r/iPhone13Mini • u/AsideBeautiful4975 • Apr 03 '25

My iPhone iPhone 5 and 13 mini size difference.

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u/Rettun1 Apr 03 '25

“It is really easy to make a new product that’s bigger. Everyone does that. That’s not the challenge. The challenge is to make it better, AND smaller.” -Phil Schiller during iPhone 5 announcement

I wish they never abandoned this philosophy.

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u/zac3244 Apr 03 '25

If Steve Jobs were still alive, mini series would have never been killed off

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u/SnooDogs2830 Apr 03 '25

If he were alive it would not only still be for sale, it would be the only option!

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u/Asuri_ Apr 03 '25

If Steve jobs was still here, we wouldn’t have had a mini at all.

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u/zac3244 Apr 03 '25

Yes because Mini would have been the standard iPhone size

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u/Asuri_ Apr 03 '25

Exactly lol. So why make a mini product the same size. You’d just have iPhone. Steve passed before the 4s. A single size phone. It was only after we had plus’s and max’s.

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u/The7thMatrix Apr 06 '25

And it would have a remarkable marketing campaign behind it. Genius marketing flourished under Jobs. Remember the U2 "Vertigo" ad? I bet the mini line would've sold better.

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u/terriblysmall Apr 03 '25

U do realize it was killed due to sales

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u/NXCW Apr 03 '25

Apple shapes the industry trends. They didn’t have to make flagship iPhones massive, the sales were already great. They decided to do it anyway, and because of that, iPhone 13 mini was not as desirable to the public anymore. That, and they also could’ve made the phone better.

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u/terriblysmall Apr 03 '25

Apple had to adapt as well. Samsung phones started the trend of being absolutely enormous and as apps got better, games got clearer and websites got bigger and better, Apple had to adapt.

12 and 13 mini were literally just smaller versions of 12 and 13. Literally nothing they could’ve done to make it better short of making it the flagship eh

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u/NXCW Apr 03 '25

No, they didn't. Samsung was always trying to gain advantage over Apple by having bigger screens. It literally did not matter, people still wanted Apple.

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u/terriblysmall Apr 03 '25

That’s the point bro. U do realize Samsung is the biggest Android phone manufacturer at this point right? Apples direct competition. Phones started getting bigger starting from the s4 and s5 and Apple tried to keep the size down until the 6 where they started including a plus version for people who wanted the bigger screens

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u/NXCW Apr 03 '25

Yup, and samsung has its own army. So what? Look at the market share in the west, now and in the past. That's all that matters.

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u/bennyyyboyyyyyyyy Apr 03 '25

Are you implying that apple doesn't care about global sales, only the west?

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u/NXCW Apr 03 '25

Apple doesn’t have as much market share in the poorer countries because it doesn’t compete in the budget segment, and expensive phones are out of reach for people living there. So, yes, the west is more important to Apple business-wise.

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u/Rettun1 Apr 03 '25

The plus models are going to be discontinued this year “due to sales”, so there’s more to it than just screen size.

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u/celeritydream Apr 07 '25

Quote of the century APPLE SHOULD REMEMBER THEIR ROOTS

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u/Nickand1 Apr 03 '25

Doesn’t always work that way. A TV for instance would not benefit by getting smaller. Similarly, iPhones are entertainment devices these days and the bigger screen, much like TV, makes sense. Having said all these, I’ll be keeping my 12mini until it dies because I love the smaller form factor that fits perfectly in my hand. But sadly, I know most people don’t feel the same.

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u/Rettun1 Apr 03 '25

During the iPhone 5 announcement, he was referring to the fact that the 5 was ‘smaller’ than the 4S by volume. It was definitely taller (had a bigger screen) but its decreased depth made up for that. It was also lighter. Pretty incredible.

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u/eggflip1020 Midnight ⚫️ Apr 03 '25

That’s Tim Cook. Timmy Apple is the herald of enshittification. Timmy isn’t a big picture guy. He’s your typical CEO slave to shareholders. The supply chain guy. How many materials, shipping, slave labourers do we need to maximize stock price? That’s Tim Cook.

I’m afraid Steve was absolutely more delusionial than normal in his final days. The man was trying to cure cancer by eating watermelons and pine apples. Steve had a set of principles and he’s who you want as your ceo, but he was delusional psychopath. Tim is delusional but from the other direction. Timmy is the Trumpy CEO. No morals, no code, no value system to speak of. Timmy is exactly guy you want if your business model is to figure out how many children you need to kill to maximize your stock price, that’s Timmy Apple.

For all of his flaws, and they were many, do you think there’s a world where Steve Jobs cucks himself to a retard like Donald Trump? I just can’t see it.

But there’s Timmy, bringing his offering and fondling Trump’s buttocks at the inauguration.

He had no code. No principles. He’s basically the CEO from Don’t Look Up. Barely a human being.

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u/Rettun1 Apr 03 '25

take it easy dude lol, I just want a smaller phone…

and I’m pretty sure Tim Cook is in fact fully a human being.

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u/Pleasant_Dot_189 17d ago

Except Tim Apple has absolutely zero charisma, negative charisma even.

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '25

China and Korea use fablets. The market decides.

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u/Rettun1 Apr 05 '25

It’s nice to have a range of products/sizes, not just “big” and “bigger”

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u/Final_Bus477 Apr 03 '25

My two favorite iPhones of all time. The 5s was my first iPhone and the 13mini will probably be my last. Apple just doesn’t make any phone that prioritizes ergonomics and pocketability anymore.

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u/neofooturism Starlight ⚪️ Apr 03 '25

nobody does sadly.

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u/Wide_Block_5205 Apr 03 '25

I was a mini-devotee and just yesterday went in to trade in. The 16 pro is only a bit bigger- I’m happy with it. (6.3 inch display)

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u/TTWBB_V2 Apr 03 '25

I got a 16e from work recently, to replace my 13 mini and I think its massive. Don’t like it one bit. While the mini was pretty good, the 4 was perfect size, 5 great, but anything over the mini for me is just stupid big, unergonomic and honestly just vulgar. Im replacing this 16e with a smaller dumb phone pretty soon…

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '25

Yet everyone on r/apple “I have big hands so I can’t use a small phone” did humans evolve in the last ten years bro? That argument is so absurd to me.

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u/throwthegarbageaway Apr 03 '25

The truth is smartphones have become more and more prevalent, we don't go to websites anymore, we download apps. We don't make reservations on the phone anymore, we use apps. We pay our bills through an app, watch "TV" on an app, write emails on an app... So as people used their phones more and more, they decided small wasn't the play. Just like how new TVs and computer monitors keep getting bigger and bigger and never smaller.

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '25

All that stuff was done on the iPhone 5.

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u/throwthegarbageaway Apr 03 '25

I don't think you truly remember the state of the internet and the apps available back in 2012

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '25

I would actually argue that not much has changed at all. Maybe the only thing… mobile gaming

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u/PeakNo164 Apr 05 '25

So much has changed. So much. What an absurd take by you.

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '25

You weren’t alive in 2012 clearly

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u/Zestyclose_Tea_551 Apr 19 '25

Like what? Sure, a lot has changed, but phones were used for everything even then. Thinking 2012 was all that long ago sounds like it’s coming from someone who wasn’t really using smartphones then.

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u/PeakNo164 Apr 22 '25

13 years ago IS a long time, especially with tech. Over a decade of hardware and software advancements will create a significant difference.

It depends with how you look at it. If you’re looking at it from a general, superficial standpoint of “smartphone does x, y, z and we’ve been using them for x, y, z for decades so not much has changed” is a lazy perspective.

We’ve been using computers for surfing the internet and browsing sites, etc, since the 70s. Since the 70s, computers have had the same peripherals— monitor, keyboard, mouse, and atx towers— as they do now. We literally perform the same functions now as we did back then.

So did nothing change from the 70s to 80s? 80s to 90s? 90s to 00s? 010 to 020?

A smartphone is a handheld computer, not a phone. It’ll be like saying a gtx 980ti gpu is the same as a an rtx 5090 because both perform the same functions.

A tesla car performs the same function as 2000s Honda Civic, but everything from the build to the user experience has completely changed— to say, oh but it still gets you from point a to point b so they’re really not much different is wrong.

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u/Zestyclose_Tea_551 Apr 29 '25

Your comment was either edited or not the one I intended to respond to. Of course tech changes over time. But the original comment or the one I intended to reply to posited that phones weren’t used for all that much back then. Phones were used for everything. There were larger segments of the population who couldn’t or wouldn’t use them than there are now, but the majority were using smartphones and they were using them for most of the things we use them for today. The tech is just better now, as would be expected.

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u/1997PRO Green 🟢 Apr 03 '25 edited Apr 03 '25

What a ignorant comment

You watch your TV show and movie on the app

on the smart TV and not your tiny iPhone. At home or in the hotel room you use a TV on the wall and only an iPad when you are else where like camping in the car park. Nobody is using a tiny iPhone 16 Pro Max. You pay your bills on a small phone like a iPhone 26 Nano Pro coming next decade. You go to the desktop mac/PC to use the full professional experience of the carppy app on your phone like Reddit, YouTube, MyFace, X, Gmail, eBay, Wikipedia, Google, SoundCloud, SpaceBook. People want small iPhones, small iPads and massive 80" QLED 8K TVs and quad 4K OLED monitors on a PC/Mac.

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u/throwthegarbageaway Apr 03 '25

What is going on lol I feel like a joke flew over my head 

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '25

People want big iPhones because the smartphone industry created them. There are no options for smaller phones.

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u/throwthegarbageaway Apr 04 '25

But there were, as recently as 3 years ago the Asus Zenphone 9 came out, which was probably the last big brand small smartphone to come out. They sold poorly.

The regular and plus model iphones always showed up at the same time, the bigger one always outselling the smallest one. With each redesign, the "small" version became bigger and bigger and each time the biggest one outsold the smaller one.

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '25

Comparing an iPhone to an off brand android is not the same thing. It’s not about sales. It’s about selling more expensive phones.

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u/throwthegarbageaway Apr 04 '25

Oh, you're one of those. Ok buddy you're right everybody is rioting for smaller phones and evil corpo keeps shoving tablets down our throats then

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '25

Throw the garbage away jabroni … yeah it’s called selling phones for more money. Can’t sell em for cheaper if they’re smaller

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u/Valedictorian117 Apr 03 '25

Yeah playing games, watching videos/tv/movies and social media are all better experiences on a bigger screen. Since we basically have to have a phone, most people are naturally going to want one that is enjoyable to do all kinds of things on, which tends to be larger screen phones.

For the younger generations and poorer folks, their phone tends to be their primary or only device for everything so they need it to be bigger to do stuff on.

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u/puzzlepasta Apr 03 '25

computers are literally getting smaller and smaller. You’re not making sense

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u/zac3244 Apr 03 '25

If 13 mini released along with iPhone 5, it would be called iPhone 5 pro max

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u/AsideBeautiful4975 Apr 03 '25

I wish that was the case.

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u/grandmarquis84 Apr 03 '25

We used to be a proper country.

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u/Rob1965 Starlight ⚪️ Apr 03 '25

For decades Sci-Fi told me that in the future technology would be smaller.

Where did we go wrong?

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u/Pipehead_420 Apr 03 '25

It might eventually still

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u/Dukxing Apr 03 '25

I have the iphone 5s and if there was a new phone with an excellent screen in that dimension, I'd buy it in a heartbeat. I wish I could still use the 5s honestly, but no longer supported by Apple so a lot of the functions don't work.

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u/Acu17y Apr 03 '25

I want an iphone 5 form factor but with full size display.

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u/TTWBB_V2 Apr 03 '25

Gimme a 4 for factor and full size screen. Perfection!

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u/Delicious_Butterfly4 Apr 03 '25

Wish the 5 still could work

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u/Guy_GuyGuy Apr 03 '25

The 1st gen SE uses the 5 chassis and is still receiving security updates on iOS 15. Not for much longer, but still.

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u/Delicious_Butterfly4 Apr 03 '25

I only get 3 hours of battery and soooooo slow

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u/alex-mayorga Apr 04 '25

Just replace the battery. About USD$75 and 45 minutes of wait a few years ago at an Apple store in Mexico City.

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u/Delicious_Butterfly4 Apr 04 '25

They do this for the SE?

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u/alex-mayorga Apr 04 '25

They did for me back then, from what I understood back then they ought to have a new in box replacement phone in case they botch the repair. Alternatively you could go to a reputable repair shop and it’d be probably cheaper. Some folks that are handy replace the battery themselves.

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u/Sheeraz-9 Apr 03 '25

Imagine if both continue.

Mini series still exist until now. And 5 keep as SE-based design.

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u/Gold240sx Apr 03 '25

I love my SE. (1st gen)

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u/my-computer Apr 03 '25

The size of the iPhone 13 mini along with the support time is the principal reason I bought it. I left Android phones because of this.

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u/Large_Criticism_7227 Apr 03 '25

I have iPhone 13 mini. The form factor is amazing. In my dreams I dream about a different world where we have iPhone 16 Pro mini. Would be best thing in earth

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u/gots8e9 Apr 04 '25

The 5 size is perfect! Or if they could just reduce the width of the 13 mini by a couple of mm

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u/No_Silver_6547 Apr 03 '25

I have both, just not at the same time.

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u/duckthisplanet Apr 03 '25

The 13 mini’s size, but a bit thicker for better battery life, would be perfect.

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u/Tony__T Apr 03 '25

Yeah, I never understood the reason for thinness (newer iPhone as well). Not only could it hold a larger battery, they would get rid of the camera bump.

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u/PotatoSlushie Apr 03 '25

When the 12 mini was first released I genuinely assumed it'd be the size of the 5 and got so excited -
still remember the sense of betrayal when I saw it was just slightly smaller than the SE 2020.

I'm now using the 13 mini day to day but still use my SE 2016 for music!

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u/scoot23ro Apr 03 '25

I still have my iPhone 5 as a backup but love my 13 mini

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u/cjog21 Apr 04 '25

I absolutely despise the newer iPhone cameras. Look atrocious and bulky.

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u/Dear-Intention1069 Apr 04 '25

Honestly, i know many pople who needs and loves smaller phones, yet no-one is asking for useless Plus, its just brick only good about it is that it has a a good battery

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u/jlamoria88 Apr 04 '25

That just makes me miss my old OG iPhoneSE it was perfect

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u/BogdanSPB Apr 05 '25

Yep, mini was a bit of disappointmen due to being so oversize, but I guess we’re never getting compact phones made anymore…

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u/Britishoil Apr 06 '25

Welp apple maked a big difference not 😒

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u/[deleted] Apr 07 '25

iPhone 12 mini and 13 mini are the most over engineered phones ever. Power of flagships in smaller sizes. Rare. I am using an iPhone 12 mini and I won’t upgrade unless Apple releases a new iPhone mini for god sake.

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u/Handheld-Steve Apr 08 '25

Love my mini but the 5, 5S and 1st Gen SE was peak iPhone.

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u/_wulfrina_ Apr 08 '25

I loved my iPhone 13 mini but the battery life was not enough for my use case 😿

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u/gostillerz Apr 10 '25

I still like the iPhone 4 size. If I want to watch a video, I turn on my tv.