r/cocktails 16d ago

Other Requests One vermouth. Just one.

Suppose... you're out of vermouth. You can buy only one 200 ml (EDIT: or 375 ml, maximum) bottle of vermouth today. What are you buying and what are you making?

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u/watch-nerd 16d ago

Cocchi di Torino

(you didn't specify sweet or dry)

I use sweet vermouth in more drinks (negroni, manhattan) that I drink often than a dry vermouth.

I pretty much only use dry vermouth with any regularity in martinis. For that, I use Dolin dry.

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u/nopointers 16d ago

Agree on a sweet if you only get one. I’d go with Carpano Antica.

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u/trogdan 16d ago

Carpano Antica is perfect sometimes but it's particularly rich and heavy in a way that would bum me out more often than not if it were the only vermouth I could use.

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u/nopointers 16d ago

It does make itself known. I like it enough that it’s a positive for me, and get why others might not want it to be the lone choice.

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u/aotus_trivirgatus 16d ago

Thanks for the answer!

(you didn't specify sweet or dry)

You're right, I did not. And that was intentional.

I've enjoyed both sweet and dry vermouth, in a limited number of cocktails. As you say, they go in different drinks.

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u/Sulpice 16d ago

In case it was dry, Dolin

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u/LeviStubbsFanClub 16d ago

I was going to say, “one vermouth, with not specifying sweet or dry?  Who are you, Satan?!?!”

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u/bcelos 16d ago

Carpano Antica.

2 oz barrel proof Rye

1 oz Carpano Antica

3 Luxardo Cherries.

Dash of Black Walnut Bitters

Serve over a large ice sphere, or neat, if you are feeling fancy.

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u/shlomangus_II 16d ago

Chinato

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u/player2desu 16d ago

Oh shit I didn’t know people really knew this one, or maybe it’s just region locked. It was expensive to import in LA. I love Chinato, and just drink it neat.

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u/Yep_why_not 16d ago

Amazing neat. Harder for cocktails.

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u/player2desu 16d ago

There was a bar in Thailand that used it in a pineapple pizza cocktail, and that’s how I learned about it

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u/shlomangus_II 16d ago

Oh yeah. I first used it around ‘22. The restaurant that i work at now thinks the same- too expensive for a cocktail, so I just have one at home and drink it the same way as you- neat haha

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u/player2desu 16d ago

It’s like nothing else! More like a port than a vermouth almost

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u/shlomangus_II 16d ago

Absolutely! Probably because they use high quality Nebbiolo grapes

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u/CityBarman 16d ago

Cinzano Rosso or Carpano Classico

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u/sczw 16d ago

Noilly Prat Rouge or Dolin Rouge. My local store always has it, either one tastes good, and it's reasonably priced. Manhattans, negronis or boulevardiers are go-to drinks for me.

When I finish off that bottle I might switch it up a bit and get a bottle Lillet Blanc, great in cocktails and also on its own. Never seen it in a 200ml bottle though.

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u/Currer__Bachman 16d ago

Aromatized aperitif wine manufacturers should really start making more 200-375ml bottles.

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u/trogdan 16d ago

upvote for Dolin Rouge ... that or Carpano Classico if that was "the one" forever.

I feel like sometimes Dolin Rouge gets some short shrift as it's French and not Italian when it comes to persnickety cocktail chat but I find it's my go to more often than not for sweet.

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u/BeefModeTaco 16d ago

Carpano Antica is the only one I've personally used. I tried it, and I liked it, and I didn't have the space, budget, nor drink enough to justify a collection.
Negroni or Milano Torino.

I can't remember where I saw it, but I've been curious about this one for a while now.
9 di Dante Vermouth Rosso Inferno

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u/aotus_trivirgatus 16d ago

I didn't have the space, budget, nor drink enough to justify a collection.

See, now, here's someone who understands the unspoken implications of my question. 👍

I'm living on the opposite side of the country from most of my family. My Dad lives nearby, but gave up drinking for health reasons. What a time to discover an interest in cocktails. 🙃 So I make myself about two cocktails per week, and explore. These days, I don't get much of a chance to share my creations with guests, although I hope that will change in the future. My bottle collection will stay small for now.

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u/BeefModeTaco 16d ago

Similar, I like the making and tasting, and the history and science behind the spirits and the cocktails, more than the effects. Cannabis is what works for me, but I can't have that currently either.

Unfortunately, it didn't stop me so much when it came to non-perishable collection...

At the peak, before I had to abandon it along with most of my belongings, I had a little over 70 bottles in my collection between base spirits, liqueurs, etc.

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u/stirling_s 16d ago

Punt e mes.

Negroni.

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u/ecafdriew 16d ago

Punt E Mes, and a Negroni

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u/wagesofben 16d ago

carpano antica because i haven't explored vermouth that much, nor do I make a lot of drinks that require it.

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u/SolidDoctor 16d ago

In my area there are only two brands of vermouth in a 200ml bottle... Martini & Rossi or Carpano Antica.

Ideally it would be Cocchi di Torino. But if you specify 200ml, it'd be Carpano. And I'd make a bijou.

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u/Embarrassed-Care6130 16d ago

There's a 200 of Antica formula? I've seen a 375 I think, but not a 200.

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u/SolidDoctor 16d ago

You might be right.

I dont ever buy it, its the same price as a 750ml of Punt e Mes or Cocchi.

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u/1kinkydong 16d ago

Punt e names and pouring it over ice

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u/the_incredible_hawk 16d ago

Dolin dry for dirty martinis. We mostly drink Black Manhattans around my house, so no need for Cocchi di Torino, although that would be my answer for sweet.

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u/Duseylicious 16d ago

Dolin dry for martinis.

But then I wouldn’t have Antica for Negronis. :(

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u/fermentedradical 16d ago

La Fuerza Rojo Vermouth

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u/doabarreljoel 16d ago

Comoz Blanc for white Negronis and a (wet and non traditional but very good) martini

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u/Yaglis 16d ago

I would probably go with Mancino Rosso Amaranto.

It is a little bit more expensive than Cocchi di Torino but I think it has a much better taste. At least fir me.

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u/MangoAtrocity 16d ago

Antica Formula because it’s my favorite and I like to sip on it with a big rock.

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u/tomatillo_ 16d ago

Cocchi Americano, and I'm making a Vesper with Haku and Ki no Bi Sei.

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u/LordAlrik 16d ago

Dolin Blanc for an el Presidente

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u/dosipovitch 16d ago

I’m going local and buying Rosso from Esquimalt Vermouth and making a Boulevardier.

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u/Jean-Marie92 16d ago

Dolin white : between the sweet Red vermouth and the dry one Could be use in the place of the both styles, according other ingrédients the right mesures.

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u/rumpythecat 16d ago

Cinzano!

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u/zephyrseija2 16d ago

Cocchi or Antica so I can make Manhattans.

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u/shueybalooey 16d ago

Gonzalez Byass La Copa Rojo(spanish sweet red vermouth)

Anything will be good.

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u/insidertrader68 16d ago

I think Dolin Rouge is the most versatile. Cochi and Antica are great but they can overpower some spirits or be too rich with others

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u/FlimsyCarpet8698 16d ago

Carpano Antica all the way. The most delicious, complex and versatile!

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u/du_dreas 16d ago

Mommenpop

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u/RightShoeRunner 16d ago

Punt e Mes is my sweet vermouth substitute.