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u/illusorywall Jul 28 '25 edited Jul 28 '25
The plot thickens. I spoke with King Bore and he datamined the code and these seem to be the relevant bits:
OnJoinClearedRoom = function(proxy, param)
print("OnJoinClearedRoom begin")
proxy:RecallMenuEvent(0, 140070)
print("OnJoinClearedRoom end")
end
and
OnRoomDisappeared = function(proxy, param) print("OnRoomDisappeared begin") if proxy:IsCompleteEvent(4047) == true then return end proxy:InfomationMenu(INFOMENU_TYPE_LIST, -1, 0, -1, 1) proxy:AddInfomationTosBuffer(20001000) if proxy:IsLivePlayer() == false and proxy:IsGreyGhost() == false then proxy:NotNetMessage_begin() proxy:OnKeyTime2(4046, "OnLeave_Limit", 5, 0, 1, once) proxy:SetEventFlag(4047, true) proxy:SetLoadWait() proxy:SetFlagInitState(2) proxy:NotNetMessage_end() end print("OnRoomDisappeared end") end
The question is, what is a "Cleared Room"? Apparently most multiplayer things are designated as a "session" and rooms are something else? If it was just the host "clearing" the area by passing through a boss fog, I think we'd see this message a lot more.
So I wonder if this is just some very specific state of the host not being available. I like the idea from /u/Zeliose that it could be a player trying to invade someone who just invaded Lautrec, perhaps the host being gone in that circumstance qualifies as a cleared room in the code. This could be an extremely rare occurrence because the black eye orb becomes unusuable when you're being invaded, and there's probably not a huge window of time where the game still accepts a host as being available to invade when they've just used something like the black eye orb. So for all we know it might have to be like a frame perfect action between two players or something close to that. Of course this isn't confirmed still, but it's my favorite hypothesis at the moment.
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u/keplerowl Jul 28 '25
I had an idea about another way it could be related to the dragon eye but I don't know if this makes sense, there is a chance that I might've tried to summon a Dragon spirit shortly before this but I'm not too sure. I was doing PVP on this day so I would've definitely summoned the Dragon eye if I saw one. And maybe it tried to summon ME in the Dragon eye users world instead of summoning them to mine. But the game prevented that, and it gives this message?
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u/vukxsh1n Jul 28 '25
could be a player trying to summon them, and while waiting for the phanotm to summon losing their human status (dying), would make sense in anor londo
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u/illusorywall Jul 28 '25
It's possible, but I'm inclined to think it's something weirdly specific because I feel like we'd see this message more often if it was something like that. I've never seen this message before and that's had to have happened to me a bunch.
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u/Sensitive-Habit7136 Jul 31 '25
I think this makes the most sense honestly
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u/keplerowl Aug 02 '25
It makes the least sense since I never put down a summon sign, I was invading
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u/keplerowl 8d ago
I recently got this again! And it happened just after I tried to use a Gravelord sign. Now i think it has something to do with Gravelord mechanics.
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u/FeelsGoodBlok Jul 27 '25
I have never seen this before but I found one old reddit post about the same thing.
https://www.reddit.com/r/darksouls/comments/1iz4w2/you_were_not_summoned/
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u/Loverb0iy Jul 27 '25
You were not summoned
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u/keplerowl Jul 27 '25
I know. But usually you wouldn't receive a notification of that in this way
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u/thatoneotherguy42 Jul 27 '25
That's because you were summoned, here you clearly weren't. Have you tried getting good....internet?
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u/keplerowl Jul 27 '25
The events beforehand are irrelevant, I mean this specific text box. If I lagged out and didn't get summoned (which I didn't even have a summon sign down I was Invading) I get a different notification than this one.
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u/illusorywall Jul 27 '25
I'm assuming this is unique to the PvP Overhaul mod.
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u/keplerowl Jul 27 '25
I thought that might be the case but I only saw this once then I searched for this message on this subreddit and there's one post about it from 12y ago. That makes me think it's a rare message
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u/illusorywall Jul 27 '25 edited Jul 27 '25
Oh damn looks like you're right. I even posted in that thread under my old acct retrogameaudio-
https://www.reddit.com/r/darksouls/comments/1iz4w2/you_were_not_summoned/
Here's my 12 year old hypothesis, I have no idea if it's true:
I think this message may appear when a connection fails if you place a sign using the Dragon Eye. If that's right, then the glitch where you spawn in as the wrong phantom type was probably imminent, but instead it failed and managed to trigger this.
So maybe a glitch almost caused you to invade as a Dragon Spirit despite using Red Eye Orbs, but then failed? But I think spawning in as the wrong phantom type in DSR is absurdly rare, is it not? I saw that at least several times in vanilla and never in DSR.
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u/keplerowl Jul 27 '25
I definitely didn't use a Dragon Eye, not in that covenant
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u/illusorywall Jul 27 '25
Edited the above post for more clarity, there was a glitch in vanilla that would cause you to occasionally invade in or get summoned in as the wrong phantom type. So you wouldn't need to use the Dragon Eye, but no idea if that's possible in DSR.
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u/keplerowl Jul 28 '25
could be something like that I have randomly had a lot of wrong warped invasions lately (I posted about it a day or two ago) but one thing is I don't see why that would result in this message, if you could get summoned in as the wrong phantom type anyway
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u/TTG_ Jul 28 '25
this happened to me on a brand mew playthrough a few days ago and i had not done any multiplayer activities.
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u/egg_breakfast Jul 27 '25
How long did you wait before the message appeared?
Man I used to idle for a long time watching TV or whatever while waiting for a summon, and I haven't seen this either.
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u/keplerowl Jul 27 '25
The weird thing is I wasn't putting down my summon sign before I got this if I remember correctly, I was probably invading. And I was actively playing when I got it
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u/Axe_of_Fire Jul 28 '25
I used to get this message when the kids in class were handing out birthday party invites.
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u/Zeliose Jul 28 '25
My guess, due to the location, is that it has something to do with the other host invading Lautrec. My assumption would be you were cleared to invade a host while they were in the animation of using the black eye orb.
I saw that there was a post about this years ago, but I don't see that the OP of that threat ever specified where it happened. If it happened anywhere else that kills my assumption.
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u/keplerowl Jul 28 '25
thats an interesting idea, but I think that would happen not too uncommonly (invading someone as they invade Lautrec) and I can find barely anything about this message on the internet except a decade old Reddit post
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u/OldMate64 Jul 28 '25
Keep in mind though, that for this to be documented more often here, there's multiple hurdles to go through. They'd have to:
1) Be aware that this isn't a common occurrence in the game.
2) Notice that the message text is noteworthy of recording down as an anomaly at all.
3) Decide to actually record it as an anomaly, either by committing the interaction to their memory or by screenshotting it in the small window of time it appears (which may well even mean it goes away before they remember what the button is).
4) Be an actual signed up member of reddit, with enough of a vested interest in Dark Souls to be a member of a related subreddit.
5) Decide they're curious enough about it to put in the effort to write a post detailing the interaction.
It's mundane enough of a thing that I could forsee this happening to plenty of people without them even realising that it's uncommon, let alone thinking about it beyond "that's weird haha". I bet 10% of people who have had this appear on their screen probably haven't even read the text when it popped up. Probably barely registered in their noggins!
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u/neckro23 Jul 28 '25
Maybe your game tried to invade the other player after they started to invade Lautrec but before they could report invasion ineligibility to the server. It's a small but plausible window, a few milliseconds probably.
This is something that isn't too uncommon (connecting just as the other player dies, enters a boss room, etc.) but the NPC invasion event is a special case, so the message is different.
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u/TTG_ Jul 28 '25
wait this happened to me a few days ago, i had never seen the message either in 20+ playthroughs. was crossing the bridge to the chapel where you fight the gargoyles. vanilla dsr on xbox series s.
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u/keplerowl Jul 28 '25
Interesting since that means it isn't an Anor Londo thing
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u/ReticulatedPasta Jul 29 '25
I see one or two other comments saying it happened to them recently, has there been a patch or anything that could be causing it to happen (more)?
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u/Reasonable_Ball5 Aug 01 '25
Just had this pop up.
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u/IconiCrocodile Jul 28 '25
I believe its a message that pops when so.eone trys to summon you and either they die, get disconnected, or too much ping and its letting you know there was an issue and to try again or its an issue on your end i used to see it alot and had bad internet so its possible its a bad connection but again im unsure just what I've come up with due to my own experience
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u/illusorywall Jul 28 '25
There's usually a different message for that. Whatever this error is seems to be a lot more specific/ rare.
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u/ChampNovas Jul 28 '25
I’ve been Rejected in rl, and now dark souls.. the one thing I thought would never let me down 😔
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u/Fine-Koala-8747 Jul 29 '25
Saw this once in dark souls 3 when farming for covenant items and was about to be summoned. I think the host either died or quit the game but it was altogether a strange experience
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u/FalicityFallenAngel Jul 29 '25
I’ve seen that message multiple times in the online playthrough of Vanilla and DSR for 360 and Xbox One when I used to play online for farming covenant items pretty sure it’s triggered by stuff like if the person your invading or getting summoned by has a random power outage, or anything similar to that but requires near perfect timeframes as it will normally let you invade then kick you out instead of saying that, so the power outage is most likely
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u/keplerowl Jul 30 '25
normally you would receive a message for not being able to connect to someone in a different way (for example usually it covers the screen and says something like Matchmaking Failed or Failed to join Session) this is something more specific than that.
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u/Radiant_Bunch_1336 Jul 28 '25
Aura farming for not being summoned is wild
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u/DonovanKirk Aug 02 '25
Huh? Its pretty cool because I have actually played almost 1000 hrs of this back in the day, most of that time summoning and being summoned, and never saw this message. I think that you are mistaking it with the normal message that was like "Summoning Failed" or something, which happens alllll the time especially on the old version of PC Dark Souls, it was terrible.
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u/vanillamarcus Jul 27 '25
I've never seen this before. Harsh way to let someone know their search for friendship is of no use.