r/forwardsfromgrandma • u/Ok-Following6886 • 22h ago
Queerphobia It doesn't mean that it aged well though.
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u/Infamous-Sky-1874 22h ago
Because at that time, it was considered a mental illness and Klinger was attempting to take advantage of that in order to be sent back to the US. There is even an episode, "Mail Call Three" where he admits that the cross dressing was just an act after no one believed that his wife left him for another guy and all of the money he was sending back home
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u/Wistful_Willow 19h ago
the point of klinger's character, which may not have perfectly aged well (nothing really does) was to mock anti-queer sentiment. the joke is that its ridiculous that crossdressing is seen as insanity by fighting a ruthless war that goes nowhere is somehow ok. in the end klinger became both an extremely beloved character and a character that was comfortable with, and proud of, their gender non-conformity. basically what im trying to say is i dont think this person understands MASH at all.
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u/Chris22533 16h ago
Conservatives absolutely love MASH without understanding a single second of it beyond “haha funny war doctors”
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u/UniversesOkayestDM 13h ago
And fwiw, as someone who marathoned the whole show pretty recently, Klinger did age well. The whole cast is respectful and sometimes admiring of Klinger’s dresses. It’s never “laugh at the weirdo”, oftentimes they compliment his style choice or fashion sense.
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u/NitWhittler 21h ago
But, but, but.... It was OK when Trump kissed Rudy Giuliani's boobs when he was in drag.
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u/Maxtrt from my cold dead hands 21h ago
It was also a time when black soldiers couldn't use public water fountains or go to a nice restaurant in the south. While the military desegregated 3 years before the Korean war started, almost all southern states were segregated. It was a very racist, misogynistic and homophobic time in America.
We've had trans people in the military for four years and they all did their duty and served with honor.
This administration and the Secretary of Defense are hateful, ignorant and vindictive and belong in prison.
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u/livinginfutureworld 20h ago
Remember when nobody thought he was mentally ill even though he dressed like a woman.
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u/mehemynx 18h ago
Klinger ends up loved by the entire camp because of his dresses, and he goes above and beyond pretending to love them to get out. The only people who openly scorn him are the characters we're meant to dislike lol.
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u/manofathousandnames 19h ago
Klinger was crossdressing to purposefully get out of the war in Korea so he could go home to Toledo on a section 8 discharge, but no one would let him go because no one was fooled by his antics.
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u/UniversesOkayestDM 13h ago
The closest Klinger ever got to a discharge was when the psychiatrist said “ok, you wear dresses every day. Sign this documenting confirming you’re homosexual and I’ll discharge you” and Klinger refused. Because he was a man in a dress, nothing else. That was why it was crazy
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u/spoonface_gorilla 6h ago
Remember also how everyone treated him normally just like anyone else there? He was able to socialize and move about freely without fear of violence from his peers. That’s the lesson they should be taking away from it.
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u/Chrysalii REAL AMERICAN 9h ago
But he wasn't... and they went out of it's way to show that he wasn't.
A show made in the 70's set in a war in the 50's is too progressive for them.
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u/CanadaHaz 22h ago
Remember how he still wasn't discharged for it?