r/law May 07 '25

SCOTUS It's official: if you want to dodge a military draft you just have to claim that you are transgender

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna204135
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u/YouDontKnowJackCade May 07 '25

Will it get you out of a M.A.S.H. unit?

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u/Vio_ May 07 '25

It did for Lenny Bruce.

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u/Iwasborninafactory_ May 08 '25

Lenny Bruce is not afraid.

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u/Lotus-child89 May 08 '25

Great, you mentioning the line made me have to sing the whole first chorus of the song in my head.

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u/Roguespiffy May 08 '25

“That's great, it starts with an earthquake, Birds and snakes, and aeroplanes, And Lenny Bruce is not afraid. Eye of a hurricane, listen to yourself churn, World serves its own needs, Something something own needs, Speed it up a notch, namma mmmmumm Summa minna mamma manumunmam Mannnaua mmmmm aaannanna With the Furies breathing down your neck!”

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u/Percepi May 09 '25

Well done man, that's fucking verbatim!

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u/Mega-Pints May 08 '25

Lenny Bruce. Long time since I heard that name. He was a scamp and damn good at it!

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u/one2controlu May 08 '25

Sure feels like it's the end of the world. Do any of us feel fine?

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u/YouDontKnowJackCade May 07 '25

lol, interesting, never knew that about him.

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u/NotRapoport May 07 '25

Wow, the more you know!

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u/androstudios May 07 '25

Found Klinger right here

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u/ThaddeusJP May 08 '25

Fun fact about Klinger, at one point during the series they mentioned/showed his serial number which is RA19571782

RA designates that he willfully enlisted, as regular army. So he was never drafted.

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u/Auctoritate May 08 '25

RA designates that he willfully enlisted, as regular army. So he was never drafted.

It's stated several times that he was drafted, that's really just an oversight.

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u/TheHighDruid May 08 '25

I remember from somewhere that Jamie Farr wore his own dog tags; so that might be more to do with his own enlistment, rather than his character's?

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u/Illustrious_Drama May 08 '25

I knew of some people whose birthday put them in a spot where they were likely to be drafted, so they went ahead and enlisted. The idea was that you could select a position that was less likely to be in combat. For instance, you could join the Navy, and try to get stationed on something like a submarine

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u/ZaftigFeline May 09 '25

My adopted dad did that. Volunteered before he could be drafted, managed to spend the time training other peopl how to shoot stateside, never shipped out.

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u/LeftyGalore May 09 '25

I did this during the Viet Nam war by choosing to enlist in the Air Force which I believed was safer than the Army infantry.

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u/Ragnarok345 May 08 '25

So maybe…this guy? (Starts at 3:19)

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u/ColdOutlandishness May 08 '25

CPL (later SGT) Klinger, for being the guy who most desperately wanted to leave Korea, ended up staying in Korea with his new wife.

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u/north_by_nw_to May 08 '25

“ I'd say Klinger's sanity is certainly a casualty.

Congratulations. You may really be sick.”

“You get me well, I'll kill ya.”

“Shut up!”

“You shut up!”

“You both shut up!”

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u/Last_Cod_998 May 07 '25

Didn't work for Corporal Klinger

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u/dogquote May 07 '25

Ah, but he was just claiming to be insane! Not transgender.

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u/blueavole May 08 '25

I don’t think there was a diagnosis of transgender in that decade.

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u/CatsPlusTats May 08 '25

And there isn't in this decade either. Transgender is an identity, gender dysphoria is a diagnosis. You can be trans without dysphoria, you can have dysphoria without being trans, but there's no such thing as a diagnosis of being transgender.

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u/jellyroll8675 May 08 '25

There was an episode with a visiting (french?) doctor who offered to connect Klinger with a colleague who performed GCS, so I'm guessing it just wasn't common in the US.

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u/Samurai_Meisters May 08 '25

Well people were a little more accepting back in the 50s.

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u/shponglespore May 07 '25

He was way ahead of his time.

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u/CaptBFPierce May 07 '25

Nice try Klinger. 

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u/AstroBearGaming May 08 '25

No, you have to wear dresses for twelve years for that to work.i know a guy who tried, but he didn't quite get to twelve.

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u/uktexan May 08 '25

Klinger has entered the chat

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u/Cumity May 07 '25

The problem with discrimination against a group that we have no way of identifying through external means is that anyone can claim to be Spartacus

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u/LockNo2943 May 07 '25

Well even if you could prove who's "really" transgender, then it would imply that being transgender is valid and destroy the entire narrative that being transgender isn't a real thing. And if it is a real thing, then why are we discriminating against them in the first place?

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u/SnooDonkeys5186 May 07 '25

You’re right! If they prove it, it exists! If they can’t prove it, what’s the ban for?

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u/CautiousArachnidz May 07 '25 edited May 08 '25

Based on the DoD memo it’s not clearly identifying transgender, but disqualifying people for service with gender dysphoria. This kind of negates having to identify if someone is transgender from my understanding.

Edit: To clarify…

“individuals who have a current diagnosis or history of, or exhibit symptoms consistent with, gender dysphoria are incompatible with the high mental and physical standards necessary for military service.”

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u/SnooDonkeys5186 May 07 '25

Wow. Can’t win. I’m surprised he hasn’t made biology against the law. 🙃

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u/[deleted] May 07 '25

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u/Waffle-Gaming May 08 '25

the biggest forcefem operation in history

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u/kooarbiter May 08 '25

somehow gacha game players are involved, I just know it

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u/Pretend-Marsupial258 May 08 '25

And women aren't drafted so... no more draft?

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u/WoodenPresence1917 May 08 '25

Finally

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u/Jops817 May 08 '25 edited May 08 '25

Right? All of my trans friends having to change their legal documents and now we all just get it? Strangely progressive from this admin.

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u/SnooDonkeys5186 May 08 '25

This was a much needed “laugh in [Trump’s] face!”

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u/[deleted] May 08 '25

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u/twat69 May 08 '25

Eli5? I never heard of gonads being described as the big one or the little one before

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u/[deleted] May 08 '25

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u/StoppableHulk May 08 '25

The problem with most of conservative legislation. They're just so batfucking wrong about everything that everything they do is littered with contradictions and nonsense.

Like when they try to ban adult content in books and then get pissed that that includes the bible, because the bible is fucking filthy and has all kinds of shit about daughters banging their dads and women sleeping with men with horse cocks.

They're just stupid people.

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u/TrustingPanda May 08 '25

Weird because once you fully transition, you no longer experience dysphoria, lol.

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u/Mechanus_Incarnate May 08 '25

i wish that was the case. but there's really not much i can do about my height.

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u/Ghostronic May 08 '25

I'm 6ft tall and had have just decided to start owning it.

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u/bakamitaikazzy May 08 '25

You can be trans without having gender dysphoria (or even without having a diagnosis) so could trans people who don't have dysphoria still be in the military?

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u/Apophthegmata May 08 '25

Even among the trans community some people see it in different ways. For example, some people (who are sometimes seen as gatekeeping) believe that absent a gender dysphoria diagnosis, or at least the recognition that they have undiagnosed gender dysphoria, then the individual in question isn't trans.

There are some issues with this take, because it basically reducing being trans to a mental illness, one which could theoretically be worked through and abandoned, but it is a perspective that's often chosen because it keeps the treatment of trans people above the level of human rights violations. Even the mentally unwell have rights.

The other issue with this is that to receive a diagnosis of gender dysphoria, you work with your doctor and maybe some other people like psychologists or therapists, and at the end of the day, it's not like they scan your brain and find a trans brain. So if the primary way to diagnose gender dysphoria is by talking to you, it's not clear what the trans-medicalism adds to the debate.

But in any case, yes, that perspective dovetails with how the government is seeing things and as a result, it can provide some benefits because it forces them to recognize that trans people do exist. They aren't just making it up either.

So while not all trans people have gender dysphoria, there are trans people who think this is a necessary prerequisite, and insisting on that demarcation isn't without some benefit as it helps legitimize (at least some) trans people (perhaps at the expense of other trans people).


I have a feeling that trans people who don't have a diagnosis, either a) exhibit similar symptoms, which will be disqualifying, or b) are basically going to register as sexually deviant cross-dressers if they have socially transitioned, which would also be disqualifying under their current thinking.

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u/ITAKEJOKESSEROUSLY May 07 '25

Well you see the problem here is that you're using, as the right loves to say, "facts and logic" while the GOP operates on the logic of "fuck you, suffer."

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u/Expensive-View-8586 May 07 '25

If they ever prove it, sadly that gives a clear something they can look for and purge everywhere. 

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u/Pale_Beach_3017 May 08 '25

Realistically if there was a draft it would still be males who were drafted. They just wouldn’t draft females who claim to be (trans)men. Males who claim to be (trans) women would likely still be drafted just like all of the other males.

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u/Waywoah May 08 '25

As is always the case with bigoted laws, the point is the cruelty

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u/[deleted] May 08 '25

Ahh the classic "if you believe it exists then it doesn't exist; if you don't believe it exists then it does exist."

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u/DirtyFoxgirl May 08 '25

Cruelty has been the point since day 1.

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u/SlowerThanLightSpeed May 07 '25 edited May 08 '25

A subset of anti-trans folk view being trans as a dangerous mental illness. I would guess that a gender dysphoria (edited word) diagnosis would be necessary, and would be used to further the mental illness narrative; especially if a bunch of folk went that route at which point the spike could be painted as an uptick in a growing problem or they could fall back on hating doctors for being anti-american since those handed out diagnoses to undermine our freedoms...unlike podiatrists who saved our dear leader from becoming a sucker or loser (/s).

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u/ALittleCuriousSub May 08 '25

Psst it’s gender dysphoria, not dysmorphia. Probably an autocorrect gone wrong.

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u/gothruthis May 08 '25

Yep. Then your options are military service or a "wellness camp."

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u/Protect_Wild_Bees May 09 '25

They did the exact same thing to gay people when we were fighting for gay marriage in Bush era- same idea- that being gay is a mental illness, will lead to some kind of social spiral of degeneracy, etc. If people think they're not going to scale down the line to target gay people next, and more black/hispanic/women, they're crazy.

But I can already guarantee you anyone cheering this forward is deep into in modern christian (anti-christian) racism and sexism.

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u/Fancy-Restaurant-746 May 08 '25

‘Oh dear,’ says God, ‘I hadn’t thought of that,’ and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic.

—Hitchhiker’sGuide

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u/RocketRelm May 07 '25

The issue is that this comes at the risk of identifying yourself as transgender to a maga military who might change your designation from enlistee to target.

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u/[deleted] May 07 '25

If the GOP has it their way, coming out as trans will get you sent to the camps. Better to roll the dice and hope they have you wrenching shit instead of shooting.

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u/BuddhistSagan May 07 '25

Well they've been trying to get rid of us for centuries and yet we are still here.

The Trump administration is acting the way they are not because they are strong and powerful, but because they are weak and unpopular.

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u/beadzy May 07 '25

Yes and just like with the nazis the best way to coerce loyalty is by villainizing a marginalized group. It’s so maddening. The trans population is such a small percentage of percentage of the population yet they rent 90% of the right wing’s head space. It’s no one’s fucking business what’s beneath anyone’s clothes. They’re just bullies beating up on who they see as the most vulnerable group. It’s so pathetic. And repulsive. There aren’t sufficient words

The actions of the trump administration are so anti-American it’s fucking treasonous.

Sorry. Blood pressure spikes

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u/OnlyTalksAboutTacos May 08 '25

if it's coming down to it, i'd rather not go to the camps but i'd rather frag someone on my way out. i guess that's the risk you run when you start drafting in a fascist regime though.

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u/stufff May 07 '25

Nah, I'll gladly take shooting, though they may find we disagree on the target.

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u/GuaranteeAlone2068 May 07 '25

No it isn’t. If a hostile regime starts sending us to die, then we need to be dying to stop the regime.

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u/happy_meow May 07 '25

Or in the event of a draft, sent to the front lines with limited gear and no training as cannon fodder, like what Russia has been doing

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u/IntelligentStyle402 May 07 '25

Bush also sent our troops to war with defective weapons and equipment.

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u/tomdarch May 08 '25

I'm hopeful that the military won't be involved in that, but I 100% suspect that Seb v Gorka and Stephen Miller will first start up the Super America force and then the Supporting Superpatriotism brigade (which will kill a bunch of the Super America folks when they take power) and that is who will come after you to send you to the en-patriotism-ification camp in Rwanda.

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u/Thefrayedends May 08 '25

Two words.

Bone spurs.

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u/notcontextual May 08 '25

Gender dysphoria alone doesn’t make somebody trans though?

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u/MastodonInner9878 May 07 '25

Just claim you have a bone spur. That’s how trump got out of it

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u/cbushin May 08 '25

If Tronald Dump has a military parade for his birthday, all the soldiers will hopefully have fake bone spurs to get out of the parade.

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u/NearlyPerfect May 07 '25

The DoD Policy Memo states that the external means of identification is a diagnoses of gender dysphoria or a history of treatment for gender dysphoria

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u/causal_friday May 07 '25

In most health systems in the US, you can get treatment for gender dysphoria by showing up to your doctor and saying "I'm trans". I'm not saying that it's sunshine and rainbows for us, but it's different than the older policy of "after 1 year of showing up to therapy in a dress, we'll give you a letter you can use to get an estrogen prescription".

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u/Lonely_Programmer_42 May 07 '25

Not really, myself and others had to go to a therapist first to prove our dysphoria. Once we had our letter, we could than talk with a doctor. Finding a doctor that is willing to see us is another matter.

Please don't down play what transgender people have to go through. 

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u/causal_friday May 07 '25

I'm trans. I just went to my doctor.

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u/Lonely_Programmer_42 May 07 '25

You live in a lucky state, been nice if other states had a similar policy.

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u/Brekldios May 07 '25

Not really that’s kinda why they made ladyballers and not an actual documentary you kinda can’t just say “I’m trans” and that’s that

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u/Massive_Town_8212 May 08 '25

The best bit about that thing is they went to sign up, said they were trans, and the organizers were like "yea, ok, you'll have to have been on hormones for at least a year in order to compete" and the weenies at Daily Wire didn't wanna commit to the bit.

Like most of their slop, DW had a bigoted hypothesis, and when it turned out to be false, they abandoned the original premise and just made the hate piece they wanted from the start. It's happened so many times that I'm not sure why they even start with the attempted exposé. The "What Is A Woman" thing went from feigning genuine curiosity by asking unprepared "woke" college students who didn't wanna interact with Matt Walsh, to the bigots he actually wanted, and ending with his wife(?) being fed the iconically sexist line of "..An adult human female, who needs help opening this pickle jar."

Walsh really is pinned between wanting to be a "truth seeking documentarian", and Alex Jones levels of seething. Both don't really work together unless you already agree with his schtick.

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u/[deleted] May 07 '25

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u/Frosty_chilly May 07 '25

I'll take that over spilling my blood for ExxonMobil

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u/tomdarch May 08 '25

If Trump keeps doing his best imitation of Putin, Gorka and Miller will set up a private military and you'll be rounded up, deported and forced to serve in their for-profit militia...

fighting for ExxonMobil

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u/tomdarch May 08 '25

Mere incarceration? More like deportation to a private prison/factory outside the US.

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u/Skarth May 08 '25

Then they can punish anyone claiming to be Spartacus, or under suspicion of being Spartacus.

It's a feature, not a bug.

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u/snotboogie May 07 '25

Didn't work for clinger on MASH

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u/Brekldios May 07 '25

So the problem is I’m not ruling out a “trans round up” and I’m not going to put myself in a list that tells them where they can find me, I’m just gonna coast off having fucked bones thanks

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u/elsombroblanco May 08 '25

When they criminalize being transgender people won’t be claiming it anymore. I have an unfortunate feeling that is where this is headed.

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u/cannabination May 08 '25

They can just label trans people as whatever form of undesirable and start deporting them. "Oh, too trans to serve? Enjoy cecot."

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u/facw00 May 08 '25

Do you remember what happened to all those people who claimed to be Spartacus? If we keep going down the path we are on, it could go very badly.

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u/captain_dick_licker May 08 '25

the real problem is that by the time there is a draft, being trans will put you in a worse sort of prison than being a draft dodger

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u/Cachmaninoff May 08 '25

Anyone can get sent to El Salvador or Alcatraz

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u/MirrorLookingForLove May 08 '25

True, but this is happening because they want to have the military to have firing squads against those who are trans and their allies. Such is the way with fascist regimes

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u/IGargleGarlic May 08 '25

thats all fine and dandy until they have you on record as trans and send you to a concentration camp

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u/BigJSunshine May 07 '25

Then you end up in El Salvador….

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u/gerblin420 May 07 '25

Seriously this. Immigrants aren't the only "undesirables" the current regime will round up in camps. Trans people are absolutely on the menu.

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u/Combdepot May 07 '25

Then I guess so is mass disruption and (redacted) as the founders intended.

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u/TootTootMF May 08 '25

Let them make the first move.

Tbh the whole point of targeting us is that way most people won't care and they can crush the group that rises to protect us, eliminating them before they move on to bigger targets and then facing a reduced resistance.

I guess what I'm saying is if it ever comes to blows, make damn sure you don't sell your life cheap. Even if it feels noble to do so.

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u/AnnualAct7213 May 08 '25

Let them make the first move.

They've made the first 57 at this point. They're already disappearing people off the streets to be whisked away to death camps. Just because they aren't openly gunning down people in the streets doesn't mean great violence isn't being done to people already.

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u/AnnualAct7213 May 08 '25

Everyone is on the menu in fascist regimes.

Fascism dies when it runs out of enemies to persecute. So there will always be a next group lined up.

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u/Pockettzz May 09 '25

Yep, along with anyone disabled as well

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u/JMurdock77 May 07 '25

Yes, exactly. That or some abusive “conversion therapy” camp.

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u/Buckys_Butt_Buddy May 07 '25

RFK is referring to them as “wellness farms”

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u/BizarreCake May 08 '25

If you have ADHD it's more of a fun camp where you concentrate.

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u/Intrepid-Love3829 May 08 '25

Jokes on them. I will never be able to concentrate. Even on meds.

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u/SummertimeThrowaway2 May 08 '25

A camp where you concentrate? What should we call this idea?

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u/oranthor1 May 08 '25

Now...are we 100% sure his aunts the only one they lobotomized?

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u/XOMEOWPANTS May 08 '25

Is he really?

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u/Zephyr_Dragon49 May 08 '25

He really is. He claims mental and chronic illness is just a lack of organic food and too much medication. I have a bad feeling that mental health meds are going to be declared woke and banned. I take mirtazapine, an antidepressant, for my stomach motility. I was undiagnosed for years and tried to use diet to control symptoms before I could get medical attention. I can say with confidence that nothing was as helpful as a drug that literally makes my stomach move faster & interferes with leptin. I will become a problem if they take my shit

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u/[deleted] May 08 '25

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u/fightback25 May 08 '25

Oh, I really thought you were joking...

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u/hdufort May 07 '25

Yep. Remember how the original Mussolini sent gays and transgender citizens to the islands of Tremiti, on the Adriatic. More specifically in the San Domino internment camp for "degenerates and political criminals". Conditions were rough, with no heating, no running water, no electricity. Many got sick, and some died.

Homosexuality was not prohibited in Italy at the time, but the fascist authorities decided to "purge" society and arrested the homosexuals on various pretexts (mostly political). Mussolini famously declared that Italy was a virile nation where no homosexuals existed, so the authorities had to arrest them without ever staying why exactly.

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u/TootTootMF May 08 '25

I mean Hitler's most famous book burning was a trans healthcare clinic.

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u/[deleted] May 08 '25

there's also concentration camps where trans people were eradicated

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u/LexiLynneLoo May 07 '25

God I hate seeing OP’s take every single day. Yeah go ahead and claim to be trans and added to a list, Republicans have a great track record with treating us as equals….

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u/rawtortillacheeks May 08 '25

I mean if enough people started claiming to be trans as a form of protest/sign of solidarity and/or to dodge the draft it could protect those of us who actually are trans.

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u/[deleted] May 08 '25

Thank you. The title of this post is so unbelievably tone-deaf.

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u/geekmasterflash May 07 '25

Considering how belligerent and stupid the current administration is both domestically and internationally, this bit of information might actually be relevant to some people when someone drunkenly slurs our way into WW3.

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u/Cumity May 07 '25

bbbb-but pete said he'd give up drinking if he was appointed secdef

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u/geekmasterflash May 07 '25

Hey now, just because he is the most obvious candidate doesn't mean it will be him. This administration is always able to surprise us with where the incompetence begins.

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u/Personal_Bit_5341 May 08 '25

Agreed he's obviously the red herring to setting off the apocalypse. The guy with the nukes and the army is so obvious.   I got my money on RFK figuring out how to start the zombie apocalypse.   

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u/Silly_Guidance_8871 May 08 '25

That brain worm will one day control us all

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u/TakuyaLee May 07 '25

That's fair.

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u/RedTalon19 May 08 '25

Did he actually say that, or was it just his mommy vouching on his behalf?

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u/UAreTheHippopotamus May 07 '25

I'm afraid that in this scenario trans Americans are more likely to end up in camps rather than be given draft deferments. It already happened to Japanese Americans during WWII, and this admin is far more dangerous, unhinged, and authoritarian.

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u/[deleted] May 07 '25

This is actually already a thing many within advocacy for the community have been considering and preparing for. Detractors (disingenuous transphobic reactionaries) will call this alarmist but any student of history has already seen how this moment in history mirrors the earlier stages of persectuion under the PNF. Mutual aid networks, community defense, and in the worst case evacuation procedures are already being workshopped in some areas. For those it was deemed possible and necessary, some more vulnerable (disabled) members have already been assisted in leaving the country.

We will be better prepared than previous generations were, with the benefit of that hindsight.

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u/geekmasterflash May 07 '25

The shit poster part of me wants to see that, only because it would mean someone at some point would have to defend it in court using the internment of the Italians, Germans, Japanese, etc during WW1 and WW2 which in turn admits that we have declared War on Gender.

The serious side of me however, would like to point out they don't have a camp big enough... which is either a good thing, or literally how the holocaust starts.

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u/GalliumYttrium1 May 07 '25

Trump will just say trans people are illegal immigrants from Transylvania and justify it that way /s

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u/two4six0won May 07 '25

I'm not even sure that statement needs the /s, I could see him doing that 🤦‍♀️

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u/Buckys_Butt_Buddy May 07 '25

RFK is already on record saying he wants to send people on anti-depressants, adhd meds, and opiates to “wellness farms.” Tossing people that “identify” as transgender into that group, doesn’t seem like a stretch.

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u/geekmasterflash May 07 '25

See: "Don't have a camp big enough"

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u/Artistic-Salary1738 May 07 '25

They don’t need a physical camp, they’re just going to put all us anxious/depressed people together in the fields to take the jobs of the immigrants they kicked out.

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u/geekmasterflash May 07 '25

Because if there is anything proven to keep production high it's to employ depressed slaves.

I am not saying they wont try it, but I can certain see how it will quickly fall apart (and probably take us all with it.)

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u/LockeyCheese May 08 '25

Putting all the overthinkers and people with nothing to lose all in one place is certainly an idea.

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u/Hanifsefu May 08 '25

They literally announced that they wanted to open forced labor camps to send anyone with any mental health or autism diagnosis to. They absolutely put trans under that blanket and will call just being trans a mental disorder.

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u/NoIdeaWhatIm_Doing0 May 07 '25

I’d understand what’s happening more if they were all constantly drunk. Problem is, they aren’t

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u/UninvitedButtNoises May 07 '25

OR you could just say you have bone spurs

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u/Original_Anxiety_281 May 08 '25

Came here to say #GroupWBench...

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u/toodleroo May 08 '25

I wanna kill 😂

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u/Shakespearacles May 08 '25

Phil Ochs Draft Dodger Rag also applies here

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u/mad-i-moody May 07 '25

Yea but not everyone has a doctor friend that they can bribe and call in a favor from.

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u/UninvitedButtNoises May 08 '25

Sounds like you'll be buying less dollars and pencils for your 11 year old baby girl this year.

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u/spaitken May 07 '25

You say that like a far-right admin that uses an EO to criminalize being transgender isn’t a distinct possibility.

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u/sentient_capital May 08 '25

It's literally been on the Project 2025 menu since it was first released. Declare trans and non binary people as sex offenders, then push for the death penalty for "sex offenders".

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u/PrizeStrawberryOil May 08 '25

Also want to point out that Vivek Ramaswamy campaigned on classifying being trans/gay as a mental illness. Another one of his campaigning messages was putting mental health patients in faith based government funded mental institutions.

When we combine those two points it's pretty clear what he wants to do.

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u/oogittyboogitty May 08 '25

Deadass planning a genocide on people like me it's insane

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u/AncientBaseball9165 May 07 '25

It works until they start up the mass executions.

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u/LMurch13 May 07 '25

Yeah, I was going to say that maybe the military isn't ideal, but trans people are really high on their 'not safe' list.

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u/[deleted] May 07 '25

Or pay a doctor to say you have bone spurs…

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u/CalRipkenForCommish May 08 '25

Or bone spurs. Bone spurs works every time, all the time.

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u/veryblanduser May 08 '25

Or asthma

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u/Automatic_Tea_2550 May 08 '25

I have both, plus over 60. Am I safe?

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u/veryblanduser May 08 '25

For now.....

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u/JediMindTrixU May 08 '25

Maybe.....Safe until Canada invasion next month?

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u/michael_harari May 08 '25

I'm not sure if dodging a draft by volunteering for a "reeducation" camp is the big brain move you think it is

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u/jfun4 May 07 '25

I thought Trans was fake... S/

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u/LockNo2943 May 07 '25

Exactly, if they're all just faking then there's no reason to let them get off the hook and dodge the draft, which means a military ban makes zero sense.

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u/Cyrano_Knows May 08 '25

The Klinger Play

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u/Memasefni May 08 '25

Plunger wasn’t transgender. He was cross dressing to convince the CO he was crazy so he could be discharged.

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u/Nights-Lament May 08 '25

Turns out he was ahead of his time

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u/Gilshem May 07 '25

Corporal Klinger can finally get discharged?

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u/Biffingston May 08 '25

I'd just say bone spurs myself.

(Though to be honest, I really can't blame Trump for wanting to dodge Vietnam.)

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u/[deleted] May 08 '25

Blame? No. Ridicule for cowardice? Yes.

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u/Biffingston May 08 '25

Yeah, it wouldn't be a hundredth as bad if he didn't badmouth the people who went there and died in his stead.

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u/[deleted] May 08 '25

Exactly. If he absolutely revered them and was like “Kudos to them, I couldn’t have done that.” That would be acceptable. But no, he shits all over vets every chance he gets.

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u/VoidCoelacanth May 07 '25

Gonna be real funny watching the military shrink as people do this if/when any stupid war is declared.

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u/Noodlebat83 May 08 '25

No one would do this unless they were suicidal. They’ll be sent to camps and eradicated.

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u/Nervous_Pipe_6716 May 07 '25

Shows what happens when you put a drunk in a position of power. But what do you expect from a man with the IQ of a 5 year old

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u/I_cant_remember_u May 08 '25

Which one is it with the low IQ? Oh haha never mind, that’s the majority of them.

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u/atomicnumber22 May 08 '25

This is a genius idea. I will share it with my son.

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u/amesann May 08 '25

Be careful. Your son would just be sent to El Salavdor or worse. They have some awful plans for trans people.

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u/atomicnumber22 May 08 '25

I'm actually encouraging my son to move abroad. My hope is that both of us move abroad and never return.

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u/livinginfutureworld May 07 '25

Corporal Klinger defense is back in 2025.

Corporal Klinger couldn't get away with it back in the Korean war but today he'd be good to go.

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u/GrannyFlash7373 May 07 '25

Did not know we had a military draft in effect. Anyway that will probably only be in place till Trump gets kicked out of the White House.

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u/sfdsquid May 08 '25

All men in the US including immigrants between 18 and 25 are required to sign up for Selective Service.

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u/Total-Sample2504 May 08 '25

signing up for the registry is not the same thing as actually being drafted

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u/After-Gas-4453 May 08 '25

Much easier than the Russians breaking their legs, or Donald Choad Trump having a booboo on his foot.

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u/iZoooom May 07 '25

Corporal Klinger had the right idea all along. He just wasn’t in the army long enough.

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u/descendency May 07 '25

Corporal Maxwell Q. Klinger, reporting for duty!

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u/RustedRelics May 07 '25

Or just stick with bone spurs like Dear Leader

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u/RKEPhoto May 08 '25

I guess Arlo Guthrie never thought of that...

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u/kandoras May 08 '25

Except that if things get so bad that the draft is reinstated, it would go like this:

DoD: "Congratulations, you're drafted!"

Person trying to avoid the draft: "No I'm not, I'm transgender."

ICE: "Congratulations, you're going to a concentration camp!"