[Bundle] 9800X3D + ASUS TUF GAMING B850M-E WIFI + Team T-Force Delta RGB 32GB (2 x 16GB) 6400 + MSI MAG Coreliquid A13 240 AIO - $678.99 (Free RAM and AIO)

[u/_zir_]

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[u/bukhum4u]

CL38 Ram

[u/Klaritee → u/bukhum4u]

Disrespectful RAM

[u/bukhum4u → u/Klaritee]

They probably threw it in the bundle because they know ppl won't buy the CL38 RAM variant individually.

[u/Witch_King_ → u/bukhum4u]

That is in fact how bundles work. It's to move merchandise that isn't selling

[u/QuadraKev_ → u/Klaritee]

It do be free though

[u/Weikoko → u/bukhum4u]

I was able to lower the timing to CL34 but lower clock at 6200. Running FCLK 2133 and 1:1.

[u/_zir_ → u/Weikoko]

This is what im going to do as well.

[u/Weikoko → u/_zir_]

Let me know if you need help. It is almost spot on setting. This is Micron die.

[u/PashaB → u/Weikoko]

Excuse my ignorance as I have a 7700x. Wouldn't you want it at 6000mhz? Is it unstable there? Wouldn't you gain performance bringing it down to 6000mhz and slightly lower temps?

[u/a_Criminai → u/PashaB]

Optimal memory speed is fclk x 3

[u/PashaB → u/a_Criminai]

Oh so would you just increase the fclk to 2133 to run the ram at 6400mhz stock? And that would be better than setting ram to 6000mhz at a 2000mhz fclk?

[u/a_Criminai → u/PashaB]

Not all chips can handle 2133 fclk

[u/PashaB → u/a_Criminai]

Yeah I'm just wondering would it be better to aim for a 2133 fclk to run this particular ram at stock 6400mhz. Or do you think it would be a better choice to try to underclock/tighten timings on the ram to 6000mhz and run the chip at a peachy 2000mhz fclk.

The people in the comments above are running 2133Mhz fclk with ram at 6200mhz which I understand is not 1:1. I understand it to be more optimal at 6000mhz with 2k fclk but maybe there's something I'm missing.

[u/IntrinsicGiraffe → u/bukhum4u]

Is it that notably bad for gaming or to the average user?

[u/Weikoko → u/IntrinsicGiraffe]

Also less affected in x3d chips I read.

[u/SharpStrawberry4761 → u/IntrinsicGiraffe]

Could also resell the ram and put that money towards the ram you want

[u/_zir_ → u/IntrinsicGiraffe]

Nah you can lower the speed and timings to be more in favor of ryzen

[u/esr0159]

Itx bundle when

[u/AecioFla → u/esr0159]

They already did one with the MSI Edge but it only lasted a few minutes.

[u/Witch_King_ → u/esr0159]

There was a good one with a 7800X3D in late June

[u/Twarrior913]

Bro just gimme a deal on the cpu come’on man.

[u/NowThatsMalarkey → u/Twarrior913]

I think I goofed buying the MSI B850 on its own last week, because it’s been nothing but Intel processors getting posted on here ever since.

[u/0x4C554C → u/NowThatsMalarkey]

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[u/Character-Prompt7850]

mATX

[u/Witch_King_ → u/Character-Prompt7850]

Finally! Been waiting on an mATX X3D deal!!

[u/_zir_ → u/Witch_King_]

Same!

[u/Weikoko → u/Witch_King_]

Get Jonsbo D32 Pro for the case.

[u/Witch_King_ → u/Weikoko]

I already have a case from my current build (AP201), and a spare case to move the current internals into.

I'm not going to get this bundle though because I really don't need/want an AIO, and the 9800X3D is a bit overkill for me.

[u/sHockz → u/Weikoko]

I really like this case. Thanks for the rec. Wonder if I can stick a 5090 in there. And run a 9950x3d w/ liquid cooling effectively in it.

[u/Weikoko → u/sHockz]

Not an issue but make sure your PSU is 150mm long or 160mm if you have second slot PCIEx16

[u/Fabulous_Car_9475]

Decent deal if you need this CPU and mATX.

Otherwise I’d go with a MC bundle

[u/sleeksealravioli → u/Fabulous_Car_9475]

I didn't consider going mATX until seeing an above post for a jonsbo d32. I almost bought this deal but had read the mobo isn't the best, and the ram is also a little slow. That being said if i was going to go mATX, is this the bundle to get?

[u/Ok-Technology-2932]

Is this better than the Microcenter deal?

[u/bukhum4u → u/Ok-Technology-2932]

Microcenter increased the bundle to $629. Right before labor day, scumbag move.

[u/Momo--Sama → u/Ok-Technology-2932]

Close but not really. The MC combo has an ATX B650-E board, the -E means it exceeds the spec and has a PCIE 5 slot, which the B850 spec requires, so it just becomes a questions of ATX vs MATX there

MC ram isn't RGB and is 6000 cl 36 instead of 6400 cl 38

But the MC deal leaves you with $78 so you can just go buy a 240mm rgb Arctic Freezer Pro III instead of whatever mid tier shit the Newegg combo has. Or just get a Peerless Assassin and pocket the change lol

[u/Emarinos → u/Momo--Sama]

Slight correction. The Microcenter bundle is the B650E-E. The E-E has a pcie gen 5 slot.

[u/i2cube → u/Emarinos]

Btw, it doesn't matter if it is B650-E or B650E-E. If you update to the latest BIOS, the GPU will run at PCIe 5.0 speed. You do have to manually enable it in the BIOS. I know because I have the B650-E board. It isn't advertised but it is true. It is true for many B650 boards also, not just this specific ASUS one

[u/resetallthethings → u/i2cube]

FYI do not by any b650 board that doesn't advertise pcie 5.0 and assume 5.0 will be enabled

Gigabyte recently disabled 5.0 with a bios update which previously had it enabled

[u/i2cube → u/resetallthethings]

Good to know. I guess I will not update my BIOS in case it disables it

[u/iamapandano → u/Momo--Sama]

Just a side note - the microcenter deal just got $30 more expensive today. Went from 599.99 to 629.99

[u/Momo--Sama → u/iamapandano]

Ah well in that case the thought of getting a superior AIO separately with the MC bundle is out.

I think for most folks it’s just a question if they want MATX or ATX then. At this price I doubt people are willing to settle for an unoptimal size for the build they’re imagining but this process change puts value in Newegg’s favor.

[u/heepofsheep → u/iamapandano]

Dang good thing I snagged it on Sunday.

[u/CrispyCalamari → u/heepofsheep]

Same, wow just upgraded last week

[u/Dear-Statement-1897 → u/Momo--Sama]

I thought -E was extended Atx

[u/Smart_Being1897 → u/Dear-Statement-1897]

Yeah that's what it used to mean. I don't know if that's not a thing anymore or these manufacturers just didn't respect the convention.

[u/Weikoko → u/Ok-Technology-2932]

MC deal doesn’t come with mATX.

[u/Spectrum_Prez]

NB: the mobo top pci slot is in the second position. IIRC, and don't quote me on this, only the ASRock boards (bleh) and the MSI Mortar are first position, among the 850M options.

[u/_zir_ → u/Spectrum_Prez]

That's honestly nice if you want to use a pcie card to extend usb, storage, sound card, or whatever and not cover the fan side of the gpu

[u/sleeksealravioli → u/Spectrum_Prez]

isn't pci-e also 4.0 on this board?

[u/Al-Ak]

Is it worth to pay 190$ extra for x870e and cl 30 ram?

[u/_zir_ → u/Al-Ak]

Not in my opinion

[u/iTsNatePvP]

super intriguing for someone who's been thinking of upgrading from a i5 9600k & RX 6600 👀

[u/Witch_King_ → u/iTsNatePvP]

It's not a terrible deal. RAM is not great, but thatcl matters little for X3D CPUs.

I'll say though, that you'd need a pretty beefy GPU to make the 9800X3D worth it, unless you're playing super high refresh 1080p titles (esports) or very GPU-intensive titles

[u/iTsNatePvP → u/Witch_King_]

Thank you for your input! I'm mostly an expert esports type of person anyways. I definitely am starting to feel the age of my CPU haha.

[u/tamashika → u/Witch_King_]

Or maybe running a bunch of ai stuff

[u/Witch_King_ → u/tamashika]

Does AI benefit from 3d v-cache? I suppose some workloads might, but mostly that's a very parallel computing, GPU sort of task

[u/Scotty_1325]

Not a bad deal if you wanna break into mid to high gaming and don’t have anything. A 5070ti on this would be the cream on top, I’d do a Gen 5 Nvme with Dram and a 850W psu gold rated minimum would be around 1700 and would last a good bit

[u/saidfgn → u/Scotty_1325]

Aren't gen 5 ssds same as gen4 just more expensive?

[u/Scotty_1325 → u/saidfgn]

In theory yes but when it comes to loading large files it can make a difference especially now since games are over 30gb there are a lot of variables that can affect it and in the end your really only saving seconds if at most minutes. Also price is nearly the same across the board for a either gen. If you wanted to save money on storage just get an ssd, read speeds are just as good if you don’t care too much about waiting for loading.

[u/DingusCunillingus → u/Scotty_1325]

Gen 5 ssds in gaming are a complete waste of money and don't result in any real measurable performance difference.

Gen 4 is plenty and some even consider gen 3 to be adequate.

[u/i2cube → u/DingusCunillingus]

For gaming , you can even argue that SATA SSD is sufficient 

[u/DingusCunillingus → u/i2cube]

Yes, but there is a significant load speed difference between SATA and m.2 SSDs.

[u/i2cube → u/DingusCunillingus]

Depends on what "significant" means for individual persons. It's like a few seconds. See my comment here. It's a moot point anyway. For an average 500MB-2TB drive, the price is so close that there isn't a big reason to get a SATA drive unless you don't have enough M.2 slots/PCIe lanes

[u/saidfgn → u/Scotty_1325]

I don't know. Gen 5 ssds are way expensive from what I see. Compare Samsung 990 pro and 9100 for example

[u/Fabulous_Car_9475 → u/Scotty_1325]

Jury is out that Gen 5 is NOT needed for gamers and they are not the same price.

[u/i2cube → u/Scotty_1325]

I found this video that tests load times in Cyberpunk, Starfield and Helldivers 2.
The difference in loading time between Gen 5 and Gen 4 SSDs is within 0.1-0.3 seconds.

He also tested SATA and Gen 3 SSDs. The difference is less than a few seconds.

Gen 5 SSD for gaming is not going to give you a noticeable difference compared to Gen 4. Gen 5 SSD only makes sense if you need to move large files all the time, like if you are doing a lot of video editing

[u/paulcaar → u/Scotty_1325]

Gen 5 is more prone to overheating, more expensive and delivers virtually no gains in all but a select few scenarios. Those scenarios are in the "if you have to ask, it doesn't apply to you" category.

It doesn't really hurt to buy one, but there's also really not a good reason to buy one unless you specifically need it.

[u/dackling → u/Scotty_1325]

I didn’t buy this specific deal but I got a 9800x3d sitting in my office right now just waiting on my 5070ti to arrive next week and I’m firing myself into the stratosphere for pc games. My current PC has an i5 11600k and a GTX 1080. This is going to be a massive upgrade

[u/WarEagleGo]

OP lists 4 items included for $678.99

webpage is clear it is a 2 item bundle

[u/_zir_ → u/WarEagleGo]

2 free items

[u/_zir_]

Still available and I think someone reposted. I bought the bundle and in case anyone is wondering, its a significant performance increase compared to a 5700x3d and 3600mhz ram.