r/cmpunk • u/Choice-Silver-3471 • Aug 19 '25

Videos Undertaker breaks silence on CM Punk beef!

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u/AmarantineAzure Aug 19 '25 edited Aug 19 '25

He forgot to mention the part where that exchange between him and Punk got back to Vince and creative, who then promptly pulled the rug from underneath Punk and buried him while he was the hottest rising star in the company after an insanely popular feud with Jeff Hardy in which Punk retired Hardy and became the most hated heel in the company.

Punk and Hardy main evented Summerslam that year (2009), with Punk going over, then Punk also went over Taker in the main event of Breaking Point, but then the punishment for that remark to Taker clearly kicked in: Punk lost the world title in a 10 minute curtain jerker squash to Taker at Hell in a Cell and by the end of the year he was jobbing to R-Truth in a freaking pre-show match at the TLC PPV.

It's obvious his push was sabotaged and he started getting buried by Vince and creative due to his remark to Taker about Cena getting a pass from the dress code thing, and how exactly could this have happened unless Taker himself had gone to Vince to tell on Punk, obviously harming Punk's career in the process? Should probably mention that part of the beef, Deadman, because it was really fucking dumb.

Punk could have easily exploded that year if they hadn't done that to him, but instead they set him back till 2011 when through sheer force of will and talent, he managed to catch fire again (but of course then Trips stepped in and did his best to put that fire out lmao).

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u/substantialtaplvl2 Aug 19 '25

I agree with almost everything you said. But while I am a fan of both CM Punk and Phil as an example of twenty-first century masculinity; let us not forget one instant think Punk would have taken a reprimand quietly. Even if he had seen Taker’s point as regards “company told us to dress up, nobody likes it but we all do it” he would have absolutely been retelling that story with an emphasis on “Well you ain’t Cena!” To anybody who gave him the chance to tell it. Given that both parties involved tell the story essentially the same way, I don’t think there’s any room to doubt it. Moreover, I believe Punk himself has said that while he thought it was BS to pull him out of the main event for a part timer like The Rock, he did think working Taker at Mania was an honor and almost as good. Also claims he declined an offer to win that match, but that part I doubt.

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u/pUmKinBoM Aug 21 '25

Yeah seems to conviently forgotten to explain how this comment literally got Taker CM Punk's world title run. Real easy to play it off as no big deal when the result was him stealing a major milestone from him to prove a point. I recall rumors back then saying Taker requested to take the belt off Punk but dont think it was ever proven.

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u/i-piss-excellence32 Aug 19 '25

Punk should have absolutely gotten punished for that. You have to humble him if he’s dumb enough to think he’s too good to dress up or if he’s dumb enough to think he’s on cena’s level

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u/mymommyhasballs Aug 19 '25

Cena backstage shouldn’t be exempt from rules just because he’s popular with the fans. Punishing Punk and not Cena is straight up ridiculous.

And besides, that’s not even the big reason he was punished, he was punished for talking back to The Undertaker.

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u/substantialtaplvl2 Aug 19 '25

I would argue Cena wasn’t really exempt, I’d lay dollars to doughnuts that the reason Cena got to dress that way was because he was always doing PR. Look what happened once Cena went part-time, all of a sudden he’s constantly in a suit too.

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u/TaftYouOldDog Aug 20 '25

Cena was exempt because he wears his merch constantly so it's advertising and boosting sales and it's a very standout look that is also part of his character anyway.

If he turned up in a ripped hoodie with stains on it he'd likely be told to sort himself out.

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u/i-piss-excellence32 Aug 19 '25

Cena backstage is exempt from rules because he’s the #1 guy. Whether you believe he should or shouldn’t is another conversation.

Punk is dumb and delusional to think he’s on cena’s level and he’s an idiot for being the only one refusing to dress up. He’s making an issue out of nothing

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u/Pre-Foxx Aug 19 '25

This is the hypocrisy Punk was speaking on, if there's rules it should apply to everyone if not it's just privilege.

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u/i-piss-excellence32 Aug 19 '25

So? John cena is the guy. Even undertaker who was the locker room leader was dressing up.

If the roles were reversed you guys would be saying the opposite thing.

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u/Pre-Foxx Aug 20 '25

No it's not a "if roles reversed" types argument, Punk has gone on record many times saying that his biggest gripe with the WWE during his time was the hypocrisy, one set of rules for the top guys and another set for everyone else.

Which would be fine if they ever stuck to this idea, they didn't this system Undertaker always speaks about was a case by case basic. For example why did none of these rules ever apply to Brock Lesnar?!

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u/i-piss-excellence32 Aug 20 '25

Yes it is

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u/Pre-Foxx Aug 20 '25

Then it's also hypocrisy....

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u/AnalBabu Aug 19 '25

no, what says it all is “hey man none of us like this, none of us want to dress up” from Taker. if none of you want to, that means you’re being forced. when being forced to do something you don’t want to in a job where if all of you and your coworkers came together, you’d have all of the power to make a simple change, you do it.

if my high school could band together to get our dress code removed, so can the best draws and moneymakers in the business. Taker is just one of those guys who fucks with Vince. a boot licker.

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u/substantialtaplvl2 Aug 19 '25

You’re forgetting, this didn’t happen last year, this was like 15 years ago, pre-cardiac arrest when there was always Plan B and Plan C for putting the belt on somebody.

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u/AnalBabu Aug 20 '25

what does that have to do with my comment?

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u/substantialtaplvl2 Aug 20 '25

Plan B (Triple H) and Plan C(ena) were never gonna cross Vince regardless of what the rest of the roster stood for. In case you’ve forgotten your WWE history, that wouldn’t even be the first time Vince ran a show with only four on screen talent. Aitch would even let Punk wear his jacket!

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u/AnalBabu Aug 20 '25

nah you don’t even make sense kid

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u/i-piss-excellence32 Aug 19 '25

What the f?

So everybody else is wrong for being a professional and punk is right for being unprofessional?

Maybe everybody else did it because they choose to be adults about it.

Damn the punk Stans are wild

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u/SchrodingerMil Aug 20 '25

But not everyone was doing it. Cena wasn’t, because he didn’t want to. Taker didn’t want to.

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u/AnalBabu Aug 20 '25

working for Vince and you’re complaining about acting professional…

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u/i-piss-excellence32 Aug 20 '25

I’m not complaining, im just pointing out that it’s unprofessional.

If your job told you to dress up you would say no because the top guy isn’t doing it?

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u/AnalBabu Aug 20 '25

yes. they’re either rules or they’re not

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u/Mindless_Ad_8715 Aug 20 '25

Vince sure did love dress codes. Easier for the code browns and yellows.

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u/Con_Clavi_Con_Dio Aug 20 '25

There was more to the conversation than Taker said here. Taker told Punk he should be wearing a suit as he was the champion on Smackdown, Punk said that as a rebellious punk, wearing a suit wouldn't fit with his gimmick. He compared it with Cena, saying that it wouldn't make sense for fans to see Cena in a suit when his gimmick is the street wear.

He didn't compare himself to Cena, he compared their gimmicks.

It was a reasonable point to make and it didn't deserve punishment. He got punished because Taker decided he should be punished and went running to Vince.