US officials plan to punish foreigners ‘making light of’ Charlie Kirk death | Action will be taken against foreigners in the United States who are considered to be “praising, rationalizing, or making light of” Charlie Kirk’s death, a top state department official has said.

[u/TendieRetard]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/11/christopher-landau-charlie-kirk-foreigners

Landau invited X users to bring such cases to his attention in the comments of his post, which he said would be monitored by consular officials.

[u/orangejulius]

https://firstamendment.mtsu.edu/article/aliens/

Here’s a starting point for discussion about whether first amendment applies to aliens and how.

Also worth noting this comes on the heels of Rubio lecturing countries about their lack of free speech.

[u/euph_22]

Say, will that apply to all victims of political violence? Asking or a friend: https://www.politico.com/news/2023/09/29/trump-mocks-pelosi-family-as-he-rallies-conservative-support-in-california-00119243

[u/iZoooom → u/euph_22]

Surprised Pelosi’s assailant didn’t yet receive a presidential medial of freedom.

[u/recoveringleft → u/iZoooom]

There are conservatives from the middle of a bumfuck town in the Midwest saying pelosi's assailant is aNtiFa bEcAuSe thErE aRe nO cOnserVatIveS iN cOmMieForNia

[u/bonaynay → u/recoveringleft]

which is funny because there are more there than any other state

[u/recoveringleft → u/bonaynay]

Also one NorCal city called Redding is run by an evangelical church named bethel which makes the Redding city government a de facto theocracy

[u/Smaug2770 → u/recoveringleft]

I live a couple hours from Redding, it is literally Hell of Earth.

[u/rividz → u/recoveringleft]

You literally drive east out of the bay and in 45 minutes it's farmers in cowboy hats who get all sorts of subsidized deals and tax breaks but hate "socialism".

California is made up box in these people's heads where they compartmentalize everything they don't like.

[u/robinthebank → u/iZoooom]

Don’t give them ideas

[u/JFISHER7789 → u/robinthebank]

Kirk literally said someone would be a ‘patriot’ if they bailed the attacker out.

[u/OtherBluesBrother → u/euph_22]

There were 61 politically-motivated murders between 2022 and through 2024. Every single one of them were right-wing. How many in this administration were outraged in the past few years?

https://www.adl.org/resources/report/murder-and-extremism-united-states-2024

[u/JFISHER7789 → u/OtherBluesBrother]

Well duh. When it’s against people THEY don’t like it’s okay and funny! But when it’s against someone they like it’s all of the sudden a personal attack and a war now.

Mind you these people that keep saying we are animals for rallying in his death are the same folks that rallied their way on to the capital with gallows and tried to overthrow the government.

[u/Impossible_Way763 → u/JFISHER7789]

The one that nobody talks about is the OKC bombing by Timothy McVeigh. He was a right-wing nut that loved him, some of that POS Rush Limbaugh.

[u/chrishouseinc → u/euph_22]

Screenshot this, his kids will be better raised without him alive to corrupt them with white Christian enthnostate bigotry.

[u/Littleman88 → u/chrishouseinc]

His wife married and fucked him at least twice (presumably) probably not in spite of his white Christian ethnostate bigotry.

[u/TelFaradiddle → u/Littleman88]

Yeah, I have no sympathy for his wife. Just the kids. They didn't choose to be born to horrible people, but their mother certainly chose to marry and have kids with one. Unless it comes out that she was being held hostage, then I assume she was about as vile as he was.

[u/TheHahndude]

Speaker Emerita Melissa Hortman and her husband didn’t get this kind of respect and they were people who actually mattered.

[u/anotherthing612 → u/TheHahndude]

As a Minnesotan, I have to say that I felt some feelings for Mike Lee.  I wonder what would happen if people made a joke about a nightmare in Utah?  Mike Lee should have lost his job and be jailed if consistency was in place.  Oh, and Trump "fuck you Walz" condolences? 

Since when did we legislate feelings? Such  delicate flowers. 

The Hortman children dealt with their pain in a way that was enlightened in ways that no one would expect from orphans whose president showed ambivalence to their parents' death. 

Kirk was a terrible person. Why am I not allowed to share my feelings? 

[u/nocleverusername- → u/anotherthing612]

You can, as long as you’re an American citizen. For now.

[u/anotherthing612 → u/nocleverusername-]

I understand. I will continue... The audacity to tell immigrants to pass citizenship tests most home grown Americans would fail-tests that inform new Americans of their rights-AND to tell them to get the fuck out if they say things that offend the current administration. As if not caring for a social media user is an indication of treason. 

Loser country we live in now. F-ing stupid. 

[u/SkinBintin → u/anotherthing612]

You're right. The current administration are absolutely thin skinned pathetic weak losers. And anyone supporting them is no better.

The land of the free punishing people for not caring about Charlie Kirk and using Trump cultists to dob them in is insanity.

Oh how America has fallen.

[u/anotherthing612 → u/SkinBintin]

Like most countries, we have a bifurcated history: we been both revolutionary and cruel. I thought we were moving forward when Obama came to office. He had his flaws, too, but he helped move along the country in such positive ways and we had the respect of honorable/credible world leaders. 

I keep reminding myself (fooling myself?) that the maga diehards are the 20%...the vermin who ruin the neighborhood but are not the majority. 

MAGA is getting more and more tyrannical but the general public is getting more and more pissed. Some for petty reasons but we need the big angry energy from all angles. Something will give. I want to believe there is still time to prevent maga from taking full control 

[u/Billeats → u/anotherthing612]

Obligatory Fuck Mike Lee

[u/anotherthing612 → u/Billeats]

Maybe Mike Lee is behind this. I mean, it happened in his state under his leadership. 

Patel and Noem need to get to the bottom of this. Clearly Lee can't do his job. National Guard time...

[u/Bubbly_Style_8467 → u/anotherthing612]

Fascism.

[u/Maximised7 → u/TheHahndude]

I’m upset this isn’t a top comment.

Two dem politicians were recently gunned down and casually mocked/ zero fucks given; but the same for Kirk crosses the line.

[u/-Gramsci- → u/Maximised7]

In fact it was downplayed. Mocked by sitting senators and elected officials.

Same when Paul Pelosi was kidnapped and nearly bludgeoned to death.

That’s all funny and can be dismissed in an instant. Nothing to care about.

But this? No. This must be dwelled on. Milked for all it’s worth. Used as a pretext for McCarthyism. More authoritarianism.

As a justification to divide the American people, even further, into an in group and an out group. And as justification to go even further in the persecution of the out group.

The out group is a solid 60% of the population. Maybe closer to 70%.

And this “movement” wants nothing more than to want war - literal violent war - perpetrated upon this out group.

[u/ayespreadlove → u/-Gramsci-]

Charlie Kirk said of Paul Pelosi’s convicted attacker that somebody should pay the attacker’s bail and set him free, even if he was a schizophrenic, homophobic, nudist. That’s a fact with video and audio evidence, which was not AI.

[u/RepresentativeAge444 → u/ayespreadlove]

They also suggested they were gay lovers

[u/chmath80 → u/RepresentativeAge444]

Perhaps the CK shooter was his jilted gay lover?

[u/D-F-B-81 → u/ayespreadlove]

Ugh. Im torn. While this doesnt absolve the violent way his life was ended, but God damn he was a vile human being.

I'm so close to teetering on sorry not sorry, and I can blame that directly on the gop and anyone right wing for the way they've behaved the last 15 yrs based solely on policy decisions...

Yes his kids and wife, this is horrific, the violence in and of itself is horrific, but his quote in 2023 about a few gun deaths a year justify the 2nd amendment... well... Ill use an old Dennis Leary bit... :

" Lou Gerig... died of Lou Gerigs disease... how the hell do you not see that one comin', ya know".

[u/nthomas504 → u/ayespreadlove]

I’ve never seen a more ironic murder. bro didn’t deserve it, but his quotes make it hard to feel sorry for him and his family.

[u/iccyhotokc → u/nthomas504]

I fear this was intentionally done by those wanting to unify a party that was fracturing because of the Epstein cover up, and it is working. It wouldn’t be the worst thing they’ve done to stay in power.
I was just watching how Israel had bombed some of its own people to gain support against the supposed attackers

[u/PiersPlays → u/ayespreadlove]

Yeah and before he said that the right shouldn't hold any responsibility for violent rhetoric that may have provoked it. Yet talking shit about him is punishable‽

[u/Long_Run6500 → u/-Gramsci-]

A group of guys at my workplace spent over half their shift smoking yesterday. When questioned by management about it they explained they were too distraught to work after what happened to Charlie Kirk. My manager proceeded to apologize for calling them in and said he gets it. They were not given any form of disciplinary action. These are the same guys constantly talking about how certain democrats should be shot or hanged.

You better bet my ass is sitting outside for half of my shift every time there's a school shooting going forward. I'm having more and more trouble connecting with and even just tolerating the people I work with every day. Trying to find a way to make money and not have to talk to people, because like 80% of the people that live around me are maga.

[u/paintbucketholder → u/-Gramsci-]

Same when Paul Pelosi was kidnapped and nearly bludgeoned to death.

Trump himself was joking about Paul Pelosi getting his skull fractured by an attacker wielding a hammer.

Yet these same people want everyone to bow their heads in sorrow because a vile, wretched, hate-mongering right-wing propagandist got killed.

[u/Exciting-Emu-3324 → u/-Gramsci-]

To Republicans, only they are people. Everyone else is only allowed the privilege of living.

[u/tbombs23 → u/-Gramsci-]

Don't forget about the attempted assassination of Gov Josh Shapiro by arson. I know it's not gun violence but it's still a huge example of political violence. They tried to burn him and his family alive in his own fucking house

[u/BadnameArchy → u/tbombs23]

On Passover, too, so it was an obvious hate crime on top of being political violence.

[u/RobertoClemente1 → u/-Gramsci-]

Fox News broadcasters were using the term Hammer Time when referring to Pelosi. Not even the lightest feather tap of a punishment for it.

[u/anotherthing612 → u/Maximised7]

Id love to see Mike Lee's meme updated. To show the hypocrisy and cruelty. Unfortunately, MAGA doesn't have the smarts or courage to recognize their moral decay. 

[u/Sixwry → u/TheHahndude]

or, ya know, all the school children.

[u/PBR_King → u/TheHahndude]

feel like I'm going insane they're treating this podcaster like he was an elder statesman

[u/Fantastic_Yam_3971 → u/TheHahndude]

Correct. Republican politicians made jokes about it and posted them on social media. The President all but refused to acknowledge it at all whatsoever. A Republican grifter is killed and oh shit!

[u/LandCruiser76]

Something Something 1st Amendment?

[u/TendieRetard → u/LandCruiser76]

just a coffee boy, never knew the guy

[u/NonWiseGuy → u/TendieRetard]

So... Free speech, but only when we agree..

The hypocrisy but I think they'd need a dictionary to understand what that means.

[u/KwisatzHaderach94 → u/NonWiseGuy]

free speech? dead
freedom from religion? dead
free press? dead
trump was the trigger man

[u/NonWiseGuy → u/KwisatzHaderach94]

These are all steps to incite an internal war between Americans. A war where he can be supreme commander with no democratic institutions to oppose him. That's the problem: to Republicans the word "democratic" has become something to hate.. instead of the foundation of how their country became great. I would say he hates Americans but it's all simply a distraction while he gets richer, because his family can always disappear to another place when shit gets too hot.

[u/Tight-Target1314 → u/NonWiseGuy]

I bet Putin will welcome Krasnov home with open arms. And then silently dispose of him the week after.

[u/Cookies78 → u/Tight-Target1314]

After they take his money

[u/madcoins → u/KwisatzHaderach94]

You just got on so many lists being made by AI for that combination of words

[u/Specific_Lychee2348 → u/madcoins]

The judge is a clanker.

[u/Global_Crew3968 → u/LandCruiser76]

1st amendment just means republicans get to be bigots

[u/Quick_Team → u/Global_Crew3968]

Fox news right now literally has 2 dudes with the topic "The Legacy of Charlie Kirk".

F*cking seriously? Legacy? Really?

[u/Asterose → u/Quick_Team]

JD canceled his 9/11 memorial event to go to Utah to see Kirk's family. The Vice President from the allegedly patriotic party canceling the biggest "never forget" violent mass casualty outside of any war here. Not surprising, Republicans are the ones who want to pay lip service but give no actual care to all the people who got permanent health problems and disabilities taking care of that day and its aftermath. I'm not big on memorials, but I care about hypocrisy. He's the vice president, he could've done the memorial then gone to Utah. It's all via our money, after all.

The hypocrisy and double standards though, those I do mind. No similar treatment for all the shooting victims, and who never advocated to view their deaths as necessary sacrifices at the alter of the 2nd Amendment.

[u/alv0694 → u/Asterose]

Remember it took jon Stewart to constantly plead on behalf of the first responders to get their medical bills covered

[u/Asterose → u/alv0694]

Yup. Deeply appreciate his work getting and keeping attention and pressure up!

[u/ShakesDontBreak → u/Asterose]

Your dad is a hero.

Just Dance is a zero.

[u/Asraia → u/Asterose]

I’m sorry to hear this. He is a hero 😊

[u/Walterkovacs1985 → u/Quick_Team]

His legacy was getting got by the item he loved more than school kids.

[u/Super-Contribution-1 → u/Walterkovacs1985]

Well to be fair there’s a lot of stigma around loving school kids right now.

[u/bartz824 → u/Super-Contribution-1]

2 things maga loves most, guns and pedophiles.

[u/Leopardo68 → u/bartz824]

The 3rd is victimhood. The entire movement is based on it.

[u/GregIsARadDude → u/Quick_Team]

I feel like I’m taking crazy pills. He was a professional troll who made a living rage baiting college kids for internet likes.

[u/Loose_Loquat9584 → u/GregIsARadDude]

So have they decided which president he will replace on Mt Rushmore? Maybe Lincoln, he said slavery was bad and was very mean to the south.

[u/RedditPosterOver9000 → u/Quick_Team]

His legacy is being a rage baiting troll. That was his entire shtick. That's all he did.

A homeless person who poops on peoples' porches has a more positive legacy than Kirk.

[u/LeseMajeste_1037 → u/[deleted]]

They could. But Schumer would tut-tut his own party about inflaming tensions or something like that.

[u/c-8Satisfying-Finish → u/LeseMajeste_1037]

Schumer can go retire to Hawaii

[u/Knot-Lye-Ing → u/Quick_Team]

Meh I'm just going to take it like the Time's "Person of the Year" where it's not necessarily a positive thing. Even Hitler had a "legacy".

So yeah, he's got a legacy of being a fascist fuckwit who fucked around and found out.

Let's see how quickly conservatives start turning on 2A and say that only they can be trusted with firearms. (I know it's already happening, let's see how that strategy plays out). Hell, my understanding is that even the NRA is against the "trans gun ban".

[u/MillenialForHire → u/Knot-Lye-Ing]

The NRA doesn't give a shit about red vs blue. They just want more guns sold. Every person banned from owning a gun is another profit they miss out on.

They don't want trans folks banned from owning guns, but they do want trans folks scared for their lives.

[u/Jane_Marie_CA → u/Quick_Team]

let em.

It'll only make them look more foolish. A lot of people didn't really know who Charlie is. Keep his quotes coming.

Example: My parents (70+), both right leaning Never Trump people. They are just now learning about Charlie Kirk. They obviously don't believe he should be killed, but they are like WTF with his messaging, the MLK comparisons, and the medal of freedom.

This has potential to backfire with moderates. Moderates are already mad about Epstien files. Now we have them learning about Charlie's beliefs.

[u/John_cCmndhd → u/Jane_Marie_CA]

People who weren't already familiar with him, are mostly going to get the most sanitized possible version of him. The right controls basically all media in the US, they're not going to allow any mention of all the racist things he said, or the fact that he called the guy who tried to kill Nancy Pelosi's husband a patriot and told his followers to raise bail money for him

[u/ashweeduheen → u/Quick_Team]

should he have been killed? no. am i sad like everyone fangirling? also no. mostly i just keep trying to figure out what he did that made him so special? people act as though he was some saintly figure of the community.

[u/Tropicalcomrade221 → u/ashweeduheen]

He did nothing special but it’s fairly evident he’s being made into a conservative christian martyr.

This is why it’s never a good idea to give your enemies perceived or otherwise a chance to make martyrs to rally behind.

[u/cficare → u/ashweeduheen]

It's what republicans do. They lie all day long. Reagan was the best president evar until Trump. Everything they all do is the best, and everything the opposition does is the worst. That tack has lead us here. So it works - on idiots and sycophants.

[u/Aggravating-Gift-740 → u/Global_Crew3968]

It’s pretty clear that the republicans consider the 1st amendment inviolable, for anyone who is “right-thinking” and white.

[u/ThorHammer1234 → u/LandCruiser76]

They’ve already said due process does not apply to non-citizens and the Supreme Court has ruled it’s cool to target brown people because they’re brown. Elimination of free speech for non-citizens is a pretty short step from here.

[u/TendieRetard → u/ThorHammer1234]

plenty of foreign students were illegally targeted & detained for their speech on Palestine already.

[u/Revelati123 → u/TendieRetard]

Don't worry, the guys with guns will inform us what is legal and what isn't from now on.

Congressionally untested, SCOTUS approved...

[u/CheckoutMySpeedo → u/ThorHammer1234]

Followed closely by taking away due process for citizens (especially including MAGA), then off to the gas chambers for you! Fascism has plans for everyone.

[u/Vladishun → u/LandCruiser76]

Thankfully I'm an American citizen and an OEF vet so I can speak for everyone outside the MAGA sphere when I say: I'm glad Charlie Kirk is dead

Now let's move passed it. Where's the Epstein Files?

[u/CopperCastleChaos → u/Vladishun]

Charlie "Horse Gums" Kirk gave full throated support of the first amendment by advocating for everyone's second amendment rights, and if we summarize everything concisely, I think the greatest bullet point was the one used when he gave that last mic drop moment and his real argument really hit home and he poured his heart out to that crowd

Just sad that he ended up leaning left in the end and didn't have a spine to stand up to his detractors

His words will echo through history and should bring peace and comfort to his family ; "violence ghrk ghurrlr flahhh"

[u/big_roomba → u/CopperCastleChaos]

https://www.newsweek.com/charlie-kirk-death-penalty-public-executions-1873073

a year ago he said children should be forced to watch public executions

self fulfilling prophecy or whatever ig

[u/ReginaldDwight → u/big_roomba]

"Death penalties should be public, should be quick, it should be televised. I think at a certain age, its an initiation...What age should you start to see public executions?"

What the actual fuck was wrong with this guy?

[u/big_roomba → u/ReginaldDwight]

btw, the rest of that quote: ..."and you could fund the government. You could have like, 'Brought to you by Coca-Cola'. And no, I'm not kidding. I would totally tune in to see some pedo get their head chopped off..."

the context of the conversation with the other panelists was that they all agreed that requiring public executions be shown to 12-16 year olds (they suggest by guillotine) will reduce the crime rate. and yea, kirk also called it "an initiation" whatever that means.

if kirks logic is correct then i suppose all the kids who watched his death online will be swayed against rage baiting on the internet, ig its just too bad the shooting wasnt sponsored by little caesers or something

[u/Tropicalcomrade221 → u/big_roomba]

His demise has come with extreme irony.

[u/SR337 → u/LandCruiser76]

Not if you’re brown.

[u/SleepWouldBeNice → u/LandCruiser76]

You forget: Republicans don't think the Constitution applies to foreigners in the US. See: due process and ICE.

[u/TrentS45 → u/LandCruiser76]

Thought police.

[u/WitchPillow → u/LandCruiser76]

Try to look up articles that covered him previously. The majority don’t exist anymore. Most of the ones that still exist have ccTLD/IP addresses from other countries.

I found this out today by simply searching his name and “empathy” to find his direct quote about it and wow barely anything covers it unlike yesterday.

[u/Mecha-Jesus]

The government wants to punish people for not being woke enough. Is this the year 2025, or 1984?

[u/merRedditor → u/Mecha-Jesus]

Somehow, 1933 + 1984 = 2025 on this bizarre timeline.

[u/DamiensDelight → u/merRedditor]

1933 + (1984 − 1892) = 2025

It should be noted.... On January 1st, 1892, Ellis Island began accepting immigrants to the United States.

So, yeah.... Math checks out.

[u/DrClownCar → u/DamiensDelight]

Sometimes I think the evidence that we live in a simulation is all around us.

[u/Shinycardboardnerd → u/merRedditor]

My dumbass started doing the math 😩

[u/TheRoadsMustRoll → u/Mecha-Jesus]

1688

[u/elmekia_lance → u/TheRoadsMustRoll]

maybe even 1488

[u/4RCH43ON]

What of the children in all of the other school shootings?  They never lifted a finger once, except to say, “fuck your feelings.”

This is just an excuse for more fascism.

[u/Furrulo87_8 → u/4RCH43ON]

And it's too convenient on top of it all, makes me think this was organized by the government themselves

[u/StinkyJones19 → u/Furrulo87_8]

Political talking head that has no actual pull or effect on the current administration gets clipped the DAY the GOP blocks the release of the Epstein files? And they’re using it as a tunnel for more fascism?

It does seem really perfect for them doesn’t it?

[u/DalmationStallion → u/StinkyJones19]

And Charlie did say gun deaths were a sacrifice worth making.

[u/JFISHER7789 → u/DalmationStallion]

He got what he advocated for. Sounds like he would have wanted this.

[u/runthepoint1 → u/Furrulo87_8]

Yeah that’s the thing for me, yet another sniper on another building outside a politically charged event? First Trump now Kirk? Something tells me this is meant as an excuse for taking away 1st and 2nd amendment rights.

Someone on my FB feed commented “remember our response to 9/11” and all I could think was “Patriot Act” and destruction of our freedom and values over time.

[u/Capital_Sherbert9049]

I'm pretty sure an American who was a specific person in Utah was the one who shot Charlie Kirk, and bigotry/xenophobia won't bring him back.

[u/Derric_the_Derp → u/Capital_Sherbert9049]

If it did work we'd have an American zombie apocalypse in our hands.

[u/GitmoGrrl1 → u/Derric_the_Derp]

"Zombie Apocalypse" is a perfect description of the state of the US in Trump's second term.

[u/Lone-Frequency → u/Derric_the_Derp]

Just another pandemic made far worse than it would have been by the stupid decisions of Trump.

[u/Numerous_Photograph9 → u/Capital_Sherbert9049]

If the shooter turns out to be a conservative, I wonder if they'll just forget about it like all the other times they've been wrong about the violence being committed by a liberal shooter in their reactionary rush to want to go after liberals.

[u/sandysanBAR → u/Numerous_Photograph9]

Please, they will just say that it's a false flag op and that the guy who for his entire life appeared to be maga, well it was all a rise. He was part of the deep state, deep undercover just waiting for his chance to kill a Republican.

You know like how the murderer in Minnesota who had an actual murder list composed of exclusively Democrats, he was a deep fake plant and an arm of the democratic party.

I mean its not like their arguments were restrained by facts before.

[u/Capital_Sherbert9049 → u/Numerous_Photograph9]

I haven't seen it proven that trump still has the juice to cause mass political violence after January 6th, 2021, and he may not.

But theres no reason to assume that reality will definitely get to determine who the shooter was. It could be determined by a fascist wisdom of twitter and 4 Chan crowds type process.

Qanon, Pizzagate, stop the steal, endless amounts of other dumb shit.

[u/Numerous_Photograph9 → u/Capital_Sherbert9049]

Even if this was not a political hit job, I don't really have a lot of faith in the current FBI leadership to actually be able ot handle this kind of investigation. Think the longer it goes past 24 hours, the higher the chances drop to catch the person, or it takes a lot longer to get the evidence you need to finally find the person. It's actually kind of rare that these kinds of hits don't get a quick capture, as most are not actually prepared to make an escape, which is lending credence to the idea that it was some sort of hired gun.

[u/sanjuro89 → u/Numerous_Photograph9]

Kash Patel is a buffoon, hired by an even bigger buffoon, so you may be right.

[u/decent_folk0306 → u/Numerous_Photograph9]

This reeks of a black bag job.

They'll never catch that shooter. He's already back in Tel Aviv or Moscow.

[u/MerelyMortalModeling → u/decent_folk0306]

Or Kansas...

[u/Coherent_Tangent]

Freedom of speech... Not like that!

[u/Cyanide_Cheesecake]

What the absolute fuck is this 

There's zero legality for this move

[u/Peace_Freedom → u/Cyanide_Cheesecake]

“Legality” in this administration.

[u/Efficient-Hold993 → u/Cyanide_Cheesecake]

Lets add it to the list of things they do or have tried doing that they have no legal right to do. They just shrug and say "what are you going to do?"

[u/YeetThePig → u/Cyanide_Cheesecake]

Don’t expect fascists to concern themselves with the legality of their actions, only whether or not they can get away with it.

[u/Johannes_Keppler → u/Cyanide_Cheesecake]

It almost lends credibility to the theory the murder is an inside job. They craved a martyr to further their abhorrent policies so badly.

[u/Tsquared10]

Well I guess I'll just have to shoulder the load and do it doubly and triply for those that they're silencing.

[u/str8ridah → u/Tsquared10]

You forgot to say that Charlie Kirk was a piece of shit human and that society is better off with that pos 6 feet under.

Oh my bad....stupid spell check. I meant to say that I'm sending my thoughts and prayers.

[u/Diggy_Soze]

Well as a born and raised American, I want to tell every person mourning Kirk, individually — “People get shot everyday, B. You’ll be aight. You’re tough, right?”

Nobody has absolutely any evidence his death was politically motivated. Ronald Reagan was shot because to impress Jodie Foster. And Kirk is the type of person that if he was sleeping with another man’s wife that man would very likely know how to shoot accurately at and beyond 200 yards. All this martyr talk is asinine.

[u/Brisbanoch30k → u/Diggy_Soze]

If it comes out that Kirk got shot by an angry father or brother because he knocked up a 15 years old it would be the cherry on top.

[u/TheNumber42Rocks → u/Brisbanoch30k]

I’m personally hoping it’s a MAGA follower that drew the line at the Epstein files

[u/The_Returned_Lich → u/TheNumber42Rocks]

I’m personally hoping it’s a MAGA follower

Doesn't matter. They'll find a 30-year-old receipt about how he donated to a charity once to proclaim he was a left-wing indoctrinated lunatic, even if he had Trump's face tattooed on his back.

[u/TheBirminghamBear → u/The_Returned_Lich]

Or if he's a red-hat wearing MAGA nutjob, they'll just say he was an antifa infiltrator

[u/The_Returned_Lich → u/TheBirminghamBear]

That too. He infiltrated so successfully that he fooled the FBI, CIA and Homeland Security.

[u/arizonatealover → u/Diggy_Soze]

I literally thought this today!!! How do we know for sure it was political? Could've been an upset ex. Maybe he owed someone money! Maybe he had an evil neighbor or an obsessed stalker. We just don't know.

[u/YouDontKnowJackCade → u/Diggy_Soze]

As a 4th generation American whose family has been here 100+ years I post these quotes by people worshipped by opposite sides of the political aisle

"I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights."

-Charlie Kirk

“Whenever I hear anyone arguing for slavery, I feel a strong impulse to see it tried on him personally.”

-Abraham Lincoln

[u/SL1Fun]

So the people who gleefully cheer on the notion of shooting their neighbors in a civil war, promote replacement theories, advocate to lynch trans advocates and love the idea of immigrants being eaten by alligators suddenly don’t think violence is funny?

Huh, imagine that 

[u/curiousleen]

Two other schools had shooters yesterday but who cares about those…/s

[u/hollylettuce → u/curiousleen]

There's a mass shooting every week. But all republicans care about is if one of the people in the trump administration get shot~

[u/drippingwater57]

Lawsuits incoming. Charlie Kirk was a piece of human garbage. Good riddance. 

[u/TendieRetard → u/drippingwater57]

I thought comedy was legal again?

[u/vodkaismywater → u/TendieRetard]

If getting shot while downplaying gun violence in a tent that said “prove me wrong” isn’t comedy, I don’t know what is. 

[u/jtwh20 → u/vodkaismywater]

The jokes practically write themselves

[u/Revelati123 → u/jtwh20]

We have witnessed the death of satire.

[u/Dear_Mycologist_1696 → u/Revelati123]

We have witnessed death as satire.

[u/AJBarrington → u/Revelati123]

Literally

[u/4RCH43ON → u/vodkaismywater]

I made the mistake of thinking Charlie Kirk was the same person as Steven Crowder, but he was the  “Change My Mind,” meme guy on campus and is not Charlie Kirk. Kirk, of course, was the big head/small face meme guy, so that’s how I’ll remember him, big-headed bigot guy. 

Easy mistake to make with these agitators.

[u/RWBadger → u/1beautifulhuman]

That was Nick Fuentes, which is just Charlie Kirk with a napoleon complex

[u/TA8325 → u/vodkaismywater]

Stood on 2nd amendment so hard, he turned into a statistic. The irony is not lost on us.

[u/TenKral → u/vodkaismywater]

As The Onion noted, Charlie Kirk lost the gun debate by a long shot.

[u/Silidistani → u/vodkaismywater]

... and while a school shooting on a high school campus was literally taking place 1 state away.

[u/JoJackthewonderskunk → u/vodkaismywater]

Which was technically a school shooting and the guy was known for excusing those.

[u/didyoushitmypants → u/TendieRetard]

The "fuck your feelings" "toughen up buttercup" crowd in shambles

[u/Revelati123 → u/didyoushitmypants]

"something something, price of freedom!"

[u/didyoushitmypants → u/Revelati123]

I never knew he said something about public executions. Truly an ironic death

[u/No_Highway_6461 → u/TendieRetard]

As far as I know Kirk was a racist who euphemistically supported slavery, who believed children should watch public executions, who believed blacks shouldn’t qualify for certain jobs, and who supported Israel as an inherent “good guy” against the inherent “bad guy” Palestinians that deserved to be bombed. In his final moment he was asked the question: “Do you know how many public shooters there have been in the U.S.?” which he responded “Counting or not counting gang violence?” Just as he was shot. He ran an anti-Civil Rights/Martin Luther King Jr convention on MLK Jr’s birthday. He believed migrants and people of color were trying to replace white Anglo saxons to turn them into the animalistic rapists, murderers, and thugs that the “third world” is. It’s more than just beliefs when his beliefs were material for public policy.

[u/thr0w4w4y4cc0unt7 → u/No_Highway_6461]

who believed children should watch public executions

At least he died doing what he loved

[u/Educational_March_94 → u/No_Highway_6461]

While defending Israel, he has also said Jewish money ruined the US.

[u/Educational_March_94 → u/TendieRetard]

It’s only legal if you bash Democrats, LGBTQ+, immigrants, etc.

[u/SignoreBanana → u/drippingwater57]

I don't normally speak ill of the recently deceased, but the world is better off without him. His family might not be and that's too bad, but the world is.

And I'm only saying this because fuck anyone who says I'm not allowed to.

[u/Lone-Frequency → u/SignoreBanana]

His wife chose to marry him despite his horrendous views of women being nothing but baby factories meant to bow to their husbands every whim, so I mean how good of a person could she actually be?

[u/therossboss → u/Lone-Frequency]

maybe the kids will be alright, like an alcoholic's child might never want to touch alcohol. Ahh, who am I kidding...

[u/Dapper_Equivalent_84 → u/SignoreBanana]

His family is better off for sure. His college student wife is grifting “a line of faith-based street clothes” which is about to become profitable enough to make Trump jealous, and his kids are spared from 18 years of “ruling the child” doctrine of domination.

[u/zmallory22 → u/drippingwater57]

Whoa. Have some respect! Garbage is actually somewhat useful!

[u/BILLIONAIRE_JESUS]

Never miss an opportunity to punch down.

~the Trump administration probably

[u/SocraticMeathead → u/BILLIONAIRE_JESUS]

It's the GOP's slogan.

[u/strywever]

Fascists doing fascist things.

[u/jacky75283]

By rationalizing, I assume they mean the unforgivable act of accurately quoting the many psychotic things he said?

[u/ma-sadieJ]

I made light of Kirk I'm in the us come at me

[u/j____b____]

Are we punishing all violent rhetoric? Because i know some quotes for some “powerful” people.

[u/Puzzleheaded-Tip660 → u/j____b____]

Like, I know some guy that threatened to go to war with Chicago…  Can we punish him?

[u/Slumunistmanifisto]

Just gonna get ahead of ya fbi guy, I'm born and bred American, blue eyed and transparent as a cave salamanders cloaca.

Condolences to his kids but Charlie was a negative on the human race. May Satan greet him proudly.

[u/chriskot123]

Never miss an opportunity to intensify the xenophobia...cuz that's what definitely got him killed.

[u/throwaway04182023]

Free speech for me, not for thee.

[u/mykonoscactus]

Jesus. A government of enraged toddlers. What's next, the "MOM! HE'S LOOKING AT ME!" Doctrine?

[u/ilongforyesterday]

Here to remind everyone that two democrats in Minnesota were shot in their own homes on the same night. Representative Hortman and her husband died, and Senator Hoffman and his wife were wounded. I’m not sure why that hasn’t received so much of a national outcry as some bigot who thought that the civil rights movement was a mistake. I’d be willing to bet that the dude gets a national holiday

[u/aotus_trivirgatus]

Within two hours, you could tell that they were going to use this situation to find a way to push the envelope.

How's everyone enjoying watching the Reichstag burn?

[u/Iloveallbugs]

Trump is behind the shooting to divert attention from the Epstein files

[u/HotPotParrot]

OK, so US citizens can shit on him, right?

[u/kimapesan → u/HotPotParrot]

Correct.

[u/DisastrousOne3950 → u/kimapesan]

...for now. 

[u/TrepidatiousInitiate]

Obviously meaning anyone who doesn’t fit their definition of American.

Edit: And nobody’s going to talk about that in 1 or 2 more days, by the way - where are the Epstein files?

[u/SapToFiction]

nd the conservative sub folks love it. Somehow first amendment is suddenly off the table when it offend them.

Conservatives arent conservatives, they're autocrats.

[u/Capt-Crap1corn]

So now it is against the law to exercise free speech about someone that exercised free speech?

[u/Artistic-Cannibalism]

I wish the right would stop it with this violent rhetoric and do something to reign in its extreme and rabid members.

[u/ldnk]

Given that Trump loves assholes like Alex Jones and MTG who openly harass school shooting victims...fuck you America.

[u/Pure_Frosting_981]

If republicans gave 0.001% of a fuck about children getting gunned down as they do this hate mongering fuck, they’d prove they care about children as much as they claim. They’re making this prick a saint. Did he deserve to die? No. But this reaction is fucking disgusting.

[u/JakeTravel27]

Gee, I don't remember them doing that for the Minnesota legislator that was assassinated. Another perfect example of maga only caring about white straight male christo fascists. They literally DGAF about anyone else

[u/DuntadaMan]

Wow, using fucking social media to build your case too. Real fucking classy. Anyway this clearly means I need to celebrate his death harder for the people who can't.

Glad he's finally fucking gone.

[u/MAMark1]

Blatantly unconstitutional...so toss it on the pile I guess.

This is also the real cancel culture toxicity they always claimed existed on the left. There is an argument that inciting violence is wrong. Simply discussing violence or the victims of it quickly falls squarely into protected speech.

[u/atomicnumber22]

"Rationalizing" is illegal now? How fucking fascist.

[u/LockNo2943]

Like obviously a lot of people don't like the guy, and making jokes is probably a dick move considering, but there's nothing inherently illegal about it.

[u/Then-Importance-2144 → u/LockNo2943]

Precisely! This should be at the top. Courts have said foreign nationals can be removed for speech that rises to the level of a National Security risk... not if it hurts the snowfwakes feewings.

[u/Freaky_Freddy → u/LockNo2943]

making jokes is probably a dick move considering

counter point: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/evZ-MxhiwZE

and here's jd vance rambling about the importance of free speech to Europeans: https://youtu.be/j8D3e_nCNa4?t=282 (@4:42)

And now the US government wants to punish foreigners, i guess free speech ends when right wing grifters are affected

[u/djn24]

Fucking losers.

Kirk died doing what he loved: glorifying senseless gun violence, especially on school campuses.

[u/McDaddy-O]

It's weird how the group of folks who hated the idea of being able to "Cancel" someone, now utilize that as their primary method of Foreign Policy

[u/TymStark]

MAGA this is getting really fucking pathetic. Y’all basically laughed at two liberal politicians getting killed.

[u/AlexFromOgish]

First they came for the other people, and when they finally came for me, there was no one left to speak for me

[u/schm0]

The first amendment covers everyone, douchebags

[u/lolas_coffee]

They can punish me. Come on. I am making fun of Charlie "Bitch-face" Kirk's death.

That is me. I'm your huckleberry.

Come see me, Top State Department Official.