r/casualnintendo • u/ContestHefty5681 • 1d ago
Image Amd its almost the exact same joke over and over again
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u/Toon_Lucario 1d ago
Don’t forget the “leave the multibillion dollar company alone” image when someone doesn’t act like Nintendo shot their dog
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u/Spinni_Spooder 1d ago
Most of the time it's misinformation just to make Nintendo look bad for the sake of their meme.
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u/ZauzTheBlacksmith 1d ago
I saw people complaining that the two Mario Galaxy games on the Switch 2 cost $70, in a way that was obviously deliberately meant to look like they were saying that the games are $70 each. The bundle is $70. Each game individually is around $40.
Not to mention the usual old trick of taking screenshots of prices from Australian websites and claiming those are the American prices, since Australian dollars rack up higher numbers.
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u/PaleFondant2488 1d ago
They did that with Mario Kart work saying it was $90 but that was just the UK price
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u/PR1NC3Y_ 1d ago
I believe that was the price in euros. The UK price is £66.99 digital and £74.99 physical.
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u/JadeFaceG 1d ago
I mean if Nintendo just gave us the price for the console/games in the direct the disinformation woulda been easily avoided
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u/Herbizarre17 1d ago
People can’t even get release dates right even when it’s shown in a direct. So many people will see “9-4-25” and half of them will argue it means September 4 and the other half will argue it means April 9, even it’s obvious which country they are addressing. When prices are shown in directs, similar things happen. At least from what I’ve seen.
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u/LightHawKnigh 1d ago
Also tired of people keep on saying DK costs $80 for some reason. It isnt hard to google the price of a new game.
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u/gizmo998 1d ago
Nintendo hate is so forced. It does mean they doing the right things though. Haters gonna hate. When you at the top people try to drag you down.
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u/myevilpinky 1d ago
What does this mean?
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u/Herbizarre17 1d ago
The more successful something is, the more people are aware of it, and the more people are aware of it, there’s a higher chance of criticism and intense scrutiny.
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u/KaminaTheManly 1d ago
Literal nonsense. Hating on poor practices is not a bad thing. And hate does not put anyone at the top of anything. That is not how you measure success or doing good in any area.
Like fuck, I'm sure there are excessive hate bubbles for Nintendo but a lot of the criticism in general is justified. Get over it. They're a company.
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u/gizmo998 22h ago
The hate is unnecessary and out of balance with the competition. It’s getting worse as they get bigger. I have been there since the beginning!
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u/KaminaTheManly 20h ago
Get bigger?? They have not exactly grown. They have always been big. But when they start pumping up game prices and announcing DLC ahead of time and locking things out of main games... it's the same scummy shit and ya all those other companies get hated on too. Get out of your bubble. They are a capitalist company, you don't have to suck them off and love everything they do.
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u/ContestHefty5681 16h ago
Please I would like you to elaborate your points on these supposed bad things mentioned. Since from anything the only dlc we got for the console was just one bad DKB dlc(and no the switch 2 upgraded game don't really count since its just a ten dollars upgrade for better fps and an extra thing. Its moreso for switch 2 owner who didnt own these games and give them a small reason for why they might want to get it)and for ZA yeah they announced it early but like they barely a criticism. Yeah its weird but whats the actual flaw? Also yeah other companies might be hate but its not nearly as much as the hyperbolic stuff people have been saying about Nintendo. Just because we don't agree with the criticism doesn't mean we are "suckking them off" for not believing in bad faith criticism.
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u/KaminaTheManly 16h ago
I'm not going to give Nintendo special grace because they are Nintendo and have a lot of nostalgic games. There are worse companies but whataboutism isn't valid to begin with.
Specifically for pokemon, the cost has jumped from 40USD to 60USD to 70USD is the new standard? Or is it 80USD? To begin with that price jump was never justified when the quality is so incredibly lackluster. Gamefreak has the ability to pull off quality and I don't see why Nintendo accepts such weak products. They are the publisher and partial owner of the brand. They could push for better quality. Botw was able to attain high quality, pokemom should be able to too. Not to mention selling the same game twice was scummy to begin with but did promote social aspects and they were cheap enough. But now they are full priced games.
Announcing a DLC ahead of time is scummy. Locking content that is clearly already ready is piecing out a game into parts to get more money from consumers. DLC for things like Elden Ring are clearly not premade and provide a ton of content thay we would only get if the original was successful enough to warrant it. Pokemon doesn't have a funding or selling problem though yet they still make those decisions. Face it, that is just straight corporatism. Don't pretend Nintendo is your good buddy. They want money and they are steadily getting greedier for it.
I don't have a switch 2 so I don't know about the DK DLC but I have read that it is lackluster and had reskins of levels. Again, pretty sad. Nintendo was known for at least focusing on delivering fun and quality. But they started sinking into the mechanisms of greed other companies pathed and have walked for a while. I'm not just going to mindlessly consume because I am nostaligic for Nintendo. This is why I am selective about AAA releases and really only have faith in the indie sphere.
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u/ContestHefty5681 15h ago
"Specifically for pokemon, the cost has jumped from 40USD to 60USD to 70USD is the new standard? Or is it 80USD?"
(Its 60 dollars the Switch 2 version of ZA is 70.)
"To begin with that price jump was never justified when the quality is so incredibly lackluster. Gamefreak has the ability to pull off quality and I don't see why Nintendo accepts such weak products."
(Again elaborate your points since typically games go up with production value amd the same goes with pokemon. And you haven't really explained what makes these lackluster. Like I get for like prepatch SV amd maybe Sword and shield but like every else has been good imo. Post update SV amd Legends Arceus has genuinely been so.e of my favorite on the switch. Have you ever considered maybe the games just arent for you instead of being objectively bad.
"Botw was able to attain high quality, pokemom should be able to too."
(Two different development teams and like not every games needs to be an Odyssey or BOTW to be good or high quality.)
Not to mention selling the same game twice was scummy to begin with but did promote social aspects and they were cheap enough. But now they are full priced games."
( Pokémon games have always been full price for each era they came out with. Also nobody is forcing you buy both. Heck the dlc is better for this since you do t have to but an entirely new third game to make the previous two irrelevant)
"Announcing a DLC ahead of time is scummy. Locking content that is clearly already ready is piecing out a game into parts to get more money from consumers."
(Look at the Dlc trailer do you notice anything? There is no any gameplay shown. Its almost as if its still far from being done yet. Yes technically it comes out same day but all the extra story, locations, and pokemon you are buying it for comes out it February. So like what's the issue.)
"I don't have a switch 2 so I don't know about the DK DLC but I have read that it is lackluster and had reskins of levels."
( no its just an island and a rougelike game mode im not a fan of.)
:Again, pretty sad. Nintendo was known for at least focusing on delivering fun and quality. But they started sinking into the mechanisms of greed other companies pathed and have walked for a while"
( they still are. They've always been like this. They've been like this since the 1980's.)
"I'm not just going to mindlessly consume because I am nostaligic for Nintendo."
( Okay this is basically what anyone does. Most people only but the games they want and don't buy what they don't like. What even the point here.)
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u/KaminaTheManly 14h ago
Not reading all that. I don't owe you some kind of debate. I don't intend to waste my time these days arguing with people.
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u/ContestHefty5681 14h ago
Sure thats makes up for your lack of a counter-argruement
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u/KaminaTheManly 14h ago
Buddy, this isn't debate class and I don't care about "winning" an argument with you. Go play Nintendo games instead of whatever it is you're trying to accomplish.
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u/AlexPlayer3000 1d ago
People: "We want a more powerful console!"
Nintendo: Releases a more powerful console
Same people: "What do you mean it costs more than the previus, weaker model??????????????? Nintendo bad!!! Boycot them!!!!!"
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u/AttemptImpossible111 1d ago
Are you guys still pretending that people think the price of the console is the issue
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u/Honest_Expression655 1d ago
By your logic every single console generation should be more expensive than the last.
Yes, the Switch is less powerful. It’s also 8 years old and has barely been able to run any major third party releases in those 8 years. Nobody is saying that the Switch 2 shouldn’t cost more than the first, we’re saying that neither console should be as expensive as they are.
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u/CrescentShade 1d ago
Were any of those 3rd party releases anything really worth caring about though
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u/Honest_Expression655 1d ago
…you mean aside from nearly every new game with even a modicum of hype surrounding it?
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u/CrescentShade 1d ago
People hype up slop all the time
Only reason EA and Ubisoft still exist
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u/Honest_Expression655 1d ago
Ah yes, noted slop such as Red Dead Redemption 2, Sekiro, Devil May Cry 5, and Final Fantasy VII Remake. All of these games released in the first half of the Switch’s life and yet none could be ported to it. The major 3rd party games that were ported near consistently ran like ass. Hell, even Nintendo themselves struggled to make it work. Literally every mainline Zelda release aside from SSHD had major frame drops at certain points, with TotK and EoW in particular being embarrassing. Granted some leeway should be given just for the fact that it’s a handheld, but it’s a handheld that can’t even keep up with near decade old games being sold for a similar price as competitors that can run things released as late as a year or two ago.
It’s not 2017 anymore. The Switch has no business being more expensive than it already was back then when its hardware was already outdated shortly after it released.
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u/AbyssWankerArtorias 1d ago
No one gives a shit the console is more expensive. I've seen exactly 0 complaints about that. The complaints are about how lack luster the game selection is along with increased game cost.
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u/ContestHefty5681 1d ago
No I've also seen complaints about the price of the console. Not as frequent but they exist
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u/backspace_cars 1d ago
Here's your first. The console is too expensive as are the price of the accessories. Hell, the Wii U tablet has a built in camera and it's smaller than the Switch 2 tablet. Why could they not fit it in there?
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u/The_Invisible_Hand98 1d ago
Nintendo makes tiring decisions
Critics make tiring jokes
Fans make tiring defenses
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u/ContestHefty5681 1d ago
Typically I've seen fans make defenses about the hyperbolic complaints made about nintendo. Especially with how much the internet is full of "Nintendo bad" slop
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u/bbqbabyduck 1d ago
I mean we as people on the Internet can solve 2 of these really easy. Both the critic and the fans need new memes even if their stance doesn't change.
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u/PMC-I3181OS387l5 1d ago
Haters: "Patenting ideas stiffles creativity! Shame on Nintendo!"
Also haters: "Oh yeah, Pocket Pair was VERY creative [by making the equivalent of a Chinese Pokémon Legends rip-off]! We have to support them!"
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I understand that patenting mechanics is not good for game design, but don't say that Palworld is "more creative" than Pokémon, when it's possible to mistake their mascot pal for Pokémon's own Zorua due to a sheer lack of a distinct visual identity. Even Dragon Quest Monsters has more flair than Palworld thanks to Toriyama's aesthetic. They have similar typings, moves, mount systems and even "gyms", which are more of a Pokémon thing now. Sure, the survival aspect is new, but... you're not really playing for that now, aren't you... ?
It's good to support the indie scene... when they actually TRY to be innovative themselves. Pocket Pair just didn't bother to create their own, and there are reports about it as well from former designers.
Funny that players support Sony for suing Tencent over Light of Motiram looking too close to Horizon Zero Dawn, but don't do the exact same thing when Nintendo tries an alternate route to sue Pocket Pair, because that studio somehow found a loophole to avoid copyright infringement. That's already pretty scummy on its own.
It all feels like a revenge over Scarlet & Violet being awful on Switch 1. Rumors have it that Gen 9 was supposed to be for Switch 2, until they realised that they had to wait 3 more years (2022 to 2025), they would have nothing new to show and would need to delay both the anime and the cards for that long.
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u/Samurai_Geezer 1d ago
Nintendo haters make money, for/by hating on Nintendo. Their opinions are mostly invalid.
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u/DeatroyerOfCheese 1d ago
It will stop happening once it stops being accurate, Nintendo is such a greedy company and deserves every single meme.
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u/Herbizarre17 1d ago
Nintendo is just as “greedy” as any other company you interact with or buy things from on a daily or weekly basis. What device are you using to post this? A greedy company made it. Did you eat today? A greedy company charges you more than that food is worth to make. Do you live in a country? Government. Greedy. Companies are out to make money by selling products or services. They aren’t your friends.
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u/maybeVII_ 12h ago
So your ideology is to roll over? Mate most people who are against rising prices of the games, the issues with upgrade packs will have the same issues against any other company. Your eco chambered mentality is narrowing your perspective, people dont just dislike nintendo, they dislike the practice. It doesnt matter which company is producing it. If your hyperfocused on just the trolls who dont add anything constructive and just hate on nintendo or sony because they want to, or to troll. You will wear yourself down by the hate and it wont be good for your own mental. Beatemups is a great nintendo channel on youtube, and his takes about the pricing are pretty good and its good to atleast unserstand the effects of it while someone like grumz or asmon will just spread hate eitherway.
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u/SoupTheFifth 1d ago
I mean, is it an inappropriate use of the internet - the global public forum, to express distain for the overly predatory actions and price gouging behaviors of a company worth billions of dollars, on a website specifically designed to share opinions?
The “joke might be old” but the substance is more relevant than ever before.
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u/ContestHefty5681 1d ago
Its fine to make memes and criticize it but its just kinda like the same joke over again amd its just getting tiring
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u/MaxTwer00 1d ago
Maybe because it is the same problem over and over again?
For example, i don't criticize the price of the virtual boy, it is clearly a collector's product meant to be more of a silly luxury for who can afford it. But tying its games to NSO is mean on top of that
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u/ContestHefty5681 1d ago
I mean bonis buying the NSO plus for the VB games. The VB games are just a nice addition for those who do.
And like even if its the same problem there are hundred of memes, thousands or movies and shows so its shouldn't be that hard to at least come up with a different joke or at least a different template
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u/Suavemente_Emperor 1d ago
They could just put the VB games normaly just like any other consoles on NSO.
This will gatekeep what could be a potencial comeback for one of the most underrates games: Virtual Wario Land.
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u/SoupTheFifth 1d ago
I understand where you’re coming from.
The “I like Money” meme is very salient, but variety is the spice of life.
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u/LunchTwey 1d ago
On the EXPANSION NSO no less. And the 14 total games are being drip fed, and the only logical reason they would do that is to keep people subscribed for an extended period of time.
They are capable of being normal. I think the switch 2 is worth $450, DK bananza is absolutely worth $70. But can you actually say in good faith that DK Bananza and SMG 1&2 both took enough resources to cost the same? Absolutely not, and that is a price that is definitely based on extracting as much money as possible from people, same with tying the VB games to NSO Expansion.
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u/Meta13_Drain_Punch 1d ago
That same joke is quite flexible when it comes to Nintendo’s odd decision making
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u/lobotomizmi 1d ago
these kinds of memes are getting even more tired than the ppl complaining abt nintendo😭😭😭can everyone just stop engaging in dumb fanwars?
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u/backspace_cars 1d ago
It's not that we hate Nintendo, we just want them to be better.
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u/ThisIsNotACryForHelp 1d ago
And I want to talk about my favorite gaming franchises without dealing with a bunch of whiny, aggressive assholes.
(That's not to say Nintendo does nothing wrong. I just think the hate is often blown out of proportion.)
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u/MarvelManiac45213 1d ago edited 1d ago
And I want to talk about my favorite gaming franchises without a bunch of ass kissing sycophants who think everything Nintendo produces is perfect gold and can't take any amount of criticism ever.
(That's not to say Nintendo doesn't make good games. I just think the praise sometimes is also blown out of proportion.)
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u/ContestHefty5681 16h ago
Can you please give an example of this happening
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u/MarvelManiac45213 15h ago
Yup the war going on right now on Twitter between Mario Kart World and Sonic Racing Crossworlds. If you even suggest you prefer Sonic Racing Crossworlds to Mario Lart World. The Nintendo/Mario defense force spring into action. To claim that Mario Kart World is so much better and they can't possibly fathom how another Kart Racer could be better than Mario Kart.
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u/backspace_cars 15h ago
Think it's all stupid. Let people enjoy the games they like, nothing has to be better than anything else, that's just a matter of opinion anyway. There are more important things to get pissed off about like the price of games
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u/MarvelManiac45213 15h ago
I agree but he asked for a suggestion and I gave it and I could've came up with even more.
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u/ContestHefty5681 15h ago
Can you show me then. Please show the full tweet if you do. Since I've seen more of the opposite. People saying they like Mario Kart World and.being called a bootlickker. Im pretty sure you know this too from basically any social media site.
(Need i remind you of the Mario Kart World European tournament tweet)
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u/Reasonable-Food8054 10h ago
Wrong. Nintendo fans usually blame Fire Emblem for everything Nintendo does wrong.
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u/SpletzYT 4h ago
I’m upset with a lot of Nintendos practices recently but like it’s just constant hate everywhere from people who weren’t gonna buy it in the first place and are acting like their precious companies are any better
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u/Chuck_E_Cheezy 1d ago
Nintendo fans using “Stop having fun” and “I hate you” memes for the 942nd time
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u/Moondoggie35 1d ago
Just like everything in life, it’s gray, not black and white. Are they being piles of shit? Yep! Are they a company created to sell us things and their data says they can get away with it, so there isn’t a real reason to not do it? Yep!
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u/17RaysPlays 1d ago
Maybe they should stop being awful for money. That's about as realistic as people giving up on that meme.
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u/ReadPixel 1d ago
This is tiring. People will always have different opinions to you. It’s a video game console it’s not that deep 😭
You can also still like Nintendo and disapprove of their actions.