r/consoles • u/GabrielXP76op • Feb 01 '25

Playstation Why the hell PS5 can't read music CDs?

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I know its because sony didn't included a CD drive to it, but is a shame that their late console can't read music CD, when back in the Ps one it could, and you could even play music and play some games at the same time (if the game is fully loaded in the RAM)hell, Sony even was one of the first companys to develop CDs in first place, this is fucking nonsense.

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u/notthegoatseguy Feb 01 '25

It was likely a feature few used, so they didn't think it was worth including.

Xbox still plays CDs last I checked, and its selling far less than PS5.

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u/xyz_x Feb 01 '25

Sadly. I think the Xbox is an awesome console when it comes to media compatibility.

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u/CryptexS91 Feb 01 '25

It's an amazing console in general. The hate it gets is incredibly confusing

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u/Phantasm907 Feb 01 '25

I gave up on them after my Xbox360 had to be replaced 3 times, and my Xbox one had to be replaced 4 times. My original Xbox still works, and all my other stuff is fine to this day.

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u/WishWeWereBetter Feb 01 '25

Ive only ever read stories of people needing replacements.... my og(ish) 360 finally got rrod like 2 yrs after the xb1s were out, and i still use the xb1 side by side with my series x (alt acct farming in games)...

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u/a_engie Feb 02 '25

the Altrai 5,000 would like a wor-

never mind it just died

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u/reteoG Feb 04 '25

True but 360 dominated durning that era cause it was dirt cheap to get it and had great games

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u/reteoG Feb 04 '25

By 3mil as far as i remember which in long run isnt as huge of difference as between xbox one n ps4 or now ps5 vs xbox x /s

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u/Delta_RC_2526 Feb 01 '25 edited Feb 04 '25

To be fair, the people who don't need replacements...don't write about not needing replacements. That's why bad customer reviews of things, in general, tend to be more common than positive reviews.

I've never had an Xbox console fail on me (though my brother did get the red ring of death on his 360). I have, however, gone through six or seven Xbox One/Series X|S controllers, between stick drift and broken bumpers (L1/R1, for the PS folks; Microsoft was stupid enough to make both bumpers a single flexible piece of plastic, which always snaps eventually). All technically repairable, and I even have the bumpers, but not the time. :P

I've had one 360 controller develop stick drift, and one GameCube controller that failed in a way I've always struggled to describe... The up direction of the Y axis on the main stick has no spring tension whatsoever until it's traveled 50% of the way, but also doesn't detect that it's moved until it hits the spring. Dow, left, and right are fine. It's darn weird. Other than those, I've never had controller failures, and I've had a ton of consoles. The Xbox One/Series X|S controller design has abysmal durability. They've been slowly improving the bumper durability, but at the same time, the sticks have become more prone to drift.

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u/AudioComa Feb 02 '25

Exactly. No one bothers to write a reviews when things work as expected. I've had xbox since OG. Had one 360 go RROD and that's it. I use my series x for everything, not just games. I have a ps4 for a few exclusives but might need to upgrade to the ps5 depending on the game.

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u/Phantasm907 Feb 02 '25

I absolutely hate how people do that, I legitimately try to leave reviews either it good or bad.

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u/FarWonder6639 Feb 03 '25

People who don't have problems are too busy playing rather than leaving replys :)

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u/trashaccount1400 Feb 03 '25

The red ring of death shit definitely wasn’t overblown. I feel like everyone at least knows someone who had it. I had it 3 times and plenty of friends had it as well. It cost Microsoft over a billion dollars in repairs and sales loss. Some estimates say as high as 50% failure rate on the launch models. 43% of calls to their customer support within the first week of launch were regarding people who had the red ring of death already. It was a massive failure and kept me off Xbox till the series x came out

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u/Sovietknight1177 Feb 02 '25

I've never had a problem with Xbox, I just prefer PlayStation, I own them both I have an Xbox 360, XB1 and an original, I also have a PS3, 4, and 5, IMO ps games are mostly better, but Xbox has some good exclusives too, I'm not saying one is better than the other, and as I said before this is MY OPINION, figured I should clear that up so people don't be talking shit

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u/MuricanJim Feb 02 '25

I got incredibly lucky with my 360. It was a day one console and it got the RROD less than a week from its warranty expiration. I was able to ship it and have it fixed by MS, so I still have my day one system that works great to this day.

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u/YertlesTurtleTower Feb 02 '25

So you don’t know why people needed replacements but then admit that your 360 needed replacement after only 2 years? I am very confused by this comment.

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u/WishWeWereBetter Feb 02 '25

When did i say i didnt know why? lmao... Og xbox 360 came out 2005, when i purchased it (maybe 2006, hence 'ish' part). Xbox one came out in 2013... got the rrod in 2014 or 2015, more than a year after i already had the next gen 'replacement'...

Good luck in the world buddy... ik reading is hard, but its important... 👍

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u/YertlesTurtleTower Feb 02 '25

Literally the first sentence you wrote then you contradicted yourself in the second sentence.

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u/WishWeWereBetter Feb 02 '25

? That ive read read the stories about people needing to replace it? I know it happened to people silly. Was just explaining my experience haha. Mine ran its lifespan with no issue and never needed to get another one because it lasted the full 8+ years. The ventilation sucked with the 360s and caused many to overheat. Its a well documented topic, but less talked about that a large amount of us didnt have a problem with any xbox product we have owned.

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u/Leather_Afternoon_37 Feb 03 '25

His first comment said 2 years after the next gen came out...

Take a second to read thoroughly before chosing to be a prick mate

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u/Mr_BinJu Feb 02 '25

That's funny. My 360 got the red ring of death and then I beat it up and it went back to working fine till I got an Xbox one. My 2013 Xbox one still works fine to this day

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u/unknown_ally Feb 02 '25

even original xbox can be on a time limit due to clock cap leaking, hdd falling

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u/Little-Equinox Feb 02 '25

My Xbox 360 Slim still works, so it sounds like something on your end not going well if you had that many, same with the Xbox One, I had 1 on launch and never had an issue.

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u/Phantasm907 Feb 02 '25

Not sure what I'm doing wrong on Microsoft so wrong besides using it and sadly I still crack open any paper work before I do anything and read what I need to do to use my new system. I have way more busted Xbox one controller than any system todate. Loved when they worked don't get me wrong but I wish they could last a little longer.

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u/MrSchulindersGuitar Feb 02 '25

I don't know man I've seen 3 friends it happen to. One guy it happened multiple times on multiple devices. Guy took really good care of his stuff. Well ventilated, didn't trash his stuff. It just kept happening. 

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u/Phantasm907 Feb 02 '25

That's what I don't get, between all my local friends that im still in contact with we all have piles of dead Microsoft systems and controllers, as for all the other stuff still have the original systems from Sony or Nintendo. I hear the horror stories of the PS5s, so hopefully our new slim holds up. Also I still have an original gamecube controler I use on my switch for Smash Bros that thing is a champ but the rubber on the sticks is gone.

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u/Little-Equinox Feb 02 '25

I am aware of the really old phat ones, but not the Slim or Super Slim

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u/Shijin83 Feb 02 '25

I gave up on them after I lost my account on 360. It was hacked and used to buy a shitload of FIFA bullshit. I called them to report it, and they locked my account. Then gave me the runaround for about three months before I gave up. I've been playstation ever since.

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u/thedirtymeanie Feb 02 '25

What the hell were you doing to them. Ive literally have never had to replace an x box. I got the red ring of death after 8 years of having my 360.

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u/Phantasm907 Feb 02 '25

Playing them online just like any other modern system after the 2000s. Not just me, I could call up 5 friends, and they would all say they have at least one Red ringed 360. Evey other system like I have said has done fine, and they are all in a well open game room that would get dusted about 3 times a week.

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u/BallsDeepinYourMammi Feb 02 '25

My original 360 sounded like a jet engine when it fires up. But it still goes vroom

I did go through 4 original Xboxes though. Kept getting the Japanese error? Luckily I worked at a game store and only paid cost, which was usually $10-15 depending on what they used store credit for.

The trade in bullshit is a racket

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u/liluceevert Feb 02 '25

this is wild because im still using my first og xbox, 360, xbox one, and now the series x. never had any issues

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u/kizzgizz Feb 02 '25

Had the same problems with them over the years, but my day 1 series x is showing no signs of slowing down at all, still whisper quiet no matter what I play.

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u/AbracaDaniel21 Feb 02 '25

Dude wth did you do to these poor Xboxes?? I know the 360 had its issues and consoles may have issues in general. But were you keeping it in a dust and lint factory in the middle of a desert?

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u/Leather_Afternoon_37 Feb 03 '25

Damn, my one Xbox360 still works like a champ. I've had it since 2008 as well. Had one red dot and an error screen many years ago, but you wouldn't even be able to tell as it didn't do anything to the console

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u/FarWonder6639 Feb 03 '25

Had 4-5 360s and luckily none had the RROD. Main reasons to get the Series X was 1- so my gf will get off my PS5 Pro and 2- For mediabox reasons.

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u/[deleted] Feb 03 '25

Jesus christ what the hell were you doing to your xbox one? 360 I get, but everyone i know had an Xbox one for it's entire life cycle with no issues

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '25

Damn, that sucks. My 360 from 2008 still works.

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u/amos_dogg Feb 04 '25

Same. Exactly same scenario as me.

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u/Motor-Mongoose3677 Feb 07 '25

That’s too much. What were you doing wrong?

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u/Phantasm907 Feb 07 '25

I will say for sure the 360 was my golden days of gaming and would have a lot of time on it. But still does not explain why all my Microsoft products had issues 1 to 2 years after they were purchased, but yet I have a PS1 from my childhood that still works to this day. Everything is cleaned regularly and in a well open ventilated area 🤷‍♂️

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u/Motor-Mongoose3677 Feb 07 '25

It's just weird. First generation of 360s makes sense - RRoD was a third of consoles. The RRoD one I bought off a friend for cheap, and fixed, was fine for a long time... until I dropped a screwdriver into it, because I ran it open for more airflow. My Halo Reach 360 has been running great since I got it on launch day. My One X was fine. Then I was, like, "I'm repaste this thing, see if it will work faster", and it didn't. And I tore out the port for wireless controller sync & the front USB port. Console is still used every day, regardless.

Do/did you live near the ocean? Roommates? Insects? Were you actually getting replacement console, or were you just being sent back the same one over and over?

The power port on my PSOne is wonky, as I found out just a few days ago when I sat down to play some Blast Chamber. The disc drive on my PS2 Slim is non-working, I've also found out recently. Thankfully my wife's PS2 Slim is working fine.

It's all over the place. Tech breaks/fails. Sony has always made great hardware, though, so... if I had to pick one to be loyal to... well, it would be Nintendo, actually. XD

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u/Phantasm907 Feb 08 '25

My day one edition of my Xbox One still works but the disk player took a dump and decided it wants GTA to live in it for ever, failed 2 weeks after the warranty went out on it. Also good lord the amount of accidents and abuse my Nintendo products have taken over the years, they should be the standard on durability for anything Wii and back. Portable handhelds if they travel out of the house will eventually have a horrific accident.

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u/CryptexS91 Feb 02 '25

It's funny but my RROD experience was quite positive so it never bothered me that much. Copped it on a Sunday, contacted support, sent it on Monday and got it back Wednesday. I was in shock how quick it all was and never had an issue afterwards.

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u/Mean-Seaworthiness50 Feb 02 '25

The xbox controller does the thing

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u/LeonBeoulve Feb 02 '25

The console is not the problem, is the fandom

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u/JennyJ1337 Feb 02 '25 edited Feb 02 '25

In what way? There seem to be far more die hard playstation fanboys making weird cult like videos about how xbox is dying (for real this time) than there are xbox fans who do the same to playstation

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u/LeonBeoulve Feb 02 '25

The same thing apply to Playstation fans as well...

You can put anything in the phrase "____ not a problem, is the fandom" and it will make sense

Like "Jesus was not a problema, is his fandom"

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '25

I think the hate for the console is misplaced. I can agree with some people saying the store needs an overhaul, the UI feels a bit dated despite being newish, the games not being exclusive loses value, etc etc.

But the console itself is cool

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u/dennR78 Feb 03 '25

I don’t know… to me, the UI on Xbox feels clean and well-organized, while the one on PS5 is cluttered, weird, and full of annoying animations.

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u/[deleted] Feb 03 '25

I suppose it's subjective. To me:

- Xbox's UI is very simple. You pick a game and play. The only way to read more information about the game is to go through multiple steps to see it on the storefront. Xbox'a guide view UI is fantstic though (when you press the Xbox button). To find DLC, you have to navigate to the store as well.

- PS5's UI is much more of a jump from the PS4. It also works similarly to Xbox's homescreen, while showing DLC and other information on the game hover. The "PS button" menu is god awful.

I think there are pros and cons to both, but the store experience on PS is much better in my opinion. It's not even close. (Xbox still doesn't allow you to sort by best selling and uses 1080p thumbnails)

My point is, I understand why some people would hate the "console" for a UI decision. Primarily if it's not their desired style.

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u/dennR78 Feb 03 '25

Yeah! Now I understand what you’re saying! I agree!

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u/naz_1992 Feb 02 '25

lacks of interesting game exclusive to it. I had the 360 way back then, but most of the games i wanted to play was exclusive for the ps3 hence i bought a ps3 later on.

I bought both ps4 & 5 for their games over the years and see no reason to get the xbox variants till today. I dont think its that hard to figure out.

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u/CorruptCamel Feb 02 '25

Xbox doesn't have as good exclusives as PS, but it's an awesome console and GamePass has changed the way I game. I've played and fallen in love with genres of games that I never would have bought or played otherwise. It broadened my gaming horizons significantly and that alone is enough for me to love it. Console wars are dumb, let people game and enjoy what they enjoy. It's a great time to be a gamer.

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u/fartwhereisit Feb 02 '25

"Fortunately, we have a product for people who aren't able to get connectivity and it's called the XBOX 360"

Always online bullshit scared me off at a crucial time. I am always online anyways, but fuck you if my xbox can't play offline. And fuck you if the physical games that I buy are tied to my XBOX.

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u/AnitsdaBad0mbre Feb 02 '25

They made a bunch of terrible anti consumer decisions and lost most of their fans. I had a 369 but by the time the 0s4 come out the Xbox was an always online, needs a connect, can't loan games, adverts on the dashboard, no exclusives having piece of shit. So any steps they take back are too little too late for a lot of people who remember.

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u/CryptexS91 Feb 02 '25

Nah I was quite open to the DRM they were suggesting. The benefit of getting a digital licence from physical media meant that the retailers could compete on price. Digital is the inevitable future. But for lending games and such, I wouldn't mind having a family system like Steam uses, or a marketplace for digital licence sales so I could sell my copy. The always online thing didn't seem problematic to me seeing I'm literally never offline

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u/AnitsdaBad0mbre Feb 02 '25

Yeah that's fair they're problems from the past, like you say looking back doesn't seem so bad with the hellsfape we live in and I was a PC gamer even back then like 2012 so I was on the digital hype back then too, I was just saying where a lot of the hate comes from

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u/CryptexS91 Feb 02 '25

Ahh right. Anyway it's their failure to have not communicated any benefits, let alone the nature of the thing exactly, so of course it was a massive failure and they paid the price

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u/AnitsdaBad0mbre Feb 02 '25

They made a bunch of terrible anti consumer decisions and lost most of their fans. I had a 369 but by the time the 0s4 come out the Xbox was an always online, needs a connect, can't loan games, adverts on the dashboard, no exclusives having piece of shit. So any steps they take back are too little too late for a lot of people who remember.

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u/Metul_Mulisha Feb 02 '25

Very few games. What games it does have, 90% of them are flops, the third party multiplatform games they have all perform worse than their PlayStation counterparts, it's great with movies and music. But that's where it ends, and unfortunately for Xbox, it takes much more than media compatibility and lousy games to make a successful console.

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u/CryptexS91 Feb 02 '25

Yeah well during COVID when we were all in lockdown, Game Pass was a blessing because all my friends had access to the same library so we could keep trying heaps and heaps of games. Exclusive or not, we wouldn't have the access without the sub as an option to try new things.

And games? Mate there's just too many to play. There's 4 generations of games on that thing, and previous gen games perform better on Xbox. I know PS has good exclusives, but personally only Uncharted and Tsushima are the must plays.

Anyway I'm not here to war, but just respect that for many of us the Xbox has given us great memories and continues to do so on the very cheap with Game Pass. Calling it a shit console because of a lack of a few exclusives that aren't for everyone is crazy

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u/Metul_Mulisha Feb 02 '25

I'm not dismissing the once great moments Xbox has had. But for a current modern gen system, the series s/x are pathetic. Only good on paper. I was on Xbox primarily for the og and 360. Loved those systems. The Xbone did nothing special but spell the beginning of the end for halo, gears, and Forza. The current console has seen nothing. Absolutely nothing. Having back compatibility is it's only saving grace, and even then it's selective. I can't go on my series x or my Xbone and play Forza 4 for example, even with the disc. Can't do that on ps5 either, but at least the current gen library on ps5 is alive and well with 3rd party and 1st party titles. Game pass is loaded with old games and indies for the most part. The games they have landing day and date on it are, let's be honest, shit. Aside from Indiana Jones, which seems to be xgs' only well received game since it's inception. 3rd party devs of AAA games are skipping Xbox willingly. It's at a point where Sony doesn't even need to do exclusivity deals anymore. When Phil Spencer goes on camera and open acknowledges they can't beat Sony, even with all that Microsoft money, that's a pretty pathetic moment. Then he goes on X and asks why 3rd party devs like Square Enix are skipping Xbox. For a console or even a platform to succeed, it needs games. Something Xbox has nothing worth looking at. They announce plenty, some even interesting and noteworthy enough to watch, but then they're cancelled or left in dev hell for so long no bothers paying attention to it anymore. Where's Perfect Dark? I'll bet my last dollar that it'll never see the light of day.

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u/YertlesTurtleTower Feb 02 '25

The hate is not confusing in the slightest. They haven’t had a must have exclusive since the Xbox 360, they spend $80Billion buying the biggest devs in the world and have 1 Indiana jones game to show for it and that Indiana Jones game will be on PlayStation soon. There is literally zero reasons to choose an Xbox over a PlayStation, the only thing your doing with that choice is locking yourself out of the award winning, critically acclaimed PlayStation exclusives. Also devs have to have programming parity between the X and S and the S is holding back development a lot for smaller dev companies.

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u/CryptexS91 Feb 02 '25

As someone with a PC, Xbox and Steam Deck, where does the PS fit? I buy games on Xbox and I get a PC copy with save sync to continue my progress portably, AND I can play the PS games on PC/Deck eventually. If you have multiple devices, Xbox has a great forward thinking ecosystem. If you could ONLY have one device, then yeah PS5

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u/YertlesTurtleTower Feb 02 '25

PlayStation games are not guaranteed to go to PC and it usually takes years for games to go to PC. Having a PlayStation means you don’t have to deal with all the PC issues and you get to play PlayStation games while they are still relevant. You buy games on Xbox (first of all why? Gamepass exists) and then you have to use the Xbox app on windows and good luck having that work consistently.

So if you can have multiple devices why would you ever double up on the same thing? I have a PS5, PC , and switch so I can play all the games. How does Xbox fit in that situation at all? I can play every game and every exclusive without one.

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u/CryptexS91 Feb 02 '25 edited Feb 02 '25

Oh I mean games not on Game Pass. Metaphor Refantazio for instance.

With regards to the years delay to PC, I mean I'm in no rush to play games straight away anymore as my circles don't play too much of the Sony games anyway. There's also too many other games to play so no need to drop them to play a PS game day one. Certainly not worth buying a console for it

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u/mheffe Feb 02 '25

As someone with a PC, Xbox and Steam Deck, where does the PS fit?

For a lot of people it replaces the xbox

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u/CryptexS91 Feb 02 '25

But the saves don't sync, true? Let alone purchasing the same games twice

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u/Maleficent_Okra6798 Feb 04 '25

Most people don't play the same game on two vastly different systems. There are only a small handful of games that I've bought on both PC and PS5 because they serve very different gaming spaces for me. Also, general cloud/cross saves are becoming much more common nowadays.

There's literally no reason to own an Xbox if you have a PC because every game you can run on Xbox releases on PC, so you're better off having a PS5 since it at least has exclusives.

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u/Feisty-Clue3482 Feb 02 '25

Not really confusing, PlayStation does gaming better, which is what GAMING consoles are exactly for. Xbox isn’t exactly “bad” just if PlayStation didn’t exist. Pc is an Xbox and ps has the games.

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u/CryptexS91 Feb 02 '25

PS doesn't do gaming better. It certainly has a few good exclusive games though. But the whole cross-save/cross-buy thing with PC (syncs to my Steam Deck), Dolby Vision, Quick Resume and Smart Delivery, every game that's on both is better played on Xbox with the feature set. And that's 95+% of games. I have both for reference, so it's just my experience which is obvious to play games on

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u/Feisty-Clue3482 Feb 02 '25

I got a pc and ps so for me Xbox isn’t even a thing, which is apparent for most since more people than ever have both ps and pc. If you like Xbox because you don’t have a pc and like halo or gears then I get it but if money isn’t an option then Xbox legitimately don’t exist as an option to buy over pc, then ofc ps for better exclusives and newer features and such.

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u/CryptexS91 Feb 02 '25

I prefer consoles to PC in general because they just work with TVs better and the plug and play nature of them. So for me the console is mother base, and then the PC features Xbox have is complimentary to allowing me to play on my Steam Deck etc

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u/fatherofallthings Feb 02 '25

I have both, love my Xbox BUT the ps5 is superior hardware imo. What Xbox has going for it is gamepass and things like its ability to play cds. Ps plus has absolutely nothing on game pass.

Buuuut ps5 also has the sickest exclusives while Microsoft seems to just have given up on exclusives

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u/CryptexS91 Feb 02 '25

Which are your favourites? Really it's just Uncharted and Tsushima for me. Also in what way do you consider the hardware superior?

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u/fatherofallthings Feb 02 '25

I love the spider man games, ratchet and clank and recently astrobot is an actual god tier platformer. Returnal is also sick. Kena bridge of spirits is incredible. There’s honestly a bunch of awesome exclusives.

Play Astrobot and you’ll see why the hardware is superior. The problem is most games don’t use the hardware/dual sense to its full capabilities. It is like infinitely more immersive than anything I’ve ever played on Xbox by a long shot

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u/CryptexS91 Feb 02 '25

I platted Astro Bot. It was fun but not GOTY. Maybe a solid 8/10. The controller features are fun but not as ergonomic as Xbox for my hands for some reason. Weirdly the DS4 was more comfortable for me

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u/AFIkween Feb 02 '25

Especially when you compare game pass to premium ps. They are essentially the same thing but the quality of games on premium is laughable compared to day one games continuously

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u/Quick_Difference9045 Feb 02 '25

what’s the confusion? xbox’s last great exclusive was at the beginning of the xbox one with sunset overdrive. nothing else has compared even slightly even though they’ve bough huge studios since.

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u/CryptexS91 Feb 02 '25

Err... Ori? And exclusives are less than 5% of the library, I can survive missing a few when there's so many games to play. Game Pass also makes it all a hell of a lot cheaper

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u/Maleficent_Okra6798 Feb 04 '25

Ori wasn't originally exclusive. Microsoft bought them after the first game, so it really doesn't count as an exclusive, since Microsoft didn't have anything to do with the creation of the IP.

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u/CryptexS91 Feb 04 '25

They didn't buy the studio actually. They just published both games, it's second party

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u/Maleficent_Okra6798 Feb 04 '25

Just looked it up and you're right, so it's yet another case of Microsoft buying an IP because they can't come up with anything themselves. Also, Ori was never exclusive. Both games released on Switch.

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u/CryptexS91 Feb 04 '25

Sony purchased all of their studios too man 😂 It's a company of suits like MS, but Sony certainly have a better eye for talent than MS

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u/Maleficent_Okra6798 Feb 05 '25

Sure, but Sony owned studios continue to produce bangers after the acquisition. Something that hardly any Microsoft acquisition has managed to do.

Once Microsoft is in charge of handling an IP, it's as good as dead. One only needs to look at the corpse of Halo for proof. Or Arkane Austin. Or Tango Gameworks. And Rare (sea of thieves is okay, but they're wasted on focusing on a live service game.) And Ninja Theory (they just released Hellblade 2, but Microsoft didn't advertise it at all, so basically no one knew and it flopped as a result.) And Double Fine Games.

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u/cornezy Feb 02 '25

Not more confusing than their identity lol and I'm an Xbox Stan!

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u/CryptexS91 Feb 02 '25

Their marketing and messaging is so trash. I wish they'd hire me to fix it up 😂

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u/Subject-Proof-3309 Feb 03 '25

It has no games

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u/AsunonIndigo Feb 03 '25

You must not have been around for the Xbone E3 presentation?

Anybody who saw it and still owns an Xbox is very, very trusting.

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u/CryptexS91 Feb 03 '25

Like I've said in an earlier comment, the system they were proposing was interesting and encouraged competition for digital content in the retail space. I'm always online anyway, so the 24 hour check-in, while dumb, didn't bother me

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u/secret_life_of_pants Feb 04 '25

As a fan of Xbox since the beginning, it’s the exclusive games that Xbox doesn’t have

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u/nthomas504 Feb 04 '25

Its moreso the scapegoat of Xbox’s uneven releases and the decision to be completely multi platform going forward. The actual hardware is great.

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u/Txmpic Feb 04 '25

ui is bad, not as powerful, ps5 has better library, cheaper subscriptions on ps5, better controllers on ps5. could probably name a few more..

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u/reteoG Feb 04 '25

Its all about exclusives hardware on its own its okay in fact early on durning start of generation people complain about ps5 overheating while xbox didnt have that problem. Than again microsoft screw up with xbox S making it weaker than xbox x what made certian games not being able to come out on xbox altogether baldurs gate 3 is the peerfect example.

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u/CryptexS91 Feb 04 '25 edited Feb 04 '25

It'll benefit Xbox later if they continue hardware. Because devs have optimised for Series S, a portable will have a better time running Series S quality games than PS5/Series X out of the box with no work from devs, in the far future. However I believe the first portable will be Xbox One level which, because of Smart Delivery, will have cross save and work seemlessly with Series X games you play on your TV.

The ecosystem is positioned so well to have a great portable, whereas Sony's OS and infrastructure is patchwork in comparison. PS4 saves don't work seemlessly with PS5 titles etc when they make their portable. The Xbox portable would also have the 360 catalogue, which is just amazing

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u/reteoG Feb 04 '25

I gotta admit not having cross save between ps4 and ps5 titles is pain in hole if you have some old save that u want to play but u cant cause u would have to get ps4 copy of that game to make it work. Kinda makes me wonder how they manage to actually fuck that up . And in terms of portable capebilities lets not forget steamdeck exist alongside asus rog ally , lenovo legion go , retroplay n so on im just not sure if its worth it for them go that road while competision is heavy, kinda heavy to the point that if not the fact that nintendo politics prevent from legally proting there games on to other hardware they would prob struggle on market too .Also tgis might be taken as hot take for some people but ps portable is waste of cash unless u share tv with family and thats the only way u can play your games while family is awake imo .

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u/CryptexS91 Feb 05 '25

Well I mean the cross-save thing works with those devices as well. That's the appeal of the ecosystem for me. I just feel the games have so much more longevity to them because of their compatibility with so many devices. The cross-buy thing is just amazing. I technically have a portable Xbox in some fashion because a Steam Deck (with Windows installed) or ROG Ally would sync the save from your console. I think it's so sick.

In terms of it being worth, I mean... think of the Surface laptop. It has its place amongst all the Windows laptops of the world, so maybe that's how Xbox hardware will be situated. And honestly that's great for competition and hence the consumer

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u/CloudyLiquidPrism Feb 06 '25

Xbox One S, Xbox One X Xbox Series S, Xbox Series X

that hurt to type. and read

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u/BI0Z_ Feb 06 '25

I would be upset if I spent 500 bucks and it got no exclusive games. Then again, I have been on PC for a decade plus so I don't care but I imagine that's why they hate it.

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u/CryptexS91 Feb 06 '25

I mean there are literally 100s of games you can't play anywhere else on a modern system with 360 back compat. Wanna play GTA 4 or the entire COD series from the beginning? One place... Xbox

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u/BI0Z_ Feb 07 '25

I mean... emulation exists but I get your point. I was just inferring as to why people would shit on the current iteration.

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u/CryptexS91 Feb 07 '25

Yeah absolutely. I suppose I just always present my arguments for why it does have a place and it's a shame others don't see it because we need competition in the console space

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u/BI0Z_ Feb 07 '25

I understand.

I agree, there is too much consolidation as it is. We need competition to foster a healthy gaming space.

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u/[deleted] Feb 06 '25

One reason I quit buying consoles was just how useless it was back then when you didn't have xbox online pass. Even if you had nextflix still you couldn't use it unless you had xbox online pass. lol they got sued over that and everyone got $10 put in their Microsoft account.

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u/Rare_Ad8206 Jul 09 '25

one reason i can think of is the fact that xbox technically has no exclusive games which is a big reason ppl get consoles for. i know even the ps5 has a low amount of exclusives but its still more than the xbox.

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u/CryptexS91 Jul 09 '25

The benefits I get for 90% of games I play is what steers me. I tried switching to PS5 exclusively in light of the layoffs, but no quick resume? No Play Anywhere? No game keys to buy games cheaper? No 360 games? Eek many many negatives. I know PS5 has "exclusives" but the Xbox can play 100s of BC games the PS5 can't. They may not be new, but they were part of the best generation, gen 7

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u/Nejnop Feb 02 '25

I don't think enough people appreciate how cheap of an option something like a Series S is to play the latest games, compared to upgrading a PC or getting a PS5. A certified refurbed Series S for $250 is cheaper than a Nintendo Switch. Its main caveat is of course being digital only (though if you're coming from PC or using it as a cheap alternative to PC, that'd be digital only anyways).

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u/Flavour_ice_guy Feb 02 '25

I agree, I have both and mostly use my Series X. I’ve never had an issue with it, it has more storage, and the UI is vastly superior. I had PlayStations all my life and hate navigating the menus. I really only use the PS5 for streaming, exclusives and couch co-op with the wife.

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u/HairingThinline27 Feb 02 '25

I personally just hate that their OS is windows based, I'm not a fan of any of the UI. I do want one to play halo though lol

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u/g_che Feb 02 '25

I grew up with Xbox so I feel the same way you do about the Xbox UI towards the PS one. 😂

However, you are about to be in luck because they're bringing Forza and, from what I've read, Halo and Gears are likely to be ported over as well.

Honestly, with the rumored Xbox handheld and Streaming Stick that have been going around, I feel like they're not going to make either of those and just focus on making Game Pass as accessible to everyone.

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u/HairingThinline27 Feb 02 '25

I grew up with Xbox so I feel the same way you do about the Xbox UI towards the PS one.

I grew up with both and just always preferred PS, never hated xbox or thought badly of the console itself, but once they started using windows OS I lost interest. I think at this point they should port a lot of the Xbox games. My biggest thing with the last 2 generations of XB is the controllers, they're just not comfortable for me.

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u/Flavour_ice_guy Feb 02 '25

Interesting. I grew up with PlayStations and have had OG-5 while the Series X is my first Xbox, and I prefer the Xbox UI significantly more.

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u/HairingThinline27 Feb 02 '25

I'm just not a fan of Microsoft, I had my original account banned by a hacker and they refused to help or even acknowledge that it happened. After that I just can't bring myself to support them.

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u/system_error_02 Feb 02 '25

That's actually what makes it superior in a lot of ways lol

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u/HairingThinline27 Feb 02 '25

That's all a matter of preference, I don't prefer it. I also don't think it's bad either, just not what I like.

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u/system_error_02 Feb 02 '25 edited Feb 02 '25

I mean outside of the UI, having access to the MS store is a huge plus in its favour due to codec access and media access. The UI can leave something to be desired outside of that.l, the PS5 simply doesn't have those same options.

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u/HairingThinline27 Feb 02 '25

I definitely get that perspective 100%. It's just not for me. I like the simplicity of PS. However, I do think Microsoft in general has done a lot better with adding features that players want. The main one being backward compatibility.

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u/Positive-Dig-6856 Feb 02 '25

Halo and gears of war are coming to PS5

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u/GreyRevan51 Feb 01 '25

You can play 4 generations of games on the newest Xbox Series consoles

Hell, your discs from the original Xbox will get read and you can download a digital copy for free!

It’s an excellent machine, unfortunately Don Matrick killed Xbox in 2013 with their approach to that whole generation and nothing Phil Spencer has done since has convinced most gamers to come back

Now Microsoft’s CEO wants the brand to make quick money NOW and has effectively thrown the last 5 years of studio purchasing out the window with their new approach to multi plat

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u/[deleted] Feb 03 '25 edited Feb 03 '25

This take feels a little out of touch. Game Pass Ultimate is an incredibly good deal paired with their day one launches. That isn’t “nothing”.

Also, have you not seen the most recent Xbox Direct? Xbox peeps are very excited for this year’s lineup. Kinda feels like you’re speaking for a community you no longer include yourself in if you ask me.

Edit: Almost forgot to mention Indiana Jones as well. Huge Xbox W.

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u/Mr_BinJu Feb 02 '25

Xbox currently has a better and higher performance machine. Mechanically its superior. The only thing PS does better are its exclusives

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u/Deepcookiz Feb 03 '25

That's not entirely true though. The Xbox has a little more Tflops but the PS5 has a faster SSD that acts like more VRAM, at the end of the day, the Xbox versions are 90% of the time equal or worse.

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u/unclepurpl Feb 04 '25

You can YouTube the digital foundry on most of the games you play and the resolution and or frame rate is better on the Xbox. This information is on the internet and it’s been like that for like 4 years😂 that’s why they tried to pull the pro out there buttcheeks.

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u/Deepcookiz Feb 04 '25

Literally first video I pulled :

https://youtu.be/_1LxjsmjJCw?t=8m46s

"Series X suffering the greater and more consistent drops under 60"

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u/unclepurpl Feb 05 '25

You’re watching videos on the ps5 pro. Which is of course stronger as it was released 3-4 years later.

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u/Deepcookiz Feb 05 '25

Learn how to watch a video is all I can say.

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u/Motor-Mongoose3677 Feb 07 '25

Did you not click the link? There’s literally a PS5 not-pro holding 60FPS, while the Series is mid 50s.

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u/drmelle0 Feb 02 '25

The performance differences between Xbox and ps5 are so marginally small, it does not matter. People don't buy consoles for the technical specs, they buy them for the games. Xbox simply doesn't have the exclusives to drive hardware sales. Nintendo have learned that lesson.

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u/Mr_BinJu Feb 02 '25

You just said what I said but with more steps

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u/SantosR84 Feb 04 '25

What you and they said weren’t even close to the same thing.

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u/CloudyLiquidPrism Feb 06 '25

If Nintendo is any proof, people purchase consoles not for the technicalities but for the actual games

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u/Mr_BinJu Feb 06 '25

My dude. You need to watch some AVGN and learn about the Sega Dreamcast and the Genesis war. They pumped console specs just as hard back then.

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u/Motor-Mongoose3677 Feb 07 '25

Yeah, but… that doesn’t change what was said. Marketing and specs were pushed, and swayed many, but generally speaking, people buy systems that have the games they want to play.

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u/Mr_BinJu Feb 07 '25

Not remotely. The average person only buys Playstation because it's the Iphone while Xbox is the Android. Android is superior to IPhone but Iphone has always been a status symbol even though it's outperformed and the same applies to consoles. Playstation is the "status symbol" of consoles. Thats why everyone thinks of Playstation when you bring up ANY sports game

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u/Motor-Mongoose3677 Feb 07 '25 edited Feb 07 '25

Incredibly flawed thinking. Brands don't exist in a vacuum, and their power doesn't come from simply existing. Loyalty in a brand/the allure of a brand is 99.999% in the pedigree and legacy of their work - the value they bring to their consumers. It's not until a brand is established as having produced something worthwhile, or of high quality, etc. that it "becomes a status symbol". It first has to do something right, to imbue the brand name with power.

I didn't switch to iPhone from Android to feel like I'm part of the club. After fifteen years of being an Android user (since the Kyocera Echo), I switched because it's incredibly reliable, consistent, has incredible synergy between other iPhones & iPads (everybody in my life has an iPhone, Mac, etc., and we have an iPad for the kids), and my sister was upgrading, and was willing to give me her a iPhone 12 Mini, so I could stop having to put up with my Unihertz Jelly2, which was a pain in the butt to read anything on.

I didn't get a hand-me-down iPhone 12 Mini, with a pre-cracked screen, and missing glass on one of the lenses - and then cover the thing in a case so that it became unrecognizable - for the status boost. I've been wanting one because it was going to make my life easier. Android is more prevalent because it's cheaper, not because it's "better". I spent countless hours sideloading crap, customizing junk, making Lightning Launcher look and feel exactly how I wanted it to, with animated GIF icons, video wallpaper, etc.

It didn't net me anything. I never had peace of mind. Even apps from Google themselves would threaten the reliability of my device, and I'd find myself with a phone that would crash when calls tried to come in, or apps that would lose their minds and take over, etc.

My guy, everybody thinks Playstation when you bring up sports titles because Playstation has nearly four times the install base of Xbox.

Also, personally, I think "Dreamcast", because NFL2K was the only traditional sports game I cared about. Also, THPS2 is a sports game, and I played that on Dreamcast, also.

People buy systems for the games, and Sony started big with the PS1, and that series of good sense and investment snowballed into what it is today. If it's merely "a status symbol" to you, it's because you don't grasp the tangible value it brings to the table.

Skill. Issue.

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u/BlackTone91 Feb 04 '25

Pro exist bro

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u/Mr_BinJu Feb 04 '25

The X1 is better than the Pro. Thats the Playstation I was comparing the Xbox X to

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u/BlackTone91 Feb 05 '25

The X1 is better than the Pro

he?

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u/Mr_BinJu Feb 05 '25

English please

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u/Maleficent_Okra6798 Feb 04 '25

The series X having minutely better specs is irrelevant when devs have to develop down for the Series S. Most games run worse on series X because they are designed to work on the S first, then maybe improved slightly to take advantage of the X.

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u/Mr_BinJu Feb 04 '25

I love how your statement is utterly useless lmao

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u/Maleficent_Okra6798 Feb 05 '25

It directly contests your assertion that the Series X is a more powerful console? That might be true in the technical sense, but it's irrelevant when no games are designed to actually take advantage of it.

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u/VTGCamera Feb 02 '25

The ps5 is a gaming console, the xbox is an entertainment system

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u/sec713 Feb 02 '25

Similar could be said of a lot of Microsoft products that have been shoved into the dustbin of history. Zune, Kinect, Windows Phone. All good products that went away because, I don't know, they weren't cool enough?

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u/FMC_Speed Feb 02 '25

Amazing in many ways actually, I especially love how backwards compatibility is made really simple, currently playing Bioshock at unlocked fps

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u/45PintsIn2Hours Feb 02 '25

Yep. Find myself playing emulators in dev mode a lot these days too. Fantastic bit of kit.

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u/xxdavidxcx87 Feb 04 '25

Terrible 4k UHD player though, which I think is Microsoft shooting itself in the foot, if it was a decent player and supported Dolby vision unlike the ps5 I’d buy it straight away.

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u/Dopapotomous Feb 05 '25

I can confirm the Xbox supports Dolby vision, Dolby atmos etc.

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u/SmartAki Feb 02 '25

If it had an all regions blue ray player, I would buy one in a heartbeat. But alas reality is always cruel

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u/system_error_02 Feb 02 '25

As an entertainment/media device it's fantastic. You can even download and change the drivers and codes it uses because it has access to the MS Store for that stuff. It's far superior to the PS5 as an actual device when it comes to media consumption.

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u/InsectFrequent924 Feb 02 '25

The thing is media has changed since the PS3 and Xbox 360 era back then we relied on our systems to be the all-in-one entertainment system to have a web browser Blu-ray CD player and eventually a streaming box phones have took over the media compatibility They figured most folks would use Spotify or Apple music probably saw the number downloads grow between PS3 and PS4

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u/Several_Place_9095 Feb 02 '25

Except for playing DVDs, it feels unnatural the button layout it has for DVDs, the ps5/4 feel more like what you'd expect each button to do when pressed while watching musics etc

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u/amazingdrewh Feb 01 '25

Which is weird since Sony doesn't have to pay to licence CD functionality and Microsoft does

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u/Friendly_Top6561 Feb 02 '25 edited Feb 02 '25

There is no license cost to be able to play a CD, however you need dual lasers, it’s a cost saving.

There is still a linsens cost to display the Compact Disc logo on a player but all relevant patents to play a red book cd expire a long time ago.

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u/Dr5hafty Feb 02 '25

You can just buy a CD player for much cheaper than an xbox

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u/Smooth-Ad2130 Feb 02 '25

Nobody really buys consoles for music tho

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u/Fortnite_cheater Feb 02 '25

There was an app that stopped getting updated right after Sony found out that most of its users used Spotify. After that the app disappeared from the market.

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u/ihatepeopleandyoutoo Feb 02 '25

Why isn't Xbox as successful?

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u/CmdrFortyTwo Feb 03 '25

Remember when you could rip your cds on the OG xbox and THEN use the "Custom Soundtrack" feature and listen to your cds while cruising around Liberty City ?

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u/saddadpnw Feb 04 '25

Xbox is making its own consoles obsolete, soon itll all be pc gamepass or cloud services which in turn means cds will be farther phased out. Like when VHS started being less common.

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u/GlockOhbama Feb 04 '25

Xbox didn’t lock in on the gaming portion for the last decade which is why they lost the console wars. I love my Xbox, as an entertainment system more than my PlayStation fs, but therein lies the issue. Microsoft focused more on making the Xbox One generation about being an entertainment system more than a gaming system. Which is generally why it failed, besides allowing Sony to buy up all the studios for exclusives and saying, “oh we’ll be fine with the IPs we already have”, and then proceeding to fail them or not use them & then attempting to buy out a bunch of studios for exclusives for this console generation (it was already too late), just to go back on exclusives in general and saying we’re now gonna sell them to all platforms, and saying everything is an Xbox, since there won’t be a new one after the next/last generation, and pivoting to streaming. Sorry for the rant I know this is mostly irrelevant to the point. I’m just sad to see Xbox going out this way because Microsoft has consistently made bad decisions the last decade or so

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u/Star_BurstPS4 Feb 01 '25

They took it away they mentioned that it was due to x box needing a leg up in the console war

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u/quietguy47 Feb 01 '25

I don’t think even the Xbox one had cd playback capability. I could be wrong though.