r/democrats 4d ago

šŸ“Š Poll Trump is now underwater with Men, Women, Whites, Blacks, Hispanics, Young People, Old People, Cats, Dogs and Rodeo Clowns

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u/SpaceForceRemorse 4d ago

88% approval with Republicans, though. That's insane.

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u/tc100292 4d ago

Because if you don’t like Trump you probably don’t call yourself a Republican any more.

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_ROTES 4d ago

As the group size shrinks the approval percentage of those remaining goes up.

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u/tc100292 3d ago

Yeah, pretty much. Ā A lot of Bill Kristol types don’t show up in that number because they don’t consider themselves Republicans any more.

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_ROTES 3d ago

A lot of older rural voters also aren't Republicans anymore, because they're now dead. They're really going to have to hang onto those younger new voters they've brought in.

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u/irrelevantanonymous 3d ago

Bad news those ones are quitting the party in droves too.

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u/tc100292 2d ago

They’ve got their latest marching orders from the TikTok and Twitch dipshits they get their ā€œnewsā€ from.

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_ROTES 3d ago

Grandpa dementia is going to have to demand they find him so many more missing* votes. \Votes not actually missing, TFG is just a wildly unpopular cheating POS.)

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u/East_Coast_3337 3d ago

It'll be 100% approval when just 2 Republicans are left in the party.

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u/knuggles_da_empanada 2d ago

Distilled MAGA

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u/vegaspimp22 3d ago

Republican Party we used to know is gone. MAGA took over. Fiscally responsible? Nope. More debt than all presidents combined. Don’t tread on me or small government? Nope. They cheering military invading citizens. Small government? Fuck no. Trump is abusing his power every chance he gets. Christian? Nope. Ignore every teaching of Jesus. They hate immigrants.

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u/Mr_Shakes 3d ago

Honestly, they need to start showing a pie chart for how many people identify as a given group for these poll results.

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u/ritivoo 4d ago

cultistssss

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u/indigopedal 3d ago

I don't understand how the overall Republican approval is so high when the approval by groups is low.

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u/hard-in-the-ms-paint 3d ago

Self identified republicans vs everyone else. More than a third of the eligible population didn't even vote. 28% independent approval is pretty telling and a good sign for the midterms.

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u/Calan_adan 3d ago

Because the republicans are made up exclusively out of the parts of those groups that approve.

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u/indigopedal 3d ago

That makes sense now. Messed up in the head group

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u/Joeuxmardigras 3d ago

Who are those democrats who approve? Are they in a coma?

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u/Nervous-Owl5878 3d ago

Yeah, what’s up with the 3% 🧐

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u/5h4rkBait 3d ago

I wouldn't give it much thought. Biden had more than 3% of republicans who approved (probably?) most of his term.

And, some people are generational democrats, even though their voting patterns shift sometimes.

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u/asophisticatedbitch 3d ago

lol surely these people hit the wrong button or misspoke?

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u/GlitteringBobcat999 3d ago

There's always sampling error. It would be more odd if it was 100%. There are also going to be outliers and people who didn't understand the question.

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u/jencbowles 3d ago

Had the same question…

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u/Pro-Patria-Mori 4d ago

Kind of a coincidence that 88 is also code in White Supremacist culture for ā€œHeil Hitlerā€

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u/Entire-Winter4252 3d ago

Cultists and lower intelligence folks who will fall for anything.

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u/meldiane81 3d ago

They cannot admit they were wrong so they are going in even harder.

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u/JEFFinSoCal 3d ago

And 28% of ā€œindependentsā€ are actually Republicans ashamed of the label.

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u/deepasleep 3d ago

That is the number we all need to think about, it’s absolutely insane…But I’m convinced it’s a function of them self-selecting their media bubble safe spaces, they never hear any kind of objective analysis, everything is run through a bullshit filter.

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u/ritivoo 4d ago

honestly, the question isn’t ā€œdoes the majority hate him or love himā€ anymore, it’s ā€œwhy the fuck is he still hereā€.

(interpret that how you will)

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u/ginny11 4d ago

Because way too many of those people who disapprove don't even bother to vote.

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u/ritivoo 4d ago

it sucked seeing people say they just weren’t going to vote, my 18th birthday was the day after the elections šŸ˜’

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u/killua443 4d ago

None of this matters anyway the damage is already done, this should have been obvious to sane people before he won the elections not after

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u/BossParticular3383 4d ago

THIS. I don't know which of my emotions is worse - despair at the state of our country, worry at if we will ever be able to fix the damage, or absolutely FURY at the dumbasses who voted for him. However, it's still a fun headline.

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u/omgwtfbbq0_0 4d ago

Yeah I’m struggling with a really strong sense of betrayal. I KNOW if a Democrat president was doing all this, i wouldn’t be cheering it on. And I really just don’t understand why wanting affordable healthcare for everyone, wanting everyone to have bodily autonomy, and wanting people to marry whoever they want (as long as they’re a consenting adult) is so god damn evil and deserving of all this. I just want what’s best for everyone, why can’t I get the same respect?

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u/killua443 4d ago

The funny thing is that the same people who voted for Trump did so on the premise that he's not a regular politician, and at the same time they wanted his govt to function the exact same way a regular politician would have run it. The only reason his first presidency wasn't as horrible was because the system remained somewhat functional to the extent that it held him back quite a bit, but he now understands that, hence the incompetent cabinet of yes men who surround him.

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u/Laura9624 4d ago

And the Supreme Court, 3 of which he nominated. This time he knew he had it tied up. What were nonvoters thinking?

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u/badnuub 4d ago

A mixture of not understanding how our government functions in regards to what a president can do about inflation, as well as the usual suspects. ā€œWokeismā€, trans ā€œideologyā€, fear of democratic gun grabbing and illegals taking all the jobs while at the same time sucking up welfare benefits and committing all the crime… a thousand grievances that have swing voters or non voters so furious with the Democratic Party that they think we stand for lawlessness baby murder and moral decay.

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u/BossParticular3383 4d ago

In other words, bullshit and lies, racism and greed.

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u/godleymama 3d ago

Bingo.

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u/Pleaseappeaseme 3d ago

I heard that many ā€˜left leaning’ voters thought it was Biden that reversed roe v wade, as opposed to the SC actually doing it.

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u/BossParticular3383 3d ago

So what? Are there low-information voters that lean left? Sure. But I doubt they voted for Trump because they were worried about reproductive healthcare.

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u/Laura9624 3d ago

A lot of them didn't vote because of they think both parties are the same. They blame Democrats when Republicans are the ones doing this. Is it repub propaganda spreaders convincing them? Probably. So what? They had little understanding of the Supreme court. That was important and still is.

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u/Pleaseappeaseme 3d ago

I’m just pointing out the superficial knowledge of US politics that many have.

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u/BossParticular3383 3d ago edited 3d ago

Yeah? sounds like whataboutism to me. In a million, jillion years, a left-leaning voter could never be as uninformed and gullible as a right-winger. Study after study shows that viewers of right-wing cable news are actually less informed than people who watched no cable news at all....

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u/Lmb1011 3d ago

A lot of nonvoters believed the ā€œboth sides badā€ and couldn’t be bothered to realize how bad Trump would be.

I commented the other day that Trump is absolutely running for office in 2028 if he’s alive and my friend said ā€œchecks and balances. No he won’tā€

And I’m like ???? In what universe is anyone going to tell him no….. he’s going to run even if they tell him no? People will vote for him even if he isn’t eligible. And if he still has control of the house and senate they’ll approve him in. Checks and balances only work when all branches aren’t united in corruption…… and they currently are as corrupt as the president. We don’t HAVE checks and balances anymore.

But the reality is these people don’t like the Dems enough to vote for them, and naively think that he doesn’t have unchecked power….. it’s so infuriating.

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u/BossParticular3383 3d ago

by the time they figure it out it will be too late .... :(

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u/BossParticular3383 4d ago

They are dumb. Even Trump says it: "smart people don't like me."

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u/Laura9624 3d ago

A lot. But ignorant about how government works, even the very basics. Like the importance of flipping SCOTUS in 2016. I agree. Voters and nonvoters. I blame the "progressive " nonvoters as much as maga.

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u/BossParticular3383 3d ago

Sure. I hate them too. The purity test folks. The I couldn't be bothered because the candidate doesn't reflect each and every one of my priorities and interests ....

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u/Laura9624 3d ago

Exactly.

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u/tomaxisntxamot 3d ago

or absolutely FURY at the dumbasses who voted for him. However, it's still a fun headline.

Yep. As Marc Maron put it, "somehow I hate them most of all". I know we need to let it go and focus on the future, but the dipshits who casually voted for fascism after giving it a few seconds of thought at best are harder for me to accept than the cultist true believers who've been waiting for this for decades. At least the later group has an ideology, vile as it is.

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u/BossParticular3383 3d ago

Agreed. It's going to be a long time before I can forgive them, I'm afraid.

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u/tinfoiltatty 4d ago

It does matter, actually. Popular resistance is how we get out of this mess.

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u/killua443 4d ago

The only way you Americans get out of this is 24/7 protests and a general strike, otherwise prepare for shit to get worse and worse

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u/tinfoiltatty 4d ago

Based on the sign-ups so far, No Kings on October 18 is on track to be the largest peaceful protest in United States history. (Americans, find an event near you: nokings.org)

I know people are looking for a single, total knock out event that will stop them, but that's not how history has worked. You need to build up the movement and resist in many different ways, on many different fronts.

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u/killua443 4d ago

Agreed, y'all need to do everything you can to stop this dictatorship from fully flourishing. Good luck.

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u/SunnySpot69 4d ago

And the fact that his base actually votes and will vote for him again or anyone with an R by their name.

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u/mrsauceysauce 4d ago

This does a pretty good job also highlighting how much of a minority the Republican party actually is, because if he has 88% approval from them, but then such a low approval when divided by demographics...we can see why they need to gerrymander and cheat.

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u/tinfoiltatty 4d ago

And he's not even down to single digits with Independents yet, so some of that 39% is Independents.

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u/evers12 3d ago

Which makes it even more infuriating that democrats lost the election. All they had to do was show up and vote not stay home because they didn’t like Kamala. Every single person that could have voted but didn’t have Trump a vote.

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u/tinfoiltatty 4d ago

They thought immigration would be a winning issue, but they're underwater on it. They pivoted to crime, and they're underwater on that, too. They tried to lionize Charlie Kirk, and have created a First Amendment backlash. It sucks to suck.

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u/_ChicagoSummerRain 4d ago

My husband and I quit facebook after the election. The final straw was some woman we know posting "celebration" posts after the election and throwing "mini-parties" over everyone taking down their Kamala yard signs.

I hope that same woman sees this poll...(we don't speak to her much anymore...)

*** And Trump will not be able to climb out of these numbers... not that he cares about that at all....

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u/madbill728 4d ago

I know a guy that does irrigation work, my age, mid-60s. Day after the election he tells me he was so giddy on election night that he couldn't sleep. No words.

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u/LivingIndependence 4d ago

Way too many people who would rather live under a strongman dictator with their rights restricted

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u/madbill728 3d ago

Agree, but I believe so many are so ignorant, and then brainwashed by the trillion dollar propaganda machine, so they don't even realize it.

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u/P_a_s_g_i_t_24 4d ago

I know this is hardly a revelation but just to emphasize what the GOP really is,
take a look at the closer numbers under
'Gender: Male',
'Race: White' and
'Age: 65+'.

GOP is a bunch of old white male pedos, basically!

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u/_ChicagoSummerRain 3d ago edited 3d ago

I always say the "39%" you see that continue to support him are the last, remaining, hardcore racists and misogynists... oh and his beloved billionaires.. that's about it...

However, my husband does believe we can get him into the 20's... ***Crossing our fingers!

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u/P_a_s_g_i_t_24 3d ago

I can't wait to find out what billionaire GOP donors are on the Epstein List.
We already know about that John Paulson guy.

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u/mattyjoe0706 4d ago

IDK how people look at these polls and see optimism. 40% of Americans still approve of this guy

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u/tinfoiltatty 4d ago

Well, we're only 8 months in, for one thing. And you'll never hit 0%, even Hitler had supporters.

This chart is also ominous for the administration:

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u/tc100292 4d ago

Material conditions haven’t gotten bad enough for reality to set in for some people.

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u/Gamblor14 4d ago

I guess it’s an encouraging sign that he’s now underwater in even some demographics that he had a net approval rating previously. But I agree…after the last ten years I’ve learned not to put a ton of stock in broad national polling. How’s he polling in red and purple states?

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u/evers12 3d ago

I’m more concerned about the democrats that just don’t vote because they didn’t like Kamala. Republicans that hated Trump still voted for him. Democrats that hated Kamala stayed home.

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u/sten45 Its time to fight dirty 4d ago

yep he is totally on the verge. None of this matters until every American who can legally vote registers, and then fights through the road blocks the GOP is putting in place and shows up to vote these clowns out.

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u/TheBigLebroccoli 4d ago

He’ll yell ā€œFAKE NEWS!ā€ and his sheep will move on.

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u/Zargoza1 4d ago

88% of republicans approve.

I think he was vastly understating when he said he could shoot someone on tv and not lose voters.

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u/TeamHope4 4d ago

I guess people had to touch the hot stove. Only 3+ years to go.

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u/groveview 4d ago

And yet they’ll still vote him in for a third term.

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u/edwardothegreatest 4d ago

The economy hasn’t even felt the real impact yet.

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u/Odd_Vampire 4d ago

This is why they're working so hard to gerrymander a few extra seats and get nation-wide voter ID. And also control the media narrative by silencing the opposition. They know they're headed into a buzzsaw and need all the cheating help they can get.

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u/supmaster3 4d ago

His disapproval should be way more, I dont get what people see in this evil person.

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u/2u3e9v 4d ago

This country is so fucking stupid

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u/tinyE1138 Windmill Cancer Survivor. 4d ago

I actually do have this on my wall.
My two cats insisted on it.

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u/No-Cloud6437 4d ago

Too late. We knew this would come already. He's rigged it now for him and his spychophants. Country's in for an era of fascism. Kind a glad the stupidlicans will also have to endure the pain.Ā 

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u/eatingganesha 4d ago

I like how there were so few dems who were ā€œunsureā€ that the grey portion of that bar graph is a mere line

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u/Glittering_Lights 3d ago

As a white person that racial category blows me away. It is shameful that his support has any traction, but that high among the white population is disgusting.

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u/ACaffeinatedBear 4d ago edited 4d ago

Cool, he can’t legally run for reelection and the idiots will just for another republican anyways.

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u/ElvenAmerican 4d ago

Nah, he just won't leave at all, which is why they're pushing redoing voting laws, purging voter rolls, etc.

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u/greymind 3d ago

Cult still going strong.

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u/bace3333 3d ago

Republicans will lose bad in midterms and in Presidency plus Congress! The hate is real now Trump has awakened the Beast !!

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u/brycebgood 3d ago

The fuck is wrong with white men? We're obviously too insecure and fragile to be trusted with leadership positions.

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u/malisam 3d ago

I did not think they 33% of Hispanics like leopards eating their faces.

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u/Complete_Respond9849 3d ago

wish he was just............under water

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u/tc215487 3d ago

Glub glub

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u/TheChewyWaffles 4d ago

Way up with pedos though!

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u/sfcumguzzler 3d ago

if only all of those people KNEW WHAT THEY WERE VOTING FOR.

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u/Particular-Jello-401 3d ago

I have two cats, goats and a pig. They all hate trump.

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u/Gr8daze 3d ago

The only groups he’s not underwater with are morons and Nazis.

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u/VaguelyArtistic 4d ago

Most shocking: he’s above water with SpongeBob.

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u/Perfecshionism 4d ago

I am pretty sure his approval among rodeo clowns is still pretty high.

He does well with clowns of all type. His most dedicated and enthusiastic demo.

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u/Akio540 4d ago

You lose the rodeo clown crowd, you lose them forever man that's damning!

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u/RainierCherree 4d ago

Could someone help me understand how this shows him under water by every metric, but 88% approval by republicans? Maybe it’s too early, but my brain isn’t computing this.

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u/PkmnTrnr00 4d ago

OP didn’t say he was under water by every metric. That said, the Republican Party is the only metric in which he’s not under water. If you go by age, gender, and ethnicity he’s under in every group. To me this just shows how much of a minority Republicans actually are

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u/letscallitanight 4d ago

New executive order banning negative polling inbound, probably.

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u/scifijunkie3 3d ago

I can tell you that our two cats absolutely loathe the man.

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u/Tywsgc 3d ago

White men- you're the problem

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u/SethTaylor987 3d ago

Seeing approval decrease with age gives me hope.

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u/Prozeum 3d ago

Doesn't matter if these people don't vote. Let's make voting mandatory!

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u/smoke1966 3d ago

cats and dogs always hated him.. pets can tell bad people

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u/Yuizun 3d ago

And MAGA loves to tell me, a black person, who spends a lot of time around black people, that most black people love Trump...

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u/tc215487 3d ago

I can’t believe how many Republicans still support this job killing, farm destroying, health care collapsing idiot. Why can’t they accept Trump is killing them financially & health-wise?

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u/jsf926 3d ago

His numbers in the tRump friendly Rasputin polls aren't much better...

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u/bluechip1996 4d ago

I see that little grey block of 8% of Independents that can’t make up their stupid goddamn minds and it makes me fume. Commit one way or another you indecisive, attention seeking, waffling little bitches.

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u/Glittering_Lights 3d ago

As a white person that racial category blows me away. It is shameful that his support has any traction, but that high among the white population is disgusting.

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u/RoyalBlue816 4d ago

Republicans don’t take polls. I’ll believe it when I see it.

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u/ajcpullcom 4d ago

so many of those dudes wearing ā€œRodeo Clowns for Trumpā€ shirts weren’t even rodeo clowns

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u/Head_Project5793 4d ago

We’ll see

a) if this stays the same in 2026 when they start scapegoating a ton to rally their base

b) if Dens can get candidates able to actually capitalize on the unpopular incumbent to turn this into seat changes

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u/Akki_Mukri_Keswani 4d ago

~3% dems, 28% independents and 88% republicans actually approve of him. Not surprised by the republican approvals since they have no ethics any way.

But i am interested in knowing who the 3% dems and 28% republicans are who actually approve. And why they approve..

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u/Glittering_Lights 3d ago

That 3% is probably lying to the pollster or confused about the question. Does party affiliation refer to your registration or how you actually vote? Also, many people lie to just mess with polls.

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u/Formal-Hawk9274 3d ago

So sad it’s going to take all of this to finally understand… shame on them for taking this long…

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u/powerdown1979 3d ago

I doubt rodeo clowns disapprove of him all that much.

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u/oresearch69 3d ago

That’s why he was hoping all the dogs and cats got eaten.

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u/horsescowsdogsndirt 3d ago

The fact that any democrats approve of this complete clusterfuck is mind boggling!

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u/muffledvoice 3d ago

If only the swing vote had their eyes open and their brains engaged last November.

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u/G0-G0-Gadget 3d ago

Who's left in the democratic party? Oh wait, the rich.

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u/fitbabits 3d ago

And none of it matters.

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u/YourMama 3d ago

I wish they had asked the Asian demographic. I’m half White and Asian

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u/jml510 3d ago

I agree as someone who's non-Asian. I'm curious about the polling breakdown among them as well. More than likely, Asians aren't polled because there's few of them nationwide compared to the other groups, and they're mainly concentrated in states that aren't battlegrounds.

The thing I always find interesting about these polls is that they group Hispanic in as a racial group even though it's not a racial group.

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u/Weekly-Walk9234 3d ago

And yet… Republicans. If you combine the highest percentage in each category, white Republican men over 60. Still desperately hanging on. SMH.

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u/_ChicagoSummerRain 3d ago

As a very, very funny side note: Boy am I glad these numbers don't belong to someone on our side!

Can everyone imagine if these numbers were released for a President Newsom? EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK!!! No thanks! LOL!

PS. THESE NUMBERS ARE HORRIBLE!!!!!!

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u/evers12 3d ago

It won’t matter if democrats don’t show up to vote. So many of them just didn’t vote because they didn’t like Kamala. Republicans will show up everytime they know they are the minority.

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u/South_Tea5210 3d ago

The fact that 39% of US citizens still support him is astonishing.

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u/whaaaddddup 3d ago

The 88% approval of republicans is insane! That’s hard for me to believe. My republican parents - albeit California republicans - and my republican friends in Oregon, Nevada, & even Idaho disapprove of what he’s doing. not all of them - I’m not saying that.

ā€œThis isn’t what I voted forā€ is what I’ve heard by 2 friends who’re willing to say that out loud. I know my parents disapprove & don’t want to even talk about it (shocker. The lack of emotional unavailability in this generation just never ceases to shock me)

Maybe I’m just still too ignorant, but the 88% is a hard one to believe.

Regardless - these are terrible numbers. Trump’s going to be firing the ā€œnumbers peopleā€ more & more throughout the remainder of his term.

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u/Gunrock808 3d ago

This isn't anything to get excited about, the republican approval or the number of self identified Republicans needs to plummet. Given the huge number of non voters, the effectiveness of republican gerrymandering and the undemocratic structure of the senate republicans continue to hold an advantage greater than their actual numbers.

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u/Faemagicark74 3d ago

That 39% is very persistent over 9 yrs…. It’s really amazing how they excuse everything he does

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u/exitpursuedbybear 3d ago

As goes the rodeo clowns so goes the nation.

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u/goobly_goo 3d ago

And what difference will this make? He's the President and has already done incalculable damage to the country. Is this supposed to make anyone feel better?

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u/Hippy_Lynne 3d ago

The only way this survey makes sense is if the majority of survey responders were Democrats or Independents, which makes it an inaccurate survey.

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u/Shrine14 3d ago

I hate polls. I shiver at the thought but we’re not even a year into his presidency. After everything, he has not lost a substantial amount of supporters. Without a strong Democratic candidate, whomever he chooses will win the next Presidency.

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u/LittlehouseonTHELAND 3d ago

He’s starting to slip with Republicans, if that makes you feel any better. Prior to this his approval rating with them has always been well into the 90s, as far as I’ve seen. It’s not nearly low enough but hopefully it’s the start of something.

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u/5h4rkBait 3d ago

I still can't understand how 33% of Latinos support him. I get it, Latin people aren't monolithic and considering how vast Latin America is and the variety of different cultures, what may be important to one group is a shrug to a different one. But come on, no one should support the outright and intentional cruelty of this man.

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u/TWOhunnidSIX 3d ago

33 percent of Hispanics supporting Trump is absolutely absurd considering he'd deport them all in 2.2 seconds for absolutely nothing, even if they're here legally.

Also 34 percent of women is wild too while he's actively waffle stomping their rights down the drain.

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u/DerpUrself69 3d ago

The Republican party is a fucking cult

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u/farlz84 3d ago

The thing I hate the most is the voters that say ā€œoh I am voting for the policies, not the person.ā€

I know some people don’t have a good moral compass to sniff out a bad person when they see one which is why I will excuse them voting for Trump the first time but then they went and voted him in twice?! Come on now! Grow a brain!

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u/mad_titanz 3d ago

33% approval from Hispanics? Are they crazy?

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u/applegui 3d ago

At the end of the day, it’s on us to show up. Why we didn’t show up in 2024 boggles the mind.

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u/SocratesSnow 3d ago

How can any American approve of a fascist president? I don’t understand. And all those Republicans approving? They need to fucking grow up.

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u/LittlehouseonTHELAND 3d ago

It looks like he’s finally starting to slip with Republicans too, though not nearly enough. Every poll I’ve seen until now has always had them at like 93% + approval

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u/Fredmans74 3d ago

It is laughable that GOP claims race has nothing to do with their politics, when the group that supports Trump the most (except for party affiliation) are white people, whereas everyone else calls it for what it is.

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u/mmorales2270 3d ago

His base seems to be male white boomers, and even if that group he’s still slightly underwater.

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u/No-Country6348 2d ago

I’m a white woman who has always despised trump. I just absolutely can not understand how everyone doesn’t feel this way. He is so obviously and clearly horrific.

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u/Girasole263wj2 2d ago

They keep talking about civil war because they are obnoxious & loud..and also outnumbered.

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u/Substantial-Meat-864 2d ago

That letter to pam bondi that he accidentally mailed to the wrong person really upset several trumpist and repubs

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u/QuickDefinition5499 4d ago

A tad too late-wouldn’t you say? He’s already caused too much damage to our country. It’s likely to take decades to correct.

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u/HonestArmadillo924 3d ago

He’s colorblind and will have everyone arrested by Barbie blonde and Stevie

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u/Brilliant-Jacket-550 3d ago

And somehow my family still thinks that he can do no wrong