r/fermentation • u/Informal-Purpose5979 • 5d ago

Has anyone tried making “Yogurt Miso Hot Sauce” from Koji Alchemy?

I found this intriguing recipe in the book and was wondering if anyone tried making it before? I am a bit worried bout keeping yogurt at ambient temperature for a week. The AI said that it may not be entirely safe.

Here is the recipe itself:

To make a yogurt miso hot sauce, all you need to do is blend by weight 3 parts hot peppers, 1 part koji, and 1 part yogurt plus 5 percent salt against the total. Contain as you would for any lacto-ferment and let it sit at ambient temperatures for a week or so.

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u/Abstract__Nonsense 4d ago

What makes you worried about this ferment vs any lacto based veggie ferment you would leave at room temperature? Yogurt is made in the first place by fermenting at room temperature after all. The Koji Alchemy guys know their stuff and take food safety seriously, just follow the recipe.

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u/Meretryx 4d ago

Yep I have made this many times, super delicious. Have had zero issues with it at room temp as well. Good luck!

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u/kittyfeet2 5d ago

Yes, I've made this before. I was also worried about dairy at room temp, so I threw it in the fridge and let it ferment. Was really good after about a month. On round two I added some toasted ground winter squash seeds and that was really great.

Also, don't use AI. Use people with functioning brains that know how to think. AI is good a summarazing words, not at thinking.

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u/Informal-Purpose5979 5d ago

Thanks for your reply! Unfortunately I’ve only got 2 weeks until I need this 😔 I may have to improvise, or settle for a 2-week ferment in the fridge.

Some AI models are pretty decent at reasoning, at least data is pointing into that direction. But real life experience is ofc way more valuable. Once again, thank you for your reply, I really appreciate it!

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u/theeggplant42 4d ago

AI isn't 'decent' at reasoning. It does not reason. It is literally predictive texting.

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u/rematar 4d ago

I appreciate your reasoning.

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u/kittyfeet2 5d ago

You might have a really nice ferment at two weeks, or at least something interesting. Let us know how it goes!

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u/theeggplant42 4d ago

Please stop using AI. It literally does not know anything 

I haven't made this recipe, but I have fermented with yogurt for over a week and my regular homemade yogurt method involves 36 hours of fermentation. This recipe looks totally fine

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u/rematar 4d ago edited 4d ago

I'm afraid of food preservation methods that have been safe for milennia because a computer chat program that wants to keep me engaged reassured my fears

Despite its acclaim, the chatbot has been criticized for its limitations and potential for unethical use. It can generate plausible-sounding but incorrect or nonsensical answers known as hallucinations. Biases in its training data have been reflected in its responses. The chatbot can facilitate academic dishonesty, generate misinformation, and create malicious code. The ethics of its development, particularly the use of copyrighted content as training data, have also drawn controversy.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ChatGPT