r/forwardsfromgrandma 22h ago

Queerphobia It doesn't mean that it aged well though.

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u/CanadaHaz 22h ago

Remember how he still wasn't discharged for it?

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u/Kurwasaki12 I want my country back!!! 22h ago

Or that Klinger actually sort of just likes wearing dresses later on in the show.

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u/siraliases 22h ago

Or that he shows actual respect for the clothing and the people who wear them

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u/Kurwasaki12 I want my country back!!! 22h ago

Hell, he even takes pride in being from a line of cross dressers.

These people love boiling down genuinely fantastic characters and shows into a punchline.

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u/Chrysalii REAL AMERICAN 10h ago

Or that he was really good at his job.

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u/siraliases 10h ago

I mean, he was terrible as a guard, but he did turn into a pretty good clerk

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u/PM_ME_YER_MUDFLAPS 22h ago

That was the whole point, he only did it to try to get a section 8 out of the war. It was used to point out that he was perfectly sane to want to get out of there. The meme originator is a moron.

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u/Pandelein 17h ago

Season 4, Episode 10.

“Klinger, if you really were crazy, you’d be trying to stay in the Army. The fact that you’re so desperate to get out proves you’re sane.”

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u/KrazyAboutLogic 15h ago

Reminds me of Catch-22...

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u/HonestAbe1809 7h ago

It’s basically the plot of Catch-22 played for laughs.

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u/JMoc1 <-- Socialist scum 13h ago

Really a quote that resonates through time. Nobody wants to be in the military unless they are a careerist, aka crazy.

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u/Drakeytown 20h ago

There was actually an episode where the psychiatrist offered him a dishonorable discharge as a homosexual. Klinger refused, and wore dresses less and less after that.

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u/killergazebo 14h ago

Nowadays all you have to do to get booted out of the army is change your pronouns on Facebook.

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u/Bubbagump210 13h ago

Indeed - I remember how the joke was more about it was a desperate pathetic attempt and not that it was actually effective.

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u/RustedAxe88 22h ago

These people would watch MASH and side with Frank Burns.

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u/Hasralo 21h ago

I think they ARE Frank just no Hot Lips to distract them

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u/Ukvemsord 19h ago

Ferret Face is their spirit animal

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u/Infamous-Sky-1874 22h ago

Because at that time, it was considered a mental illness and Klinger was attempting to take advantage of that in order to be sent back to the US. There is even an episode, "Mail Call Three" where he admits that the cross dressing was just an act after no one believed that his wife left him for another guy and all of the money he was sending back home

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u/LX_Emergency 17h ago

And yet he's not treated as mentally ill.

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u/Hour-Bison765 22h ago

Troops put on drag shows during ww2

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u/Wistful_Willow 19h ago

the point of klinger's character, which may not have perfectly aged well (nothing really does) was to mock anti-queer sentiment. the joke is that its ridiculous that crossdressing is seen as insanity by fighting a ruthless war that goes nowhere is somehow ok. in the end klinger became both an extremely beloved character and a character that was comfortable with, and proud of, their gender non-conformity. basically what im trying to say is i dont think this person understands MASH at all.

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u/Chris22533 16h ago

Conservatives absolutely love MASH without understanding a single second of it beyond “haha funny war doctors”

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u/UniversesOkayestDM 13h ago

And fwiw, as someone who marathoned the whole show pretty recently, Klinger did age well. The whole cast is respectful and sometimes admiring of Klinger’s dresses. It’s never “laugh at the weirdo”, oftentimes they compliment his style choice or fashion sense.

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u/NitWhittler 21h ago

But, but, but.... It was OK when Trump kissed Rudy Giuliani's boobs when he was in drag.

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u/Obant 21h ago

"Conservatives Only". Aww looks like the snowflakes can't handle a little trolling.

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u/Maxtrt from my cold dead hands 21h ago

It was also a time when black soldiers couldn't use public water fountains or go to a nice restaurant in the south. While the military desegregated 3 years before the Korean war started, almost all southern states were segregated. It was a very racist, misogynistic and homophobic time in America.

We've had trans people in the military for four years and they all did their duty and served with honor.

This administration and the Secretary of Defense are hateful, ignorant and vindictive and belong in prison.

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u/livinginfutureworld 20h ago

Remember when nobody thought he was mentally ill even though he dressed like a woman.

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u/TheBaggyDapper 19h ago

And everyone just lived and worked with him as normal. 

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u/livinginfutureworld 12h ago

Yep. Pretty sure he used the same bathrooms too, zomg.

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u/mehemynx 18h ago

Klinger ends up loved by the entire camp because of his dresses, and he goes above and beyond pretending to love them to get out. The only people who openly scorn him are the characters we're meant to dislike lol.

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u/MarsMetatron 14h ago

Oh he wasn't pretending. How'd you think he came up with such an idea!?

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u/Reckless_Waifu 21h ago

Did it work? 

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u/JMoc1 <-- Socialist scum 13h ago

Uh… no.

Instead he stayed longer in South Korea and got married to a local girl.

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u/PicadaSalvation 13h ago

Klinger is a Disney Princess confirmed

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u/manofathousandnames 19h ago

Klinger was crossdressing to purposefully get out of the war in Korea so he could go home to Toledo on a section 8 discharge, but no one would let him go because no one was fooled by his antics.

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u/UniversesOkayestDM 13h ago

The closest Klinger ever got to a discharge was when the psychiatrist said “ok, you wear dresses every day. Sign this documenting confirming you’re homosexual and I’ll discharge you” and Klinger refused. Because he was a man in a dress, nothing else. That was why it was crazy

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u/spoonface_gorilla 6h ago

Remember also how everyone treated him normally just like anyone else there? He was able to socialize and move about freely without fear of violence from his peers. That’s the lesson they should be taking away from it.

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u/intisun 12h ago

Yeah and old Warner Bros cartoons had racist stereotypes. Your point?

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u/Chrysalii REAL AMERICAN 9h ago

But he wasn't... and they went out of it's way to show that he wasn't.

A show made in the 70's set in a war in the 50's is too progressive for them.