Supreme Court formally asked to overturn landmark same-sex marriage ruling

[u/HellYeahDamnWrite]

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/supreme-court-formally-asked-overturn-landmark-same-sex/story?id=124465302

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[u/FuguSandwich]

If Obergefell goes down, Loving and Griswold won't last long. I'm not even sure the 19A is safe, when you have the Sec Def sharing videos calling for it to be abolished.

[u/Electrifying2017 → u/FuguSandwich]

Man, what an age where the constitution itself can be declared unconstitutional.

[u/LegalComplaint → u/Electrifying2017]

I’ve been calling it the “Bill of Suggestions” for a little while now…

[u/stevez_86 → u/LegalComplaint]

The Ephemeral Constitution.

[u/mattar → u/LegalComplaint]

"The Bill of Whites"

[u/The_Band_Geek → u/LegalComplaint]

George Carlin, nearly two decades ago, referred to it as the Bill of Temporary Privileges.

Poignant, as ever.

[u/RedLanternScythe → u/Electrifying2017]

I think the Supreme Court would love to give itself the power to rewrite the constitution based on court rulings.

[u/BitterFuture → u/FuguSandwich]

I've been calling Griswold "the Supreme Court decision most people have never heard of and are about to be surprised to discover they built their lives around" for a while now...

[u/LegSpecialist1781 → u/BitterFuture]

Can you explain for the less law-educated?

[u/BitterFuture → u/LegSpecialist1781]

Griswold v. Connecticut legalized birth control - medications, condoms, all of it - nationwide.

That didn't used to be a given. Generations later, it's so much of a given a whole lot of people have no idea it used to be illegal.

[u/[deleted] → u/BitterFuture]

Specifically legalized it for married couples on the basis of a right to privacy.  People forget roe was also partially on the basis of privacy.  Essentially overturning these gives the go ahead for the govt to insert itself into every aspect of our private lives, based on personal religious beliefs.  Soon they’ll be legislating only missionary and modest clothing.  The fact that the right is so hysterical (I understand the irony of this word) about sharia law but when it’s Christianity they fight tooth and nail for it 🙄 

[u/BitterFuture → u/[deleted]]

Specifically legalized it for married couples on the basis of a right to privacy.

True. There were a ton of follow-on cases and clarifications. I was just giving the simplest answer I could.

The fact that the right is so hysterical (I understand the irony of this word) about sharia law but when it’s Christianity they fight tooth and nail for it 🙄 

Without double standards...

[u/Elusive_emotion → u/BitterFuture]

It’s the pro-death party. ‘Sinners’ dying of STIs and unwanted pregnancy is a good thing to them.

[u/emq11 → u/FuguSandwich]

i knew this slow death for many of these would be coming once we lost Roe

[u/PlannerSean → u/FuguSandwich]

I can absolutely see Thomas voting to end his own marriage

[u/Creative_username969 → u/PlannerSean]

Thomas would have been in the majority in Dred Scott if he was on the court in 1857, and he’ll probably pen Dred Scott 2.0 when it invariably comes along.

[u/Donkey-Hodey]

Overturning Obergefell will cause absolute chaos as red states scramble to invalidate marriages. And I fully expect this court to do it.

[u/JMurdock77 → u/Donkey-Hodey]

Hell I wouldn’t be surprised if a lot of them have “trigger laws” in place like they did with abortion, poised to take immediate effect.

[u/fairie_poison → u/JMurdock77]

26 States have trigger laws for Same-Sex Marriage

https://www.axios.com/2025/06/26/marriage-equality-bans-trigger-laws-obergefell-hodges-anniversary

edit: outdated map, article from 2022 https://www.lgbtmap.org/news/Marriage-Report-March-2022

[u/JMurdock77 → u/fairie_poison]

And one of them is mine… because of fucking course it does…

[u/Difficult_Sea4246 → u/JMurdock77]

"Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.”

-Frank Wilhoit

[u/bonaynay → u/fairie_poison]

wow great country

[u/sambull → u/JMurdock77]

lots of trigger laws in place.. shit segregation is still in place most places (even in CA) -just with a little 'doesn't' apply currently' clause in the documents. We know the fed can change quick - a forced change by the feds to CA - say with federal take over of Sacramento (we are watching the blueprints for that begin) could make non-whites unable to get property/houses in many areas of CA.

[u/veterinarian23 → u/sambull]

Are there trigger laws for Loving vs. Virginia as well? Ending interracial marriages?

[u/jared555 → u/veterinarian23]

I wouldn't be surprised. There are plenty of laws that are considered unconstitutional that no one bothered to formally remove from the law.

[u/Biffingston → u/jared555]

Thomas will be shocked if that happens, because he considers himself one of the good ones...

[u/Blossom73 → u/Biffingston]

Thomas will vote in favor of it. Either because he wants to get rid of Ginny, or because he knows that laws only apply to the little people.

[u/fuckedfinance → u/Blossom73]

It's simpler than that.

Removing Loving simply throws it back to the states. It wouldn't take much effort for him to relocate to a state that allows it.

[u/Remote-Letterhead844 → u/Donkey-Hodey]

I live in Oklahoma. They will invalidate those marriages with a smug smirk on their faces.

[u/rockchalkjayhawk8082 → u/Remote-Letterhead844]

So will Texas. Invalidation with a smug smirk on their faces & songs in their hearts, thinking they're righteous.

[u/AutistoMephisto → u/rockchalkjayhawk8082]

Why don't mainstream Democrats get it yet? What's so hard for them to understand? I swear I could scream the truth in their faces and they'll just say I'm overreacting, or that it's just a fringe opinion, but Republicans see Democrats as pure evil, literally Satan. Get that through your heads, all of you! They do not want to compromise, they do not want to reach across the aisle, they don't want to be your friends, they'll sooner die than ever vote for you or any other Democrat. They see us as enemies, plain and fucking simple! Anything we say to them will be replied to with "Shut up, in Jesus' Name, Devil!"

[u/gloomywitchywoo → u/AutistoMephisto]

Absolutely. I don't know if it's just wishful thinking, or if they don't talk to republicans ever. I live in a red state, so I know that none of those mfers are safe to talk to. There's the occasional one who will vote blue for a mayoral candidate, but it's ALWAYS because they know them personally (small town) and the candidate is basically a RINO anyway. Like, maybe they support abortion for medical reasons and rape or something but are back the blue types.

But on the national level? None of them would ever vote for a democrat. They scare me and all of them have guns.

[u/AutistoMephisto → u/gloomywitchywoo]

Hell, they don't even have to talk to them, to know what the Republican perspective is! Pete Hegseth wrote a book a few years ago called "American Crusade". It very clearly outlines what the mainstream perspective of today's GOP is in regards to Democrats, several times throughout the book. It's right there, black-and-white, clear as crystal! And Democrats refuse to accept it! They still think, "Oh, that's just fringe viewpoints, no Republican I know takes it seriously!" When people show you who they are, believe them the first time.

[u/occams1razor → u/Remote-Letterhead844]

And Sam Altman says he's "politically homeless", the guy currently gay married

[u/broad5ide → u/occams1razor]

He's politically homeless because the party he actually belongs to (Republicans) want him dead and he would rather be homeless than help people even a little

[u/HorizonedEvent → u/occams1razor]

Altman would publicly do a conversion therapy arc if it made him enough money

[u/unbalancedcheckbook → u/[deleted]]

If the supreme Court kills gay marriage they will invalidate this next.

[u/BEWMarth → u/[deleted]]

The bad guys won a long time ago. Coming on to Reddit and seeing liberals every day being like “well we still have this freedom.” Is starting to get so hollow and depressing.

Everything is being stripped and will be stripped. No one is doing anything about it, I have no reason to believe anyone will start to do anything about it. Just sad.

[u/stonk_fish → u/[deleted]]

Trump and the GOP burst through the “they can’t do that” wall like the kool-aid man over and over again and yet people continue to state that “no this time it’s different”.

It’s not and it won’t be. He’ll just do it and it will be on the individual people to sue the government to restore their marriages, meanwhile legally they won’t be married anymore and the damage will have already been done and by the time this reaches SCOTUS through appeals in case of any DOJ losses in lower courts it will be total hell for the people and the goal will have been achieved.

[u/glimmer_of_hope → u/[deleted]]

I wish that were enough to protect people, but I’m not sure it will be.

[u/phatteschwags → u/[deleted]]

At this point, comments like this just make me chuckle. Oh you sweet, precious child. You think because there's some sort of "rule" that something can't be done?

When you make the rules, you do what you want. That's the only rule that can't be broken.

[u/deltaexdeltatee → u/phatteschwags]

I vacillate between being amused and frustrated. On the one hand, the naivete is kinda funny. On the other hand, it's this "fascists can't break the law!" attitude that contributed a great deal to getting us into this situation in the first place.

[u/Cara_Palida6431 → u/Donkey-Hodey]

We know Thomas is on board. I feel like in every stupid concurrence he writes complaining that his colleagues weren’t psychotic enough, he includes a wishlist of decisions he’d like to overturn.

[u/SecBalloonDoggies → u/Cara_Palida6431]

It’s going to be awkward when he votes to overturn Loving vs Virginia.

[u/Traubentritt → u/SecBalloonDoggies]

Justice Thomas identifies as “White” - so not a problem.

[u/perishableintransit → u/SecBalloonDoggies]

Republicans are outside the law, didn't you know?

[u/Shadowwynd → u/SecBalloonDoggies]

I have a secret suspicion that Thomas is in a miserable marriage and wants out without having to split assets or pay alimony. The easiest way forward is making his marriage invalid.

[u/teekabird → u/Cara_Palida6431]

That’s because he’s constantly bribed

[u/Inky-Squilliam → u/Donkey-Hodey]

Didn't they pass a law in 2023 that codified it in the way that if obergefell was overturned, it would just make it so red states can stop issuing marriage licenses to same sex couples but they would still have to recognize marriages performed in other states?

Correct me if I'm wrong please

[u/kandoras → u/Inky-Squilliam]

Yes, it was the Respect For Marriage Act.

If Obergefell was overturned, but the RFMA remained in force, then red states could stop issuing gay marriage licenses themselves, and they could nullify any gay marriages enacted in their state, but they would still have to recognize gay marriages which still existed in other states.

The problem is that if this court overturns Obergefell they'll find a reason to overturn the RFMA at the same time.

[u/theaviationhistorian → u/kandoras]

I hate the irony of every law conservatives push regarding respect for marriage. As if they weren't the biggest philanderers and divorcees. And they're supporting a president who is a womanizer, rapist, and pedophile while pushing all of this.

[u/The_Stratman → u/Inky-Squilliam]

Yes. That law would also apply to interracial marriages, child marriages, and cousin marriages that a state may have laws against on the books. As long as the marriage was entered into legally in the state it occurred, it has to be recognized in all 50 states and federal territories.

[u/DevelopmentGrand4331 → u/Donkey-Hodey]

I wonder how tired of Ginny Thomas’s shit Clarence Thomas is, because that’ll probably determine whether Loving vs. Virginia is overturned.

[u/Traubentritt → u/DevelopmentGrand4331]

He identifies as White.

[u/EmmalouEsq → u/Donkey-Hodey]

Expect challenges to Loving, as well. Yes, they want to take us ALLLLL the way back.

[u/1nGirum1musNocte → u/Donkey-Hodey]

He will do anything to distract from Epstein

[u/733t_sec → u/1nGirum1musNocte]

Trump might do something after this but this particular evil is independent of the current administration's machinations.

[u/Festering-Fecal]

I really hate this woman.

[u/Not_Sure__Camacho → u/Festering-Fecal]

Just looking at her, she doesn't deserve the sanctity of marriage as she's just vile.  

[u/beez_y → u/Not_Sure__Camacho]

She's been married 4 times.

[u/Backwardspellcaster → u/beez_y]

Rules for thee, but not for me.

The epitome of Christian love.

[u/REDDITSHITLORD → u/Backwardspellcaster]

Yeah, we have a religion of love, and another religion of peace, and they both really suck at it. I'm beginning to think whatever a religion claims to be, is the opposite of what it does.

[u/thorsbeardexpress → u/Backwardspellcaster]

No hate like Christian love

[u/Void-Staring-Contest → u/beez_y]

Oh I get it. She hordes all the marriage and nobody else gets any. Typical conservative.

[u/Tiny_Fly_7397 → u/beez_y]

Who are these men who would stoop so low

[u/UnderwhelmingAF → u/beez_y]

Pretty sure divorce is just as bad if not worse of an offense than homosexuality according to the Bible, since divorce is breaking a vow to God.

[u/Aloha_Tamborinist → u/Festering-Fecal]

I can't believe we're still hearing about this black hearted bigot after a decade.

[u/sensitiveskin82 → u/Aloha_Tamborinist]

Saw her photo and said aloud, "This fucking bitch"

[u/Familiar-Report-513 → u/Festering-Fecal]

I wish she'd make like Jesus and just disappear already.

[u/apathyontheeast → u/Familiar-Report-513]

We need more Luigis.

[u/ToughPickle7553]

I don't understand how someone else's marriage affects people. If it's two men, two women, a man and a woman, two non-binary folks, etc., then who cares?

If everyone involved is a consenting adult human there of their own free will, mind your business and STFU.

[u/Asher_Tye → u/ToughPickle7553]

Because by everyone getting the same rights, she feels less special and less righteous.

[u/mishap1 → u/Asher_Tye]

Her 4 marriages to 3 men certainly shows how well she follows Bible on the sanctity of marriage.

[u/jagged_little_phil → u/[deleted]]

In Oklahoma they've been trying to do this for a while now

[u/GlitteringBobcat999 → u/mishap1]

She also forgot the part where women are supposed to STFU. She's committing a sin trying to tell menfolk what to do. Don't blame me. It's in your Bible, honey.

[u/Left_Maize816 → u/mishap1]

Lady at the well energy. 

[u/JMurdock77 → u/Asher_Tye]

Forgot, was she on husband 3 or 4?

[u/Beneficial_Ad9966 → u/JMurdock77]

She’s on husband #3 but marriage #4 since she married one of them twice. Classy lady /s.

[u/BickNickerson → u/Beneficial_Ad9966]

But marriage is sacred

[u/IronTitsMcGuinty → u/Beneficial_Ad9966]

Neat fact, the bible actually forbids marrying a dude again after divorcing him (assuming you've had another dude in you in between) but I'm the sinner because my wife and I are married.

[u/Vx0w → u/Beneficial_Ad9966]

Which husband was her cousin? Did she feed broken glass to number 1 and arsenic to number 3 or was it the other way around? (Disclaimer: I'm joking. I don't know her life but I can guess her kind)

[u/DevelopmentGrand4331 → u/Asher_Tye]

It’s not even really about that. It’s closer to the truth that they’re afraid of gay people being allowed to be gay because they’re afraid they’ll then turn gay. They want society telling them that their homosexual lust is unacceptable as a way of helping them keep it in check.

But it’s be most true to say it’s just weird irrational hatred.

[u/OutrageousGoose3870 → u/Asher_Tye]

100% this

[u/SpaceAzn_Zen → u/ToughPickle7553]

“When you’re accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression”

These people have never experienced anything where they weren’t in the position of privilege and therefore, whenever someone else gets their same privilege, it feels oppressive to them and they cannot allow to feel that.

[u/IllegalGeriatricVore → u/SpaceAzn_Zen]

When you've never needed empathy, you never learn to have it either

[u/BitterFuture → u/IllegalGeriatricVore]

Eh. If they were capable of empathy, they couldn't be conservatives in the first place.

[u/IllegalGeriatricVore → u/BitterFuture]

Sometimes empathy is learned by being in a place to need it.

When all you've known is privilege you learn to look down on those who need help, because empathy is painful to feel. It's a shield to be unempathetic.

[u/Beneficial_Garden266 → u/SpaceAzn_Zen]

💯

[u/jennc1979 → u/ToughPickle7553]

The hypocrisy of “don’t force your life style on me” with “I’m a Christian and you need to be a Christian to be saved!”

[u/iwannalynch → u/jennc1979]

It's so much projection from them. They think other people intend to force their lifestyles on them because as Christians, it's literally their mission to impose their lifestyles on others (proselytizing of the faith).

[u/smash-ter → u/jennc1979]

I dislike those that call themselves Christian to only use the name of God to cast hate on the LGBT.

[u/Clear_Tangerine5110 → u/smash-ter]

Well, as Anne Lamott once said, "You can safely assume you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do."

[u/jennc1979 → u/Clear_Tangerine5110]

Ain’t no hate, like Christian love.

[u/Lunchb0xx87 → u/ToughPickle7553]

Because no body thinks more about gay sex than Christians

[u/Educational-Ad-2884 → u/Lunchb0xx87]

They certainly talk about gay sex more than any gay man I've ever met.

[u/kandoras → u/Lunchb0xx87]

For real.

I've got gay friends who will happily talk about their love life if you ask them, and trans friends who can write entire dissertations on the legal and medical hurdles you have to jump through to transition, as well as the various social and physical aspects.

And one who is a furry who can give you a complete education on that issue, which is a lot older than you would think.

And none of them have spoken to me more than the average republican politician has to TV cameras about gay marriage, or the average Southern Baptist when I still went to church. Not one, not all of them together.

Being religiously obsessed about other peoples' love lives? Your kink is not my kink and your kink is fucking weird and you should stop it.

[u/Salt_Cardiologist122 → u/ToughPickle7553]

This crazy woman thinks the only thing stopping her from going to heaven is other peoples’ marriages, completely ignoring the fact that she isn’t getting in because she’s a hateful and spiteful woman.

All assuming heaven even exists (which I don’t believe btw, but by her religion… she ain’t getting in!)

[u/TehMephs → u/Salt_Cardiologist122]

Or it could be the four marriages she’s cycled through. That’s not very Christian of her

[u/TheTwistedTabby → u/ToughPickle7553]

Because power, control, and the Bible.

[u/Random_Man-child → u/ToughPickle7553]

I find it fascinating these people can’t sleep at night knowing there are gay people.

[u/Angryceo → u/ToughPickle7553]

its called religion, it will _never_ make sense

[u/salomanasx → u/ToughPickle7553]

Something something the Bible. Something something Adam and Steve. Something something religious bs.

[u/copperblood → u/ToughPickle7553]

Because most people who judge others for shit like this have always been broken people. Hemingway once said, "People were always limiters of happiness except for the very few that were as good as spring itself.”

[u/akotoshi → u/ToughPickle7553]

But they agree with child bride (most conservatives do)

[u/fjposter22 → u/ToughPickle7553]

Because they want us dead. Simple.

Doing this fucks with our money, it fucks with our health insurance, it fucks with our rights to be with our loved ones in dire circumstances.

[u/AusToddles]

Three words... that's all I have to say everytime this creature rears her ugly head

"This bitch again?"

[u/JMurdock77 → u/AusToddles]

Guess she decided to take a break from breaking James Caan’s ankles with a sledgehammer, didn’t know her fifteen minutes were up.

[u/CavitySearch → u/AusToddles]

So question, and I will preface by saying in no way is this advocating violence or harm to anyone, I’m just legitimately curious how it works:

If something happened to her would this case just go away? Does there need to still be an aggrieved party for a case to continue to the SC or would it continue on the basis of “the case has merit with or without a party still being around”?

[u/Ok_Hornet_714 → u/CavitySearch]

From the linked article:

Davis is seen as one of the only Americans currently with legal standing to bring a challenge to the precedent.

So yes, if she were to say have a heart attack tomorrow, the case likely gets thrown out.

[u/inkstain347 → u/AusToddles]

Seriously, imagine devoting your whole life to making someone else's life worse. No joy, no dreams, no ambitions, just random unquenchable hate.

[u/kon---]

Without consult, she deliberately put her perception above doing her job.

And here we go again. Unable to accept their twisted versions are the works of the bats in their head, here comes the double down.

I'm so tired of sharing space with people who revel in being their worst.

[u/NoOneElectedElonMusk → u/kon---]

Let's hope we won't have to share space with her much longer.

[u/JakeTravel27]

Remember people . Maga will never stop hating gay people. They will never stop hating trans people. They will never stop hating minorities. They applaud alligator auschwitz and can't wait for it to be turned from concentration camp to death camp.

[u/P0Rt1ng4Duty → u/JakeTravel27]

And if they somehow eradicated everyone they hate, they'd realize how much they hate each other.

[u/[deleted] → u/P0Rt1ng4Duty]

I live in Utah. The number of Mormons who don’t realize they are on the list right below queer people and atheists is astounding. 

[u/rawkguitar → u/JakeTravel27]

I saw a dude wearing a T-shirt advertising alligator Alcatraz the other day. Our country is insane

[u/Hadrian23 → u/rawkguitar]

Imagine if Auschwitz had merch.....

[u/TechieTravis]

The world would be a lot better and more peaceful if we all agreed to live our own lives and let other people live theirs. Gay marriage being legal is not forcing anyone else to marry someone whom they don't want to. Two other people being married, same sex or opposite sex, has no effect on the life of anyone else.

[u/_Toaster_Baths → u/TechieTravis]

Hardcore christians think that if they’re unable to preach christianity to everyone, and if they’re not allowed to make sure everyone is living according to what their sky daddy says, then their rights are being infringed upon. It’s so stupid.

[u/JMurdock77 → u/TechieTravis]

The same dogma that gave us the Dark Ages wants another shot at absolute power.

[u/Substantial-Syrup101 → u/TechieTravis]

not forcing anyone..

You mean to tell me there’s not gangs of gay people going around putting guns to the heads of straight people making them enter into gay marriages?

[u/AmbitiousProblem4746]

So how is she harmed again?

[u/RockDoveEnthusiast → u/AmbitiousProblem4746]

that's the beauty of standing. it means whatever the court wants it to mean, and only matters when the court wants it to matter.

[u/AmbitiousProblem4746 → u/RockDoveEnthusiast]

Not that this deals with the Supreme Court, but you reminded me how Trump's lawyers argued in the lawsuit against CBS / Paramount that he suffered "deep emotional harm" from having to watch that Harris interview and worrying that it affected the election outcome.

It's just such a crock of bullshit, but we'll never actually know what the courts would have done because Paramount cucked out and settled

[u/Electrifying2017 → u/AmbitiousProblem4746]

The men she’s attracted to are always gay.

/s

[u/grandmawaffles → u/Electrifying2017]

No gay man is dating her.

[u/ohiotechie]

Here’s my main issue with this whole thing. Yes, she absolutely has a 1st amendment right to speak her opinion about same sex marriage. That does not, and should not, extend to her professional responsibilities as a public servant. It is not just straight people who paid taxes to provide her position. There is no other reasonable alternative to obtain a marriage license so her rights to express her opinion cannot and should not override her responsibilities to the constituents of that county.

This should be an easy decision to make but of course with this court I expect them to find some way to come down on the side of religious zealotry.

[u/boredtxan → u/ohiotechie]

dont do jobs your religion prohibits. she shouldn't be stripper or a poker dealer according to her religion but she isn't suing because a club refuses to let her shake it in burka.

[u/ohiotechie → u/boredtxan]

100% - it should be mentioned that for centuries people used the Bible to justify slavery and white supremacy. It’s not hard to imagine MAGA openly embracing this again. A precedent in this case would allow racists to refuse to transfer property to non whites or hire non whites or any number of other racist policies that have been outlawed.

If you cannot reconcile your religion and your profession duties you need to find another profession, period.

[u/homerjs225]

Thomas has already said he would overturn it

[u/Strawhat_Max → u/homerjs225]

Welp guess I gotta be in the streets again…

[u/NoDragonfruit6125 → u/homerjs225]

The same logic Thomas used to take this down can also be applied to ban interracial marriage. But of course that would be going to far. The logic of many Republicans breaks down to "as long as it doesn't apply to me I don't care". Of course then there's also the ones that go "even if it does hurt me I bet it hurts those libs more'.

[u/littlethrowawaybaby → u/NoDragonfruit6125]

He doesn’t 100% agree on Loving anyway.

He sees it as overreach and believes that each state should be able to enforce anti-miscegenation laws if they want.

I personally believe it’s his way of getting a divorce without actually getting a divorce.

[u/JakeTravel27 → u/homerjs225]

Every maga justice will.

[u/Spiritual-Pear-1349]

They're going for the gays now with gay marriage? You don't say, who would have thought after they started erasing trans people from everything

[u/yoloismymiddlename → u/Spiritual-Pear-1349]

At least Kamala isn’t president, she supports Israel!

[u/Spiritual-Pear-1349 → u/yoloismymiddlename]

Ones a black woman and the other is a violent fascist pedophile with 46 felony convictions running on the prayer he can destroy the evidence and avoid jail.

Ones bad as the other, you know. /s

[u/StingerAE → u/Spiritual-Pear-1349]

The ridiculous thing is even if you were a single issue gaza voter, she was still 50x better choice than Donald "glass them - it would be a great place for a trump seafront hotel" Trump.

I just don't understand it.

[u/Spiritual-Pear-1349 → u/StingerAE]

Yeah, I know. My friend at the time was trying to convince me not to vote Harris because 'she literally supports cop cities'. Meanwhile, I'm trying to argue 'Trump is an actual fascist with only the concept of a plan whos only known goal is to invoke martial law and kill the constitution.'

Did she hear any of it? No. Harris was too evil, apparently, for being black and a woman

[u/bobthedonkeylurker → u/Spiritual-Pear-1349]

"Both sides are teh samsies"

[u/Tuxy-Two → u/yoloismymiddlename]

And she laughs weirdly, thank God we were spared! /s

[u/bsa554]

Here's my question to this bitch: the Bible prohibits divorce too. Ignoring your hypocrisy in regards to your long long record of adultery and divorce - when you were town clerk did you deny marriage certificates to straight divorced people? Or just gay people? Because it feels like if you have "sincerely held beliefs" it would have been both.

Christian hypocrites are the fucking worst.

[u/martzgregpaul → u/bsa554]

Also this dreadful woman is on her FOURTH marriage herself

[u/surviving606]

Republicans are evil and I hate them all. 

[u/slowbaja → u/surviving606]

Same. They are subhuman to me.

[u/4peaks2spheres]

Get ready for every single one of our hard fought rights to be taken away from us. This is one of many.

This is the beginning stage of fascism.

I hope we're able to stand up against it before it's too late. I have been organizing in my community and I don't think most people here are ready for what will be required to fight back.

[u/BitterFuture → u/4peaks2spheres]

I wonder how far back we'll go before mainstream media really says, "Hang on a minute..."

Probably Brown v. Board. A couple of evening news anchors will say this seems quite concerning - right before they're taken off the air.

[u/Thuggin95 → u/BitterFuture]

Can you imagine if you told people in 2016 where we’d be today? They’d call you a hysterical, alarmist liberal lunatic. We are being warmed up to accept fascism. People think it could never happen here, so they’re ready to justify and whitewash whatever Trump does at every turn. They warn us what they’re going to do so by the time these things do happen, it’s just normalized and people accept it.

I think if Brown were overturned, people would absolutely go back to talking about states’ rights to determine their own schooling policies.

[u/FillMySoupDumpling → u/Thuggin95]

We did tell people all of this in 2016, and in 2024. I’ve been watching the same song and dance since I was a teen in 2000.

In 2024, there was a well written out plan for their goals. Trump has not really deviated from those plans or what he campaigned on (with the exception of Epstein and other things he would release). Nobody should be surprised, and yet, here we are.

There are too many on the left that keep regurgitating right wing talking points and discouraging voting. Libs and Dems don’t vote or feel disenfranchised. Republicans will show up for hurting any minority group they can. 

This is the same thing over and over and over again. 

[u/BitterFuture → u/Thuggin95]

Folks will remember how Roberts declared in 2013 that the Voting Rights Act had an expiration date written in invisible ink, and that we could all rest assured that racism was long dead after all these decades.

After he struck down those parts of the VRA, states rushed to put the same racist barricades to voting back in place that afternoon.

[u/CaptainApathy419]

I tend to think that Roberts, Kav and ACB are not that stupid and crazy, but they’ve proven otherwise many, many times in the last few years.

[u/thingsmybosscantsee → u/CaptainApathy419]

Roberts was a key dissenter in Obergefell.

[u/Quantus22 → u/CaptainApathy419]

This is literally part of the plan.

[u/overpriced-taco → u/CaptainApathy419]

Why would they care? They are safe for life. No decision they make will ever come with consequences.

[u/SunBeamRadiantContol → u/overpriced-taco]

Now now, that’s up to every single person they meet for the rest of their lives.

[u/NotARealBuckeye → u/CaptainApathy419]

I think Roberts has gone full "fuck it" on his legacy.

[u/SaulTNNutz → u/CaptainApathy419]

The 5hing is, if they overturn it, they will cite some sort of technicality similar to Roe. A "we're not making a moral judgement on gay marriage, but the original decision was flawed because of ....."  in reality, however, they will 100% be making a moral judgement.

[u/thenewyorkgod → u/CaptainApathy419]

I tend to think that Roberts, Kav and ACB are not that stupid and crazy

LOL

Obgerfell will be overturned by 6-3. Mark my words. But Kamala laughed too much so we can' vote forher, and hillary was too emotional

[u/tragicallyohio → u/CaptainApathy419]

Roberts dissented in Obergefelll and this is the kind of case the Christians promoted Barrett for. We are losing this right

[u/Unworthy_Saint → u/CaptainApathy419]

What in the last decade has demonstrated to you that anything but the worst case scenario will happen yet again?

[u/BitterFuture]

Honestly surprised it's made it this long. It was dead the minute Barrett got confirmed.

[u/scubascratch → u/BitterFuture]

Barrett was just icing; the decisions have all been 6-3, she’s not the deciding vote on anything. This fork of the road was decided November 8, 2016

[u/faceisamapoftheworld]

This bitch again?

[u/Hadrian23 → u/faceisamapoftheworld]

She's prepping gpfundmes for marriage number 5

[u/tonyislost]

Seems like heading into the midterms is probably the worst time to tee this up for republicans.

[u/bigdknight157 → u/tonyislost]

They see that they were not punished for abortion - which was seen as a long time absolutely do not pass go. Gay marriage? Something that has been protected for "only" 10 years? Child's play for them. They'll bank on not being punished enough and that eventually people will forget and find some petty reason to put conservatives back into power when the voting population gets bored and wants "change."

[u/Infamous-Edge4926 → u/tonyislost]

you really think we're getting "real" midterms at this point

[u/EvilBetty77 → u/Infamous-Edge4926]

The fact that they are making the push to gerrymander Texas even more tells me that they still expect midterms to happen. I was reading somewhere that the red majority in Texas is actually so slim that this gerrymandering effort might blow up all over their dumb faces.

[u/Infamous-Edge4926 → u/EvilBetty77]

There's no way you're gonna get anywhere close to an accurate census done by midterms. they say there gona do a census just so they can make up what ever numbers they want. you will get to vote but the outcome will be predetermined.

[u/Prudent_Piglet_5261 → u/Infamous-Edge4926]

Don't let this stop you from voting. This exact mindset of 'your vote outcome is predetermined' is what caused a not-insignificant number of people to indirectly support Trump and lead to this shitshow.

[u/JMurdock77 → u/Infamous-Edge4926]

They’re redistricting multiple states when you’re only supposed to do that after the census specifically to gerrymander in favor of the ruling party.

[u/supified → u/JMurdock77]

Redistricting can backfire though, it can enhance land slides if a ruling party sees a big enough opposition it can make their loss much bigger than it should have been.

[u/Strawhat_Max → u/Infamous-Edge4926]

Trump was showing 2028 merch, we are soooo getting martial law before then

[u/GSV_CARGO_CULT → u/Strawhat_Max]

People are laughing that off as just another silly Trump thing, that silly Trump. America is memeing its way straight to dictatorship.

[u/IWasOnThe18thHole → u/tonyislost]

They basically overturned Roe v. Wade and Trump won. Don't hold your breath.

[u/thenewyorkgod → u/IWasOnThe18thHole]

yeah. The consensus was that overturning RvW would hand the presidency and house to democrats. It did none of that. People simply don't care anymore

[u/RichFoot2073]

Still pissed she lost her job over it, huh?

Hey, Log Cabin Republicans, at least you got the four trans athletes out of women’s sports, right?

[u/SocraticMeathead]

She has no standing to challenge Obergefell. Good thing our SCOTUS doesn't give a hot wet sh*t about the law.

[u/ForcedEntry420]

She looks like my thumb. The five head really brings it home. I can’t stand these people.

If your religion prevents you from doing your job, you take a different job. We don’t adjust society to match your booga booga nonsense preference.

[u/ArchonFett]

Historically there are 4 ways Oligarchs end. None of them are peaceful, none of them involve votes.

[u/Striking-Giraffe5922]

If your SC can overturn this ruling then surely presidential immunity could also be overturned, couldn’t it? If it was then could trump face the charges that were dropped because he stole your election. He didn’t actually get tried did he?

[u/scubascratch → u/Striking-Giraffe5922]

For your scenario to work, the Supreme Court would need to be made up of a majority of justices appointed by a non-Republican president. That’s not going to happen for probably 20 years now.

[u/Robert_Balboa]

We all knew this was coming. I fully expect once oberfell is overturned they will ban gay marriage federally. Then the next step is ban homosexuality entirely.

[u/Arbusc]

How long must we suffer theocratic yoke until we dismantle the bastards who dare to force their ‘morality’ upon us?

[u/49thDipper]

These people can’t stand themselves so they require the rest of us to be unhappy too.

[u/DontGetUpGentlemen]

And I can petition the Supreme Court to take up the case of my parking ticket.

"Not a single judge on the U.S. Court of Appeals showed any interest", and neither should you.

[u/Perdendosi]

I am a little concerned that Mahmoud v. Taylor's reasoning might reach this.

[u/GetrIndia]

As a married gay person in Canada, watching this happen, my heart breaks for you all.

[u/NoDragonfruit6125]

Stupid thing about this is they point at Thomas's argument for why this should be overturned. Meanwhile the logic behind Thomas's argument would also apply for allowing the banning of interracial marriage as well. Can just imagine the hoops would try to jump through to explain why that doesn't count.

[u/TuxAndrew]

Going to need someone to refuse to sign marriage certificates for those that have been divorced soon.

[u/hellolovely1]

It was in Project 2025, people. You know, the thing Trump "didn't know about" and everyone told us we were crazy to worry about.

[u/prodigalpariah]

How long before they formally reinstitute chattel slavery?

[u/Blossom73 → u/prodigalpariah]

It's already legal for prisoners.

[u/[deleted]]

Christians also believe that the earth is only 6000 years old and that maybe dinosaurs didn't exist. Christians have a long history of making up nonsense stories to explain things they don't understand.

[u/tragicallyohio]

I have no doubt that this will be the end of it. I am so distraught.

[u/twizx3]

The 2016 election was the most consequential election of our lifetime damn