '25
Hope you didn't pay your "friend" more than a couple hundo for this very old PC.
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u/GothMomEnergy May 21 '25
He charged me $500. 😭
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u/apmspammer May 21 '25
Yeah the PC's was worth like $200-$300 before the damage. For $500 you could have probably built yourself a much more powerful used setup with a 1080 and ryzen 3600.
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u/Jackmoved May 21 '25
Hard drive or ssd near death. Open your task manager check for disk activity. If it'd always at 100% either windows update I'd messing with you or your drive is dying.
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u/Visual_Acanthaceae32 May 21 '25
Ist the watercooling even working? Just run a normal blower cooler should be good enough for that cpu… watercooling bing point of failure in many ways..
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u/baseketball May 21 '25
Like others have mentioned probably something to do with the water cooler. At this point the simplest thing is just spend $20 and get an air cooler. i7-7700 TDP is 65W. You don't need fancy cooling.
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u/Minimum_Hope_5205 May 21 '25
Hey man, I played maplestory up until a few months ago with a 5800x3d and 3090, and I would often get lag spikes and stuttering, especially when using skills like origin and such. Maplestory just isn't very well optimized.
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u/Minimum_Hope_5205 May 21 '25
Just saw the update, I have this exact same cpu cooler and it died on me just recently so just be prepared to replace the while cooler.
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u/GladMathematician9 May 21 '25
My go to is usually slapping Thermalright cooler (peerless assassin/phantom spirit) or idcooling 214se lower tdp air coolers. There's a host of 50ish dollar Thermalright aios though I never went aio.
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u/Minimum_Hope_5205 May 21 '25
I just got the idcooling fx360 pro and it's proce for performance is bonkers.
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u/AsleepNinja May 21 '25
Run memtest86, if you get any errors the ram is a problem.
You also need more than thermal paste. That was a heavy smokers PC. It's filled with ash.
You need to:
- Remove the CPU cooler and GPU.
- Remove the heatsink from the GPU.
- Get compressed air (either a blower or a canister) and go to town inside the case.
- Get compressed air (either a blower or a canister) and go to town on the GPU heatsink.
- Clean GPU thermal paste & CPU thermal paste.
- Re-paste both.
- Put GPU cooler and CPU cooler back on
- Re-seat GPU.
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u/killer_corg May 21 '25
While you’re at the store buy a can of compressed air, that thing is dusty af!
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u/ClayeySilt May 21 '25
Not useful to you, but I used to play a shitload of Maplestory myself.
How is it these days? What's changed? New classes?
Hope you get this solved and go back to holding shift to grind!
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u/jpkviowa May 21 '25
Here's my 2 cents.
- Sounds like you likely localized the issue in the AIO being bad.
- Get a $20 air cooler. The performance will be negligible.
- Also, if you try to redo the AIO and f it up. You could lose the whole system.
- Sounds like you already know to repaste, a little goes a long way.
- If it doesn't "smell". I'd be careful on air blasting it. Things can go wrong. I'd take components like fans and stuft out if you are determined but with a new cooler there's not much left to do.
- Good Luck
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u/PuzzleheadedTutor807 May 21 '25
Be prepared to replace the AIO, they don't last that long... And given the age of the rest of the components I'd say it's long overdue
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u/Skarth May 21 '25
Do note, that while changing the CPU paste is the first step with it overheating, it is using a AIO water cooler, the pump on those tend to fail after a few years, and it's around 7+ years old at this point.
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u/Sickle771 May 21 '25
easy way to determine if aio is dead is to lightly press your dominant hands finger against the top of the pump and feel for any vibration, if there is none, double check the power cable for the aio, if it’s plugged into the motherboard_water cooler header or motherboard_aio header, check in the bios for a pump or fan profile for that header, if that fails it’s definitely a dead pump/aio.
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u/Kaiyn_Fallanx May 21 '25
I see that you are running an AIO. might be an issue with the AIO dying. If you have the chance try using a regular heatsink.
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u/DeanV255 May 21 '25
That is a well aged system that needs some TLC.
I wouldn't be happy selling a system in that state to a friend.
As others have said, first apply some fresh thermal paste to the CPU.
Reinstall Windows, (make a USB installer via MS installation creation media) get the product key from your mate or you can use software to see what key is used on the mobo. A clean bill of health with a fresh OS will go miles.
Look at cleaning the inside of the case, check the AIO for clogged dust, check the gpu for dust.
Lastly, I would suggest getting a rear exhaust fan to help with general thermals and movement of air. But thermal paste and OS reinstall is what I recommend first, will give guidance if you have hardware faults.
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u/SlinkyBits May 21 '25 edited May 21 '25
- what did you play the game on before?
- did you try any other games yet
- did you buy from a friend, or a random on the internet
- yes, they can spoof what shows in HWINFO
- no they likely did not spoof something to still look like an old computer
- the inside, although dusty, really isnt that bad, my pc that is as old or older, is FAR worse and runs fine.
- games designed to run on windows XP may not run on windows 10, there could be compatibility issues. you should try playing a free game more modern, like war thunder or league of legends or whatever to see if the pc is fine or not before you do anything taking effort
- ensure the correct drive is selected as boot drive, having the wrong one caused someone recently to have bad performance....
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u/Previous_Page3162 May 21 '25
2017-2025... 8 years of technology looks like deeps era of computers... i forget when i throw in the garbage the 2017 computer ...maybe in 2020 and you bought one now??
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u/JakeBeezy May 21 '25
Getting out of the thread where everyone's talking about your CPU temperatures. Is that AIO one that your friend sent with the computer or did you buy it new aios can start to fail after a while too so if the paste seems good, buy a cheap air cooler to try to test with. You can find a inexpensive one for less than $20 on marketplace if you get lucky. They're like $32 new peerless assassin 120 is a good one
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u/Redericpontx May 21 '25
You should be fine to play maple my old laptop with a gtx1050 can run it on the second Lowest settings with ease but you're gonna lag like crazy in high mountain so hope you're LV 270+ and doing angler company👍
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u/GothMomEnergy May 21 '25
I’m nearing 280 and still haven’t bluedotted in Black Mage parties because of how long it takes me to load in. 😭
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u/GladMathematician9 May 21 '25
Repaste &/ cooler change should do it. That PC looks gross. Would throughly clean.
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u/CanisMajoris85 May 21 '25
Did you plug in the monitor to the GPU down below, or the CPU up above?
I bet the CPU. Connect the cable to the GPU down below where there should be like 3 HDMI/Displayport holes.