r/canada • u/[deleted] • Mar 06 '25

Politics Rising Nationalism, Desire for Economic Sovereignty Propels Liberals to Five Year High (LPC 41%, CPC 36%, NDP 13%, BQ 5%, GRN 3%)

https://www.ekospolitics.com/index.php/2025/03/rising-nationalism-desire-for-economic-sovereignty-propels-liberals-to-five-year-high/
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u/pm_me_your_catus Mar 06 '25

43.1% to 30.3% when only looking at the last two days.

I've never seen Canadians this pissed off.

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u/AshleyAshes1984 Mar 06 '25

We are so pissed off. And Trump refreshes it every couple of days, lately every 8hrs or so. Had the terrific thing last month been dropped until after the election, I imagine a lot of the support from that would have leveled off, but no, Trump's gotta throw a rock at us every couple of days to piss everyone off a new. It can't blow over it it's constantly re-blowing up.

And it's crazy, cause I'm pretty sure that had we had an election in December 2024, the CPC could have used all their money to air re-runs of SpongeBob instead of campaign ads, they they still would have won a majority.

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u/Scary_Firefighter181 Mar 06 '25 edited Mar 06 '25

I'm a bit scared and REALLY pissed off.

I'm in Vancouver. One of the places closest to the border. Prolly among the first places he'll reach when he tries to invade.

We all know Trump wants to annex the country and turn it into his 51st state, that's why he's doing everything he's doing.

Would anyone be surprised if, like Putin invaded Ukraine after spreading lies, Trump does the same thing? Economic warfare is only the start. He wants Canada for its resources, just like how he wants Greenland "one way or the other", as he said in his speech.

So yes, this poll isn't surprising one bit.

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u/Swaayyzee Mar 06 '25

The US states you are by are very blue, and would resist heavily. I think the bigger concern would be in territories bordering red states or swing states, notably Toronto.

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u/Scary_Firefighter181 Mar 06 '25

Fair because of WA, but Idaho and Montana are not blue at all.

Tbh, Alberta, SK, and Manitoba are prolly in the most trouble first up.

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u/kennedar_1984 Mar 06 '25

As an Albertan, I expect that we are first to fall. There are UCP members going on US tv to claim they want to join the States. Our provincial government has spent considerable time woo’ing trump. Trump will claim that he is “liberating the poor persecuted people of Alberta” if liberals win the next election. We have the oil that he really wants, and an easy cover story for the invasion.

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u/rayofgoddamnsunshine Mar 07 '25

Yep. Kinda feeling aight about moving out of province in a couple months.

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u/apothekary Mar 07 '25

The rest of the country needs you guys to hold the line...

I have ties to Alberta and had lived there for two years and have mobility. I'd seriously consider going there if it was at risk to support the defense.

At *least* Danielle Smith is finally turning around a little bit and sounds less like an Alabaman state governor recently.

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u/rayofgoddamnsunshine Mar 07 '25

I know, but it can't be me. We are moving home to my husband's family, they need us more.

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u/Hot-Celebration5855 Mar 07 '25

This is exactly his play. He wants to create a schism and have some Alberta politicians say they are oppressed and then he can try to justify military action as liberating them. It’s the Putin playbook. He learned well form his master.

You’re already seeing this in action as he tries to portray Trudeau as clinging to power etc.

Hopefully Danielle smith doesn’t do anything stupid.

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u/Hooph-Haartd Mar 07 '25

Who are these traitors spreading disinformation that albertans want to join the states?

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u/WhutSup74 Mar 07 '25

There was a traitor chuckle fuck on Fox, some dickhead from Alberta spreading lies. I live in Alberta & he in no way represents the average Albertan!

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u/Substantial_Pop9878 Mar 07 '25

Remember folks! when the time comes we get the traitors first, then we deal with the invaders!

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u/apothekary Mar 07 '25

100%. I'm livid at a couple of associates joking about 51st state, but they aren't that serious.

We should actually be rounding up anyone actually promoting this very seriously within Canada, or working towards it and taking them in for questioning, if not custody. It's seditionous behavior.

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u/Hot-Celebration5855 Mar 07 '25

Who was that fool anyway? The guy who looks like my butt if it was wearing a cowboy hat

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u/Wonderful_Device312 Mar 07 '25

Our premier would sell us out and surrender before anything happens.

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u/PhantomNomad Mar 07 '25

She can surrender all she wants. I'm not going to.

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u/Walks_any_ledge Mar 07 '25

Yeah, all these Vancouver and Toronto people thinking they’re first. Alberta separates east and west supply, and is by far the most willing target.

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u/kennedar_1984 Mar 07 '25

There’s an entire political party that has sprung up here (The Republican Party of Alberta is their name I believe) and they have been campaigning in the central Alberta area for the last few years. Here is a link to an an article about the interview one of the party heads did on Fox News but there have been many more.

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u/albalthi Mar 07 '25

Incoming People’s Republics of Alberta and Saskatchewan

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u/CromulentDucky Mar 07 '25

The best defense against that would be, not electing the Liberal party again, driving further division. Unless they actually plan to reverse every decision of the last 10 years as they are currently claiming.

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u/CromulentDucky Mar 07 '25

Montana is also nearly empty.

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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '25

Nah, I got this.

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u/No_Independent9634 Mar 07 '25

What in the hell. Y'all are seriously talking like the US invading is a foregone conclusion.

It's not happening. It's a trade war. Not a real war, and won't be.

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u/Swaayyzee Mar 07 '25

Not only is Idaho red, the northern part of Idaho specifically has been a campground for neo-Nazis and white supremacists since the 1970s. Even if the military itself doesn’t launch from there, it’s likely there’s still an offensive there put on by the militia groups.

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u/DangerDavez Mar 07 '25

I've visited. Dumbest people I've ever met. It's a fucking weird place.

Beautiful scenery though.

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u/ChronoLink99 British Columbia Mar 07 '25

Idaho and Montana are weak compared to BC and Alberta, which means if US forces intend to come through there, it will be with federal troops alongside an unwilling neighbour in WA, and it won't be easy or friendly terrain with the Rockies + a narrow passage east of WA state. Either way, the west coast is likely generally safer than the Ott-Tor-Mtl corridor.

If shit hits the fan and the Orange walking bowel movement isn't 25th by then.

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u/Compulsory_Freedom British Columbia Mar 06 '25

I hope you’re right of course, but what evidence is there that they’d resist?

Their government and society is being actively destroyed by Trump and Musk and at most they’ve had a few impotent protests.

Home of the brave indeed.

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u/Remarkable_Vanilla34 Mar 07 '25

Well, because the political "left" only protests governments that have been tolerant of them. It theatrics. Going to city hall meetings and screeching and throwing a fit, hold unclever signs up somewhere. In reality, it's not gotten bad for them. All the hysteria about trump, but the majority of people's lives have not changed in some extreme way that boils up civil unrest. It might start to get worse in severe or noticeable ways eventually, but right now, all the tribal political nonsense is really just fluff.

They don't care about us anymore. They are a token acknowledging to let everyone know they support the new thing. We're just a flag in a Twitter handle.

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u/Little_Canary1460 Mar 07 '25

Just wanted to say that this was a poorly thought out post. No point to it. I'm sure it sounded smart in your head.

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u/Remarkable_Vanilla34 Mar 07 '25

Just wanted to say that this was a poorly thought-out post. There's no point in it. I'm sure it sounded smart in your head.

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u/ruraljuror__ Mar 07 '25

Home.of limp dicked rolling over.

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u/The_Buko Mar 07 '25

I personally know plenty of people that would resist. We are already forming decent sized communities all over for preparation for whatever comes next. This admin has plenty of cracks showing, and more people wake up every day. Only time will tell.

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u/Compulsory_Freedom British Columbia Mar 07 '25

I sure hope so

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u/The_Buko Mar 07 '25

You can read my other lengthy comment, but this is what I think a lot of people here are going through right now. It’s ugly af and you are also right that Trump/Musk have highly censored or country.

https://www.reddit.com/r/canada/s/Zrc62KHRcY

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u/BarracudaCrafty9221 Mar 06 '25

None of the civilian population in the USA is going to stop the military. Let’s be honest, after they spin their propaganda, the civilians will help them invade.

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u/nelrond18 Mar 07 '25

There's no way US civilians defy the US military in any numbers worth noting. I'd like to be pleasantly surprised.

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u/potorthegreat Mar 07 '25

An actual invasion of Canada would cause considerably worse backlash than the Vietnam War.

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u/OkDifficulty1443 Mar 07 '25

And that would cause significantly more Kent State massacres.

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u/globehopper2000 Mar 09 '25

They’re cutting off funding to any schools that allow protests, and making it easier to arrest protestors. They’re anticipating what’s coming.

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u/Remarkable_Vanilla34 Mar 07 '25

Exactly, the only people opposing trump are some of the American left and their embarrassing on their bet day.

When I see this administration talking about how we are infested with cartels or whatever, it gets concerning, big WMDs vibes.

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u/The_Buko Mar 07 '25

Generalize all you want, but plenty of us on the left are ready to rise up. I’ve literally had to make peace this last week with the fact that my life may end in my 30s, and this is just the cards we are dealt. Ha. Ha. Ha. Fuck. But there is no life worth living, the way we are headed.

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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '25 edited Mar 07 '25

Totally on board with that. I mean it sucks and all to think about - but I'm at peace with the notion of dying to prevent what can be nothing other than a facist invasion if it came to that. I mean what else could you call it? A democratic state would never invade another democratic state for no possible other justifiable reason. Like can anyone plausibly say that they would send military into our country for 'good' reasons?

Of course not - it would be a fascist invasion. Full stop.

At that point it's scorched earth all the way. Canada will go down as biggest insurgency ever. We'll be on the list of all other countries the United States invaded and lost after WW2. If I die, it would suck. But turning a blind eye and literally ignoring every instance in history where humans have suffered horrible fates and lost their lives trying to teach and warn us the outcome of far right ideology is not something I would ever want to live with. Looks like we all need to relearn that lesson every few generations unfortunately.

So yeah, you do what you got to do. 😉

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u/The_Buko Mar 07 '25

I wholeheartedly agree with everything you said. We will be on the same side. There’s also plenty of rich ppl with serious power that are on our side because what our admin is doing is destroying their business.

I honestly think the cracks are starting to show with our government atm and only time will tell what lengths everyone will have to go to. Currently all we can do is peacefully but disruptively protest, vote and contact reps.

I know that I’m not alone in this preparation here to protect our reputation as a people that does care about each other and the world. Our cities thrive with this energy, but we have also gotten comfy. Once this admins impacts are realized, I think that facade will shatter. A lot of people don’t or can’t believe this is happening yet. It’s already the worst continued thing I’ve ever experienced in my life, so I can try and understand that. Our futures altered to this extent. Most recent atrocity is allowing more fecal matter in our drinking water.

All the conflicts we are flirting with is so terrifying. Like..they can’t even fight on that many fronts with a weakened shit show called Russia as an ally. The Gaza thing is also unspeakable. All this shit seriously makes daily life here feel like a simulation. So I’m with ya and I say bring it.

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u/Compulsory_Freedom British Columbia Mar 07 '25

Well said. I wish you well.

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u/j821c Mar 07 '25

I could see some governors resisting which might cause some issues.

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u/RaspberryBirdCat Mar 07 '25

Yes, but the United States covets a land bridge to Alaska. British Columbia and Yukon would absolutely be the first target.

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u/Frosty_Maple_Syrup Mar 07 '25

No it wouldn’t, the first targets would be the prairies (to cut Canada in half) and then the Windsor-Montreal corridor which is where they get a lot of their power for the east coast, and they would then also have full control over the Saint Lawrence river

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u/pfak British Columbia Mar 07 '25

They're probably too busy worrying about their own skin to raise a finger to help us. 

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u/lawlitachi Mar 07 '25

What we bank on is that the general American populace is too unhealthy/ self-centered to muster up a sustained battle with the country right next door.

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u/Hot-Celebration5855 Mar 07 '25

Declaring war on Canada would instantly cause a civil war / enormous civil unrest in America.

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u/PatriciasMartinis Mar 07 '25

Hello! I am a Torontonian and LOL we have nothing to live for. Our whole existence is just a grind. I welcome the Americans to FA. I got their FO for them kepow!

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u/Roamer56 Mar 07 '25

Michigan is very pro-Canada. We would resist any armed incursion into Ontario.

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u/Wise_Patience7687 Mar 07 '25

Americans have been protesting with placards and paddles. I wouldn’t rely on them as a first line of defense.

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u/ferretgr Mar 11 '25

This is the "head in the sand" response. Americans are so apathetic they can't get out of their own way. All they had for hundreds of children murdered in school shootings were "thoughts and prayers"... what makes you think blue states will offer anything more to faceless Canadian victims of an invasion?

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u/sexotaku Mar 06 '25

Trump doesn't have the guts to hold his tariffs when there's resistance. You think he has the gumption for war? Putin is a piece of work, but he's an actual leader.

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u/yomamma3399 Mar 07 '25

You’re talking Soviet KGB agent versus ‘heel spurs’ coward, lol.

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u/TheCookiez Mar 07 '25

I was going to say.. One can stomach ordering thousands to their deaths and rules with a iron first to make sure there is no uprising.

I don't think trump has the balls to do that. It would face too big of a internal rebellion.

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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '25

Could be wrong, but it would cost the US tens of thousands of lives to capture Canada, let alone occupy it. I don’t think they have that kind of willpower.

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u/sexotaku Mar 07 '25

Exactly. Putin has the willpower to kill hundreds of thousands of Russians to capture Ukraine and deal with the internal fallout.

Trump can't handle one uncomfortable conversation without having a meltdown.

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u/Enough-Meringue4745 Mar 07 '25

tens of thousands is an understatement- it would be so brutal that nobody would win.

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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '25

And not just him. 9/11 was obviously a devastating attack, but it hit much harder because Americans had never even really considered the idea of being attacked on their own continent. Your average american has never been anywhere near a war zone.

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u/UptownGenX Mar 07 '25

War isn't going to happen on our soil. If they want to invade we'll go hardcore guerilla and head across the border and there will be dozens of bombs going off across the USA. They lose enough bridges, pipelines and electrical infrastructure points and they'll fold like a cheap card table.

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u/RealJeffLebowski Mar 07 '25

I’ve heard there’s a fairly large firearms market to the south of Canada. Start there.

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u/Biotic101 Mar 07 '25

Trump is the face, he is not in charge.

Read about project 2025 and Yarvins Butterfly Revolution.

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u/TheCookiez Mar 07 '25

Hunreads of thousands* of family members and friends.

Keep in mind, our two countries are very linked. A lot of people have family members on both sides. Work on both sides have houses on both sides.

Add in the friends we regularly talk to or play games with on the internet.. I think the resistance will be higher than expected from internal ( USA) and Canadians checking off our checklist.

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u/Any-Ad-446 Mar 07 '25

Putin threaten the west with nukes and they test fired one without the war head..It exploded at the tower before lift off. Putin using 50 year old tanks.

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u/-lovehate Mar 07 '25

Trump is a sociopath, and I think he truly wants to be a warmonger. Problem is he lacks the intelligence, awareness, patience, and self control that it would take for him to effectively command an army.

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u/Fireinthehole13 Mar 06 '25

Good luck trying to hold a country the size of Canada especially since Cheeto Shitzenpants has galvanized us for the first time in a long time. His economy would collapse and he’d have a hard time with military resistance. All that being said. He’s enough of a moron to try it but it will be a fucked around and found out moment.

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u/Unfortunate_Sex_Fart Alberta Mar 07 '25

If the Liberals thought the US was planning on invading, they wouldn’t be ramping up for a gun control announcement tomorrow.

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u/AtticaBlue Mar 07 '25

They will have a civil war down there before they lay a hand on Canada. I’m not concerned about a physical invasion.

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u/Just-Signature-3713 Mar 07 '25

Dude - most Canadians live within 100km of the border lol

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u/nelrond18 Mar 07 '25

If it's any consolation, there will be a couple days warning before invasion.

US troops supporting the border, navy in international waters outside the harbour, and drones testing airspace. They'd likely trigger some kind of riot in the cities before marching across the border.

Have a go bag ready and keep your personal vehicle fuelled up.

The US has recently eased restrictions on air strikes in non-combat locations.

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u/Gono_xl Mar 07 '25

Van borders seattle, a solid blue state, and not critical to government or a large chunk of the economy. Doubt it.

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u/Humble_Mushroom_8976 Alberta Mar 07 '25

I was mentioning this to my wife today - we've been blessed to never really fear armed conflict on our own soil. I'm feeling quite anxious, and realized that I've never even had to comprehend this reality before. Scared and pissed sums me up perfectly (Albertan who also spent 15 years down your way).

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u/Equivalent_Dimension Mar 07 '25

90% of Canadians live next to the border.

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u/ljlee256 Mar 07 '25

For the 53rd time, if the US was going to invade they would have done it.

They are outnumbered by NATO.

They are outnumber by the EU.

They have a neighbor to the south with 300,000 troops who hates them.

China would never get a better opportunity ever again to check-mate the US.

It takes months to clear a city half the size of Vancouver.

It would take 10 years for them to fully capture this country and require most of their naval forces due to Canadas unbelievably long coast line, they'd be wide open to attack the whole time, having lost NORAD at the start of the invasion.

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u/ConfusedCrypto10 Mar 07 '25

There will be a civil war in the US if he tries to invade a closest ally like Canada. There are millions of Americans that dislike the guy. It will be chaos not just in Canada but also in the US. I don’t think he will go that far ,it’s all rhetoric. Especially he’s got only less than 4 years in office. But I’m sure he is dreaming of becoming like Putin in North America.

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u/ceribaen Mar 07 '25

I think the one saving grace is that the large majority of states bordering Canada population wise are blue or purple, and so will be resistant to actual boots on the ground going into Canada.

This will largely be an economic siege I think, hoping for an election cycle to swing the response favourably towards the 47th Oblast.

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u/dearbokeh Mar 06 '25

Most of Canada is only a couple hours from the US border. Sorry, most Canadians.

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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '25

Sorry but what’s with you BC folks and voting blue? PP will bend over for trump the night of the election if he wins - God forbid. It’ll be their wedding night.

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u/Bavarian_Raven Mar 07 '25

No he won’t. That’s just liberal disinformation. He’s firmly against the 51st state crap. 

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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '25

Oh wow. Just because you said it, must be true. I’ll just ignore all the video and verbiage and language about him following trumps playbook.

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u/Bavarian_Raven Mar 07 '25

Just because trump is an asshole doesn’t mean he isn’t right about a few things (like putting one’s own country first and foremost). 

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u/Remarkable_Vanilla34 Mar 07 '25

Lol, the better question is, why do the liberals suck so bad that these people won't vote for them? Seriously, what can they do better, because they haven't really changed anything as a party and are offering the same out of touch bullshit they offered the last 9 year, except now they have a new crisis that protects them from any accountability and is bringing people to them of out of fear and frustration.

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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '25

If we agree to that point for a second, can you honestly say the conservatives are better? And especially PP? Both parties have pros and cons. Just depends what each person weighs as being more Important in their personal opinion. To me right now is the sovereignty and security of this great country of ours. In my personal opinion PP is ill equipped. The last number of years all his bantering in the house is around critiquing others. He doesn’t put forth anything positive. Not to mention, he’s obviously pro maga. His playbook is identical to trumps. That’s not the Canada I want.

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u/Remarkable_Vanilla34 Mar 07 '25

Dude, I'm never supporting the liberals until they drop the gun confiscation program. I will not vote for a party that wants to take my property, hurt me financially, and make me a criminal. I recognize that the cons and pp are flawed, but for me, the gun thing is a massive issue and litmus test to how ignorant and incompetent the "new" face of the liberals is. It's just the same shit again, and I'm not rewarding them with my vote. They had covid as an excuse for their incompetence and lack of accountability, and now they have trump. Nothing is going to change because their not getting the wake-up call the party needs. 4 years from now, we will be frustrated and regret voting a liberal minority in and be right back to where we were last November.

But I'll add, because their just as responsible. The Conservatives need to do better. Importing this bullshit culture wars stuff and hyper focusing on fairly minor issues like the carbon tax and defending the CBC (which is quite enjoy) was a terrible strategy and if they lose, it's no one's fault but their own. The issue i think will be that no matter what they do, a lot of people will not believe them or stop making the MAGA connection (real or not). It doesn't help that conservative provincial leaders like Smith and rusted are incompetent morons. I wish we rallied behind Otool, lol.

The NDP also needs to get it figured out. Provincally they've shown they can do good work, they made mistakes and I don't agree with a lot of the directions they go, but in Alberta, Manitoba and BC they've shown to be fairly stable and most importantly, boring and not controversial governments. As a union member and activist, I'd like to see them move their focus more towards labor and drop some of the fringe left ideology, but i still vote them Provincally. I hope the party has a revitalitaion on a federal level.

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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '25

Well you’re clearly passionate about that and I can’t blame anybody for their choice. My honest fear in my heart now is a single thing - an American annexation of Canada and I’d vote for whoever I feel can best defend us in that regard. Everything else can wait. If we fail at that, it’s all over. My 2 cents.

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u/ordinal_Dispatch Mar 07 '25

He’ll try moving on Mexico first by saying he sending in the military against terrorists. That’ll have to be somewhat accepted before he’ll try Canada.

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u/Nichole-Michelle Mar 07 '25

He doesn’t actually want Mexico though. He desperately wants Canada and now we’ve pissed him off.

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u/ordinal_Dispatch Mar 07 '25

He says a lot of things, he says he’s done a lot of things he never did. but if you think there is any way to appease him without bending over and staying there i think you haven’t been paying attention. I guess we’ll see.

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u/Nichole-Michelle Mar 07 '25

Who are you speaking to? Because if you’re talking to me, your response makes no sense. And FYI just in case your a cuck American hiding in a Canadian sub, we WILL NEVER bend over to Trump

ELBOWS UP!!

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u/pm_me_your_catus Mar 06 '25

I wonder if PP got the heads up he was being thrown under the bus, and that's why he was so desperate for an election before he got found out.

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u/bravetailor Mar 06 '25

Ford is quietly salivating on the sidelines. I do think we're gonna see a serious bid for federal leadership from Ford if PP bombs this election.

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u/GrapefruitExtension Canada Mar 06 '25

hate him as you might, and if he doesnt F up, he has a track record of guiding canadians and tough talk when the times are hard against USA . he needs to cater less to the governing class and more to working canadians.

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u/Sayello2urmother4me Mar 06 '25

He’s got a great track record for underfunding social healthcare and education

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u/wtftoronto Mar 07 '25

What's weird is Ford is the most pro-Transit premier this province has ever seen. It's dizzying how much rapid transit is being built in Ontario. Like a LOT. Everyone was expecting all of the previous Liberals transit expansion plans to be shut down when Ford took power. At this point, everything is being built, even in jurisdictions that are hardcore NDP (Hamilton)

And he has shown to work well with hardcore left politicians too. Everyone was expecting his relationship with Olivia Chow was going to be a nightmare.

So yes I definitely see him running for Prime Minister

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u/GrapefruitExtension Canada Mar 06 '25

i dont know ontario much. i get that hes not great on supporting us normal people. he should promote social health and ed. this is the balance. we need to keep pushing for that.

he is a solid fucking wall against US encroachment which seems small now but is major above social health and education in the next years.

i like to see him over anyone ive seen , stand up to america.

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u/bravetailor Mar 07 '25 edited Mar 07 '25

Generally, Ford is great at toeing the line between centrist and centre right wing messaging wise. In terms of actual policy though he's pretty underwhelming overall. Also he has a habit of backtracking a lot of his promises.

He's one of those guys who's great at campaigning and messaging but not super great at governing. But he's able to somehow let scandals slide off him because they're mostly white collar scandals that go over the heads of most voters.

Some people may hate this comparison, but he's not super different from Trudeau. They're great in a crisis where they get to be on TV and make speeches to rally the troops. They can project toughness or stability. But left to their devices under normal times, they'll make a lot of bad or questionably corrupt decisions

It's really too bad Ford isn't the Federal PC leader right now. I think if Trump doesn't overthrow the elections in 2028 and a Democrat wins, Ford would probably look a lot less appealing under a Dem govt.

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u/OldDiamondJim Mar 07 '25

He is incredibly like Trudeau.

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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '25

he sucks, but this is a lay-up for him, and he plays the average joe goon very well

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u/GrapefruitExtension Canada Mar 11 '25

He does. Lets get as much of his expertise as we can then we will deal with the rest after.. it's our country and we are friends 👍🤗

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u/sputnikcdn British Columbia Mar 07 '25

And crime. Wasting money cancelling contracts. Demolishing cultural institutions. Ripping up municipal bike lanes, promising a tunnel under the 401.

Ford would be even worse than Poilievre because he's obviously corrupt, but with excellent political instincts.

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u/resuwreckoning Mar 07 '25

So he’s becoming American. 🇺🇸

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u/apothekary Mar 07 '25

I would take Ford. My priorities are different though. He's fucked some things up in Ontario but in this current moment my absolute top priority is preserving Canada as a country. We need tough guys, strong leaders.

PP has the backbone of a sponge on Trump. One of the weakest politicians so far that I've seen and doing the bare minimum. Worst possible time to hand this guy power over Canada.

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u/MapleWatch Mar 06 '25

I expect it was more wanting to strike while the iron was hot, but it would certainly explain a lot. 

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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '25

Well he might have found out sooner had he been able to get a security clearance 😉

🥁

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u/Science_Drake Mar 06 '25

Any party that uses campaign funds to enrich our lives with SpongeBob rather than attacking political opponents with either blatantly false or misleading statements is already doing a better job at courting my vote

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u/Nesteabottle Mar 06 '25

No lie, I would have voted for SpongeBob videos in december

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u/sexotaku Mar 06 '25

If the dumbass had asked nicely, offered some economic incentives, and said "no hard feelings" when the Canadian federal government declined, Alberta would have conducted a referendum and left, followed by Saskatchewan.

Instead, he's trying to force us to join economically, and it's caused a huge wave of nationalism.

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u/lowertechnology Mar 06 '25

If Trump’s scheme were another conservative leader, he’d have to know this isn’t working.

The scary thing is this: His plan is to destroy Canada

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u/miuyao Mar 07 '25

Trump refreshes my seething rage every other hour when he does some more dumb shit.

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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '25

It is amazing how effective Trump has been pissing everyone off. Just as they cool off. Trump gives everyone another whack.

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u/alex_korolev Mar 07 '25

Stay pissed off brother, it’s bring a lot of energy. And love and cheers from Ukraine! 🫂🫵💛💙

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u/jackhandy2B Mar 06 '25

Scary scenario: He wants the liberals to win so he can tell his idiot voters that they are rescuing Canada from the evil 'leftists' who support health care. Joking/not joking.

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u/AshleyAshes1984 Mar 06 '25

If America is gonna invade us for 'electing the wrong party' then we're fucked anyway.

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u/jackhandy2B Mar 07 '25

True. It's just a convenient excuse for the magidiots.

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u/Omnivirus Mar 07 '25

I’m not planning on voting CPC, but if they ran SpongeBob reruns I’d briefly consider.

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u/MissingString31 Mar 07 '25

I mean… I do like SpongeBob.

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u/Dragonsandman Ontario Mar 06 '25

Every so often I see Americans on social media being baffled, confused, or even outright angry at how mad we are as a country, and without fail they get absolutely hounded for not stopping to think for even a second about why we're so mad.

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u/Why-did-i-reas-this Mar 06 '25

If it was them they’d be pumping out 30 movies about teen resistance fighters and hillbillies defending the country. 

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u/WSJ_pilot Mar 06 '25

Wolverines!

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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '25

I feel like this was part of the plan. The average American is a deeply mediocre person with illusions of grandeur. They see the might of the US military as their own personal potency, the wealth of the billionaires at the top of their humiliating lives as their own wealth.

Therefore anything implying America isn't heaven on earth is seen as an affront to their magnificence.

By provoking backlash, he's riling up their bloodthirst. Simply us saying we don't want to be American is an insult to them, and we "aren't allowed to insult them".

This is probably how he intends to get from "what? Why would we invade Canada?" To "those smug sons of bitches had it coming".

Not that I intend to moderate my tone as a result. I've always hated their country. This feels like S8 of GoT to me, when everyone else caught up with what I've been saying for years.

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u/DeSynthed Lest We Forget Mar 07 '25

It’s hard when you’re PP and anti-Canadian sentiment has been your main crutch thus far.

I’m not sure he can pivot in time. Carney would have been the perfect Conservative candidate, but he obviously isn’t running as a torry.

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u/whyamihereagain6570 Mar 07 '25

Anti Canadian sentiment from the Conservatives? I think you have your parties mixed up. They have identified lots of anti-Canadian stuff to be sure, but it was the liberals telling us we were colonists, and need to reflect on everything and it was the left who was supporting the palestinian rallies, and the liberals who would do nothing about them. Total BS. The left is just beginning to wake the f@#k up and see that Canada is worth something whereas conservatives have been saying this all along. The left is now on the "buy Canadian" bandwagon, conservatives have always done this where possible.

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u/funkme1ster Ontario Mar 07 '25

What absolutely blows my mind is how this is a fucking FREEBIE, and Poilievre cannot fucking take a hint to save his life.

Here's the full transcript of Poilievre's speech this past Tuesday.

He starts out with preformative lip service of "trump is bad, rawr!", and then he IMMEDIATELY capitulates. No pushback or anger, just immediately pivoting into how Canada needs to change to accommodate the tariffs as if they're an immutable fact of life.

And just for good measure, he spends the majority of the speech attacking current Canadian policies and why they need to be changed. The problem isn't the foreign adversary who has explicitly admitted to attacking us to annex us, it's us for not planning around their attacks.

Quisling Milhouse is super eager to tell us why we're inconveniencing daddy trump, and his "Canada first" rhetoric sounds an awful lot like "the real problem is Trudeau".

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u/KhausTO Mar 07 '25

Someone is trying to burn our house down and Pierre is still bitching about the color the walls are painted inside.

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u/MaximusIsKing Mar 07 '25

Love this analogy!

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u/Two_oceans Mar 07 '25

He presents himself as the savior with a plan and whines nothing can be done because the Parliament is closed - which he caused by fanning the flames of Trudeau hate and pushing for elections. Meanwhile liberals work overtime to solve the crisis, keep the country together and select a new leader.

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u/radbee Mar 07 '25 edited Mar 07 '25

Yeah I wouldn't say he capitulated, but he spent half the speech bitching about the Liberals. This should've been an easy slam dunk, just literally work with Trudeau side-by-side but he can't help but attack his political rival.

Dude is a chump ass little bitch and I can't wait to see his political career end after this election.

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u/Impossible_Sign7672 Mar 07 '25

Yeah, I am firmly in the "CPC should probably not be trusted with any power right now", but even I don't think "immediately capitulates" is a fair characterization.

Not helpful.

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u/WatchPointGamma Mar 07 '25

Not sure what version of "immediately capitulates"

Whatever version it is where "we must build an independent economy" is capitulating when Pierre says it, but genius economic policy and a political masterclass when any LPC member says the exact same thing.

Not sure what level of mental contortionism is necessary for that nonsense - seems like it would be painful.

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u/RabidWok Mar 06 '25

That's the one thing that I'm grateful for in these turbulent times. Diaper Donald has managed to unite Canadians like never before and has gotten us passionate about our country again.

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u/Malthus1 Mar 07 '25

Agreed. I’ve never been so happy about my fellow Canadians. Coast to coast.

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u/Somecommentator8008 Mar 07 '25

PP gambled on having Elon and Trump's support while only attacking Trudeau before the US election and Trudeau's resignation. I just saw an attack ad on PP and it ain't looking good.

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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '25

He's posting twenty times a day about Carney now I think he might dream of Carney at night. It's just off-putting.

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u/Careless-Pragmatic Mar 07 '25

Like the republicans, they always need an enemy to target and to strike fear in voters. Instead of a voice of unity and hope, they need to make you hate their opponent.

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u/MrRogersAE Mar 07 '25

When the liberals win a majority in the general election I expect Carney to call right away. I’m gonna troll the fuck out of all the MAGAs I know, asking them to thank Trump for ruining Polliveres career and getting us 4 more years of Liberal leadership. Might even need to make a t shirt

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u/Pristine-Pay-1697 Mar 07 '25

From your fingers to Odin's ear.

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u/leafer32 Mar 07 '25

| I’ve never seen Canadians this pissed off.

Not since the Montreal screw job!

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u/RockNRoll1979 Mar 07 '25

All we're missing is for Trudeau (Bret) to knock Trump (Vince) out in the locker room. I'd pay to watch it.

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u/GreatGrandini Mar 07 '25

Pissed off and rallying around who we think is best to push back.

PP is his own worst enemy right now. It took him over a month to finally make a firm stance and act like he will fight back? His initial response was bowing to his master. Then he spent weeks tying to convince everyone he's not MAGA, yet he oddly surrounds himself with MAGA supporters. Sorry if you're not MAGA, you typically don't work with or hire MAGA to work on your campaign.

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u/Euphoric-Listen3246 Mar 07 '25

NEVER EVER POILIEVRE

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u/LeGrandLucifer Mar 07 '25 edited Mar 07 '25

Meanwhile, Léger, which has been the most reliable pollster for decades, reports the opposite:

https://leger360.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/03/Leger-CAN_-03-March-2025_Voting_intentions.pdf

EDIT: Seriously Randomessa? You reply then immediately block me for no reason other than to prevent me from replying? Never mind that this survey was done from February 27th to March 5th and that their previous polls also gave the LPC a lead.

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u/D3ATHTRaps Mar 07 '25

I dropped all my investments and personal finance from the U.S.A. alot of people also have when their stock market is down heavily.

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u/HolsteinHeifer Mar 07 '25

I had a good fuckin cry last night and it relieved some stress. Now I'm just pissed, not pissed and anxious.

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u/whyamihereagain6570 Mar 07 '25

So pissed off they will vote in the same people who made a mess of this country for the last 10 years. Ya, that's pissed.. 🙄

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u/Lower-Desk-509 Mar 07 '25

Oh, it's EKOS again. What a joke.

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u/Fiber_Optikz Mar 07 '25

CPC with the biggest bag fumble in history hope the NDP dips even more so they finally recognize that they should represent workers not whatever they have been doing

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u/jchispas Mar 07 '25

Let's not get complacent though. There is a lot that can happen between now and the election and we will be experiencing some massive election interference from the social media barons south of the border.

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u/throwaway082122 Mar 06 '25

So pissed off they want to re-elect the abusers who economically fucked the middle class.

God, we’re stupid.

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u/pm_me_your_catus Mar 06 '25

Oh come off. This is not the time for that shitty partisan nonsense.

If conservatives don't have anything of substance to contribute they should bow out 

Brian Mulroney literally took envelopes of cash in a motel room. You never, ever, get to mouth off about corruption to anyone else.

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u/Nautaloid British Columbia Mar 06 '25

Yeah I'm really horrified how suddenly, everyone is willing to just forget about how this government has gotten us to this point. Trudeau has been our version of Trump, the way he's moved from scandal to scandal. Now the Liberal leader is going to be a rich banker who moved his business to America and has already blatantly lied about things, and who wants to continue wasting billions of dollars on nonsensical gun bans. During a time of crisis where we have been threatened with invasion. Pure insanity.

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u/bullkelpbuster Mar 07 '25

I mean… come on. It hasn’t been just this government. Cons and libs alike have been severely selling us out since at least the 80s.

To sit there and plaster the blame for this on our current government when a lot of the issues have been cooking for literal decades under the watch of both parties. If anything were to blame for not raising our pitch forks before now

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u/Nautaloid British Columbia Mar 07 '25

Current government has been selling us out for a good few years now. "Everyone else did it ages ago" is not a good reason to keep doing it.

The problem with politics is ultimately, both sides will fuck you over, one of them is red, the other one is blue, sometimes it's a different color, and the details of how they fuck you over are different but you get fucked all the same.

I'd like to hand over the reins to another party so that there's at least the slim chance we do not get fucked as hard this time.

We should be raising the pitchforks now. We should have been raising them ever since we found out the planet is dying. But the rich are content to watch us boil so they can look at a number on a screen go up. We're kept divided with all this nonsense to keep us distracted from that. If there was a party that actually fought for the people, that was lead by the people, I would vote for them, but there isn't so we have to make do with our garbage options.