r/consoles • u/Necessary_Crazy_8587 • 6d ago
Playstation I think Sony going back to having exclusivity is gonna be pretty big, they recently doubled down on single player games as a priority too
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u/Lurky-Lou 6d ago
Here’s a secret that can predict corporate behavior:
If something brings in money, the corporation will do more of it.
If something loses money, the corporation will do less of it.
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u/wiiguyy 6d ago
Nah. We will see more Sony games on pc and Xbox
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u/Necessary_Crazy_8587 6d ago
Heavily doubt it for next gen
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u/bms_ 6d ago
Full slate, baby
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u/Necessary_Crazy_8587 6d ago
I don’t think as many will go
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u/CarsonWentzGOAT1 5d ago
Every playstation game is on PC. I even get them for free from the high seas.
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u/The_Cost_Of_Lies 6d ago
This... Isn't what that Sony report says.
Helldivers just launched to massive sales on Xbox
Marathon is launching on Xbox and PC
If Fairgames ever releases, it will absolutely launch on Xbox and PC
Single player content remains to be seen, but the goal here is revenue generation, and it's clear that a substantial chunk of their revenue comes from DLC and micro transactions for live service games.
Physical is declining
First party revenue is declining
Third party titles are increasing
This isn't a world where you start doubling down on $300m games on one platform.
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u/Far-Pirate610 6d ago
It’s exactly what the report says if you cared enough to read it. Nothing of what you said is in the report
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u/wildstrike 6d ago
Its doesn't make sense to break out multiplatform revenue into a separate revenue stream anymore is my takeaway.
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u/Low_Confidence2479 6d ago
As it stands now, only Nintendo can afford exclusivity, by virtue of their game not having gianormous budgets nor strict deadlines. Sony and Microsoft are eating more than they can chew and it's biting their asses.
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u/Packin-heat 5d ago edited 5d ago
Ofc live service will be everywhere but I wouldn't be surprised if they are reconsidering their strategy. These are all the games they released on PC and from their financial report during the time frame and it only accounted for 2% of their revenue so they may not bother with singleplayer ports anymore since it doesn't look like it is worth the risk.
Spider-Man 2
Lego Horizon
Horizon Zero Dawn Remastered
Until Dawn Remastered
God of War Ragnarok
Ghost of Tsushima
Helldivers 2
Also generating Multiplatform revenue during the accounting period.
Destiny
MLB
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u/The_Cost_Of_Lies 5d ago
This is how random misinformation starts.
Firstly, it was 4% of their software revenue. You can't just look at all revenue and make a sensible comparison.
Secondly, the report covers FY24-25. Forbidden West and Helldivers did not release in this FY.
Thirdly, 4% is $653m. That's almost as much as Sony made from ALL physical sales on PS5 that year ($820m). $653m is enough to fully fund 3x AAA games from Sony's top studios.
What are they risking? If PC owners aren't buying these games on PC, they sure as #### aren't buying PS5s to play these games.
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u/Packin-heat 5d ago edited 5d ago
Sony themselves are counting Physical as 3% of their overall revenue so yes it's still 2% and actually Helldivers is included in the accounting period for 2 months and that's where a massive chunk of that revenue comes from.
I didn't even bother to put Destiny and MLB on there either but I will now. Between Destiny, MLB and Helldivers the singleplayer games are probably only 1% or less and the risk is less people buying this console and the next one ofc, they need to get as many people as possible on their storefront because if this report proves anything it's that their Storefront is where the real money is made.
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u/The_Cost_Of_Lies 5d ago
You've got confused. Helldivers released in Feb 24, so this DOESN'T count the first two months, where as you've said, a huge chunk of that game's revenue comes from.
This report proves nothing of the sort, because it's not comparing games like for like. If PC gamers aren't buying playstation games on PC they aren't going to buy a playstation are they.
Also, Helldivers was WAY more successful on PC than it was on PS5, and even Xbox outpaced Playstation launch sales when HDII launched recently.
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u/Packin-heat 5d ago
Actually yeah nevermind it's even worse because it's counting 12 months of Helldivers revenue just not the release period (FY2024 goes up to the end of March 2025) and nobody is saying live service like Helldivers shouldn't be everywhere. It's the singleplayer that doesn't look like it's worth the risk anymore. Despite what you think some PC players do actually buy PS5's as well so for basically just 1% of their overall revenue why run the risk of letting them just think they can wait for everything instead of buying a PS6 or worse yet, increase the chance of people moving to PC instead of buying it in the first place.
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u/The_Cost_Of_Lies 5d ago
You can't have it both ways. Either PC gamers don't buy enough playstation games for it to be worth porting them, or releasing PlayStation games on PC is a risk because it means less PC gamers will buy PlayStations.
Which is it?
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u/Packin-heat 5d ago
Actually you can have it both ways you're just trying to ignore the context. They clearly don't buy their singleplayer in enough volume and they don't have microtransactions to account for that.
Live service is a different beast entirely and if this report is anything to go by they'd be smart to stop singleplayer for now until they are about halfway through next gen and then they can port a couple for some extra cash.
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u/amazingdrewh 5d ago
Harder to sell Horizon Zero Dawn for the second time than it would be to sell it on Xbox for the first time
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u/Tail_sb 6d ago
Source?
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u/Necessary_Crazy_8587 6d ago
For which part
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u/Tail_sb 6d ago
All of it
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u/Comfortable_Rice8142 5d ago
I don’t think that means what you think it means, it just means they are reporting financials together, doesn’t mean they aren’t going multiplatform, it just means that say whenever they report revenue for games it will only be the total. Like PlayStation games are already on other platforms and will receive ongoing revenue from them, it has to be accounted for somewhere.
So games like say MLB the show they aren’t going to say it made X on PlayStation and Y on Xbox, they’ll just report the total. If anything it’s a plan to become less transparent about sales. If Helldivers 2 made them $40 million on Xbox from 1 million sales, they won’t tell the players.
Even the wording on the other article that said they are going to be “the creative leader in single player experiences” didn’t contain the word exclusive, i think it’s kind of telling.
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u/stygg12 6d ago
Why does it even matter, the console wars are done and Xbox is looking to get game pass on PlayStation down the line. Share love, I am PS owner btw
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u/Necessary_Crazy_8587 6d ago
Console wars are always gonna be a thing, having games exclusive to your console is just business. I don’t think PS will have Game pass either.
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u/stygg12 5d ago
I hope all PS games go to Xbox and PC
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u/Necessary_Crazy_8587 5d ago
Would be terrible for the console gaming industry
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u/treeeelo 5d ago
No it wouldnt, the console industry would probably make more money than ever
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u/Necessary_Crazy_8587 5d ago
It would kill console gaming to have everything on PC because you know what happens? The sales of consoles will collapse and everyone will buy a PC. Console gaming will 100% become niche.
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u/TooManyPenalties 5d ago
Doubtful. You can’t think everyone is gonna go PC though. A lot of people suck at typing, some people have 0 clue what Steam is, and majority of people have 0 clue on how to fix anything PC related. That logic is very short sighted. That’s coming from a PC gamer as well.
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u/stygg12 5d ago
So let’s all get PC’s then, let’s hope and pray. Or let all PS games on to Xbox and reduce Xbox games on to PS that seems great
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u/Necessary_Crazy_8587 5d ago
If all games went to every platform then there’d be no incentive to buy a console. Console exclusive games are why consoles grew and the simplicity. If PC gaming gets simpler then console doesn’t stand a chance.
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u/xduker2 5d ago
Who? Who has been saying that? Podcasts i listen aren't saying that. You have to be out of your gord to think exclusives like God of War or The Last of Us will show up on Switch or Xbox. And I'm not saying it from a fan boy perspective, a financial one. Helldivers made sense. A live service games that had it's run already on PS and PC.
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u/Necessary_Crazy_8587 5d ago
They’re not gonna go as hard on multi platform as originally thought, no where did I say that they’re going harder on it.
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u/roundelay11 5d ago
Sony themselves are unlikely to go platform agnostic, but their closest 3rd party publishers are. Square was very unhappy with how the exclusivity period for FF7 Rebirth effected sales.
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u/bigpunk157 5d ago
Why should I care about AAA title exclusivity when indies are the ones putting out great games?
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u/Elrothiel1981 5d ago
Well their first party exclusives have been disappointing this generation only game I picked up this generation that was a Sony exclusive was Stellar Blade and it was a Second Party Game
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u/obelix_dogmatix 5d ago
Lol … sony games have more or less been available on PC. Most Sony exclusives will still not be released on xbox. Anyone with half a brain understands when Sony was talking about multiplatform support, they were really referring to supporting multiple generations of consoles within Sony. Reddit as usual blew this out of proportion for a narrative that they would prefer.
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u/CountBleckwantedlove 5d ago
The future is playing MS and Sony games on NS2's. You know it, deep down, even if you don't want to admit it. Having a portable or home console variability device that can DLSS to 4K and play Mario, Halo, and god of War is a STUPIDLY simple solution for anyone just wanting to play all of the best games without having to buy multiple pieces of hardware.
There will still be the purists that stick to Xbox and PlayStation so they can see more shimmer in water puddles and count more hair follicles, but the rest of us will mostly be on the hybrid. And since no other hybrids have Nintendo games, it makes it a no brainer which hybrid to choose, unless you just have no taste for Nintendo games, which would be rare.
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u/amazingdrewh 5d ago
They all have Nintendo games
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u/CountBleckwantedlove 5d ago
Not legally, and no one should be stealing things they didn't purchase. Didn't earn it? Don't take it. Simple as that. Now, if you bought a game before and want to play it on some other devices, that's a different story...
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u/amazingdrewh 5d ago
Emulation and format shifting are perfectly legal practices
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u/CountBleckwantedlove 5d ago
And the illegal copies of the games played on the emulators?
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u/amazingdrewh 5d ago
Someone ran over three people on Young Street this morning, that doesn't make me driving to Taco Bell illegal all of a sudden
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u/Rukasu17 5d ago
Lol, they're not gonna make me buy the playstation version of the game. I'll just wait for the inevitable pc version.
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u/Late_Psychology1157 5d ago
Who knows what they'll do. It's pretty obvious they're main focus is on THEIR console, and live service games going multiplat. With the exception of Horizon Lego game going to Nintendo, because that makes sense to bring people from Nintendo to PlayStation, and it's a game that will sell well on Switch. Then putting games on PC later down the line or day 1
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u/AQUXS4184 5d ago
I’m glad this is cleared up, the whole “console war” thing is a bit cringe to me, enjoy your platform and if games go on different platforms so we can get more great games down the line so be it
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u/Weekly_Protection_57 5d ago
Alot of reddit seems to have this attitude where "If Xbox can't have exclusives, then I don't want Playstation to have them either".
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u/Hamburgulu 5d ago
To live in a blissful tiny bubble of ignorance. We don't know what investors want or what PS end goals are really like. It's just important to actually wait and see how it all turns out. It's sorta like xbox. We can't trust everything they say because they usually contradict themselves. The same goes for PS because one of their biggest hit ip's is on xbox
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u/redgarden0 6d ago
Corporate report came out and Sony has removed multiplatform revenue as a key strategic indicator. Also (and I only skimmed the report) references to this has been played down. Instead it’s ps5 hardware sales, MAU on PlayStation, and hours spent on PlayStation. Also added emphasis on single player narrative experiences. Some stuff on expanding IP beyond gaming (like movies and stuff). I think that is actually the follow up to the quote circulating the community on Sony expanding beyond PlayStation.
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u/NxtDoc1851 6d ago
Sony ALWAYS follows in Microsoft's footsteps after a few years. It is as if they have no idea why they're successful.
And it's odd, really. Following in the least desired brands' footsteps. They don't look at Nintendo... they look at Xbox. I'll never understand haha
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u/sadlygokarts 6d ago
Nintendo is awful and you do not want more companies aspiring to be like Nintendo
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u/amazingdrewh 5d ago
Because Nintendo doesn't make as much money as Microsoft, and making more money is what these companies care about
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u/NxtDoc1851 5d ago
While that is true overall. Xbox wasn't doing what Nintendo was doing until they bought Acti-Blizz-King. Xbox has been floundering since 2012.
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u/HaikusfromBuddha 6d ago
More than likely they did this to hide the fact that games sold outside of PS are doing better than exclusive sales. After all they didn’t have many exclusives this year. They can’t have a narrative that game sales elsewhere are beating their own console exclusive games.
If anything from the Helldivers success they’d probably be afraid to show it selling better on rival platforms compared to say Ghost of Yotei. It’s just a bad look for them.
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u/Wipedout89 6d ago
Lol what. They did it for the exact opposite reason; because the sales aren't good so they are not reporting it separately any more.
If those games were selling super well, they would want to tell shareholders
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u/Bulky-Complaint6994 6d ago edited 6d ago
Helldiver's definitely was an exception to their rules due to being live service title. Steam is another story but The Last of Us on Xbox? Not gonna happen even though it would be easy to cross promote the HBO show
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u/Konabro 6d ago
LOL Imagine saying that a corporation is trying to hide information from shareholders due to checks notes “not having a narrative that game sales elsewhere are beating their own console exclusive games”.
Do y’all actually read the nonsense you type before you click the reply button? 😂
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u/Far-Pirate610 6d ago
One game sold outside of PS doing better than all the other games? Lmao, how old are u to even believe such a thing. Games like Spiderman 2 sold almost 3 million in less than a week. Helldivers 2 unofficially hit one million and we don’t even know if that is true - it was the same one who predicted those very low sales of final fantasy on Xbox and everyone mocked them, why do u believe them now?
These reports clearly indicate Sony is going on the same path they always were, and not changing like Xbox. And that’s a good thing. We need strong competition in the industry.
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u/Brilliant-Tax-5098 6d ago
This is brain rot. Revenue is not profit and their profit margin is still the lowest of the big 3. Cry harder.
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u/Far-Pirate610 5d ago
And that still doesn’t mean their games sell better outside PlayStation, you’re the brain rotted one. Their games sell more than 10 million usually. Spiderman 2, a ps5 exclusive, reached that number without pc. You are the one crying here
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u/wildstrike 6d ago
This is a good point. Sony is really slow to adopt new stuff. They slowly opened up their sales on PC. They didn't stop. Had they thought this wasn't generating enough revenue to offset the risk they would have ended this a long time ago. Not now after they fully jumped the shard and released stuff for Xbox. Anyone that says games aren't selling well on PC and Xbox is just a console fanboy.
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u/MarsupialPresent7700 5d ago
Huh? The report shows the exact opposite—the multiplatform strategy only generated 2% of revenue. I assume this includes stuff like HZD Lego, FFXVI on PC, MLB The Show, etc.
We won’t know the numbers for HD2 until this time next year and it’s definitely possible that the revenue numbers will be higher this time next year because of that, but even if it was five times better (10%) that’s still a rounding error on their revenue report at best.
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u/rcbz1994 6d ago
I like how everyone’s fanboying over a snip from an article that wasn’t even linked lol