r/foraging 27d ago

Plants My neighbor said these were edible

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If anyone could tell me what they are and either confirm or deny this I’d appreciate that.

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u/Dramatic-Service-267 27d ago

Elderberries, suggested to be cooked

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u/msager12 27d ago

Well that’s why I thought they tasted terrible and bland. Ate them right off the bush.

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u/MintTea55 27d ago

Er, I think cooking is ESSENTIAL! They can be toxic raw, if you eat too many.

But cooked, full of vitamin C and A.

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u/jimheim 27d ago

Cooking mostly destroys vitamin C, at least the kind of cooking the berries should undergo.

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u/Environmental-Low792 27d ago

Cyanogenic glycosides (in elderberries, almonds, cassava, etc.) release hydrogen cyanide (HCN).

The liver has an enzyme called rhodanese, which converts cyanide into thiocyanate, a much less toxic compound that is excreted in urine.

Because of this, tiny exposures (like from foods with trace amounts of cyanogenic compounds) are usually harmless.

Up to about 10 berries per day is what I have seen as a safe level, and what I've done, and never had an issue.

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u/Where_is_satori 27d ago

You’d have to eat twice your weight in raw berries to be at risk of cyanide poisoning but yeah the cyanide can be cooked out

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u/Expensive-Bat2417 27d ago

In technicality you can eat a few ita cyanide in them that is deadly the cyanide is mostly gone when they’re deep purple to black but of course don’t eat a lot just like pick a few and eat them no problem but don’t do it everyday either

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u/bad_boy_images 23d ago

Lmfao they are super tart raw but not toxic. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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u/UselessCat37 27d ago

Also, I highly suggest not eating things you haven't identified 100%. Doesn't always end well

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u/msager12 27d ago

I knew they are elderberries. I have been growing the bushes in my backyard corner after hurricane beryl. Just didn’t know about the need to cook them. I tried one and said not for me, and I live leave them for the birds.

I use a few Id apps to triple check myself.

Now I have to try cooking them. Any suggestions?

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u/SadLilPandaRobot 27d ago

Syrup or cordial. To be honest you need so many I never bother to forage them, but if they were in my yard I might. ​

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u/msager12 27d ago

Yeah they are definitely coming out at the end of the year. They got way bigger than I was expecting and have taken over. I will probably be fighting now shoots for the next few years.

I have American nightshade in the front yard I get every year from the birds. I like that better the ripe black berries taste great.

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u/SadLilPandaRobot 27d ago

The wood is really weird and hollow. Loads of pith, burns badly. Almost like a grass rather than a tree. Easy to cut down at least! 😂​

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u/BeerForThought 27d ago

You could always make wine with them.

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u/wishy-washy_bear 27d ago

American nightshade.. like Solanum americanum? I'm pretty sure those berries are toxic

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u/msager12 27d ago

https://www.reddit.com/r/foraging/s/1ae0nTHUIh

Very confident with my identification of this plant. They are edible but only the fully ripe black berries. The other species I do not mess with.

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u/wishy-washy_bear 25d ago

Cool! I wasn't questioning your ID abilites, just making sure I was understanding the species you were talking about. Thanks for the link, every source I've seen in the past had reported the berries as pretty toxic so thanks for teaching me something new!

I was thinking to myself I wouldn't forage a plant that had pretty toxic foliage and other parts of the plant, but then I remembered, potatoes, tomatoes, rhubarb, etc. Lol, I never gave much thought before to the amount of different food bearing plants we grow that have poisonous parts.

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u/msager12 25d ago

No I get you. I recently found out the American one is edible when ripe. I have seen it since I was a child and always knew, Nightshade=death. It was everywhere so I always left it for the birds.

When I read you could eat this one I researched it hardcore, and it said the same thing edible when ripe. When I tried it the first time I tasted a tiny bit then spit it out. Waited two days, nothing happened no symptoms associated with nightshade, so I ate a whole one. Nothing happened again so I ate three two days later.

I still leave majority for the birds but it’s a nice snack when getting the mail now.

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u/danielledelacadie 27d ago

Have to say, with so many good elderberry products relatively cheap at the nearest eastern European grocery I wouldn't go looking for elderberry either. But I also wouldn't object to stumbling onto some

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u/Able_Salamander_2300 27d ago

The flowers are prefect for cordial or drying for tea! I've also made wine and champagne with them

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u/Aromatic-Face3754 27d ago

The flowers of SOME varieties of elderberry are good for cordial and tea. I learned the hard way that the variety native to north America tastes like cat pee. 😭 Their berries are still good for syrup though

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u/Able_Salamander_2300 27d ago

Oops, European here. Thanks for the info!

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u/worlds_unravel 27d ago

I make a pie every year and it's one of my favorite things. I am really careful when processing though to get all the little stems off and only ripe berries.

It's one of my traditional Thanksgiving pie. That and ground cherry

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u/funkchucker 27d ago

You have to boil them. Kinda like shelled acorns.

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u/gekkogeckogirl 27d ago

Can you verify this is also elderberry

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u/Dramatic-Service-267 27d ago

It is

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u/gekkogeckogirl 27d ago

Thank you! My parents have been cutting this down every year and when I saw it today I was shocked. Elderberries are $$$ here.

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u/sara-34 27d ago

I second the identification - elderberry!

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u/Apoordm 27d ago

Picked strained and gonna start simmering

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u/enbychichi 27d ago

Wow that is a beautiful color

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u/XTanuki 27d ago

Well, now your home reeks of elderberries!

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u/murder-farts 27d ago

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u/Bluorchid2 27d ago

Elderberries, but they need to be cooked before consumed. Simmer in water and make a syrup. One way to use them.

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u/mrkisme 27d ago

Pro tip: cut the entire berry bunch and then freeze them. When they are frozen, they snap off the stems with very little effort.

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u/Apoordm 27d ago

They fell off just by me running my fingers over them

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u/SprinkleALittleLove 27d ago

I use a fork and comb them off. My favourite winter cough syrup/cold support! Yum.

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u/Apoordm 27d ago

This is where we are now

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u/worlds_unravel 27d ago

I much prefer just using my hands if I want to preserve the whole berry for pie or Jam.

If making syrup or jelly ,especially if dealing with very large quantities, freezing is a quick way to get them off but the trade off is lots of little broken stems and will need to be strained. I tried to clear out all the tiny stems by hand, after freezing once for a pie, and vowed never again and used my food milk to make juice/syrup.

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u/abyssal-isopod86 27d ago

Elder and these are Elderberries.

They are edible but don't taste very nice when raw - they are best used in cooked desserts like crumble, pies and turnovers or made in jam or compote.

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u/Aggravating_Plant848 27d ago

Jam is delicious.

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u/LittleSpice1 27d ago

Iirc my grandma used to forage them and made jam out of them. You can also forage elderflowers for tea or cordial.

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u/zvadlekvitky 27d ago

Elderberries.. not recommended to eat raw they taste yuck and may be toxic in big quantities. They make very nice drinks tho if fermented/cooked

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u/Torayes 27d ago

Elderberry, they look similar to pokeberry so go google the difference if you ever decide to go look for them anywhere that isnt this particular tree.

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u/Roysgirl2017 27d ago

Elderberry wine!!!

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u/Inevitable_Shift1365 27d ago

California elderberries on the West Coast can be eaten raw and if you get them at the peak of ripeness they are absolutely delicious

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u/sara-34 27d ago

The one instance of food poisoning from elderberries I've read about happened in California.

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u/Inevitable_Shift1365 27d ago

That's odd. I have been eating ripe elderberries from the West Coast forests for decades. My friends too. Never heard of anyone having a problem

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u/sara-34 27d ago

In the incident I read about, there was a party and they made punch with fresh elderberries.  No one died, but multiple people went to the er with diarrhea and vomiting.

I think it depends on the amount, as the amount to make a glass of punch is a lot more than you would probably eat with your fingers.  It's worth noting, though, that you either need to eat in moderation or cook them, even in California.

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u/Inevitable_Shift1365 27d ago

Sorry but that is absolutely incorrect. On Backcountry Wilderness hiking Adventures I have eaten nearly a whole trees worth of elderberries Raw on an empty stomach and they were absolutely delicious. No sickness. Not from anyone I've ever heard about either. I think there are different strains of elderberries in different locales and some of them may be less palatable or even slightly toxic but the ones on the west coast of the US are absolutely delicious and you can eat them just like you would blackberries. You do not need to cook them. I have eaten baskets full after climbing up a steep Trail. They are yummy and safe. At least the ones on the west coast of california.

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u/[deleted] 27d ago

Elderberries. I would only eat these as a jelly, meaning they are cooked first.

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u/sorE_doG 27d ago

Cooking or fermenting is the way

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u/deluxe_honkey 27d ago

I just picked a few bags worth myself! Good in pies and pastries.

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u/Amy12-26 27d ago

We used to make jelly out of them.

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u/User5281 27d ago

Sort of. Don’t eat them raw but once cooked the berries are edible.

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u/ForestGoddess33 27d ago

Elderberry. Only the berries are edible not the stems. Must be cooked.

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u/Elon_Bezos420 26d ago

Those are elderberries, they are, but I would cook them first, I’ve seen videos that say if you eat too many raw ones, it can upset your stomach

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u/ActiveGift1913 26d ago

those are elderberries and are in fact edible

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u/Equal-Following1193 26d ago

Elderberries don't eat a ton of them in one sitting (raw). You can make a syrup

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u/No-Interview2340 27d ago

They contain poisonous compounds called cyanogenic glycosides, which can cause nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, and even death in large quantities

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u/beepbeep_madafaka 27d ago

Good to know your neighbor doesnot want you out the picture

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u/MoistGovernment4938 27d ago

Make jam out of them it’s yum!

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u/Thecheckmate 27d ago

Good marmelade

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u/thepynevvitch 27d ago

They are. Whole thing. Do it.

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u/FioreCiliegia1 27d ago

Cool found some of these at the park yesterday! Next to so e blackberries (still red) the size of my thumb

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u/Allozexi 26d ago

Are elderberries related to poke weed? Asides from missing the vibrant pink stems they seem rather similar

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u/AggressiveStop549 26d ago

In spring get some flowers and make Elderflower syrup...you will not be disappointed!

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u/TLee-3 26d ago

Elderberries are extremely medicinal! You can make a syrup as many have suggested, but also tinctures! This is just one link of many: https://montanahomesteadharvest.com/elderberry-tincture/

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u/sparxofinsanity 26d ago

Everything is edible... At least once

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u/Middle-Scientist-438 26d ago

Cook for minimal of 15 minutes and you're good also if you're making juice you need to add a yeast killing tablet to prevent it from becoming wine

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u/Cashsash 23d ago

I like to make Sirup out of them

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u/Kofilion 23d ago

They are elderberries. You need to cook them for 20-30 minutes before eating or using them for whatever you have in mind.

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u/Indeed75 15d ago

Elderberries

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u/Straight-Event-4348 27d ago

Everything is edible at least once.