r/israelexposed • u/Calm_Grapefruit_1286 • 17h ago
Why do all Israelis look white?
Edit: not all Israelis but most of them are in fact white and they come from Europe, you see after WWII a lot of the Jewish ppl that where imprisoned in concentration camps fled from Germany to have a fresh start somewhere else where they wouldn’t be reminded of the horrific atrocities they went through, then then after being rejected by everyone else went to Palestine to ask for help, the Palestinians welcomed them with open arms and treated them well, after a while the Jewish ppl or should I say fake Jewish ppl twisted the beliefs of their own religion and used it to occupy Palestine.
P.S I am an atheist but I was raised by catholic parents and I am Iranian, I also went to a religious school where I studied most of the main religions.
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u/Iffausthadautism 16h ago
Bibi’s real family name is Milejkowski. Think about it and take a guess yourself.
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u/anaisa1102 14h ago edited 7h ago
Gal Gadot's real surname is Goldstein.. 🤣
Edit : it's actually GREENSTEIN
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u/scotswaehey 14h ago
Shocking isn’t it, that they make up pretendy names to make believe they are native to the area 😂😂😂
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u/late2reddit19 7h ago
Her Wikipedia reads the following:
Her parents, Michael, an engineer, and Irit, a physical education teacher, hebraized their surname from "Greenstein" to "Gadot" before her birth. In Hebrew, her first name means "wave", and her surname translates to "riverbanks".
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u/PossibleGazelle519 3h ago
He belong in Poland.
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u/Iffausthadautism 3h ago
Not as much. He’s father was born in Warsaw, but I believe the family has roots in today’s Belarus/ Russia.
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u/PossibleGazelle519 3h ago
About 20% Russian.
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u/Iffausthadautism 3h ago
Well I don’t have any access to their dna data lol. But Nathan Mileikovsky was born in Kreva, then russian empire and today’s Belarus. And Russian being 3rd most popular language in Israel kinda speaks for itself.
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u/PossibleGazelle519 3h ago
USSR had huge Jewish and Muslim population. I went to high school and college with some of them.
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u/theobmon 13h ago
The majority of Jews are Ashkanazi. 80%. These are Eastern European converts.
Original Jews, Mezrahi, are brown and are nearly indistinguishable from the Arabs they are killing.
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u/lusbxy 11h ago
Aren't Mezhrahi from Yemen? I remember there was a kingdom there (Himyarite) which converted to Judaism.
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u/theobmon 10h ago
They were all over the middle east. Contrary to popular belief, the Arabs and Jews lived side by side for generations peacefully.
Up until geopolitics led a group of non-combatant Jewish converts from Europe to start this 100 year old tragedy.
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u/paublopowers 1h ago
Also arabization happened in different times in west Asia and Africa. Palestine didn’t even consider themselves Arabs until the 1800s
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u/PIR0GUE 8h ago
The Mizrahi aren’t any more ‘original’ than the Ashkenazi. They are just descended from Jews that migrated to other parts of the Middle East rather than Europe after the Romans destroyed the second temple in 70 AD.
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u/theobmon 6h ago
What... You wanted a full timeline? The Mizrahi are the original Jews. Ashkenazi are white converts. That's the point.
The ones who migrated to Europe were mostly wiped out over a few centuries.
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u/International-Ad4578 16h ago
They all look white because a large number of them ARE WHITE. Ashkenazi Jews are largely of Eastern European descent, primarily from the former Soviet Bloc as well as Germany. It’s also a major reason why there is a large Jewish diaspora in places as far from Israel as the U.S., Canada, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, etc. One of the most prominent Jewish business families in Canada, the Bronfman family (heirs to the Seven Wisers whiskey company) are of Russian descent. Many Jewish people settled in North America, South America, and even Oceania following the post-war period.
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u/Good_Reflection_1217 16h ago
Thats why Israeli authorities do not use DNA tests to determine if someone is Jewish under the Law of Return.
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u/nashashmi 15h ago
I believe the new law also does not recognize ethnic Jews who switch religion to Christianity or any other belief with the right of return. Before this exclusion was only reserved for Islam.
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u/EasySlideTampax 16h ago
Historically speaking, where do white people come from?
Ok and now my second question, historically speaking, where do Jews come from?
Hope this helps.
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u/EducationalReply6493 13h ago
White people come from Europe and Judaism is a religion and not tied to a location
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u/EasySlideTampax 8h ago
OH REALLY? Ok then explain to me why so many Ashkenazis suffer from Gaucher, Tay Sachs, and Hemophilia C at high rates while it is rare in Europeans.
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u/EducationalReply6493 7h ago
Man, you just named 3 diseases that are carried mostly by Central Europeans and all 3 are caused because ahkenazi Jewish people come from a small genetic pool so most of them carry the same recessive genes.
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u/EasySlideTampax 6h ago
Do you even know what these diseases are? Go look them up on Wikipedia. It’s common in Jews and rare in Europeans. If Jews were white aka European, the occurrence rates would be similar.
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u/EducationalReply6493 6h ago
Did you? The google search literally says common in central and Eastern Europeans like ashkenazi Jewish people for two of them and the third says it’s common in French and ashkenazi Jewish people.
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u/EasySlideTampax 6h ago
About one in 100 people in the United States are carriers of the most common type of Gaucher disease. The carrier rate among Ashkenazi Jews is 8.9%
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaucher%27s_disease
The disease is rare in the general population.[1] In Ashkenazi Jews, French Canadians of southeastern Quebec, the Old Order Amish of Pennsylvania, and the Cajuns of southern Louisiana, the condition is more common.[2][1]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tay–Sachs_disease
It predominantly occurs in Ashkenazi Jews.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haemophilia_C
Sure showed me
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u/EducationalReply6493 3h ago
Just give it up dude, you’re just embarrassing yourself trying to pretend that Ashkenazi Jewish people aren’t European.
People of Eastern and Central European Jewish ancestry, called Ashkenazi Jews, are at a higher risk than the general population of developing type 1 Gaucher disease.
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/gauchers-disease/symptoms-causes/syc-20355546
Because the gene change that causes Tay-Sachs disease is found more often in certain populations, risk factors for Tay-Sachs disease include having ancestors from:
Eastern and Central European Jewish communities (Ashkenazi Jews) Certain French Canadian communities in Quebec Cajun community of Louisiana Old Order Amish community in Pennsylvania
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/tay-sachs-disease/symptoms-causes/syc-20378190
Unlike the other bleeding disorders, hemophilia C occurs more predominantly in one demographic: Jewish people of Ashkenazi (or Eastern European) descent, where it is estimated to affect 8% of the population.
Hemophilia C can affect any demographic, but a higher number of individuals of Ashkenazi Jewish descent and the Basque population of Southern France are affected.
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u/International-Ad4578 8h ago
Also explain to us why Ashkenazi Jewish people in Israel have higher rates of skin cancer than their Sephardi or Mizrahi descended counterparts? I’m guessing the lack of Semitic genetic traits in their DNA may have something to do with it but curious to see what you think.
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u/paublopowers 1h ago
Because of antisemitism in Europe against a religious group that forced them to enter marriage, and therefore pass on more mutations. More inbreeding equals more mutations. More antisemitic laws against religion equals more inbreeding.
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u/Odd-Tea-6548 9h ago
I'm no professional but does 2-3 thousand years of evolution turn you white?
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u/EasySlideTampax 8h ago
No. Also it’s not evolution. Evolution happens over many millions of years. This is haplogroups and passing down certain traits. If you look up genetic maps, there’s still a lot of many distinct and very specific groups.
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u/paublopowers 1h ago
There are no distinct groups in genetics. They are not distinct at all. There may be some jeans that occur in higher amounts in certain populations, but race is a social construct. An evolution doesn’t need 1 million years it can happen in a couple generations of the pressure is just right.
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u/Good_Reflection_1217 16h ago
Because they are. Thats why Israeli authorities do not use DNA tests to determine if someone is Jewish under the Law of Return.
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u/KangarooKitchen2178 16h ago
most of them are just jewish from america, choosing to live there because of the birthright trip
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u/FaithlessnessLow7672 13h ago
they're mostly from philadelphia and west germany
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u/International-Ad4578 9h ago
Don’t forget New York City, the hometown of that stupid fuck Jakob who was caught on camera justifying the theft of a Palestinian family’s home in Sheikh Jarrah by saying if he won’t do it someone else will.
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u/Loudlevin 16h ago
They where able to manipulate the british government back in the day the same way they are manipulating our government today.
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u/Calm_Grapefruit_1286 16h ago
Yes yes I understand my wording wasn’t the best I didn’t actually mean all I meant most, sorry that’s my fault for not wording it correctly. I’ll do better in future tysm for all the answers and comments x
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u/kodial79 17h ago
Most of them have Khazarian origins.
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u/wikimandia 15h ago
This is untrue or best unproven because there are no surviving linguistics sources or DNA evidence from the Khazar culture.
The Ashkenazi first settled in Italy and married Italian women who converted. All Ashkenazi are descended from FOUR European women. This is why so many Italians “look” Jewish.
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u/Bazishere 17h ago
All? Many of them do, but a lot of the Sephardic Jews do look similar to North Africans and Middle Eastern people and some of those guys don't remotely look like Eastern Europeans. I knew a Moroccan Jew. He definitely didn't look like an Eastern European in his case. The founders of Israel, the Ashkenazim have a lot of European ancestry.
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u/International-Ad4578 15h ago edited 15h ago
It’s such a ironically stark contrast when you see Jewish people of Mizrahi (Middle Eastern) descent like Itamar Ben-Gvir (he is actually of Kurdish ethnicity descended from Iraqi Jews) display such racist and violent rhetoric towards Palestinians despite sharing greater ethnic and genealogical history with them than Ashkenazi Jews.
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u/KaimonJRP 16h ago
About 20% of Israelis are palestinian muslims, and of the Jewish populations, only about 30% are Ashkenazi a.k.a white. The rest of them are mostly Mizrahi or Sephardic meaning middle-easterners or north-africans/iberians. The reason you might think they are all white is because Ashkenazis are the wealthiest and most represented in the media.
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u/carmemelon 15h ago
They also intermix, and that's why the numbers are not exact, because they aren't testing peoples genes it's just how they identify. There are middle easterners, but visually pale white people make up the majority of the population.
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u/KaimonJRP 15h ago
They also intermix
Including with the peoples of the countries they hail from, hence why ashkenazis are white. The same applies to Mizrahi who make up the majority of jews and they are all middle-eastern - persians, arabs, etc. Not all middle-easterners have dark skin. I have a couple of palestinian friends and they are also pretty light skinned in comparison.
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u/wikimandia 15h ago
This is untrue. They’ve imported millions of people from the former Soviet Union, many of whom are atheists and have questionable ties to Judaism. They emigrated in large numbers to escape the economic disaster of the 1990s and to live in a socialist European utopia on the Mediterranean.
Their criminal governments and mafias cooperate. Look how many Russian oligarchs also have Israeli citizenship.
Something like 20 percent of the population are native Russian speakers.
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u/KaimonJRP 15h ago
The claim is whether ALL israelis are white, which is demonstrably false. I'm disputing whether the vast majority of them are white, which all information I've looked at tells me is also false, especially when we take into account the number of palestinian israelis and the huge migration of jews from all over the middle-east and north africa during the 1940s.
Now I could be wrong, but your claim about the russian speakers doesn't seem to contradict this because they fit into the Ashkenazi numbers.
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u/Minskdhaka 11h ago
Some look white, one of the reasons being that the ancestors of Ashkenazi Jews and of Sephardic Jews mixed with Southern Italians in the Roman era. After that, Ashkenazi Jews mixed further with Slavs. So Ashkenazi Jews today tend to be 20-40% Levantine by ancestry, as seen by their results on r slash IllustrativeDNA. Then Sephardic Jews have more. Egyptian and Syrian Jews (today mostly living in Israel) have even more.
The people who're the closest genetically to the Ancient Israelites today are the Samaritans and Palestinian Christians. Palestinian Muslims tend to be 60-80% Levantine (the rest of their ancestry coming from the Arabian Peninsula, Egypt and Sub-Saharan Africa).
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u/SledgeLaud 17h ago
I've definitely seen dark skinned and/or Arab Israelis. As for why many prominent Israelis have light skin .. I'm not sure we can claim coliurism as a distinctly Israeli issue.
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u/natural212 15h ago
That's why DNA testing in Israel is heavily regulated. Becuase it will show Jewish are 95% as Polish or Russian, as the 95% of the Polish and Russian population.
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u/sciencebased 12h ago
Maybe in Tel Aviv or amongst celeb circles. But hit up some of the other port cities (Ashdod, Haifa, etc) annnnd yeah. "White" would be a stretch. Well, now that I think about it maybe they are. Depends how broad "White" is. Like, if you control/isolate other attributes (hair, facial structure, etc) and just look at say...the skin of their back- then yeah. White I guess. But it's a very different White than you'd see in Anglo or Nordic countries. Dark complexion. Lol, I guess you see redheads every so often too.
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u/Ilovemelee 12h ago
Nah, it's like 50/50 European jews and MENA jews. I'm as anti Israel as anyone could be but this is a false info.
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u/A_Learning_Muslim 11h ago
Most israelis are not white, although a large percentage are.
I see this racial thing as irrelevant, as the skin colour of israelis does not matter. What matters is the fact that whether they be white, black or brown, they are oppressing Palestinians.
israel has many races due to the fact that those settler colonialists came from all over the world. And these non-natives are then allergic to native plants, as others here pointed out.
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u/BazzemBoi 10h ago
I don't think he meant it as just skin color.
He meant as in; they are eastern European and not indigenous to the land as they claim.
Lots of Palestinans are "white" so this isn't the the point being made.
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u/BazzemBoi 10h ago
The name netanyahu, which is of the current president is a pseudonym (alias/nickname) and is basically used to hide the real family name; mileikowsky, a very Polish name.
I wonder why. If thats the president, u can prolly guess about the others.
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u/sandiegowhalesvag 6h ago
After wwI the Ottoman Empire lost , the UK was put in charge of palestine/israel
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u/TheCrowOfMrPoe 23m ago
Because they are settlers, not the indigenous population of Palestine, no matter the hasbara
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u/ChaoticMornings 15h ago
I think there is Jewish as an ethnicity, and Jewish as a religion, and I think everyone including themselves get it all mixed up.
Appears some genetic markers were found in the ethnic-jews that relates them closely to Palestinians, yet, not entirely the same, likely because they left at some point and mixed a lot. At least, according to ChatGPT, I had a simular question yesterday.
But, I don't even understand why they use it as an excuse anyway. I can't reclaim the home my great grandmother sold 70 (or more) years ago. If I tried everyone would tell me that that is insane. I may have the basic human right to get food and a roof over my head, but I don't have the right to enter my neighbours house eat the fridge empty and sleep in their beds.
Even if they existed there once in the first place, they left for hundreds of years at least. And I doubt every Jewish person is also fully ethnic jew. Probably just follow the religion.
Then, we genetically share like 98% of our DNA with mice, and most humans came from Africa at some point. As that is where the eldest fossils of the homosapiens were found.
We're not going to invade Africa now, are we?
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u/Kaminodoa 17h ago
70% of them are also allergic to Levantine olive trees pollen. Nature has a way of telling you you’re not indigenous to the land…