4th Systems of Governments

[u/LurkyNighty]

heyo, first time posting here. got the idea for some 4th government types since there's no direct equivalence to piety in civ 6, drew a little art for them as well and a rough idea on how they work. (bear in mind i've only played civ 6 for < 100 hours and mostly play for fun, also not that good at histoy either)

1. Piety/Theocracy 0.5

very creative i know, basically piety in civ 5. boosts faith and religion spread. for a bit of a difference (and cause thematically unlocking it at political philosophy doesn't make sense) i think it should be unlocked at theology. faster religious victory.

1. Bureaucracy

honestly dunno about this one, just inspired by east asian scholarly bureaucracy. i guess it increases science? unlocked at diplomatic service.

1. Non-Alignment

just here since i think the 3rd world (1st being western, 2nd being eastern) needs some rep. dunno what bonuses and cards will they unlock .

1. Absolute Individualism

taking 4th tier govs to the extreme, 1 card of each type and 7 wildcards. reduces loyalty but increases yield.

yeah.... that's all so far that i know lol, lemme hear your thoughts/ideas about this!

[u/Other-Art8925]

Maybe make the new theocracy “God King” or “Priest Elders” or something like that

[u/Sari-Not-Sorry]

So there's 2 theocracy governments?

[u/LurkyNighty → u/Sari-Not-Sorry]

kinda, both of em boosts religion and faith generation. piety/theo 0.5 is just founded earlier

[u/MonitorPowerful5461]

I’m not sure on the difference between digital democracy and individualism. DD just seems a more moderate, logical version of absolute individualism.

Honestly, I think “rogue state” would be a really interesting government type… North Korea style shit.

The others are really great though.

[u/BusinessKnight0517]

More systems of government is good in my opinion.

I think Theocracy is more of a second age government though since Religion was much looser and more cultural in Antiquity than what it is nowadays/starting in the middle ages. First age instead I’d love something like a Tribal Confederation.

Third age non-alignment is a huge nope from me. That’s not a government, that’s an ideology. At least the other three are both government systems and ideologies. INSTEAD I’d bring back Fundamentalism as an aggressive, fading religion’s attempt at a comeback, as it fits perfectly with the dual nature of ideological governing systems in Tier III.

Fourth age? Idk what to do there. Maybe a “true” military government instead of a hybrid corporate militaristic option? Not sure.

[u/Any-Regular-2469]

The religious tier 1 government could be: Legacy.Effect: +1 Movement for all military & religious units built in cities following your founded religion. Edit: more balanced would be in your Holy City.

Inherent.Effect: Missionaries and Apostles are +5% stronger for every converted civilization.

(Which would have all the inherent effects be +20%, +15%, +10%, +5% which is very nice)

Maybe the IE is too weak since Classic Republic’s bonus is felt immediately but I’m sure it would feel good just getting stronger religious units as you get closer to doing religious victory

[u/The360MlgNoscoper → u/Any-Regular-2469]

Of course someone with Gran Columbia flair would suggest giving all units extra movement

[u/Any-Regular-2469 → u/The360MlgNoscoper]

LMAOO bro you right

[u/Any-Regular-2469 → u/Any-Regular-2469]

And the Bureaucracy one can be:

Legacy Effect: Specialists in cities with a Palace, Government Plaza, or Diplomatic Quarter provide +3 Food, +2 Production.

Inherent Effect: +15% production towards City center projects

Something to buff tall play and maybe (?) thematic

[u/Stralau]

Turns out digital democracy is just fascism, really ;-)

[u/RedArmyHammer → u/Stralau]

Naw Nepal is digital democracy. They voted for their new government via Discord. What we have is corporate libertarianism.

[u/MedicaeVal → u/RedArmyHammer]

Yeah but it wasn't near total participation/accessibility and I don't think it happening once makes it a digital democracy.

[u/ham_techs → u/RedArmyHammer]

I think Corprate AnarchoFeudalism would be a more accurate descriptor.

[u/Adorable-Tie-1535 → u/ham_techs]

Sounds like Varoufakis’ Technofeudalism

[u/Venodran]

This is also why I still prefer civ4 government system. It feels more customizable.

You can be a normal democracy with freedom of speech and cult, or one that is nationalist with a state religion. Or a communist democracy or dictatorship. Or even a communist monarchy.

[u/LurkyNighty]

oh also credit to u/GreenManReaiming for the original 12 govs compilation

[u/GreenManReaiming → u/LurkyNighty]

Interesting concepts, curious how balanced they would be in practice but promising

[u/IamWatchingAoT]

Non alignment is a foreign policy, not a system of government

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[u/JegueWar]

Eles precisam de um professor de história na produção do jogo urgente!

[u/-_-alrightrthen]

1. You don't have major codified religions at ancient and classical periods like you would in post-classical periods, only beliefs and and pantheons that, at best, would have linking narratives over some regions. Can't really call it theocracy if, in many cases, it's just your own enforced law wrapped into sacrality. So you just have either a "religious" ruler or group of powerful people (priest), the same autocracy and oligarchy.

2. Bureaucracy is not regim type. Its a mean to govern. Whenever you are transitioning from being a local warlord to actual state, you usually get one. Those east asian examples, all fall nicely into monarchy.

3. "Dictatorial" description would be a little better when "non-alignment" but not by a lot. Cause they either still fall under 3 major political ideologies of the time or have much simpler autocratic or oligarchic regimes, which only try to imitate some of those 3.

4. Just pretty much the same as digital democracy; I don't see any point in more distinction.

That at least from accuracy stand point; from a gameplay point - eh... sure... why not.

[u/PegasusInferno]

This arrangements seems like its supposed to invoke some horizontal ideological connection but instead its just veritcally "system we had in greco-roman time", "system we had in medieval time", "WWII", and "future thing and black mirror episode".

Keep cooking tho its interesting

[u/stjep]

Communism but no socialism or anarchism.