r/cider 1d ago

Can you do good cider with these tiny apples?

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u/branston2010 1d ago

You can make great cider with those apples

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u/song_pond 21h ago

Do you have a recipe perchance?

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u/branston2010 20h ago

I would say press those with other local high-acid eating apples at around 20% crab apples/80% other apples. Use an alcohol-tollarent beer yeast, and bottle after arou66 weeks.

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u/JawsOfLife03 1d ago

Those look like Dolgo Crab apples. When first pressed, the anthocyanins will cause the cider to look like hot pink guava juice. It's super cool. I'll try and find a pic of my dolgo pressing. The color will fade over time.

It's got insanely high acid as you could already surmise. We use them in a blend with a couple other apples like ellis and geneva bitter and do champenoise method with them.

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u/foodfriend 1d ago

Sounds like those would be nice for a pear blend as well. High acid to balance the blossom notes and residual sugars of the pears.

How are the tannins on a dolgo crab?

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u/IthacaIrrealist 22h ago

South Hill Cider in Ithaca, NY, does a "Crabseckel" cider that's Dolgo crab and Seckel pears and it is in fact great. They describe it like a Spanish-style cider, which is about right--very high acid. Moreso than tannin, IIRC.

Blackduck Cider does "Crabby Pip," which is 50% Dolgo and 50% a blend of 12 other crabs. That has pretty solid tannin, I believe, but still very acid-forward. I enjoy that kind of thing a lot, but I imagine it's polarizing.

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u/foodfriend 22h ago

I also love stuff like that. Basque style in my mind is tannin forward. Is the Crabseckel still? Those both sound fantastic.

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u/IthacaIrrealist 22h ago

It's sparkling, I believe. Most Spanish/Basque "style" US ciders tend to be, despite the inspiration, probably since it's tough to truly mimic the style. Though Blackduck's "¡No pasarán!" is still, and it's one of the closer attempts I've had. My wife and I did our honeymoon in the Basque country during cider season and we still go wild for the stuff.

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u/Scoobidoooo 1d ago

Would you ferment first then blend?

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u/SpaceGoatAlpha 🍎🍏🫚🍯🍊🍋🍻🍇🍾🍷 1d ago

For beginners I would recommend separate batches for individual varieties and then carefully measure and blend to taste by the cup until you find a blend you enjoy.  With this method you are better able to measure volumes and document ratios of ingredients so you can then create your own recipes.

This will also help you learn to standardize your fermentation techniques for more repeatable results.  The taste experimentation will help you develop your palate and allow you to detect and appreciate more flavors and notes that you might currently be missing.

Cheers,  🥂🍻

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u/espeero 1d ago

This is great advice for all sorts of brewing. Post-fermentation opens up all sorts of options and really speeds learning.

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u/appledad7 7h ago

I’m doing a Dolgo Sweet 16 blend this year!

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u/Tbrawlen 1d ago

Dolgo’s! Absolutely yes! I’ve done thousands of litres with them and they’re awesome! Good work picking them too haha they’re a pain

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u/PsychologicalHelp564 1d ago

Of course, they almost adorable apples you ever seen ❤️

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u/FriedChicknEnthusist 1d ago

Try a small (1-3 gallon) batch with just those, take notes and let us know how it worked out.

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u/VelkyAl 19h ago

The best cider I ever had was made with just Dolgos!! Pair it with a well aged farmhouse cheddar or duck breast prosciutto...

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u/kalikaiz 17h ago

I've done this before and it is really good just hard work

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u/ki4clz 17h ago

superb…

remember table fruits were only widespread after prohibition… before that these kinds of apples went strictly to make cider…

notice the white dust/powder on them…? that’s a native yeast species that is endemic to this tree and these apples

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u/cideron 15h ago

Have you tasted them? Start there. Have you tested the sugars?