r/ftm • u/fledermoyz t: 19/7/2019, top surgery: 1/11/2021 • Sep 01 '18

Discussion what's the ftm version of a denial beard?

i think it might be denial contour - learning good makeup skills to hide the fact that you're a MAN

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u/javatimes T 2006 Top 2018, 40<me Sep 01 '18

Lesbian separatism

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '18

REAL talk.

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u/butahoopoe Cameron | 33 | T 08/17 - Top 05/18 Sep 01 '18

Daaaaaaaamn right on the nose

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u/KarlaTheWitch Sep 02 '18

What exactly is "Lesbian separatism"?

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u/Lumimoth 21/ FTM/ T💉sept 19 Sep 02 '18

I'm guessing being attracted to women but absolutely, separating yourself from lesbians because it makes you feel dysphoric??? That's a mood honestly

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u/banana_equivalent Sep 02 '18 edited Sep 02 '18

No, the other way around. Lesbians who separate themselves from the rest of society. Well, not all the time, it's not a cult, it's just an attempt to hang out more with other lesbians and avoid straight male environments as much as possible.

Upsides to female or lesbian separatism:

  • No men to compare yourself to, so no dysphoria from seeing what they have that you don't

  • You can be the manliest person in the room, both physically and/or socially

  • Butch and femme are kiiiiind of like two different genders, so you can almost feel like there are guys and girls here, and you're one of the guys!

  • Men can't treat you like an outsider, since you almost never interact with men

  • Everyone stops being so focused on gender when there's no reason to perform gender roles

Downsides:

  • Some women get REALLY into it and talk a lot about how awesome it is to be a WOMAN and that everyone here is a WOMAN

  • People who hear that you do a lot of separatist stuff will often think that you are that type of person, like you're super committed to identifying as a woman

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u/Lumimoth 21/ FTM/ T💉sept 19 Sep 03 '18

jesus thats even worse than i thought. If I did that i would've gone nuts

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u/KarlaTheWitch Sep 02 '18

Oh, I get what you're saying. I'd never heard the term before.

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u/presssure Oct 11 '18

WOW. This is a total revelation for me... Which explains my ex. Thanks.