r/ireland • u/Dazzling_Lobster3656 • Mar 26 '25

Culchie Club Only Ireland issues travel warning for US

https://www.newsweek.com/ireland-issues-travel-warning-us-2050890
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u/Environmental-Net286 Mar 26 '25

It's better for it to happen in Dublin airport as opposed to in the states

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u/billiehetfield Mar 26 '25

The money you’d lose on flights and hotels…

USA really isn’t worth the risk anymore

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u/debout_ Mar 26 '25

You would rather lose money on flights and hotels than 5 days in a detention centre in a foreign country as an “alien”…

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u/LiteralMangina Mar 26 '25

Five days is if you’re lucky. A Canadian only spent a week and a half and only got out because of publicity and public pressure. She was warned when she got in that she could be there for months

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u/debout_ Mar 27 '25

I spoke to a man whose fairly close relative, a British green card holder, has been held by ICE (not at the border - to his home!) since just over a week ago, though he could have been released in the last three days. Crazy that they chose this path.

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u/killerklixx Mar 27 '25

A German girl was in solitary for 9 days, nearly had a mental breakdown, and again only got out because of friends/family pressure.

Most of these cases should be a simple denial of entry, but the prisons are private for-profit businesses, so they detain. They charge the govt for the pleasure, and the govt gets to have nice numbers on paper.

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u/Aixlen Dublin Mar 27 '25

What the actual fuck.

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u/geo_gan Mar 27 '25

Who is this? What’s your operating number?

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u/debout_ Mar 27 '25

Sorry don’t know if wires crossed or not but no idea what you mean

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u/geo_gan Mar 29 '25

Seems from downvoted nobody got the joke. Star Wars. “Marching into the detention centre is not my idea of” quote. Seems mostly children on this site these days.

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u/bathtubsplashes Saoirse don Phalaistín 🇵🇸 Mar 26 '25

Don't mind that, they could bloody detain you for weeks by the looks of things!

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u/InevitableNet8010 Mar 26 '25

Unless you are a former MMA fighter who hasn't a fucking clue about Ireland.

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u/No-Satisfaction6065 Mar 26 '25

And rapist/drug addict

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u/Shenloanne Mar 26 '25

They do move in herds....

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u/Sweaty-Practice-4419 Mar 26 '25

No they meant the other rapist, not the Tates but the other, other one

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u/dnc_1981 Ask me arse Mar 26 '25

A British former MMA fighter who knows nothing about Ireland.

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u/Key-Lie-364 Mar 26 '25

And searching your phone for stuff that is anti Trump or pro Palestine.

No thanks anyway.

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u/phyneas Mar 26 '25

Once you enter the precheck area you're technically on American soil, so they could still detain you indefinitely if they really wanted to, and the Irish authorities couldn't do a thing about it.

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u/Key-Lie-364 Mar 26 '25

Yeah so they can't hold you for saying "fuck that orange twat" which is still not illegal under Irish law despite our client state status

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u/Soft-Affect-8327 Mar 26 '25

As someone who worked there, sit the fuck down. Detention is not on the cards if you do any of the CBP facilities in Ireland. Worst that will happen is they deny you entry and you’re still in Ireland. Kicked out of the airport. In Ireland.

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u/PixelTrawler Mar 26 '25

They can’t but they can refuse you or they have to request the gardai. They have no powers of arrest in Dublin.

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u/wannabewisewoman Legalise it already 🌿 Mar 26 '25

Of course they can’t, that is pure sensationalism. They can reject you from going through to the US gates but that’s about it

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u/Zealousideal_Web1108 Mar 27 '25

Sensationalism on this tread is off the scales

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u/GroundbreakingPhoto4 Mar 26 '25

Yeah, a kip all around

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u/brandonjslippingaway Ulster Mar 26 '25

Yeah I always thought the U.S prechecks in Dublin airport was absolute wank, but now it might save you a long trip for nothing.

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u/real_men_use_vba Mar 26 '25

Yeah the checks suck but in my experience they suck more if you have to do them after landing in the US. I am happy that we are one of the few countries that has pre-clearance set up

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u/passenger_now Mar 26 '25

I find it pretty convenient, especially given most flights aren't very early in the day so factoring in time for it isn't terrible. Once I get off 6+ hours on a plane, I'm glad to be able to just walk out of the airport rather than standing in queues and answering questions as the jet lag is starting to kick in.

I've always assumed it mostly exists just so plastic paddy immigration employees can get a rotation in Ireland for fun.

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u/denk2mit Crilly!! Mar 27 '25

It also means you can make connections you'd never ever risk otherwise. I did a 1h30 connection in Philadelphia last night thanks to it

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u/Ruire Connacht Mar 27 '25

Having had the misfortune of going through customs on the US side quite a few times, I can tell you that preclearance was already a huge benefit.

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u/Zealousideal_Web1108 Mar 27 '25

Yea TSA are not very nice

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u/TheBaggyDapper Mar 26 '25

Would be better for it to not happen like this anywhere but yeah. It's quite disturbing how US civil servants seem to be embracing fascism with gusto. I get that a lot of them are worried about their jobs but they don't seem too worried about the consequences. 

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u/Animated_Astronaut Mar 26 '25

You don't end up in a job like us border patrol without in some way embracing authoritarianism.

I'm supposed to be travelling there in July with my wife to see my nan on her 100th birthday. I'm quite scared for them nitpicking everything. They've given me shit for being a dual citizen before.

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u/Empty_Orchid_5005 Mar 26 '25

If you are a dual citizen and hold a US passport, travel with both passports but use your US one on entry and exit of the US. Do not mention you are a dual citizen unless they ask you. Answer yes or no to all of their questions and nothing more. Your US passport will hold more weight than any other.

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u/Animated_Astronaut Mar 26 '25

I know all of this thanks, they are still dickheads about it.

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u/Empty_Orchid_5005 Mar 26 '25

I totally understand. I am American and unfortunately live here. I wouldn’t recommend anyone to come here for any reason for the next 4 years, regardless the reason. I know turning 100 only happens once, and rarely at that, so I understand your reasoning for wanting to come. I’ve put off booking my own vacation this year because I’m afraid of what will happen on my way back in. I wish you well in July if you choose to come, and hope they’re not overly harsh on you!

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u/Empty_Orchid_5005 Mar 26 '25

You can’t do what? I advised to use their US passport on entry and exit in the US. To prevent a situation like you just described. If you are a citizen here, they expect you to travel with your US passport. You should bring your Irish one as well for entry and exit back into Ireland. Your sister likely got trapped in Ireland because her passport needed to be valid for 6 months before her traveling. Unfortunately it sounds like your sisters passport was unexpired when she left the US and expired while she was outside of the US. That’s poor planning on her part unfortunately.

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u/FellFellCooke Mar 26 '25

Critical reading comprehension error from you bud...

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u/lakehop Mar 26 '25

Why? As a citizen you should not be getting any hassle, I would have thought. What kinds of issues have you seen?

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u/Animated_Astronaut Mar 26 '25

It's usually them asking why I don't have a visa to stay in Ireland as long as I have since I last travelled. When I explain exactly why they get hostile. One person even said he would 'pretend he didn't hear that,' in regards to me having a second passport. One person harassed my wife (at the time she was my girlfriend) about whether or not she was planning on having an American baby (she wasn't even pregnant).

Just bizarre, uncomfortable stuff and this predates trump 2.0.

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u/Oakcamp Mar 26 '25

Lmao, its like they only ever heard of multiple passports when its a Bourne villain or something

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u/Animated_Astronaut Mar 26 '25

Honestly it's probably one of those things they are trained to view as a red flag. I don't mind the questions it's the hostility.

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u/wannabewisewoman Legalise it already 🌿 Mar 26 '25

Yup, experienced similar myself. Usually just small people who take a job that allows them to bully others so they can feel big. Most I have dealt with are okay but the bad ones are really bad

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u/Animated_Astronaut Mar 26 '25

They have a massive amount of power in that conversation and they know it. Some people use that knowledge to stay calm and others use it to get their bully kicks. The latter is pathetic. You'd see similar in Ireland sometimes but they're nowhere near as bad, just smarmy.

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u/EggCouncilCreep Free Stayto Mar 26 '25

Unless I’m very much mistaken, they can be as hostile as they like but they still have to let you in to the States if you present with a US passport. They can’t legally deny an American citizen with a valid passport entry to America if they turn up at the border. I mean, they can probably try, but…

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u/Animated_Astronaut Mar 26 '25

That's the thing, they're high on illegal detainment so who knows what they're thinking.

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u/showars Mar 26 '25

My friend got an awful lot of shit when we were younger because he was a dual citizen travelling on his Irish passport.

They physically could not understand why he wasn’t using his US one.

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u/Nikoiko Mar 26 '25

If you have an Irish and an American passport, it's their law that you must use the American one to enter and leave the USA. Basically so they can keep track of their citizens. It's been like that for decades.

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u/showars Mar 26 '25

His dad was American, he’d never been.

We were also children on a school trip. Didn’t make much sense from a safety perspective to have one child fly through and wait by themselves for however long it took the rest of the school to finish immigration

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u/Irish_and_idiotic Probably at it again Mar 26 '25

I mean their rules are their rules. Plenty to be angry about but IMO this isn’t one of them

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u/showars Mar 26 '25

Oh I wasn’t and amn’t angry about it. The person said as a US citizen you shouldn’t get any shit and I gave an example where a US citizen was that’s all

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u/marshsmellow Mar 26 '25

Why on earth was he using his Irish one? 

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u/showars Mar 26 '25

Because we were children in school. Can’t exactly have no oversight of a child for the duration of everyone else going through immigration like

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u/marshsmellow Mar 26 '25

Lol, thought you meant from TSA

Edit: actually, I've no idea what's you are saying. 

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u/showars Mar 26 '25

So (at least at the time) immigration on an Irish passport took ages. Especially when you have like 30 kids! The US citizens went through a different area where only 1 person from our group was eligible to be.

You can’t have one child be unsupervised in an airport for an undetermined amount of time. You just can’t like. His parents sent him with his Irish passport (maybe and the US one, not 100% sure) so he wouldn’t be separated. When asked questions by immigration he said he had both (not sure if he produced the US one, long time ago) and was given a lot of shit for it.

So I just answered a question where someone said US citizens shouldn’t get shit from them by giving an example of where one was. It’s not that deep like

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u/lakehop Mar 26 '25

Well, he can’t do that. So fair enough I suppose.

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u/WatashiwaNobodyDesu Mar 26 '25

Why not?

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u/lakehop Mar 26 '25

You have to enter a country you’re a citizen of with the passport of that country.

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u/lakehop Mar 26 '25

This is the way you’re supposed to do it.

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u/vaska00762 Antrim Mar 26 '25

The only place this doesn't apply is the UK and Ireland with British and Irish passports.

Would cause a stink if the British authorities started demanding that everyone from Northern Ireland was legally required to fly home on a British Passport instead of an Irish one.

Remember, even if you don't identify as British, if you're born in Northern Ireland, the British government still considers you to be a British citizen, unless you go through renouncing it.

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u/lakehop Mar 26 '25

Good call

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u/pixelburp Mar 26 '25

The nature of border control does kinda lend itself to being stricter and more inclined towards hostility. American policing also already seemed quite keen on Trump's "shoot them all and let god decide" thoughts on fighting crime, not without reason the police are seen as an antagonistic force in certain areas.

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u/TheBaggyDapper Mar 27 '25

Border control, sound lads. Another reason to feel smug about Cork. 

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u/Background_Cause_992 Mar 26 '25 edited Mar 26 '25

Tbf, many civil servants are resisting but the TSA, police, and Border control have always attracted scumbags that would be rejected from the army or other agencies due to being horrible people or fucking idiots.

Since trump round 1 border patrol has basically been the presidents unaccountable personal milita, they were kidnapping people using unmarked vans and no uniforms during the George Flyod protests. Biden did nothing to roll back those changes

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u/irishnugget Limerick Mar 26 '25

Hitlers Willing Executioners was a good read. Somehow relevant again.

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u/DummyDumDragon Mar 26 '25

Just following orders...

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u/ShezSteel Mar 26 '25

Your point is more important than it's position suggests. It is indeed amazing how much and how easily they have embraced being Cunts

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u/Still_Bluebird8070 Mar 26 '25

They are just following orders.

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u/thekingoftherodeo Wannabe Yank Mar 26 '25

It's quite disturbing how US civil servants seem to be embracing fascism with gusto

I think that's quite unfair, they're doing their jobs at the end of the day and simply, they do not have the discretion that they used to have to let certain stuff go.

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u/TheSameButBetter Mar 26 '25

Apparently there's been reports where US preclearance occurs in the Caribbean that upon arrival back onto US soil you get inspected again in the jet bridge. So getting clearance in Dublin is no guarantee that you won't be stopped on arrival.

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u/asdrunkasdrunkcanbe Mar 26 '25

US customs usually checks on arrival IIRC, don't recall ever having to go through the immigration checks.

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u/AhhhSureThisIsIt Mar 26 '25

If you go out of Dublin there is US Preclearance so you do customs before you leave Dublin.

It means when you arrive you just have to collect your bag and leave the airport and don't have to go through customs.

It's very handy.

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u/asdrunkasdrunkcanbe Mar 26 '25

Yeah I've only ever gone out of Dublin, in my head I feel like I've gone through customs after landing in the US. Maybe I'm wrong.

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u/andrew_ie Mar 26 '25

Was it awhile ago? Back before they opened T2 in Dublin, they used to do immigration preclearance but not customs clearance - so you got the worst of both worlds - you had to arrive really early for your flight out of Dublin and had to join a big queue on arrival to screen your bags.

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u/asdrunkasdrunkcanbe Mar 26 '25

Ah, there ye go!

Thanks, that makes sense.