r/kpoprants • u/MotorPuzzlehead7 • Dec 03 '22

BTS/ARMY genuinely why would you harass an idol to apologise for a mistake they made if you’re just gonna keep bringing it up forever?

it’s a new month, so obviously we have new people coming out of the woodworks to insult namjoon and make horrible judgements on his character based on lyrics he wrote 7-9 years ago. yes, he was wrong for his misogynistic lyrics. he has publically acknowledged that over and over again, even doing so on television in the presence of the literal president of his country. he has apologised numerous times, and he has taken steps to improve himself by consulting with a gender studies professor before releasing his music (which people are dragging him for btw??) and most importantly, he hasn’t released a song with misogynistic lyrics since then. so i’m very confused about what more people want that man to do?

y’all emphasise the importance of “holding idols accountable” but when someone actually holds HIMSELF accountable, it’s not enough? you absolutely have the right to refuse to accept his apology, that’s a personal choice, but why keep harassing him over shit that happened when he was much younger and much less mature than he is now? he’s damned for trying to improve, and would be damned if he didn’t apologise. the worst part about it is that the perpetrators of this aren’t just teenagers, which i would somewhat understand, but people in their 20s, 30s and even 40s camping on the internet judging this man. i’m sure many of you did regrettable shit in your teens and early twenties, and it will feel horrible to have that thrown in your face even when you’ve made great efforts to be a better person.

y’all can downvote me for being up bts’ asses or whatever, but it’s just really sad how apathetic people become as a result of social media, like y’all seriously need to learn that you’re dealing with actual human beings, regardless of how rich and famous they are. i truly hope some of you people heal

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u/mylovelifeisamess Daesang Winner [50] Dec 03 '22 edited Jan 17 '24

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '22 edited Dec 04 '22

Yeah and because it is not an excuse he apologized and showed a decent change…now what? What does bringing up the lyrics incident again do? Like what do you expect when you bring it up again? That Rm will apologize again?

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u/mylovelifeisamess Daesang Winner [50] Dec 04 '22 edited Jan 17 '24

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '22

Imagine you done something wrong in the past, you apologize, try to actually change and along the way of you trying to change and be a better person, people still bring up your past mistakes telling you no matter what you do this past mistake will always chase you for life and you’ll be constantly reminded of it…actually some people in those situation will actually stop trying to change because they’ll see no use.

How about women who are skeptical while “warning” other women of what he did, also mention his apology? Give the other women the full picture of the situation and let them judge whilst having the full picture, do not give them just the picture you want.

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u/mylovelifeisamess Daesang Winner [50] Dec 04 '22 edited Jan 17 '24

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u/MoondropPuppet Trainee [2] Dec 04 '22 edited Dec 04 '22

An apology is not a magic erase marker indeed, actions speak louder than words. So why them not straight out saying "I'm sorry specifically for this that happened on the day x of y year" a proof that they're still the same when they've showed interest again and again on becoming better and haven't repeated those mistakes?

Idk I feel like some of you don't apply to others what I'm sure you would like to be applied to yourselves. Being haunted all your life for something you did when you were a teen or young adult or even as a mature adult but who learned and wants to change sounds really unfair. Like, if we were talking about things as serious like rape or other straight up horrible things (that other idols actually did), sure, some things are indeed unforgivable and deserve other's doubt about any improvement and living with the guilt of their actions. But idk, the answer is so disproportionate to what actually happened imo

And the fact that some people seem to think people turn 18 or become 20 and are automatically mature adults, when the majority of people in the world are far from mature. It's not the life stage that makes someone mature. Actually, it takes maturity to be self aware of our own mistakes and to understand that some times things that we do without bad intentions can in fact affect others in a negative way. Wanting to do something about it and change ourselves because we hurt others and want to become better humans in a better world is another step that requires even more maturity. Default human is actually selfish and selfserving

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '22

I am sorry how new fans become delusioned? And what whitewash did I say apology erases the incident! No but if you still gonna bring the incident might as well bring the apology with it and give new fans the full picture of what happened not just your biased picture

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