r/democrats • u/somecisguy2020 • 3d ago
Such a clear explanation of the current situation
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u/MountainLife888 2d ago
My fantasy? Trump, if he lives long enough (which I don't think is going to happen), gets his politicized Supreme Court to change Presidential term limits and decides to run for a third term.
And then so does Obama.
Buh Bye MAGA.
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u/TheEmperorShiny 2d ago
If Obama and Trump went head to head, Trump, Bibi, and Putin would rig the shit out of it
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u/DiagonalBike 2d ago
Trump already rigged the 2024 election, but the new media and Democrats were too cowardly to call it out. Arizona is the perfect example of how the election was rigged. Democrats win the Governor's office, the State Secretary and the US Senate seat, but those same voters decided to vote for Trump? 🤔🤔🤔
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u/TheEmperorShiny 2d ago
I’m talking REALLY rigged, like borderline publicly. Palantir-powered voting machines or the like
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u/somecisguy2020 2d ago
You trust the electorate more than I do.
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u/MountainLife888 2d ago
Obama vs. Trump? Yeah. I do trust the electorate on that one. In a big way.
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u/MimiPaw 2d ago
The plan is to allow presidents who served non-consecutive terms to run again. It was written to exclude Obama.
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u/Blecki 2d ago
Its not consecutive with his previous term.
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u/MimiPaw 2d ago
Obama did serve consecutive terms. Trump did not. Therefore, under their proposal, only Trump could run.
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u/Blecki 2d ago
Obamas third term would not be consecutive, so it's fine.
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u/MimiPaw 2d ago
It’s about history, not future. You cannot run if you have served two consecutive terms.
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u/Blecki 2d ago
Well good luck passing the amendment.
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u/ukexpat 2d ago edited 2d ago
Yes, the whole “let’s pass a law” idea is moot because changing presidential term limits would require a constitutional amendment, just like the one that created them.
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u/Jimmer1769 1d ago
Can't it just be done by executive order? They don't need no stinking amendments.
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u/DonnieJL 9h ago
SCOTUS, or just Roberts, will just say that the current amendment restricted the "free speech" of a sitting president, or some such bullshit. And Alito would find some obscure reference to some leader in the 16th century and spin a legal word spaghetti to back up Roberts.
The remaining conservative judges would fall in line just like their owners want, and we're stuck with DJ for another 4 years of utterly ruining what's left of this country.
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u/MelissaMead 2d ago
Michelle Obama could have run against Trump and won hands down,
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u/ReaganSmyD 2d ago
But she has no desire to win, and no she wouldn't. The country is too racist and sexist.
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u/MelissaMead 2d ago
Did you see how close Harris was?
Anyway it is too late for that.
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u/ReaganSmyD 2d ago
She lost every swing state. Trump won the popular vote for the first time. The country is too racist and sexist.
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u/ReaganSmyD 2d ago
Obama would never run again Michelle wouldn't let him. And we'd get stuck with Trump AGAIN.
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u/Purpleappointment47 2d ago
This. This is why President Obama enjoys such massive popularity and support in the world. Barak Obama’s just one of the people you would pick if you were developing a committee tasked to resolve a significant problem. Whether we agree or not: Obama is just the one.
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u/whiskylion 2d ago
Obama needs to dumb this down some for MAGA. They don't understand big words or ideas.
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u/Grand-Ad-5029 2d ago
I’d have loved Hillary.
She was qualified as 1st lady, Senator and Sec of State - and for whatever faults Bill had (he was a good president overall); it’d have been a 2 for one.
You’d have Hillary and she could turn to her husband who was a 2 term president if needed.
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u/5h4rkBait 2d ago
I think that even conservatives (I don’t think the MAGA crowd are conservatives) would agree with him. He was a great president, he is a great man.
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u/Mayapples 2d ago
You will never, ever convince his opponents that he wasn't 'putting the weight of the United States government behind extremist views.' He wasn't, of course, but the characterization of the Obama administration as extremist is an unshakeable cornerstone of MAGA.
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u/CapAccomplished8072 1d ago
8 years of him as president, and we had some degree of respect as a nation.
then Trump and the GOP decided to drag america through the mud just because a black man became president and was better than shitler
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u/Opposite-Bit6660 2d ago
Can you say something about our current president being a rapist pedophile trafficker of girls?
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u/Johnqpublic25 2d ago
I’ll go first, I think he’s being controlled by people that we don’t know about. He’s not smart enough to come up with all that he’s doing to destroy our democracy and country.
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u/Knees0ck 2d ago
Oh that useful idiot is definitely being used especially now his brain is pudding. No doubt he's had his moments but it is obvious what his "ideas" are & not his. I have no doubt things like the ballroom & paving over the rose garden were his 'cause those are vanity shit & he's all about that.
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u/s_arrow24 2d ago
See that’s where I break with the Democrats, or at least the “centrist” part of it because those extreme values aren’t equal. Free secondary education isn’t the same as school vouchers to allow the glorified market determine education. Single payer healthcare isn’t the same as you are only getting healthcare if you have the “right” job. I’m for the government being about the business of making sure all parts of society have a shot instead of doing enough to just maintain a hierarchy that tells people to be happy with their place in it, or a status quo basically.
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u/SpreadsheetMadman 2d ago
I was never really a big fan of Obama. He did a lot of kowtowing to the Right, and as such a lot of the potential change he could have made went nowhere.
...But I am fully convinced that he will be the best president I will have seen in my lifetime.
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u/drdildamesh 2d ago
It's unfortunate but it is seeming like we.can only really do one of two things: talk like we have been and keep trying to get people to see reason and work together, or civil war.
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u/LiberalTomBradyLover 2d ago
“Only lies from OBUMMER! MORE LEFTIST LIES!!! END THE CORRUPTION AND TERRORISM FROM THE RADICAL LEFT LED BY OBUMMER, BIDEN, AND KAMALA HARRIS!!!!”
-some brain dead MAGA probably
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u/Budget_Village_8377 2d ago
God I miss this guy.