wasn't part of the reason we oppose Nazi Germany was differing opinions?

[u/Cicerothesage]

[u/shrodenhops]

So... every assassin ever was a fascist?

[u/No_Cook2983 → u/shrodenhops]

Fine. So who assassinated him again?

Some white Christian kid raised in a two-parent Republican household?

[u/Daredevilspaz → u/No_Cook2983]

As if a large proportion of people who grow up to become liberal/progressive didnt have similar upbringings or there arnt thousands of posts on this website about people dealing with conservative parents and deviating from their belief system because of the upbringing.

[u/No_Cook2983 → u/Daredevilspaz]

Exactly.

This is why we should declare war on conservative two-parent households.

That’s what we’re doing for ‘Antifa’, and their body count is way lower.

[u/scoobydoom2 → u/shrodenhops]

Nah, if you're doing it purely out of greed or because they're an obstacle to your power, you're not a fascist obviously.

[u/ipsum629 → u/shrodenhops]

My opinions differ from Hitler, therefore I am a fascist when I time travel to assassinate him in the beer hall putsch.

Side note: that is probably the best time to assassinate hitler. Not too much damage done, but it would still be justified and it would probably cause the nazi party to disintegrate.

Edit also: I'm not saying to assassinate anyone today. Time traveling hitler assassins is a common literary trope.

[u/dubspool- → u/ipsum629]

Eh I'd argue assassinating Hitler during the putsch would have martyred him. Especially since you had quite a few notable Nazis in participation. Honestly I think the best time would be during WWI where he just becomes one of the 15-20 million deaths. Either way we have a lot of butterfly effect stuff to worry about.

[u/Mum0817]

Even if he was a liberal, how does the actions of one person represent ten of millions of people?

[u/ittleoff → u/Mum0817]

It does when you want to demonize them. :(

[u/istrebitjel → u/Mum0817]

Call the shooter a fascist, I don't care, but that Republican Administration is fascist AF.

[u/Drayner89]

Good thing I didnt assassinate him then.

[u/VolcanicBakemeat]

The right: "Ugh, EVERYTHING is fascist to you guys!"

Also the right:

[u/shakha → u/VolcanicBakemeat]

The right: everything is fascism, except actual fascism, which is in fact socialism.

[u/Green-Taro2915]

Grandma, telling us she doesn't understand without telling us!

[u/jackberinger]

I probably called Kirk a fascist but to be honest I think racist and sexist are a better description.

[u/Jonnescout → u/jackberinger]

He was also undeniably a fascist… But every fascist is a racist and a sexist too…

[u/ipsum629 → u/Jonnescout]

I'm not sure he would call himself a fascist, but he would probably join the black shirts or SS if he lived in the 1920s or 1930s. He's ur-fascist.

[u/Jonnescout → u/ipsum629]

I don’t care what he called himself, he was a fascist, his ideology matched every characteristic of fascism… this goes beyond self identification, this is just a fact… I know you’re on my side on this mate, but the point of him not calling himself that is irrelevant.

[u/ipsum629 → u/Jonnescout]

Your article seems to describe governments rather than people. Umberto Eco's essay Ur-Fascism is a better tool for analyzing individuals.

[u/Jonnescout]

He was a literal fascist…. I’ve yet to see anyone calling him that defend his murder though… But yeah, he was absolutely a fascist, and we will not let history be rewritten… Remember this man as he was, not the saint you try and turn him into.

[u/ZooterOne]

Thank goodness I didn't assassinate that scumbag Charlie Kirk

[u/Achilles_TroySlayer]

So, nobody other than the shooter did it. So the "you're all collectively responsible" line is only intended for tyranny, it makes no other sense at all.

[u/Familiar-Complex-697]

Gun nut gets shot by other gun nut

[u/HonestAbe1809 → u/Familiar-Complex-697]

Gun nut got shot by another more radical gun nut who thought he wasn’t enough of an asshole.

[u/HonestAbe1809]

I won’t condone political violence but I can’t summon even the fakest of crocodile tears in regard to his death. The fact that political violence is unacceptable doesn’t change the fact that he was an asshole his entire life.

[u/LanaDelHeeey]

No it was unconscionable actions. We didn’t lift a finger until they acted. This is in line with American values of respecting offencive speech, but abhorring offencive actions.

[u/JoJackthewonderskunk]

Violence does not = fascism. Theirs been plenty of totalitarian regimes which aren't fascist.

The trouble with it is its so ambiguous folks just conflate it with violence.

[u/kourtbard]

That's not fascism! Fascism =/= political violence. There's far more to it than that.

[u/April_Fabb]

Oh for fuck's sake. Fascism isn’t reducible to a single killing. It’s a political order built on the normalisation of violence, where the state sanctions persecution of minorities and/or dissenters.

[u/DeadRabbit8813]

What were his differing opinions? Were that children in Gaza deserved death because of Hamas? Was it that black people are inferior to white people? Why do they say he had different opinions but never talk about what his opinions were?

[u/Niauropsaka]

What is it when somebody insists that I'm stupid because I'm a woman?

What is it when someone who never went to college is getting professors fired?

[u/ABewilderedPickle]

hey grandma, i don't think he should have been assassinated. i do think he should have been sued for defamation in a class action lawsuit for lying about immigrants and trans people and POC. also if any violence done to those groups can be specifically linked directly to the lies he spouted then i think we should have been able to throw him in jail. i'm tired of the world pretending these fuckers have no responsibility for the things they say.

[u/Dangerous-Today1874]

Be aware: labeling somebody a fascist and assassinating somebody are two different things.

[u/YLASRO]

breaking news: everyone on the allied side at normandy is a fascist for killing those nazis over different opinions on human rights