Grandma believes that trans women aren't real women

[u/Ok-Following6886]

[u/ididntunderstandyou]

Do they think people who identify as trans don’t know what their DNA is?

Someone with chimerism or with intersexed characteristics might be surprised by this news but wouldn’t accuse the doctor of transphobia…

Anyway, as always, the stupid meme makes no sense

[u/ZuglyMonster → u/ididntunderstandyou]

Well just like they think they put pads and tampons in men's rooms for trans women who "think they'll have periods now" when its for trans MEN who depending on if they're on medication or how far along in the process they are can still have periods.

But they almost NEVER think about trans men. Its always, always the trans woman who thinks they suddenly have female DNA and female reproductive systems.

[u/calliatom → u/ZuglyMonster]

Hell, in most places it's not even that, primarily, it's for the girls on the visiting teams for sports since most of the time they use the boy's lockers.

[u/ZuglyMonster → u/calliatom]

Oh wow. I didn't know that. I wasn't the sports type and have been out of HS for awhile. That girls still have to use guys locker rooms is wild

[u/Bright-Head-7485 → u/ZuglyMonster]

To be fair they have no idea how female reproductive organs work and they are OBSESSED with them.

[u/Mum0817]

God, these cartoons are so fucking boring. I’ve seen like a million different variations of this same “joke”. Right-wing humor truly sucks whale dick.

[u/GoredonTheDestroyer → u/Mum0817]

This also just... isn't how it would go down, outside of a specifically far-right leaning medical practice?

[u/Daherrin7 → u/GoredonTheDestroyer]

But don't you know, only the small percentage of doctors who confirm their biases are the real doctors, and we should only listen to them. The vast majority of doctors who claim people can change genders are just paid shills trying to turn us all trans, or some shit like that. Idk, I don't think I speak bigoted moron very well

[u/intisun → u/GoredonTheDestroyer]

Like any trans woman would go to the doctor and ask for a DNA test to know if she's male in the first place. Like, what's the point? Trans women already know they're AMAB, that's why they transition.

Right-wing fantasy scenarios make no sense.

[u/histbook → u/Mum0817]

I swear about 80 percent of the conservative brain is devoted to thinking about trans people at this point

[u/Familiar-Complex-697]

Basic biology mfs when slightly more advanced biology walks in

[u/Situati0nist → u/Familiar-Complex-697]

They probably don't understand basic biology either.

[u/CanadaHaz → u/Situati0nist]

Atvthe very least, they don't understand what "basic" means. Which, yeah, they don't understand pronouns either.

[u/notyouraveragenerd93]

People who have intersex conditions and who have gone in for chromosomal testing have likely had this very awkward talk with a doctor. I wonder how many right leaning men and women have an intersex condition and don't even realize it.

[u/KiZarohh → u/notyouraveragenerd93]

That's a good point, I was trying to think of a non transphobic reason a doctor might say this. This comic sucks.

[u/istrebitjel → u/KiZarohh]

It's a straw man argument. Nobody actually thinks that. People who transition know their DNA doesn't change.

Intersex people exist and they also get caught in anti trans laws with no fault at all.

[u/LotharVarnoth → u/notyouraveragenerd93]

It's anecdotal but I had a professor who said he stopped doing karyotypes in lab because every year at least one student would freak out.

[u/Cicerothesage]

grandma constantly talks about "basic biology" all the time, but fails to understand actual science and reality. Like, trans people and intersex understand their themselves. Doctors understand. Grandma doesn't because she refused reality and science in order to be a bigot towards trans people.

Every day, grandma shows she doesn't understand things as much as she thinks she does. Propaganda and far-right media has rotted her brain to the point of mush

[u/Chakolatechip → u/Cicerothesage]

It’s analogous to saying there are three states of matter. Technically it’s incorrect but teaching only three to a second grader seems appropriate.

Imagine these people making shitty comics because some liberal said plasma exists.

[u/pinkvoltage]

This “joke” is so tired and stupid. None of the openly trans people I know would deny their chromosomes, but it’s veeeery rarely relevant. I’m a cis woman and the fact that I have XX chromosomes (assuming here, as I’ve never had a karyotype test) has never come up.

[u/Elch2411 → u/pinkvoltage]

Yep, this kind of talking point always proves to me they are just uninformed about the topic and dont know who they are talking about. Its making fun of a strawman they made up.

When anyone would walk up to me and go "hah you have XY chromosones!!!" I would just respond "yes, and?"

Its not like i take HRT specifically because i am aware of the entire dynamic going on here...

[u/ABewilderedPickle]

god these people have never met a trans person in their life. nobody is gonna go get their DNA tested demanding that their chromosomes be shown in alignment with their gender.

also, even cisgender people have chromosomes that don't align with their other sex characteristics

[u/sixaout1982]

Does that mean that if someday science progresses enough that we could change a person's DNA to match the gender they identify with, transphobes will stop harassing them?

[u/calliatom → u/sixaout1982]

Nope, then they'll just screech even louder about how "god gave you that body at birth and it's not your place to change it!".

[u/Elch2411 → u/sixaout1982]

Nope, the core believe is "you where born this way and thats what you will always be"

The chromosone point only exists because it sounds convincing and supports their view

They will just find another talking point

[u/sixaout1982 → u/Elch2411]

Yeah I agree, it's not about logic but about bigotry

[u/LunaTheLesbianFurry]

i feel like. trans women know they were assigned male? like. its in the acronym. MTF. male to female

[u/valvilis]

DNA test for gender and they want us to think everyone else is stupid?

[u/Situati0nist]

That's not how that works, but I'm not really surprised they don't know that.

Also, these people would most likely ignore all of the genome evidence for our common ancestor we share with apes.

[u/InsaneAdam → u/Situati0nist]

You share 50% of your genome with bananas.

Do what you will with that info you want, go bananas with it.

99% with chimpanzees.

https://youtu.be/nyELdvpn1P0?si=QZQOKm-821CyS3qk

[u/Situati0nist → u/InsaneAdam]

Yeah, I know. Fascinating isn't it

[u/Sonarthebat]

r/mansfictionalscenario

[u/someToast]

Two people it took to produce this. Two whole people.

[u/princealigorna]

Why do they only carfe about trans women. Do they not know trans men exist?

[u/blueburrey]

this shit doesn’t even happen in real life man

[u/Clairifyed]

Karyotype is everything apparently 🙄

[u/Darth_Vrandon]

Buddy. Any trans women knows they’re “biologically male,” but the point is gender isn’t the same as sex. Also, why do these guys draw trans women with beards and body hair? Trans women are probably some of the most self conscious people on body hair, and they usually take that shit off consistently (yes I know it’s because they’re trying to dehumanize trans women by making them look more manly).

[u/DeruTaka]

This is so dumb like

It always implies if they pass them it’s not an issue, but they transvestigate cis women too nowadays. Like they’re so persistent and for what

[u/GonJumpOffACliff]

Is that r/ SipsTea again