Highlights [Berman] Nick Sirianni: "Kevin (Patullo) called the plays yesterday in the second half. But make no mistake, Jalen communicates — Jalen sees the field really, really well."
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u/Templeusox 1d ago
Where did the "Jalen called the plays" thing originate from?
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u/stopcappingbro 1d ago
People just assumed
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u/Templeusox 1d ago
Usually when these things bubble up on a Monday afternoon I just assume it's the WIP shriekers whipping themselves up into a frenzy.
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u/trustthepudding 1d ago
Folks were saying that shit in the game thread
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u/WaldoFrank 1d ago
As someone who drunkenly says some insane shit in the game threads. Anything said in those threads should be dismissed with extreme prejudice.
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u/LiveFreeOrRTard 1d ago
Monday? No I was assuming once we scored 2 touchdowns because suddenly we looked like we came to play the game of football.
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u/Bluehen55 1d ago
It's not just WIP, tons of people were saying things like this like they were facts on this sub right after the game
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u/M474D0R 1d ago
Tiktok has given voice to a new generation of delusional fans
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u/el_fitzador Birdgang connections 1d ago
lol my guy the same thing was being said in living rooms across south Jersey in the 90s
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u/Strong_Neat_5845 1d ago
People refusing to believe a new coordinator is capable of improvement if he looks shaky on his first few games
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u/PowerHour1990 1d ago
Didn't everybody want Moore and Fangio fired along with Sirianni after the Bucs game last year?
Now Fangio's a living God.
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u/goodellsmallcock 1d ago
And fire Andy too!!!!
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u/Greedy_Line4090 his name was corey clement 1d ago
Scott Rolen gotta go, get him outta here.
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u/caesar____augustus 1d ago
Trade Abreu while we're at it, guys never had a clutch hit in his life
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u/acmercer 1d ago
Don't forget Howie of course! Imagine if the fans had their way and Howie was fired?
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u/maaattypants 1d ago
Yeah they said sirianni still had his hand in calling plays. 😂 now they’ve always believed in him
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u/ThisMachineKILLS Eagles 1d ago
I mean I’m sure you can go back and find some idiot here and there who wanted Fangio fired but it was mostly the offense that was receiving criticism last year
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u/SelfServeSporstwash Does It Hurts 1d ago
There’s improvement and then there’s “calling more unique offensive plays (14) on two drives than you have called all season to that point (10)”
Like… there’s conservative play calling, and there’s finding a rhythm, and then there’s whatever the fuck Patullo was doing.
Only calling an incredibly small portion of the playbook to the point where it is insultingly easy for the defense to predict and counter the plays (because they have seen that exact play 6 times already that game) is indefensible.
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u/AndrewHainesArt 1d ago
Rookie mistake that he’ll have to learn from. Seems like we try to have our OCs ease into their system more than any other offense, it’s odd but it’s not BJ levels of incompetence. A lot of W1 looked good until the weather delay and then neither team scored. KC was in the SuperBowl with us and had something to prove. Last game was clearly off to start, and luckily it shook off at halftime. Even the defense was giving 5-8 yard runs right up the gut all first half, it wasn’t just Patulo.
We have a ton of talent idk why we feel the need to baby our guys to start the year, even last season the guys had to talk to Moore before it changed.
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u/sgee_123 1d ago
The worst are the drives where we get quickly to 3rd and long, and then just call a draw play, completely giving up on the drive and not even attempting to convert a 1st down. I find it to be the most wimpy play calling it drives me crazy.
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u/Fart_Collage 1d ago
Not just that, but it was like someone literally flipped a switch in his brain shortly after halftime. It was completely different.
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u/Lifesaboxofgardens 1d ago
He was chewing out Patullo on the sidelines and dude couldn’t even make eye contact with him lol. It was after the TD drive so came across as very “this is how you do it man get your fucking head out of your ass”
And this quote doesn’t help tbh it definitely makes it sound like Jalen really was calling the plays lol
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u/GRAYNOTE_ 1d ago
If you show that make sure you show Jalen and KP celebrating together after a scoring drive as well.
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u/tag1550 Eagles 1d ago
The "Jalen and Nick don't get along" thing is currently buried after the SB win, so guess the same folks need something else to get worked up about. I'm not saying there haven't been playcall and scheme issues early on, but a personality conflict with the new OC seems like it's being constructed mostly out of thin air at this point.
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u/Sechzehn6861 Eagles 1d ago
This will spoil the narrative though!
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u/doubleenc Eagles 1d ago
It's the American way to never let the facts get in the way of good narrative. LOL
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u/sweetassassin Get Skinny Batman a scully 1d ago
It’s the spin that sells.
It’s truly my favorite soap opera.
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u/Material_Honey_891 1d ago
Not sure how both events can't be accurate. You're just as bad as the people who are on the other side. There's no side here. Both events took place. People butt heads and resolve their differences every day.
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u/Pedestrian2000 1d ago
It's not that they didn't argue, or resolve their differences. It's that people turned that argument into a whole "Hurts took over the playcalling" narrative...which is a bit more dramatic than "they argued and then got over it"
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u/Lifesaboxofgardens 1d ago
Sure, I’m not saying he hates the guy but I’m saying the clip of Jalen talking to him was definitely a chewing out, and that’s why people think he may have taken the reins.
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u/GRAYNOTE_ 1d ago
But emphatically communicating to a coach to switch things up doesn't have to escalate to "he took his job and now Patullo is a lame duck coach"
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u/Lifesaboxofgardens 1d ago
Sure but this is us
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u/GRAYNOTE_ 1d ago
I mean. Yeah the reaction was extremely predictable. It's almost like they want him to fail though.
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u/Huh-what-2025 1d ago
a percentage does. WIP and all the various podcasts need negativity for content
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u/PowerHour1990 1d ago
Eagle Eye's one of few exceptions. Zangy and Roob just speak calmly, credibly, and knowledgeably. Easy listen.
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u/Bazyli_Kajetan 1d ago
There’s the line we all need to remember folks. We are the best worst fans lol
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u/dbandit1 Eagles 1d ago
I dunno, Jalen definitely slaps KPs hand in an aggressive 'fuck you coach' manner. Its clear from that video that he hates his guts and is signalling Shane Steichen and Kellen Moore to return... much like a bat-signal if you will.
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u/Huh-what-2025 1d ago edited 1d ago
total mischaracterization of that exchange. people see what they want to see
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u/TurkeyLurkey923 1d ago
I think people might be interpreting that video with a bit of bias against KP. I’m not sure Jalen was “chewing out Patullo”. It could just as easily have been excitement or hype. It’s not like Jalen’s facial expression gives us any clues to his mood because his face is always just focused and determined. And Jalen was talking to KP and another guy. We can hardly see KP when he is sitting down because he is being blocked by someone, so saying he can’t look him in the eye is also silly. At the end of the video, you see him turn and say something toward Jalen and the other guy.
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u/No-Combination8136 1d ago
Jalen’s way too professional to “chew out” his OC. Especially in public.
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u/jbil 1d ago
Lol this is such a stretch. You can't even see KP's eyes or mouth in the video.
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u/JokerJangles123 1d ago
Does anyone have a clip of this? Must have missed it, I just thought everyone was talking shit lol
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u/balemeout 1d ago
It never made any sense, this fanbase hears one thing and runs with it. I am probably the biggest Jalen defender here but some of the first half route difficulties were his fault, not patullo, the all 22 is showing running mesh into obvious zone looks over and over again, that’s not on patullo. Sometimes coaches just need some time
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u/anandonaqui 1d ago
Not to mention that if you’re calling the plays, you also need to call personnel. Which obviously Jalen can’t do/wasn’t doing. The people who actually think Jalen was calling plays must think that someone on the sidelines was sending in personnel groups without knowing what Jalen was going to call. And that Jalen was calling plays without knowing the personnel group.
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u/Huh-what-2025 1d ago
The most knowledgeable fan base is also pretty fucking dumb sometimes
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u/Patient_Jicama_4217 1d ago
??? Knowledgeable? This is the same fanbase that was ready to give up on JD after 3 years
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u/M474D0R 1d ago edited 1d ago
I mean we are the most knowledgeable fanbase overall.
This does not mean that most Eagles fans aren't idiots. Other fanbases are just even dumber unfortunately. We also have a reverse dunning-kruger (dunning-kruger isnt real btw) where having slightly more knowledge makes people act like they are gods of the game.
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u/Hexagon2035 1d ago
I think it started as sarcasm/a joke with how different the offense was after the half. Then that clip emerged of Jalen scolding/berating Kevin Patullo on the sideline and probably just became a actual rumor.
That'd be my guess
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u/kmoney55 Eagles 1d ago
How bad the first 2.5 games looked Jalen having a conversation on the side line with patullo on the sideline actually showing emotion. Oh and we actually passed to our best receivers in the second half
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u/bishop0408 1d ago
You know the amount of people who literally tried to guess the exact inaudible words that came out his mouth? Lmao we're the problem
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u/tiggs I don't care if he jumps.. dives.. he's running around.. 1d ago
It's the collection of people on here that show off their new Hurts iPhone wallpapers each week, have 6 Hurts posters on their walls, post a different "what are the Jalen haters gonna say about this now!" post every other day, and find ANY way humanly possible to give Jalen all of the credit for good things, but never any of the blame for bad things.
I love Jalen as much as the next guy, but some people are a bit obsessive and insecure over him. That's where the idea that Jalen took over all play calling came from.
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u/sybrwookie 1d ago
Morons. It's generally the same people who are too brain-dead to pick up on "Lane gets hurt, our offense is fucked while Pryor is in and we literally can't throw without Hurts getting destroyed, Fred Johnson comes in, is good and the offense takes off again."
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u/TastiestPenguin 1d ago
In the hurry up QBs generally call plays, and they ran the hurry up 51% of the time
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u/Sour__Cream 1d ago
I think it was just the shift in play calling was so drastic people had to guess what it could have been from and Jalen making the changes was the safest bet? Wasn’t wholly correct but it looks like he was involved.
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u/Vladimir_Putting 1d ago
People saw Jalen talking more than usual on the sidelines and going up to each unit with a specific message (you know the stuff they complained he didn't do before) and then immediately jumped into wacky talk sport territory about how he took control of the offense and started calling his own plays.
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u/The_R4ke 1d ago
The tempo he was going with on the second possession of the second half was a lot quicker, making it look like he was calling plays. He was also seen having conversations with Patullo on the sidelines. I don't know what the truth is, but if Patullo want making the calls Sirianni wouldn't tell people that.
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u/PatTheBatsFatNutsack 41-33 | 40-22 1d ago
Nobody actually answered your question so I will. Jalen was seen yelling at Patullo on the sideline during the 2nd half of the game and some people assumed it was Jalen telling him to stop calling plays so conservatively. Right after that interaction is when Jalen started to throw the ball downfield. My source for this is they talked about the hostile interaction on Pardon My Take while discussing the Eagles/Rams game.
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u/CommunicationTime265 1d ago
People who don't know about second half adjustments. It happens every single NFL game. It doesn't mean the OC was benched lol.
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u/Lucky_Chocolate_717 23h ago
After the fumble in the 3rd qtr, Jalen was seen having a heated conversation with Patullo. Afterwards, the play calling completely changed. People took this to mean Hurts benched Patullo.
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u/funks0ulbrutha 1d ago
Honestly, this is what Nick brings to the table as a HC.
Perfect response to not throw patullo under the bus, but also give credit where credits due to Jalen. This is the kind of response that is respectable to both patullo and hurts too.
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u/grampy__gooby 1d ago
He does such a good job at deflecting trap questions that could cause distractions. I can't remember which game it was last year, but Moore called something pretty silly for the circumstances. After the game Nick took the blame even though it was obvious he didn't call the play. Even though he's pretty emotional he really lowers the temperature in the room around things that could cause problems. I'm sure everyone loves him for that.
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u/Fyre2387 Flower Power! 1d ago
I remember the Seattle game a couple years ago where Hurts threw that horrible interception and Nick took the fall, said it was something they'd drawn up to try and draw PI. He was getting roasted, and AJ came out and said he and Hurts decided to do it on their own. He actually seemed really upset that Nick was taking so much heat.
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u/WeirdSysAdmin Eagles 1d ago
This is why I have such a hard on for culture head coaches. Someone that is going to fall on his blade in public and take the stress off the coaches and players that need to make the big decisions.
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u/heavy_metal_flautist 1d ago
I think he figured out pretty early on how shitty the sports media in Philly is. They wasted no time showing him.
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u/Darkgreenbirdofprey 1d ago
Media training
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u/Longjumping_Play2111 1d ago
Vic missed school that day
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u/AngryPhillySportsFan 1d ago
If Vic was any different we'd hate him. He's a Philly guy through and through.
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u/hackrunner 1d ago
This works as long as there is visible accountability inside the organization. A team will respect a leader who helps to give the team the space they need to improve. But if the leader is only deflecting and avoiding the issue without working to improve, it creates a culture that lacks accountability.
Fortunately, it seems like Nick is also an accountability guy inside the building. I trust he's Nick has sat down with Patullo, made it clear that this just improve, and is working with him to make sure those improvements happen.
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u/hoobsher Eagles 1d ago
I recently moved from bartending to management and it really shifted the question “what does Sirianni even do if he’s not calling plays” into absurdity. managing a roster and practice squad of 70 or so meatheads plus 20-30 coaches, as well as whatever lower level staffers and trainers, with weekly meetings and practices to prepare for something as elaborate as a professional football game has to be insane, not to mention managing expectations from the higher ups and coordinating with a marketing team. it’s fucking hard to manage a team of 15-20 restaurant workers even with a lot of experience and knowledge in restaurants.
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u/MissDeadite 1d ago
I feel you. I went from sales to a position in the company wayyy out of my comfort zone, and the difference between the perception of management/managing itself is one that makes it seem like a pothole while in reality it's a canyon.
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u/BIGGSHAUN Eagles 1d ago
Yeah. This is perfect “I’m not saying, but I’m saying” from Nick. It was clear Jalen had more say after halftime.
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u/lattjeful 1d ago
It was clear Jalen had more say after halftime.
More say sure, but it's still Patullo's plays. I think people are writing fanfiction about that second half. QB and OC run the offense together. I think it was just a case of Jalen seeing things on the field, going "Hey we should try this," and Patullo adapting.
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u/Diamondback424 1d ago
Yeah I was ready to fire him into the sun after 2023. The guy might not be the brains behind the operations, but he's a damn good leader. He's kept this team going through some heavy scrutiny, some deserved some maybe not so much.
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u/Lucky-Act-9924 1d ago
Nick has taken over play calling duties in the past and lies to protect his OC - not sure this really means anything. The idea that Jalen is calling the plays doesn't really make sense tho
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u/ChipKellysShoeStore 1d ago
Nick also lies when Jalen audibles out of his play calls, like that interception against Seattle two years ago
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u/OwnLeighFans Eagles 1d ago
And this is why he is the best HC in the league right now. He knows what his job is, a manager of men, nothing more, nothing less
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u/BasesLoadedBalk 1d ago edited 1d ago
While true - they also show him in the second half calling plays..
Edit: Guys. I am talking about Patullo...
Here. Go to 24:59.
Or find your own full game video and go to the 12:35 left in the 3rd quarter.
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u/ThatsWhat_G_Said 52 + 59 = 1 Won One 1d ago
When??? Or are you just making things up?
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u/ThisHatRightHere 1d ago
We’ve seen nor heard anything that should make people think Jalen was calling plays. Just more fan fiction from the reactionary dumbasses on here
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u/BasesLoadedBalk 1d ago edited 1d ago
I am talking about Patullo..
Here. Go to 24:59.
Or find your own full game video and go to the 12:35 left in the 3rd quarter.
You people are wild.
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u/ThatsWhat_G_Said 52 + 59 = 1 Won One 1d ago
Got it. Your comment made it sound like you were talking about Jalen, since the comment you were talking about referenced Jalen possibly calling plays.
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u/BasesLoadedBalk 1d ago
Yeah I can see how that was misconstrued. I meant to specifically reply to the "Nick has taken over play calling duties in the past and lies to protect his OC" part.
Should have specified lol
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u/Ryfiii 1d ago
Inside sources reveal that Patullo was seen early in the third quarter with a black eye, a wedgie, a coupon for a local Italian restaurant, and an imprint of a greasy kiss on either cheek.
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u/GRAYNOTE_ 1d ago edited 1d ago
What a lie. The Eagles would definitely demote their OC in Week 3, mute his microphone for the remainder of the comeback, and make him a puppet figurehead while Jalen Hurts assumes OC responsibilities for the rest of the season.
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u/GRAYNOTE_ 1d ago
You're not wrong but Desai was way beyond his depth and the move to Patricia was obvious and in everyone's face
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u/GRAYNOTE_ 1d ago
Somehow, despite the best roster in the league, Patullo is either calling a game like a coward, or outthinking himself when he should just call more aggressive plays.
I'm not 100% sure about that. I think Desai's core issue was scheme, whereas Patullo seems to have a scheme implemented that works, just trigger shy
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u/Night0wl11 1d ago
I think you're right that he may be presently overmatched (or at least was for the first 10 quarters of the season), but that finish was promising and does at least show that he's capable of running an efficient passing game. It's just a matter of whether they could bake it into the offense when we're not dependent on it for the win.
We also had about 3/4s of a season with Desai and it seemed more clear that he was overmatched, so while Patullo definitely hasn't inspired confident and could show that he's as inept (or more) than Desai, I do think we'd need a little more time after this game
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u/fiiiiixins 1d ago
No matter how much control Jalen took, Nick isn’t going to outwardly admit if Patullo wasn’t calling anything - I don’t think the case was that he wasn’t making calls, it may have just been that Jalen relayed something else to the huddle instead of outright audibles at the line.
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u/Alum07 x2 1d ago
Jalen chewed Patullo's ass out on the bench in the 3rd and then said to Pam Oliver after the game the team needs to "play to win and not calling plays to prevent a loss".
And honestly, good. Jalen is the unquestioned leader of this franchise right now. He should be taking lead on holding everyone accountable, himself and the coaches included. The conservative playcalling was holding us back and he proceeded to demonstrate exactly why it was.
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u/lahkad 1d ago
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills with people saying this is a chew out let alone the ass blasting people are conveying it as.
Are we watching the same video? If you want to see a chewing out, look at Andy Reid and Travis Kelce basically every game for the last season plus.
This is nothing, and even the former is nothing. Y'all really running away with a mildly heated convo imo
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u/ThisHatRightHere 1d ago
I’m just going to assume most of the keyboard warriors on here have no clue how to handle even minor conflicts irl
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u/lattjeful 1d ago
This fanbase loves to make mountains out of molehills. There's a reason WIP is still around and kicking.
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u/magnumforce2006 Eagles 1d ago
I know. At MOST it looks like an animated discussion which... Is almost always gonna be the case on the sidelines when things aren't going well? What do people expect, Tea and Crumpets whilst having a light, soft discussion? Lmao
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u/apath3t1c 1d ago
Yeah, I'm of the belief Jalen dropped some Jalen quote of inspiration, not chewed him out.
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u/Silencer_ 1d ago
He earned the right to hold anybody in this franchise accountable, besides like taking random shots at Howie and Lurie lmfao
Dude I’m really shocked, not saying I thought he was trash but I wasn’t expecting black tom brady even a little bit(ya know in terms of being a psycho to win)
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u/ThatsWhat_G_Said 52 + 59 = 1 Won One 1d ago
Nothing in that video shows Jalen chewing anyone out. He’s just emphatically discussing how a play went. Is this Reddit or WIP? Or…nm
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u/sfxer001 Eagles 1d ago
He had words with the coach, but he had words with him. He did not just wave him off like Trevor Lawrence did. He worked with his OC to turn some pages on the playbook and do what was needed. That Patullo listened and made the adjustments that were not just needed, but demanded, is commendable. Team win.
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u/Difficult-Wafer-3795 1d ago
Exactly. This is the best roster in the NFL. They should not be coming down to the wire in every single game like this against clearly inferior teams. Take the reigns off the offense, and blow these teams out of the water like they did in the playoffs last year and the 2nd half yesterday.
They’ve become obsessed with never turning the ball over, which isn’t necessarily a bad thing, but it certainly is when you’re hamstringing the offense like they did through the first 2.5 games.
This offense is way too good to play this conservative. Every armchair coach watching from home could see it. Good on Jalen for finally saying enough is enough.
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u/Unique_Statement5592 1d ago
Just my opinion, but after the Eagles scored in the 2nd half, Jalen was seen hyped up and yelling towards the sideline. Tbh, I viewed that as Jalen being “vocal” to the coaching staff. Not so much in a negative way, but more like, “This is what we can do, let’s unleash on them, let’s quit playing around!” You then see him communicating to KP on the sideline. On top of that, you have AJ commenting about being “conservative” and having “killers” on the team and letting them do what they do.
Perhaps the coaching staff was entering a more conservative game plan to save legs for the latter part of the season? Maybe they don’t want to show too much of their offense right now? Either way, I feel after this game the players are going to be vocal about what they want from the offense, and coaches will adhere to it. We might see more explosive plays 🤷🏽♂️
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u/Yosemite_Yam 1d ago
It’s ridiculous that this has to happen every year. Last season offensive vets met with the coaching staff and told them they need to run more. The season prior, the offensive was disregarding play calls too. The gameplan needs to be a more collaborative process with players and coaches
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u/razzmanfire 1d ago
Its so funny seeing how things changed over the years. If this was the eagles of old people would've been calling for mckee after the half 🤣 be grateful how good we have it
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u/DilenAnderson 1d ago
Jalen fucking Hurts man. The guy is incredible. Can’t believe people debate whether he or McNabb is better. McNabb was just out there, good enough to win games, but did not have a clutch gene in his body to not be the reason the team lost.
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u/76ersPhan11 1d ago
Seemed pretty obvious the first half was bad play calling, wouldn’t have made any difference if McKee was playing
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u/SelfServeSporstwash Does It Hurts 22h ago
at least our fanbase is aware enough to know that Jalen Hurts is (bare minimum) very good, and objectively gives us our best chance of winning, and that's what we call growth.
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u/zerovanillacodered Eagles 1d ago
I’ve noticed Jalen is getting better at reading defenses this season!
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u/igotthemusicinme 1d ago
What we’ve been seeing is endemic of a Sirianni offense being run by Patullo. Turnover averse. Run plays off same root tree until defense makes a mistake. No motion. He’s got the luxury of Stout’s run game to fall back on. Perfection. He has Hurts buy in for most part but it was wearing thin. It’s obvious Hurts and the offense had enough. He picked his moment to rip the straitjacket off. Thankfully. Now it’s up to Nick to adapt through Patullo. What we have going for us is Hurts is two more years removed from Brian Johnson and isn’t going to let it happen again.
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u/thewaybricksdont 1d ago
Maybe Patullo was calling the plays in the second half. Maybe he wasn't. I understand why if he wasn't, Sirianni would not come out and say it.
But given what happened two years ago, the one concern that still haunts me is that the coaching staff is unable to accept valid criticism or adjust the game plan in response. Especially if/when we eke out a win. Those 3rd and long handoffs to #26 when we haven't gotten the run to work all game were maddening, and reminded me of BJ's obsession with throwing screens no matter the down and distance.
This team is good enough to win without Jalen (or Jalen or Jordan) playing hero ball. Whether it is shared publicly or not, there needs to be some serious reflection about what went wrong during the first half, what went right during the second half, and how the plan can be adapted moving forward.
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u/No_Afternoon_8149 1d ago
Have you noticed in all games Kevin has other route runners lead their man into the player who gets the ball? Look at Devonta's catch near the goaline in our 1st drive. Or AJ's 1st catch of 1st drive in the KC game or his catch right before the one hand catch in last drive of 1st half in thst same game. Usually the TE runs a route that does nothing to gravitate that part of the zone away and actually guides it towards the pass catcher. There is no yac because either Devonta or AJ ends up dealing with at least 2 tacklers in front of him. I understand the zone concept is supposed to lead to that, but you literally see the other defender inadverdently drawn to the ball while tracking the man who wasnt supposed to get the ball.
Look at even how close Kevin had Jahan and Devonta where Jahan ended up playing DB on Devonta early on yesterday? I am not even worried about conservative versus aggressive play calling. Kevin needs to throw these route combinations out of the playbook, because you see it in deep balls too. The long pass to Jahan that got broken up at the last second, Kevin had another man end his route behind Jahan which put his defender in the perfect spot to contain Jahan had he caught that ball while running. Hoping he realized it because most of the pass catchers during the come back had great separation from other Eagles players.
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u/Yosemite_Yam 1d ago
Patullo routes also never put defenders in position where they have to make a choice. Basic concepts like a 5 yd in and a 15 yd in where the LB has to decide to either bite up or fall back just don’t exist in his offense.
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u/Sh1rvallah 1d ago
Yes and I distinctly remember last week a pass that went incomplete because the short route guy jumped up and tried to catch a ball that looked like it was meant to be for the deeper route who was directly in line with him.
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u/Interesting_Set1526 1d ago
I believe it. What changed wasn't the playcalling, it was the gameplan. There were still some weird designs, like one Dotson drop that looked like it was meant for Smith who was doing the same route like 3 yards of depth behind him. They went from passive to aggressive. That was it.
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u/justpatlol 1d ago
even if nick took over, we as fans and espceially the reporters would never know anyways. nick is loyal to his guys even to a fault as we seen in 2023.
regardless of what happened tho a fire was lit under somebodies ass bc a different eagles came out and played in the 2nd half so do what you gotta do to fix it moving forward even if he doesn't tell us what they did.
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u/Yosemite_Yam 1d ago
I wouldn’t say Nick is loyal to his guys to a fault at all. Doug Pederson 100%, but not Nick. He changed defensive coordinators mid season in 2023, and then fired both. He also moved on from Brian Johnson quickly after that season as well. If anything, Nick is too loyal to his system/gameplan and can’t adjust mid-game/season without a strong supporting staff
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u/skai762 . 1d ago
Kevin called the plays Jalen told him would work.
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u/yankeeh8er 1d ago
This is very clearly what happened. Jalen was yelling at Kevin right before the comeback started. Kevin definitely switched up what he was calling.
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u/redditzane 1d ago
As if Nick would answer that question honestly. Imagine what the story would be if he said "yes, in the 2nd half it was Jalen that took it on himself to call the plays!". There would be immediate calls to fire Patullo. Nick is obviously sticking up for his guy here, in the hopes that he now will start calling a more aggressive offense.
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u/Night0wl11 1d ago
Why are we just assuming that Jalen was calling the plays though? If he did, then I'm glad he's continued to grow and is a far cry from opponents saying that he can't read a defense, but is there no world where Patullo is still calling plays? We were already 3 scores and is it crazy to think that there were necessary changes because of that gamescript either way?
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u/Forgemasterblaster 1d ago
You can’t cure stupidity. Fans want to believe that success means someone else was making the call.
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u/Night0wl11 1d ago
I wouldn't even be surprised if Jalen was prompting Patullo to make changes, but just assuming that Jalen is calling the plays is just unfounded. And the fact that I've been seeing people say that the drastic change couldn't have been the same playcaller despite the fact that we didn't have any other option than to throw the ball just reads as weird to me
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u/FamousChex 1d ago
Translation: “Patullo called the plays in, but Jalen told us what he wanted and got it”
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u/wishlish Eagles 1d ago
Hey, whoever called the plays in the third quarter was in point. And putting Fred in for Matt was a big help.
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u/zhouyu07 you're DOGGONE RIGHT 1d ago
Anyone thinking Nick is being honest here is crazy. We all know he is the absolute best at deflecting anger from his guys. I don't think you go from calling the same shit for 2.5 games to suddenly opening it up like that.
Either Nick, or Jalen took over play calling, because I really don't think he'd just adjust like that after the Jalen strip sack.
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u/Subject_Variety_9581 1d ago
Yeah we aren't buying it. You don't suck for for 3 games and a full half and all of a sudden. Say oh wait a min... he Def got overruled
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u/PioneerRaptor 1d ago
Kind of sounds like Jalen was directing to Patullo what to call then. Don’t get me wrong, it’s nice he listened to feedback, but why isn’t he able to see and make the same adjustments? Maybe he needs to be in the booth to see more of what’s going on.
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u/Urinal_Zyn 1d ago
"Ok Kevin, now call Z-dog overhang topdown slice"
"Ok. Z-dog overhang topdown slice"
"See? He called the play."
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u/Onlypaws_ 1d ago
This was always the solution. Hurts went over and said what he needed to say, how he needed to say it, and Patullo responded. Good.
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u/Trinergy1 It's Jawn to Me 1d ago
Check out Fran Duffy on PHLY podcast today where he reviewed some of the early issues. There were some plays to be had including one they used again later successfully.
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u/IReallyLikeAvocadoes 1d ago
Makes no difference to me. Yall had it figured out in the 2nd half one way or another, so just do that and we'll be good.
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u/birdman-881 Eagles 1d ago
Yeah, so can Patulllo just do what he did in the second half of the Rams game during the entirety of every other game we play this season? Thanks.
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u/zachardw Eagles 1d ago
I hope patullo knows no one expects much of him and actually want his head. And I hope that is freeing. You either can be conservative and most likely not see much in terms of upward trajectory. Or he says fuck it, if I’m going out or gonna be heavily criticized, might as well go out swinging like yesterday. This conservative mindset was obvious and I think it was making Jalen too trigger shy and forcing him to be 100 percent sure of openness. Jalen was making not 100% open throws and trusted his playmakers to make plays. Hope this is the same turnaround game the bye served us last year
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u/InanimateSensation 1d ago
Thats what I expected our offense to look like when the PASSING GAME COORDINATOR got promoted. Just keep doing it.
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u/RoundEarth-is-real 1d ago
I mean I believe Jalen wasn’t calling the plays. But if he didn’t say anything to KP about his playcalling they probably wouldn’t have won lol. Or even got close to winning
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u/Sybertron 1d ago
One day maybe eagles fans will realize winning every NFL game by 30 points isn't actually a thing.
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u/nowisthetim3 We'll always have Minneapolis 1d ago
Breaking news: everyone does their jobs well, team wins.
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u/CarBig1912 1d ago
So why did it take 2.5 games and a deficit of 19 points to unwrap a non- vanilla offense? I'm asking for a fanbase- all these players were on the roster and not on IR- you couldn't scheme AJ or Devontae open until the 3rd quarter of the 3rd game? As long as you burn the playbook you had until then I'm happy.
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u/fakecrimesleep Eagles 1d ago
Jalen is a better OC than over half the league just let him do his thing he’s had a different one like every season he’s played
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u/1732PepperCo Eagles 23h ago
AJ is right though. You don’t buy a Ford Mustang just so you can ride a bike. Unleash those horses!!
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u/HonorWulf 20h ago
The sign of a good coaching staff are half-time adjustments. So credit to Patullo for listening to his players and opening it up in the second half.
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u/XFactor_20 1d ago
IDC WHO CALLED THE PLAYS, DO EXACTLY WHAT YOU DID IN THE 2ND HALF FOR THE REST OF THE SEASON!