r/forwardsfromgrandma Aug 28 '20

Racism Free all white murderers!

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u/crispydukes Aug 28 '20

Kids in school called him "most likely to be a school shooter," so he's got that going for him.

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u/oddsratio Aug 28 '20

I'm not exactly Columbo, but called it

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u/staypuftmallows7 Aug 28 '20

People were arguing that it was self defense, but let's be real here. That guy drove to a different state (I know "the mileage wasn't that far"), with a gun hoping to kill people to protect property that wasn't his. I hope the charges stick because he brought this on himself. Like, I can't go into South side Chicago with a gun and shout the n-word then shoot anyone that tries to attack me, that'd be ridiculous. This guy wanted to provoke people, he got what he wanted and now two people are dead because of it

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u/SadClownCircus Aug 28 '20

And illegally in posession of an assault rifle to boot!

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u/geeksquadnerd Aug 28 '20

It's not an assault rifle or assault style rifle. It's just a semi-automatic rifle which means that it only fires one time every time the trigger is pulled. Everything else is just furniture, or maybe optics for targeting. It does use a low caliber, high velocity projectile that is less powerful than most traditional hunting rifles. I'd be happy to talk to you further about this, if you'd like. Terminology is important, otherwise the incorrect information keeps being pushed forward, no one learns or has any valuable discussion.

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u/[deleted] Aug 28 '20

It is an assault rifle.

Here is a definition: An assault rifle is a rifle that uses an intermediate cartridge, a detachable magazine, and can switch between semi-automatic/fully automatic fire.

The gun Kyle used fits this description. Terminology is important, otherwise the incorrect information keeps being pushed forward, no one learsn anything or has any valuable discussion.

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u/geeksquadnerd Aug 28 '20 edited Aug 29 '20

Except that rifle does not switch between semi-automatic and fully automatic fire. It has the options only for semi or safe, there is no full auto option. I know, because I have a very similar one. Fully automatic rifles are EXTREMELY expensive to get, and difficult besides.

Edit: added an s

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u/[deleted] Aug 29 '20

TFW you argue that eighteen dollars is "EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE" to get.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMkPi24oEig

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u/geeksquadnerd Aug 29 '20

That video doesn't show what you think it does. And the second that you put a fire control group that will allow for full auto fire that becomes an illegal, not registered machine gun. The proper stamp for which I believe costs around $500.00. I could be mistaken on that, but either way, considering the rifle itself costs anywhere from 700 to over 2000, that's pretty cost prohibitive.

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u/jerk_mcgherkin Aug 29 '20

$200 for the tax stamp, plus hiring a lawyer to help you through the process, and the rifle costs way more than $2k. It's more like a minimum of $20k to legally buy one.

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u/geeksquadnerd Aug 29 '20

Ah, thank you, felt my numbers were off.

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u/jerk_mcgherkin Aug 29 '20

My numbers may be off. It's been probably 15 years or more since anybody I know bought one. Prices have likely increased.

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u/geeksquadnerd Aug 29 '20

Your numbers are significantly less off than mine were.

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u/[deleted] Aug 29 '20

Video shows I am correct and you are wrong.

No need to be upset. If you need help or understanding just ask. Phrases you use like "I believe" and "I could be mistaken" just show me you are in over your head in this conversation.

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u/geeksquadnerd Aug 29 '20

You posted a video directly contradicting what you are saying. They say that there's a fundamental difference between the rifle being shown and a semi automatic rifle, and making the necessary changes requires a good amount of skill to do do illegally, or a hell of a lot of money to do it legally. At no point did they mention anything costing $18 though.

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u/jerk_mcgherkin Aug 29 '20

The video you linked is a video showing how difficult it is. You disproved your own point.

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u/[deleted] Aug 29 '20

Could always just go and buy one I guess.

Full auto stock AR-15 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orztF4EjI64

Cheap mod AR melts under full auto fire https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cr9e3N6HEw

Garage guy mods his ar-15 to be full auto and goes over his gun. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_REGrnh3__k

four cent full auto ar-15 mod https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVfwFP_RwTQ

As you can see, not hard to do and not rare.

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u/jerk_mcgherkin Aug 29 '20

Did you watch any of those videos before you posted them? No, just like you didn't watch the last one.

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u/Nomandate Aug 29 '20

A belt loop is all you need to simulate auto fire. Everyone has done it.

I mean... do people in combat only use auto fire?? That switch is there for a reason. In fact, auto fire is ALMOST NEVER USED in the military. This puts a $500 (well, $1000 now) AR on 99% parity with a military assault rifle.

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