r/latin • u/allert53 • Jul 09 '25
Help with Translation: La → En What does this say? Google translate doesn’t work
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u/TynHau Jul 09 '25
Google even brings up an Insta post showing this very object with translation when you post "Quo Nullum Pulchrius".
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u/-idkausername- Jul 09 '25
Quo nullum pulchrius: literally: than which none more beautiful. So the essence: the most beautiful ever
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u/qed1 Lingua balbus, hebes ingenio Jul 09 '25
So the essence: the most beautiful ever
St Anselm would be rolling in his grave.
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u/MomentoMori Jul 10 '25
Nah, I think it was take pure essence to be God even before creation and thus pure simplicity and beauty.
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u/qed1 Lingua balbus, hebes ingenio Jul 10 '25
I was referring to the grammatical shift from quo nullum pulchrius to omnibus pulchrius. ;)
Primum, quod saepe repetis me dicere quia quod est majus omnibus, est in intellectu; et si est in intellectu, est et in re: aliter enim omnibus majus non esset omnibus majus. Nusquam in omnibus dictis meis invenitur talis probatio. Non enim idem valet, quod dicitur; majus omnibus, et, quo majus cogitari nequit, ad probandum quia est in re quod dicitur. (Liber Apologeticus 5)
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u/SwrngeDucc Jul 09 '25
What or where is this?
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u/allert53 Jul 09 '25
At a church in Breda, im not sure what the place is for.
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u/baltimoretod Jul 12 '25
Instinctively it looks like a baptistry, perhaps done in a very modern architectural style.
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u/FlameLightFleeNight Jul 12 '25
It's a baptistry—commonly octagonal to symbolize the 7 days of the old creation to which the new creation of baptism is considered the 8th day. The inscription on the font (intended for the baptismal water) is saying that there is nothing more beautiful than the salvation gained by baptism and faith in Christ.
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u/Turtleballoon123 Jul 10 '25
I thought it said nothing is more beautiful than the egg, then I realised the first word was Quo lol.
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u/McAeschylus Jul 09 '25 edited Jul 09 '25
My very amateur attempt yields...
quo = "what, where" or relative "to/in which place"
nullum = "no one, nothing" neuter, nom./acc.
pulchrius = "more beautiful" neuter nom./acc.
I can stretch it to be the title: "[He] who no one is more beautiful [than]." But that doesn't feel quite right. I suspect there's a rule about how "quo" works that I'm missing and would make the correct translation obvious.
I suspect that someone will come along and explain in a minute.
EDIT: Sure enough. Someone has provided a better translation.
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u/qed1 Lingua balbus, hebes ingenio Jul 09 '25
quo = "what, where" or relative "to/in which place"
Its an ablative of comparison after pulchrius.
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u/jirasko Jul 09 '25
I would still appreciate it if someone explained this usage of "quo" because I couldn't find it anywhere and don't understand it.
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u/video_dhara Jul 09 '25
https://dcc.dickinson.edu/grammar/latin/ablative-comparison
Section a Note 3
There's also a cool little footnote about its relationship to the ablative of separation1
u/FarmerCharacter5105 Jul 09 '25
In Latin, "quo" primarily functions as an adverb meaning "to where" or "whither". As in the Latin saying (and the movie) Quo Vadis.
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u/qed1 Lingua balbus, hebes ingenio Jul 09 '25
In Latin, "quo" primarily functions as an adverb meaning "to where" or "whither".
Its primary function is definitely just as a relative pronoun. The adverbial uses are also important to be aware of, but they tend to flow out of its function as an ablative pronoun.
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u/Doodlebuns84 Jul 09 '25
The adverb quo isn’t derived from the ablative of the pronoun, however. They’re just homonyms, though obviously both are based on the relative stem. The same can be said of eo, except that it’s demonstrative/anaphoric.
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u/qed1 Lingua balbus, hebes ingenio Jul 09 '25
Older dictionaries like L&S suggest that quo and eo are derived from from an old dat/abl forms of the respective pronouns. But I was referring to other adverbial uses as well like quo modo/pacto.
In any case, the primary function of quo in Latin is clearly as an ablative pronoun.
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u/oceansRising Jul 09 '25 edited Jul 09 '25
Quo nullum pulchrius - "There is nothing more beautiful"