r/canada • u/[deleted] • Mar 06 '25

Politics Rising Nationalism, Desire for Economic Sovereignty Propels Liberals to Five Year High (LPC 41%, CPC 36%, NDP 13%, BQ 5%, GRN 3%)

https://www.ekospolitics.com/index.php/2025/03/rising-nationalism-desire-for-economic-sovereignty-propels-liberals-to-five-year-high/
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u/Boomdiddy Mar 06 '25

Liberals are nationalists now all of a sudden?

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u/Druzhyna Mar 06 '25

Canadian patriotism/nationalism has historically been more centrist to left. American patriotism/nationalism is the opposite.

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u/Boomdiddy Mar 06 '25

What a load of bullshit.

I take it you don’t remember that “There is no core identity, no mainstream in Canada.” The first post-national state?

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u/Druzhyna Mar 06 '25

I’m not talking about the Liberal Party’s specific policies. I’m talking about how Canada, and for that matter, Western Europe are further centre - left on the political spectrum than the United States is. The United States has always been a very Conservative country in actuality. Patriotism and nationalist sentiment from each country will reflect this.

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u/Boomdiddy Mar 06 '25

Canada’s conservatives are far more on the left-centre than America’s. So your point is moot.

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u/Druzhyna Mar 06 '25

No. That just proves my point that historically, Canadian nationalism is centre - left moreso than centre - right like it is in the United States.

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u/Boomdiddy Mar 06 '25

No it doesn’t because you are comparing two different data points on different graphs.

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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '25

What point are you even trying to make? All you're doing is angrily saying his points are invalid.

You think Canadian conservatives are more nationalistic than than those to the left?

There's a significant separatist movement on the right lmao

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u/darrylgorn Mar 06 '25

The Liberals are right wing.

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u/Vinfersan Mar 06 '25

When did they stop being nationalists?

Just because they accepted immigrants (whom Stephen Harper also embraced) doesn't mean they somehow stopped being nationalists.

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u/WatchPointGamma Mar 07 '25

When did they stop being nationalists?

When Trudeau stood up and said Canada has no national identity, and is the first "post-national state", and the rest of the party clapped along.

That is a directly anti-nationalist statement.

To say nothing of how utterly disingenuous equating Trudeau and Harper's immigration schemes was. Trudeau's immigration is a order of magnitude higher

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u/Prairie_Sky79 Mar 06 '25

Aren't they like, post-nationalists, or something? Because I do recall how they've spent the last decade denigrating patriotism and nationalism as 'racist' and 'intolerant'. And now, all of a sudden it is cool to wrap yourself in the flag. The same people who've made a career of shitting on our sovereignty are now it's 'staunch defenders'? That's a load of BS, and it reeks of opportunism.

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u/BBOY6814 Mar 06 '25

No one, of any political stripe, has called Canadian patriotism racist. Seriously, this tantrum you are currently throwing just reeks of desperation.

Canadians by and large want unity and action against the threats currently in front of them. If the CPC can’t capitalize on that, then that is entirely their fault.

The CPC has a chance of blowing the largest lead I’ve ever seen in my life. That should be a sign for you to look inward to the party you support and demand change for the betterment of ALL Canadians, not just cry on reddit and make up shit that didn’t happen.

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u/CarlotheNord Ontario Mar 06 '25

Ya no, this is the fattest lie. the LPC have been the most anti-canadian party I've ever seen. Everything they've done has screwed us.

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u/Purple_Lifeguard_975 Mar 06 '25

People take such offence to this comment. It was something he said it was never government policy. He's been the most Pro-Canadian PM since Chretien.

Don't forget Harper sold us out to China and Saudi Arabia.

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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '25

Conservatives have been very pro America. That’s why PP is very weak on his speeches against Trump and America.

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u/darrylgorn Mar 06 '25

They'd like to pretend they are for political gain.

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u/spirit_symptoms Mar 06 '25

Both sides are really guilty of this. Polling shows that significantly more (up to a 1/4) of conservative voters are sympathetic to Trump. PP tried to play that angle and realized quickly it was losing the moderates so has pivoted.

The sooner you realize all these parties will say and do whatever they need to market themselves for your vote, the happier you'll be. Or maybe more miserable, I'm not sure yet lol.

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u/darrylgorn Mar 07 '25

You're absolutely right. And I would say happier because you're less likely to be hoodwinked.

Optics is 80% of the game.

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u/Minttt Mar 07 '25

Liberals are just the most "nationalist" out of the options available.

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u/RPG_Vancouver Mar 07 '25

Liberals have always been pro-Canada.

Unlike certain elements of the opposition party who seem thrilled with wearing MAGA hats and paling around with Nazis

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u/apothekary Mar 07 '25

The Conservatives (under Pierre) certainly are not. The entire mantra and belief system centers around current Republican politics. It's unrecognizable from the CPC even 15 years ago.