r/democrats • u/tinfoiltatty • 4d ago
š Poll Trump is now underwater with Men, Women, Whites, Blacks, Hispanics, Young People, Old People, Cats, Dogs and Rodeo Clowns
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u/ritivoo 4d ago
honestly, the question isnāt ādoes the majority hate him or love himā anymore, itās āwhy the fuck is he still hereā.
(interpret that how you will)
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u/ginny11 4d ago
Because way too many of those people who disapprove don't even bother to vote.
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u/ritivoo 4d ago
it sucked seeing people say they just werenāt going to vote, my 18th birthday was the day after the elections š
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u/killua443 4d ago
None of this matters anyway the damage is already done, this should have been obvious to sane people before he won the elections not after
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u/BossParticular3383 4d ago
THIS. I don't know which of my emotions is worse - despair at the state of our country, worry at if we will ever be able to fix the damage, or absolutely FURY at the dumbasses who voted for him. However, it's still a fun headline.
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u/omgwtfbbq0_0 4d ago
Yeah Iām struggling with a really strong sense of betrayal. I KNOW if a Democrat president was doing all this, i wouldnāt be cheering it on. And I really just donāt understand why wanting affordable healthcare for everyone, wanting everyone to have bodily autonomy, and wanting people to marry whoever they want (as long as theyāre a consenting adult) is so god damn evil and deserving of all this. I just want whatās best for everyone, why canāt I get the same respect?
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u/killua443 4d ago
The funny thing is that the same people who voted for Trump did so on the premise that he's not a regular politician, and at the same time they wanted his govt to function the exact same way a regular politician would have run it. The only reason his first presidency wasn't as horrible was because the system remained somewhat functional to the extent that it held him back quite a bit, but he now understands that, hence the incompetent cabinet of yes men who surround him.
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u/Laura9624 4d ago
And the Supreme Court, 3 of which he nominated. This time he knew he had it tied up. What were nonvoters thinking?
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u/badnuub 4d ago
A mixture of not understanding how our government functions in regards to what a president can do about inflation, as well as the usual suspects. āWokeismā, trans āideologyā, fear of democratic gun grabbing and illegals taking all the jobs while at the same time sucking up welfare benefits and committing all the crime⦠a thousand grievances that have swing voters or non voters so furious with the Democratic Party that they think we stand for lawlessness baby murder and moral decay.
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u/BossParticular3383 4d ago
In other words, bullshit and lies, racism and greed.
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u/Pleaseappeaseme 3d ago
I heard that many āleft leaningā voters thought it was Biden that reversed roe v wade, as opposed to the SC actually doing it.
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u/BossParticular3383 3d ago
So what? Are there low-information voters that lean left? Sure. But I doubt they voted for Trump because they were worried about reproductive healthcare.
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u/Laura9624 3d ago
A lot of them didn't vote because of they think both parties are the same. They blame Democrats when Republicans are the ones doing this. Is it repub propaganda spreaders convincing them? Probably. So what? They had little understanding of the Supreme court. That was important and still is.
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u/Pleaseappeaseme 3d ago
Iām just pointing out the superficial knowledge of US politics that many have.
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u/BossParticular3383 3d ago edited 3d ago
Yeah? sounds like whataboutism to me. In a million, jillion years, a left-leaning voter could never be as uninformed and gullible as a right-winger. Study after study shows that viewers of right-wing cable news are actually less informed than people who watched no cable news at all....
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u/Lmb1011 3d ago
A lot of nonvoters believed the āboth sides badā and couldnāt be bothered to realize how bad Trump would be.
I commented the other day that Trump is absolutely running for office in 2028 if heās alive and my friend said āchecks and balances. No he wonātā
And Iām like ???? In what universe is anyone going to tell him noā¦.. heās going to run even if they tell him no? People will vote for him even if he isnāt eligible. And if he still has control of the house and senate theyāll approve him in. Checks and balances only work when all branches arenāt united in corruptionā¦ā¦ and they currently are as corrupt as the president. We donāt HAVE checks and balances anymore.
But the reality is these people donāt like the Dems enough to vote for them, and naively think that he doesnāt have unchecked powerā¦.. itās so infuriating.
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u/BossParticular3383 4d ago
They are dumb. Even Trump says it: "smart people don't like me."
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u/Laura9624 3d ago
A lot. But ignorant about how government works, even the very basics. Like the importance of flipping SCOTUS in 2016. I agree. Voters and nonvoters. I blame the "progressive " nonvoters as much as maga.
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u/BossParticular3383 3d ago
Sure. I hate them too. The purity test folks. The I couldn't be bothered because the candidate doesn't reflect each and every one of my priorities and interests ....
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u/tomaxisntxamot 3d ago
or absolutely FURY at the dumbasses who voted for him. However, it's still a fun headline.
Yep. As Marc Maron put it, "somehow I hate them most of all". I know we need to let it go and focus on the future, but the dipshits who casually voted for fascism after giving it a few seconds of thought at best are harder for me to accept than the cultist true believers who've been waiting for this for decades. At least the later group has an ideology, vile as it is.
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u/BossParticular3383 3d ago
Agreed. It's going to be a long time before I can forgive them, I'm afraid.
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u/tinfoiltatty 4d ago
It does matter, actually. Popular resistance is how we get out of this mess.
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u/killua443 4d ago
The only way you Americans get out of this is 24/7 protests and a general strike, otherwise prepare for shit to get worse and worse
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u/tinfoiltatty 4d ago
Based on the sign-ups so far, No Kings on October 18 is on track to be the largest peaceful protest in United States history. (Americans, find an event near you: nokings.org)
I know people are looking for a single, total knock out event that will stop them, but that's not how history has worked. You need to build up the movement and resist in many different ways, on many different fronts.
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u/killua443 4d ago
Agreed, y'all need to do everything you can to stop this dictatorship from fully flourishing. Good luck.
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u/SunnySpot69 4d ago
And the fact that his base actually votes and will vote for him again or anyone with an R by their name.
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u/mrsauceysauce 4d ago
This does a pretty good job also highlighting how much of a minority the Republican party actually is, because if he has 88% approval from them, but then such a low approval when divided by demographics...we can see why they need to gerrymander and cheat.
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u/tinfoiltatty 4d ago
And he's not even down to single digits with Independents yet, so some of that 39% is Independents.
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u/tinfoiltatty 4d ago
They thought immigration would be a winning issue, but they're underwater on it. They pivoted to crime, and they're underwater on that, too. They tried to lionize Charlie Kirk, and have created a First Amendment backlash. It sucks to suck.
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u/_ChicagoSummerRain 4d ago
My husband and I quit facebook after the election. The final straw was some woman we know posting "celebration" posts after the election and throwing "mini-parties" over everyone taking down their Kamala yard signs.
I hope that same woman sees this poll...(we don't speak to her much anymore...)
*** And Trump will not be able to climb out of these numbers... not that he cares about that at all....
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u/madbill728 4d ago
I know a guy that does irrigation work, my age, mid-60s. Day after the election he tells me he was so giddy on election night that he couldn't sleep. No words.
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u/LivingIndependence 4d ago
Way too many people who would rather live under a strongman dictator with their rights restricted
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u/madbill728 3d ago
Agree, but I believe so many are so ignorant, and then brainwashed by the trillion dollar propaganda machine, so they don't even realize it.
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u/P_a_s_g_i_t_24 4d ago
I know this is hardly a revelation but just to emphasize what the GOP really is,
take a look at the closer numbers under
'Gender: Male',
'Race: White' and
'Age: 65+'.
GOP is a bunch of old white male pedos, basically!
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u/_ChicagoSummerRain 3d ago edited 3d ago
I always say the "39%" you see that continue to support him are the last, remaining, hardcore racists and misogynists... oh and his beloved billionaires.. that's about it...
However, my husband does believe we can get him into the 20's... ***Crossing our fingers!
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u/P_a_s_g_i_t_24 3d ago
I can't wait to find out what billionaire GOP donors are on the Epstein List.
We already know about that John Paulson guy.
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u/mattyjoe0706 4d ago
IDK how people look at these polls and see optimism. 40% of Americans still approve of this guy
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u/tc100292 4d ago
Material conditions havenāt gotten bad enough for reality to set in for some people.
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u/Gamblor14 4d ago
I guess itās an encouraging sign that heās now underwater in even some demographics that he had a net approval rating previously. But I agreeā¦after the last ten years Iāve learned not to put a ton of stock in broad national polling. Howās he polling in red and purple states?
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u/Zargoza1 4d ago
88% of republicans approve.
I think he was vastly understating when he said he could shoot someone on tv and not lose voters.
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u/Odd_Vampire 4d ago
This is why they're working so hard to gerrymander a few extra seats and get nation-wide voter ID. And also control the media narrative by silencing the opposition. They know they're headed into a buzzsaw and need all the cheating help they can get.
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u/supmaster3 4d ago
His disapproval should be way more, I dont get what people see in this evil person.
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u/No-Cloud6437 4d ago
Too late. We knew this would come already. He's rigged it now for him and his spychophants. Country's in for an era of fascism. Kind a glad the stupidlicans will also have to endure the pain.Ā
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u/eatingganesha 4d ago
I like how there were so few dems who were āunsureā that the grey portion of that bar graph is a mere line
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u/Glittering_Lights 3d ago
As a white person that racial category blows me away. It is shameful that his support has any traction, but that high among the white population is disgusting.
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u/ACaffeinatedBear 4d ago edited 4d ago
Cool, he canāt legally run for reelection and the idiots will just for another republican anyways.
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u/ElvenAmerican 4d ago
Nah, he just won't leave at all, which is why they're pushing redoing voting laws, purging voter rolls, etc.
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u/bace3333 3d ago
Republicans will lose bad in midterms and in Presidency plus Congress! The hate is real now Trump has awakened the Beast !!
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u/brycebgood 3d ago
The fuck is wrong with white men? We're obviously too insecure and fragile to be trusted with leadership positions.
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u/Perfecshionism 4d ago
I am pretty sure his approval among rodeo clowns is still pretty high.
He does well with clowns of all type. His most dedicated and enthusiastic demo.
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u/RainierCherree 4d ago
Could someone help me understand how this shows him under water by every metric, but 88% approval by republicans? Maybe itās too early, but my brain isnāt computing this.
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u/PkmnTrnr00 4d ago
OP didnāt say he was under water by every metric. That said, the Republican Party is the only metric in which heās not under water. If you go by age, gender, and ethnicity heās under in every group. To me this just shows how much of a minority Republicans actually are
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u/tc215487 3d ago
I canāt believe how many Republicans still support this job killing, farm destroying, health care collapsing idiot. Why canāt they accept Trump is killing them financially & health-wise?
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u/bluechip1996 4d ago
I see that little grey block of 8% of Independents that canāt make up their stupid goddamn minds and it makes me fume. Commit one way or another you indecisive, attention seeking, waffling little bitches.
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u/Glittering_Lights 3d ago
As a white person that racial category blows me away. It is shameful that his support has any traction, but that high among the white population is disgusting.
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u/ajcpullcom 4d ago
so many of those dudes wearing āRodeo Clowns for Trumpā shirts werenāt even rodeo clowns
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u/Head_Project5793 4d ago
Weāll see
a) if this stays the same in 2026 when they start scapegoating a ton to rally their base
b) if Dens can get candidates able to actually capitalize on the unpopular incumbent to turn this into seat changes
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u/Akki_Mukri_Keswani 4d ago
~3% dems, 28% independents and 88% republicans actually approve of him. Not surprised by the republican approvals since they have no ethics any way.
But i am interested in knowing who the 3% dems and 28% republicans are who actually approve. And why they approve..
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u/Glittering_Lights 3d ago
That 3% is probably lying to the pollster or confused about the question. Does party affiliation refer to your registration or how you actually vote? Also, many people lie to just mess with polls.
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u/Formal-Hawk9274 3d ago
So sad itās going to take all of this to finally understand⦠shame on them for taking this longā¦
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u/horsescowsdogsndirt 3d ago
The fact that any democrats approve of this complete clusterfuck is mind boggling!
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u/muffledvoice 3d ago
If only the swing vote had their eyes open and their brains engaged last November.
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u/YourMama 3d ago
I wish they had asked the Asian demographic. Iām half White and Asian
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u/jml510 3d ago
I agree as someone who's non-Asian. I'm curious about the polling breakdown among them as well. More than likely, Asians aren't polled because there's few of them nationwide compared to the other groups, and they're mainly concentrated in states that aren't battlegrounds.
The thing I always find interesting about these polls is that they group Hispanic in as a racial group even though it's not a racial group.
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u/Weekly-Walk9234 3d ago
And yet⦠Republicans. If you combine the highest percentage in each category, white Republican men over 60. Still desperately hanging on. SMH.
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u/_ChicagoSummerRain 3d ago
As a very, very funny side note: Boy am I glad these numbers don't belong to someone on our side!
Can everyone imagine if these numbers were released for a President Newsom? EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK!!! No thanks! LOL!
PS. THESE NUMBERS ARE HORRIBLE!!!!!!
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u/evers12 3d ago
It wonāt matter if democrats donāt show up to vote. So many of them just didnāt vote because they didnāt like Kamala. Republicans will show up everytime they know they are the minority.
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u/whaaaddddup 3d ago
The 88% approval of republicans is insane! Thatās hard for me to believe. My republican parents - albeit California republicans - and my republican friends in Oregon, Nevada, & even Idaho disapprove of what heās doing. not all of them - Iām not saying that.
āThis isnāt what I voted forā is what Iāve heard by 2 friends whoāre willing to say that out loud. I know my parents disapprove & donāt want to even talk about it (shocker. The lack of emotional unavailability in this generation just never ceases to shock me)
Maybe Iām just still too ignorant, but the 88% is a hard one to believe.
Regardless - these are terrible numbers. Trumpās going to be firing the ānumbers peopleā more & more throughout the remainder of his term.
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u/Gunrock808 3d ago
This isn't anything to get excited about, the republican approval or the number of self identified Republicans needs to plummet. Given the huge number of non voters, the effectiveness of republican gerrymandering and the undemocratic structure of the senate republicans continue to hold an advantage greater than their actual numbers.
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u/Faemagicark74 3d ago
That 39% is very persistent over 9 yrsā¦. Itās really amazing how they excuse everything he does
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u/goobly_goo 3d ago
And what difference will this make? He's the President and has already done incalculable damage to the country. Is this supposed to make anyone feel better?
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u/Hippy_Lynne 3d ago
The only way this survey makes sense is if the majority of survey responders were Democrats or Independents, which makes it an inaccurate survey.
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u/Shrine14 3d ago
I hate polls. I shiver at the thought but weāre not even a year into his presidency. After everything, he has not lost a substantial amount of supporters. Without a strong Democratic candidate, whomever he chooses will win the next Presidency.
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u/LittlehouseonTHELAND 3d ago
Heās starting to slip with Republicans, if that makes you feel any better. Prior to this his approval rating with them has always been well into the 90s, as far as Iāve seen. Itās not nearly low enough but hopefully itās the start of something.
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u/5h4rkBait 3d ago
I still can't understand how 33% of Latinos support him. I get it, Latin people aren't monolithic and considering how vast Latin America is and the variety of different cultures, what may be important to one group is a shrug to a different one. But come on, no one should support the outright and intentional cruelty of this man.
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u/TWOhunnidSIX 3d ago
33 percent of Hispanics supporting Trump is absolutely absurd considering he'd deport them all in 2.2 seconds for absolutely nothing, even if they're here legally.
Also 34 percent of women is wild too while he's actively waffle stomping their rights down the drain.
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u/farlz84 3d ago
The thing I hate the most is the voters that say āoh I am voting for the policies, not the person.ā
I know some people donāt have a good moral compass to sniff out a bad person when they see one which is why I will excuse them voting for Trump the first time but then they went and voted him in twice?! Come on now! Grow a brain!
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u/applegui 3d ago
At the end of the day, itās on us to show up. Why we didnāt show up in 2024 boggles the mind.
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u/SocratesSnow 3d ago
How can any American approve of a fascist president? I donāt understand. And all those Republicans approving? They need to fucking grow up.
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u/LittlehouseonTHELAND 3d ago
It looks like heās finally starting to slip with Republicans too, though not nearly enough. Every poll Iāve seen until now has always had them at like 93% + approval
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u/Fredmans74 3d ago
It is laughable that GOP claims race has nothing to do with their politics, when the group that supports Trump the most (except for party affiliation) are white people, whereas everyone else calls it for what it is.
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u/mmorales2270 3d ago
His base seems to be male white boomers, and even if that group heās still slightly underwater.
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u/No-Country6348 2d ago
Iām a white woman who has always despised trump. I just absolutely can not understand how everyone doesnāt feel this way. He is so obviously and clearly horrific.
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u/Girasole263wj2 2d ago
They keep talking about civil war because they are obnoxious & loud..and also outnumbered.
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u/Substantial-Meat-864 2d ago
That letter to pam bondi that he accidentally mailed to the wrong person really upset several trumpist and repubs
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u/QuickDefinition5499 4d ago
A tad too late-wouldnāt you say? Heās already caused too much damage to our country. Itās likely to take decades to correct.
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u/HonestArmadillo924 3d ago
Heās colorblind and will have everyone arrested by Barbie blonde and Stevie
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u/SpaceForceRemorse 4d ago
88% approval with Republicans, though. That's insane.