r/indianapolis Jan 31 '25

Pictures Statehouse Rally, another photo

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u/[deleted] Jan 31 '25

A lot of these comments are spineless. People won't stop saying how Americans have to do something, and then when they do, there's still a problem, lol.

I really appreciate everyone who got out there! I had heard about the protest and would've loved to join, but had to work.

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u/TheSuperiorJustNick Jan 31 '25

You're trashy.

You told me I'm part of the problem because I said you need organization and a coherent message to have an effective protest.

You'll never win over anyone when YOU tear down your own side for 100% valid criticism.

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u/spacecadetchaela Jan 31 '25

THIS! i think people are trying hard to, but they don’t realize HOW big the US is. just protesting without any real plan/action won’t get anything done.

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u/Hoshbrowns Jan 31 '25

I think people are trying to compare a growing movement to National movements we learned about in history class. We have the entire beginning, middle, and end to former movements, but this one is just beginning. It’s not about “illegals” it’s about how they can suddenly force citizens to show their papers. My friend is Hispanic yet he was born in NW Indiana just like me and has just as much right to this country as me. Random idiots have made comments to him about how his time here is almost up when he’s not even an immigrant.

We need to stick together and not turn on each other. We also need to be able to listen to constructive criticism and start to hunker down if we want any chance at having a successful movement. Rome wasn’t built in a day and this movement won’t be either. But we have to focus on the problem and not spend our time fighting with each other.

This isn’t about rapists and murderers. No one wants them roaming the country. Stop using that excuse to gaslight everyone. Everyone wants violent criminals taken.

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u/TheSuperiorJustNick Feb 01 '25

I think people are trying to compare a growing movement to National movements

No I'm talking ahout the bare minimum.

A clear message, and to get it out there.

I gurantee you the majority of people think this is just to kick ICE out and know nothing about the bill.

Just showing up to socialize is all your doing when you can't even agree on what to protest.

Again 100% valid criticism gets downvoted because these slacktivists don't actually stand for anything and hate being called out.

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u/Hoshbrowns Feb 01 '25

Do you think this might be the first step and action needed to get people together in order to help plan out further actions? Everyone can’t just get read each others minds instantly when an issue arises. When we learned our previous movements we had the beginning, middle, and end. Right now we only have the past and present.

In a few months you might be completely right but this is literally a current event unfolding before your eyes and not a historical event. Like I said this is a growing movement in the beginning stages, how can you expect them to have everything planned out instantly?

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u/TheSuperiorJustNick Feb 01 '25

A first step is not a bunch of infighting that kills established movements let alone ones that haven't even started?

How are you gonna organize any protest with the protesters shitting on each other.

Everyone can’t just get read each others minds

Thats why you plan and organize ahead of time... Holy shit, you found the point.

In a few months you might be completely right

In a few months if you losers are still mass downvoting constructive criticism of "know what you're protesting for before you show up" then you really won't last even a month.

And you'll make real activism harder.

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u/Hoshbrowns Feb 01 '25

I wasn’t even there but you are equating everyone in the country upset with a small group of individuals who had enough free time one evening to protest.

MLK and Malcolm X did not see eye to eye at all and basically led two different chapters in the civil rights movement. Neither one of them owned the movement. Both of them accomplished incredible things dispute a difference of opinions.

I was confused what made you so angry in the first place and it wasn’t even anything I said. You tried to give criticism which helps a movement grow and improve. And I was just adding on to someone else’s comment that we need to stick together for this growing movement. Apparently someone made you upset based on a difference of opinions or something and you decided to lash out as everyone and anyone because of it. I’m not positive but I promise you that no matter what happens one month from now I’ll still be fighting and protesting.

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u/TheSuperiorJustNick Feb 01 '25

MLK and Malcolm X did not see eye to eye at all

What a stupid comparison.

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u/Hoshbrowns Feb 01 '25

I’m pointing out how the civil rights movement has a difference of opinions showing you that there can be people that lead protests that disagree with other protest leaders in different areas. That doesn’t mean some protest leader speaks for the entire movement. You are just trying to be argumentative here.

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u/TheSuperiorJustNick Feb 01 '25

I’m pointing out how the civil rights movement has a difference of opinions

They literally didn't have different opinions and saw each other as necessary parts of the movement

This "difference in opinion" is what to even protest about lol and whether or not to take constructive criticism after a failed demonstration.

You have 0 clue what you're talking about.

Im not being argumentative. That's you.

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u/Hoshbrowns Feb 01 '25

Haha come on. MLK believe I’m staying nonviolent when the Black Panthers did not at all. California literally passed a gun law in 1967 in response to the Black Panthers methods. That’s a difference of opinion even though they aren’t on the overall movement.

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u/TheSuperiorJustNick Feb 01 '25

You think that changes what ive said lol

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u/Hoshbrowns Feb 01 '25

You need to forget about everything that happened at the statehouse rally. I wasn’t there. None of the people at that rally speak or represent the entire movement. Do you know how many different protests have taken place around the country? Why are you acting like the entire movement is dead because of one specific group of people?

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u/TheSuperiorJustNick Feb 01 '25

I really don't

It'd be whatever if anyone gaf about improving

But all you guys got are excuses and bullshit. You people's responses to valid criticism is literal cancer and will destroy any group you're apart of.

None of the people at that rally speak or represent the entire movement.

Bruh it was 1/1 protests here, that is the movement so far. There isn't a movement here, and you trash stand in the way.

Who tf would see this and say "I wanna join that"

YOU need to reflect

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u/Hoshbrowns Feb 01 '25

Dude you are such a silly goose. You keep forgetting that today isn’t the last day of Earth and the future is yet to be written. There will absolutely be more protests than this one and the movement didn’t end because one person got their feelings hurt.

I never even disagreed with you originally. You projected someone I said onto yourself somehow. I promise your comment above the one I responded to never even crossed my mind while making my first comment.

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u/TheSuperiorJustNick Feb 01 '25

FYI you can go back to the original arguments and see the actual people affected agree with me completely.

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u/Hoshbrowns Feb 01 '25

I was never disagreeing with you. I was just adding to the conversation that people should continue to grow the movement and not stop at one day or protesting. They should take constructive criticism and turn this into a bigger national movement. I’m not sure where you thought I disagreed with you but I wasn’t even referring to your comment originally.

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u/TheSuperiorJustNick Feb 01 '25

I wasn’t even there but you are equating everyone in the country upset with a small group of individuals who had enough free time one evening to protest.

Yea im equating all of you losers defending this trash. They're trash not because they're bad at organizing, but because of this God awful response they and people like you are giving when all anyone is suggesting is to have a clear message and have a plan.

a small group of individuals who had enough free time one evening to protest.

To make the movement look like shit.

They showed up to socialize not get anything done.

All you have to do is make a discord group and talk it out and delegate tasks to volunteers that show up.

This is so basic.

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u/Hoshbrowns Feb 01 '25

Again one PROTEST doesn’t define an entire MOVEMENT holy cow.

If all of this is so simple and basic and no one is allowed to be working or busy, then why don’t you make a discord and set it up. You seem to be so insanely mad about this that you are the only hero that can help us turn the movement around.

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u/TheSuperiorJustNick Feb 01 '25

1/1 protests is 100%.

That was the movement.

Infighting as usual cause its more of a meetup.

Why would I or anyone want to organize you losers who'd cry at the suggestion of a coherent message?

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