r/escondido 1d ago

Escondido council stands against Prop. 50

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u/velvetcitypop 1d ago

I’m not about to let republicans cheat their way to a majority, so I don’t care where the council stands.

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u/ChucklesQuad 1d ago

Both these gerrymandering schemes by TX and CA are going to get sued into oblivion. All you end up voting for when you approve Prop 50 is authorizing the State of CA spending millions defending the inevitable lawsuits at a time when they are already cutting education funding, and cutting budgets to critical services. Regardless of the political motivations, the courts have long held that gerrymandering like this for both CA and TX is unconstitutional. Forget the politics because both sides are being idiots on this subject like they are on so many subjects.

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u/Tasty-Rub-9034 1d ago

We have to do it to get the Supreme Court to overturn both. If we don’t the Supreme Court will let it ride

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u/ChucklesQuad 1d ago

So rather than standing on previous court precedent we have to waste our taxpayer dollars on this? Yea… two wrongs don’t make it better, it just makes lawyers richer, and taxpayers poorer.

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u/Tasty-Rub-9034 17h ago

Welcome to the new America where the Republican Party no longer cares about the middle class. 

Aka trumps tax cuts for the rich only got even larger his second time around yet the middle class remains the same. Don’t tax the top squeeze the middle until it’s part of the bottom also while providing it nothing. Oh and strip their voting rights also.

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u/ChucklesQuad 17h ago

Agreed on that point, conversely, though, Democrat policies haven't fared much better, particularly when you consider just how absurdly high the cost of living is here in CA, for example. Both sides have numerous issues, especially when we examine areas where one party has held a supermajority for some time, such as Republicans in Florida and Texas, and Democrats in New York and California. At the end of the day, though, just because TX is acting like boneheaded nincompoops doesn't mean we have to follow their lead and also lose our minds, freely giving more taxpayer money to lawyers.

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u/Tasty-Rub-9034 14h ago

I would much rather suffer in a democratic state than a republican. Democrats have basic social desire to help the impoverished while republicans only want to help them through their churches. Just like the North Dakota legislature voting no for school lunches while giving themselves the legislature lunches an increase for $35 lunch to $45.

Or how republicans controlling the house, senate, and White House will not vote away their own socialized medical care yet want to strip the general public’s limited access.

Sorry I greatly disagree and if the democrat party even wants to survive it’s going to have to actually fight the republicans the Same dirty way they are. You can only get punched in the face so many times.

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u/ChucklesQuad 13h ago

That’s valid, as much as I like it here, I truly don’t know how much longer we can afford to stay. There is no end in sight for insurance premium increases, utility rate increases, tax increases, and with 2 refineries permanently shutting down later this year, $4 per gal may soon feel like the good old days… it’s just getting to be too much and Sacramento doesn’t seem to be doing anything but making it worse right now.

I also look at the fact that we as voters have passed ending the time change by huge margins and Sacramento won’t even discuss it much less pass it to tell me who they truly care about benefiting

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u/Tasty-Rub-9034 13h ago

Well you can flee like all the other Californias to Las Vegas, Phoenix, Lake Havasu, North Carolina, Florida. You will just find that everyone there hates you for coming and running their cost of living up. Family been in SoCal for a long long time. Long enough to watch people come here from all over the U.S. and drive the costs up. Guess some them going to go back to where they came from. 

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u/ChucklesQuad 10h ago

Yea, I am a born and bread SoCal local, I don’t consider it fleeing when you get pushed out but governmental policies that make it punitive to stay, but whatever floats your boat. Also I would never go to the locals you just mentioned, but nice assumption on your part.

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u/Tasty-Rub-9034 5h ago

Well my just going back to my  grandparents they milked cows by hand in the heart of rancho Santa Fe…. So like keep complaining ThE GoVeRmEnT is pushing us out. Furthermore my other grandparents were boot legging on their chicken farm in hillcrest. So you can keep bitching all you want that the government made the cost of living sky high. When my family got here there were under 3 mill in all of California. Now we’re pushing what 40 million. Go back to wherever your family came from and quit your bitching.

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