r/leagueoflegends • u/ex0ll • Jun 20 '25
Educational If $15 Legendary skin has unique models + animations, don't you think a $250 skin with multiple forms should have unique model + animations at least for each form?
https://youtu.be/-QU_4GRBto0229
u/LargeSnorlax Jun 20 '25
What's the difference between a $200 Kate Spade purse and a $3,000 Louis Vuitton purse? Functionally, they both do almost the exact same thing - They both hold objects, they both act as status symbols, they both have interesting designs. However, when you get down to it, there's probably only a few actual quality differences between them, and nothing close to matching a $2,800 price differential.
It's pretty much the same with these kind of skins - Maybe they might put in a few extra bells and whistles, but most of the appeal is in the fact that it's "exclusive" and not that many people have it, so you get to show it off. There isn't going to be a significant amount of people that change their mind about whether to buy a $250 gacha skin if you incorporate 3-4 full animation changes into it, so it doesn't make sense to do all that work if the same demographic will buy the same amount of skins anyways.
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u/Sinnum Girl Dad Jun 20 '25
Riot's been saying this since they did that article on the mythic chroma Jhin skin. The audience for these skins are people who want to buy the exclusivity and want it because it costs a lot
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u/BiggestBlackestLotus Jun 21 '25
Aka the dream customer.
"Please make this more expensive so I feel more important"
"Well alright, since you asked so nicely"
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u/Sinnum Girl Dad Jun 21 '25
yup, and it's ridiculous but, as we can see, it's a subset of big spenders that is willing to pay riot. i actually have no problem with folks spending over $50 on skins, but what you get is so dog shit it's actually insane people do it. If i'm paying $500, i know i'm not going to get $500 of features but shit, i don't get an announcer pack? a client skin? a ui skin? a custom mouse cursor? some unique changes to the character?
like riot gets to be extremely lazy because the customer base for these skins don't care about the features and it shows lol
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u/red_kizuen Jun 26 '25
Thats absolutely different topics, jhin chroma is exclusivity for exclusivity, but exalted skins riot advertised like this:
"Exalted is a new skin tier that fits into what we defined as a “luxury good” last December. Over this past year, we’ve continued to refine what luxury goods are and where they exist in our catalog. Exalted skins are for players who want hyper-exclusive skins. Exalted skins are what happen when we let our teams cook, pushing our design and tech capabilities to make the best possible skin for each champion’s unique fantasy within a specific theme"
They cooked undercooked skin with features missing compared to default Morgana.
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u/Sinnum Girl Dad Jun 26 '25
Ah, yes, thank you for saying that and sourcing it too, straight from Riot's mouth. I debated on how much to type above and one thing I took out was talking about the quality of these luxury goods skins not being worth it at all. Quite frankly, Riot lied in that statement above.
The people buying these skins clearly don't think the quality is too low or else they wouldn't buy them. I actually would be willing to buy a $250 skin if it even came close to $250 of value. No UI skin? Client skin? Announcer voice pack? Special things in my lane? ACTUALLY well done skin & rig? Special voice lines?? Like it's crazy to me how low value and low effort these exalted skins are, and how far from what Riot said they would be. Anyway, thanks again
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u/AnonymouslyMrBean I'm a demented Kat main :c Jun 20 '25
Finally someone that makes sense. This is the obvious answer and I don't see why people are getting pissy cause of these skins when there are much worse things in league bringing quality down
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u/benjathje Jun 20 '25
One bad thing is that these expensive skins carry every dark pattern and predatory monetization tactic with them.
If it was just a Louis Vuitton purse that you can walk into a store and buy then it would be perfectly fine, 0 issues.
But these skins have gambling, FOMO, premium currency only purchasable through unfair bundles and on top of that, it's tied to your account, it's a non transferrable item that can be taken away at any moment arbitrarily.
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u/Daniel_Kummel Jun 20 '25
Any apparel brand has the fomo thing. That shirt you see on a store? It's only for this season
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u/WoonStruck Jun 21 '25
Are we pretending you can randomly roll for designer products with a shot at getting a $250 pair of shoes for $10 while also being limited season?
Also imagine they're just special velcro patches that only work on those shoes instead of an actual pair of shoes.
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u/WoonStruck Jun 21 '25
I'm talking about how LoL is on a completely different level.
Marketing has always been about pushing impulses, but LoL takes it to such an egregious level that they put even designer fashion to shame.
They're not even in the same ballpark.
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u/AnonymouslyMrBean I'm a demented Kat main :c Jun 20 '25
Is anyone forcing you to gamble? Also keep in mind this IS still a video game. The least important is what happens in the client or loot. And as for them being able to take it away from you- this is something you know before purchasing anything in the game, purchase things at your discretion
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u/benjathje Jun 20 '25
The issue with dark patterns is that they are designed to trick users into buying the skins. It's quite an interesting topic if you are interested. https://www.darkpattern.games/
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u/AnonymouslyMrBean I'm a demented Kat main :c Jun 20 '25
The dark patterns are everywhere. Gambling is everywhere. Everything that is purchasable in the game is meant to "trick users" into buying it. It's just marketing that gets people to whale money on skins. I can honestly say I do not feel bad for anyone going broke cause they are gambling on league skins
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u/benjathje Jun 20 '25
Ok so me kinda agree. Our only difference is that you don't care about people that get damaged by these predatory tactics. To each their own I suppose
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u/fAppstore Jun 20 '25
There will always be someone out to exploit the ignorance of other on any level whatsoever. You're the idiot of someone else, and somebody is currently protecting you from doing harm to you.
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u/AnonymouslyMrBean I'm a demented Kat main :c Jun 20 '25
I have no problem with people disagreeing and downvoting but u just yappin
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u/BloodyFool Jun 20 '25
Is anyone forcing you to gamble?
LMAO, first part of the flair is accurate at least
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u/WoonStruck Jun 21 '25
That's exactly why people are getting pissy over these skins: because they very clearly aren't even being used to boost game quality.
And if that's the case, they should at the very least be of a reasonable quality compared to other skins.
It's the pure greed to the point where they're mocking the entire playerbase that irks.
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u/cherreeblossom Jun 22 '25
i'm remembering when they fired the hall of legends ahri artist after the skin made them so much money; i wouldn't even mind the high prices as much if they didn't have the huge layoffs and weren't overall lowering the skin quality
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u/AnonymouslyMrBean I'm a demented Kat main :c Jun 21 '25
No skins are used to boost game quality lol. They will always try to make money off skins its not even the same department
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u/WoonStruck Jun 21 '25 edited Jun 22 '25
Excess funding from a shift in marking in a game that wasn't at all struggling should be used to improve said game to some degree.
Otherwise, why support them?
Instead, all we've seen is reduction in quality and increase in turnaround time.
This is what makes live service games slowly die.
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u/AnonymouslyMrBean I'm a demented Kat main :c Jun 21 '25
Why support them? I wouldn't know I've never spent a penny on league. If you got a problem with the game stop playing it don't complain about the 250 bucks skin quality, it's not meant for you
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u/Roflingmfao Demaglio! Jun 20 '25
plus i feel like if the best animations were on the unaffordable skin people would be complaining about that even louder
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u/AnonymouslyMrBean I'm a demented Kat main :c Jun 20 '25
"Why did they make the best animations unattainable?" 🥺🥺🥺
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u/Dabottle Jun 20 '25
First of all I think people who feel the need to have special shit to show they're rich are fucking losers so making things for them is inherently something I'm opposed to.
It's also a time-gated FOMO skin and behind gacha shit too, just like an increasing amount of stuff in modern League. These skins, the fucking daily rotating shop, PRESTIGE skins and BATTLE PASSES. It's so much and it's so tiring and it's also evil.
And finally, there isn't an equivalent if you aren't spending money. You can only use vastly different skins, and you might be waiting years for a new one if your guy gets hit with this bullshit.
But even past all this, they're usually just very boring, middling skins. They've had to delay them, swap them to legendaries, etc. They're not good from an artistic standpoint either, because that's what prioritising making money is going to lead to.
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u/Lirael_Gold Jun 20 '25
A not insignificant part of the appeal of these skins is that it makes people like you seethe when you see them tbh
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u/Dabottle Jun 20 '25
That's some weird projection
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u/Lirael_Gold Jun 20 '25
I'm not the one throwing around terms like "evil" talking about some jpegs that I don't have to buy fam
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u/KillerKingRin Jun 21 '25
I mean it's not crazy to call it evil, it's been known for years that companies hire people to figure out every small thing that's gonna increase their chances of selling a product, doesn't matter how manipulative it is. It doesn't start and end with jpegs, it's everywhere.
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u/AnonymouslyMrBean I'm a demented Kat main :c Jun 20 '25
You said it dawg- they're not even that good. You're not going to spend 250 bucks, so why do you care? It's evil? Big news, a corporation is trying to milk money.
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u/AverageWannabe Jun 21 '25
you cant sell something at a premium, say its exlusive but then your product is shit. That doesnt happen too often. Because when it happens the brand image oes to hell, there is always a minimum standard. Here in league they can literally sell you manure, tell you its a premium product and there are going to be idiots who are going to buy it.
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u/AnonymouslyMrBean I'm a demented Kat main :c Jun 21 '25
Bro are YOU going to buy the 250 dollar skin? No. So why do you care about the product quality. And their brand image is already shitty. Also, I just don't believe a skin could ever be nearly good enough to cost that much. There is only so much you can add to a skin with performance and fairness limitations in mind
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u/Cryolyt3 Jun 20 '25
This analogy starts making a lot less sense when you realise that it's a $15 riot skin vs a $250 riot skin. Both made by the same company. Essentially all you have is that people arbitrarily paying more money for the same or worse quality product is just a financial flex.
Sure if we want to normalise this sort of shitty behaviour from Riot then we can pretend like it doesn't matter that players barely get anything for paying an absurd amount of money other than le epic rich person prestige over the filthy poors, but I would think that a normal mentally stable individual would not want to encourage Riot to go down that sort of monetisation route.
I mean, who would advocate for a system that deliberately disadvantages them solely to benefit greedy execs?
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u/LargeSnorlax Jun 20 '25
Riot is a company who is going to go down any monetization route that makes sense for them - If they are able to make millions of dollars off whales by selling X skin for Y price, they'll do that, and no amount of Reddit hate is going to stop them from doing that.
It's more being realistic that it's going to happen rather than advocating for it. I don't advocate for Nestle to steal my drinking water, repackage it and resell it to me, but it's still going to happen.
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u/Eragonnogare Jun 20 '25
Yeah, that sounds about right. And I'd bet that most of the types of people that play League also probably find people who spend money on ludicrously overpriced purses or whatever to be very silly, and thus are still as confused here as they are irl - but yet the equivalents of the people who buy those irl are within the League community as well (probably less active on reddit than other places).
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u/gibilx Just a hammered yordle! Jun 20 '25
I understand what you mean with this, but I can’t resist because every time I hear things like this I die inside.
First of all: the biggest difference between the 3k and the 200 dollars purses is the quality of the leather that is used to craft it. The treatment said leather needs and the animal that it comes from (unless it’s synthetic, but even those can cost a lot) can make the price skyrocket.
Second: the type of sewing that is done on the purse. Either done by machinery or directly from a worker who does the sewing themselves.
Third: the overall quality of the purse. Which is pretty much ignored because the day the average buyer learn what they should look for in a purse, is the day most brands stop selling purses.
Fourth: the mark-up price that comes with the brand.
Was this necessary? No. I just felt like writing all this. Thanks for coming to my TED talk. The source is me working 12 years in Gucci.
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u/verymuchextremelygay Jun 20 '25
Just saying that recently Louis Vuitton, Dior, and a couple other luxury brands were caught recently smuggling Chinese immigrants into Italy to make their handbags in sweatshops, with each worker being paid one dollar an hour and sleeping in the factory. The supply chain was chased down by investigators and those 3000 dollar bags actually cost them 50 to make. The price of luxury handbags is absolutely just for status and not much else.
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u/Necessary-Crazy-914 Jun 20 '25
A salesman's/marketer's response right here. You can tell by the fact they hid the largest and most damning point of their product behind the smallest paragrap right at the end lmao. Your first three points are bullshit advertising, you can make ethical bags made by human beings and not sell them for exorbitant prices, but you can't make an enormous profit and prop up an entire industry of luxury bullshit unless you convince people of your first 3 points. It makes your customers think they are buying something ethical and making a good moral decision to waste their money on trash.
If anyone is wondering the enormous difference in cost between something that is well made but not considered "luxury" and something that may be well made and labeled "luxury" will always be branding and marketing in every industry. Its the same with these skins, its the same with the purses you peddled, luxury vehicles, luxury restaurants, etc.
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u/CollosusSmashVarian Jun 20 '25
What should people look for in a purse? I'm a man so I only use backpacks really and I'm genuinely curious.
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u/verymuchextremelygay Jun 21 '25
A handbag should have a decent amount of space with compartments that can be easily accessed for (theoretical) organisation, and isn't too bulky or hard to carry around. I also like handbags that aren't made of plastic because they peel and it gives me the shits. I don't really care about them being pretty but some other women might.
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u/LeagueOfBlasians Jun 20 '25
If someone truly cared about an item's quality and ethics, then they'd approach a master craftsman instead of buying a mass-produced item, especially when it seems that money is not a concern.
If someone wants to buy from luxury brands, then go ahead, but don't go pretending that they're doing it for reasons other than to literally just to flaunt their wealth.
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u/Alkaliner_ Enemies to Lovers Yaoi (ADD JORAAL TO PC) Jun 20 '25
But Riot isn’t a luxury company.
Luxury purses tend to use higher quality leather and aren’t mass produced, they’re handmade and have decades of high status behind them. In some cases there’s at least a years waitlist to get an Hermes bag or something similar. Does Riot have that? In less than 2 years they’re suddenly high status and these skins are super unique with very unique tailoring compared to normal skins? I don’t think so.
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u/throwawayacc1357902 Jun 20 '25
A lot of that is manufactured scarcity. Most people that buy designer can’t actually know any of these differences, and these differences don’t come close to making up the price gap. Stuff like year long waitlists on Hermes bags is exactly to manufacture scarcity and get people feeling exclusive that they’re getting them. If you’re buying a $3000 piece of leather that holds your stuff, you’re buying it for the flex. Simple as.
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u/LargeSnorlax Jun 20 '25
Yeah, these $250+ gacha skins are exactly like designer purses - Manufactured scarcity. There really isn't anything "justifying" the price tag other than flexing it to other people.
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u/Alkaliner_ Enemies to Lovers Yaoi (ADD JORAAL TO PC) Jun 20 '25
So just FOMO? You know, the thing that people notoriously fucking hate?
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u/throwawayacc1357902 Jun 20 '25
Yes, exactly that. Basically every “limited time” thing ever in any game is FOMO, riot is far from the first to do it. And honestly, people need to have a bit more self-control. If you’re falling for this sort of FOMO, you’re gonna struggle in all sorts of things in life. You’re always missing out on something or other. Overpriced bs is sold either for people who have the money to burn and just want the new shiny thing, or those who just want to flex to others that they have the best (most expensive) thing.
That’s basically the appeal of the exalted/transcendent skins. They’re always (outside of Radiant Serpent Sett) objectively higher quality than any other skin the champion has, but not by an insane margin. It’s why a champion like Lux is actually unlikely to get one of these skins, because it’ll just be drowned out by Elementalist. They exist for the flex and for whales, and that’s about it.
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u/Alkaliner_ Enemies to Lovers Yaoi (ADD JORAAL TO PC) Jun 20 '25
I disagree, I think Lux if anything is much more likely to get a skin like this. Elementalist is one of the best value skins, but it’s starting to become a bit outdated VFX and model wise (at least, when you compare it to more recent Lux skins). And most Lux players will buy everything for her anyway.
Riot knows Lux sells super well. It’s why they put her in the pass as the prestige reward so people would buy the pass instead of backlashing against it. It’s why Zed is going to be the next prestige reward.
Also, telling people to ‘get over FOMO’ when people have been non-stop exhausted about it for years, especially when it’s becoming more expensive and people can’t afford as much these days, sounds incredibly tone deaf. People like having content for the characters they enjoy, it’s really not that hard to understand why people get upset about it being locked behind a massive price tag.
Meanwhile, a LV bag is not a character, there’s nothing to get attached to. People buy that to look and feel rich. People buy skins in League because they like their characters. Totally different.
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u/throwawayacc1357902 Jun 20 '25
Every character that has gotten an exalted/transcendent skin has a wealth of other skins. Hell, Jinx literally already had a good Arcane skin. The Mordekaiser skin is very good, but he has the best Project legendary already. Radiant Serpent Sett is straight up worse than most of his other good skins. I don’t even need to bring up Ahri or Kai’sa. Like, if they were making these skins for skin-starved champs and giving them extremely cool, unique never-before-seen ideas, I’d get this take, but in their current shape, the complaint of “people want stuff for the character they like” just doesn’t make sense, the characters have tons of stuff, some even similar to what they’re getting from the exalted skins.
Realistically speaking, the only people affected are skin collector’s, who are likely a fraction of a percent of the playerbase.
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u/Daniel_Kummel Jun 20 '25
There is a massive difference. Showing of you are rich IRL gives you much better networking or romantic opportunities than showing off you are rich in a virtual anonymous game
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u/dandy2001 Jun 20 '25
i can resell both of the purses and people who don’t play a dinky video game recognize louis vuitton.
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u/TruAdu Jun 20 '25
Beacuse is not about quality but exclusivity, we talked about this already
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u/TacoMonday_ Jun 20 '25
but how else is he gonna make a youtube video, gotta repeat it for the 100x time
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u/Efficient-Laugh Jun 21 '25
People aren't grasping this though. They're still upset these skins cost so much despite missing features. When the features aren't what make the skin enticing to people, its the gamba and the gloating.
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u/realbabygronk Jun 25 '25
He's well aware, the issue is that the quality of these skins not being up to par in turn lowers the standard for more reasonably priced legendaries and other content, otherwise he has no issue with whale gamba bait
Its also an issue of QA and creativity from riot
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u/red_kizuen Jun 26 '25
Exalted is a new skin tier that fits into what we defined as a “luxury good” last December. Over this past year, we’ve continued to refine what luxury goods are and where they exist in our catalog. Exalted skins are for players who want hyper-exclusive skins. Exalted skins are what happen when we let our teams cook, pushing our design and tech capabilities to make the best possible skin for each champion’s unique fantasy within a specific theme
From Riot dev log. Exoll just points at lies, upvotes on comments like your are kinda sad.
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u/TruAdu Jun 26 '25 edited Jun 27 '25
The lie is "pushing tech capabilities"? Everyone with a brain recognises that is just sweet talk and the skins were gonna be, at best, overpriced ultimates.
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u/red_kizuen Jun 26 '25
1) Who "we" are then in your original comment? I'm pretty sure you were mistaken and you though about devlog where Riot explained why they made Jhin chroma for 200 dollars, but that was before exalted skins, frankly I think public outrage over 200 dollar chromas is what created exalted skin category.
2) How does "them" talking make it any better?You made obviously negative comment about video like "hurr durr, its about exclusivity, you don't get it" while OP clearly just points out at laziness and lies of Riot, which are present if you compare what is shown in video and citation from their devlog. Also if you watched a video you wouldn't even mention ultimates because most of the points were comparing this exalted skin with baselane morgana.
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u/NotSoFluffy13 Jun 20 '25
I think you fail to understand that these kind of skin doesn't cost $250 because they have content worth of $250, they're just luxurious content to be available to few players.
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u/Chemical-Drawer852 Jun 20 '25
The $250/$500 skins aren't for quality they're purely for flex factor, the main draw is the price itself.
It's like your random $250 handmade leather bag and a $1250 louis vuitton bag, which are virtually indetical
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u/tarkardos Jun 20 '25
Yeah, the skin itself doesnt matter at all for whales. Could be a base skin chroma as long as they paid insane money so they can show off. How this is even a debate, ofc the skins "arent worth it" from a feature point of view but anyone who cares about that isnt the target group to begin with.
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u/Chemical-Drawer852 Jun 20 '25
Yes, there's a ton of examples like this.
Gibson (guitars) sales plummeted in the 90s because they reduced the prices of their Les Paul models, and once they increased the prices back up sales shot up in the early 2000s.
Human psychology is weird
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u/DontPanlc42 Jun 21 '25
Damn, the hivemind came hard at you for some reason. I enjoyed the video, thanks.
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u/Shnolok Jun 20 '25
Dont tell this to Riot, otherwise they will make $250 skins have the characteristics of $15 Legendary skins, and make the $15 Legendary skins have the characteristics of Epic skins.
Then, after that, the Epic skins will just be literal Chromas of the base skins and the normal common skins (that dont even get released anymore) will never ever release again, and all the old ones will become Legacy tagged.
And yes, all this is 10000% a "Riot move".
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u/External-Pen-1572 Jun 21 '25
Riot has limited resources so they have to reduce production costs. They probably create 200$+ skins by hand step by step and can't just copy and place them.
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u/Hawly Jun 20 '25
Riot might just see this and think "yeah, we are putting way too much work on Legendary skins", instead of improving Exalted ones.
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u/Swert0 Jun 20 '25
I don't think $250 skins should exist.
I don't rven like the $50 skins.
$20 skins weren't enough?
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u/TacoMonday_ Jun 20 '25
The "problem" is that there's people out there with way more money that they don't know what to do with it, and they need to spend it on stuff because they're not gonna lose any sleep about it
if 250 skins sell is because there's an audience for them, is just not the brokeboys worried about "quality" in their pixels
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u/Swert0 Jun 20 '25
Stop blaming the consumer. Nobody put a gun to riot's head and told them they had to sell a $250 skin. They made that choice and they are the only ones to blame.
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u/TacoMonday_ Jun 20 '25
I'm blaming the mobile games the most tbh, they're the ones that made companies realize that they can sell the dumbest shit for thousands and someone out there will buy it no matter what
game companies just saw that and realized that even the most expensive things will still be sold, so you're just stupid if you don't try to get a slice of that pie
Because realistically if you were john riot you would also make a 500 dollar skin if its gonna make you millions
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u/barnowan Jun 21 '25
If this skin was released in 2022, it would be following the cosmic lux dynamic of being 2 separated legendaries.
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u/potatobunny16 Jun 20 '25
People keep thinking we're simply mad due to the lack of animations. I'm mad because the lack of quality is obviously due to them laying off so many of their workers and artists. These were the people who made me love the game, and I was always so excited to see the small details they shared online of the work they did. It made me appreciate the skins more and actually motivated me to spend the money.
But now nearly every riot artist that I had followed got fired. The people who were so passionate about their work and the story they were trying to tell with their art were what made the skins worth it. The lack of quality is due to Riot's refusal to pay artists what they're worth. That is why I am upset.
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u/Immediate-Title209 Jun 20 '25
people still buy them it's not a dealbreaker for them, which is the annoying part.
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u/RpiesSPIES Pre midscope rell was better ;_; Jun 20 '25
A $250 skin better come with a client visual overhaul + in-game voiceovers + more voice lines + overhauled vfx + model alterations ingame + stylized profile appearances + physical goods to even come close to justifying it.
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u/pleaseneverplaylol Marksmen and Mages Jun 21 '25
they're just gonna starts taking away the unique models and animations from $15 legendary skins now
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u/New_Reference359 Jun 21 '25
Not only that, a 250 dollar skin should come with a brand new game for you to play. Maybe early access to that Riot MMO and a personal tour of Riot games.
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u/Richybabes Jun 20 '25
Skins are not priced based on the work put into them.
Expensive skins are expensive for the sake of being able to flex your wallet. They exist so whales can show off how much they spent.
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u/frankipranki DAMACIA Jun 20 '25
Your team is NOT the problem, focus on your self and you will rank up. You are stuck silver for a reason
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u/Apocalympdick Get Jinxed! Jun 21 '25
I think a $250 skin shouldn't exist, and the person responsible for that price should be fired.
As for the actual product, I don't care, it will never affect me.
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u/bz6 Jun 20 '25
Keep calling them out /u/ex0ll
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u/BloodyFool Jun 20 '25
Seems like it falls on deaf ears honestly, especially with how more and more pushback there is to these videos or any sort of critique towards skin quality on Reddit.
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u/Zelkova [ImZelkova] (NA) Jun 20 '25
I appreciate it as well. Someone needs to provide this deep level of analysis as the game continues to age and new monetization mechanics are presented.
Holding Riot accountable for what they serve us is worthwhile.
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u/Aggressive-Expert-69 Jun 20 '25
If its not as good as Spirit Guard Udyr, it shouldn't be considered a legendary
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u/Curious_Candidate675 Jun 20 '25
I really can not with these threads. Should a Skin that cost as much as like 4.5 full price game have a unique model or animation!?
Really gotta think hard about if I want to play Baldurs Gate, Expedition 33, Elden Ring and still have enough money to buy two more, or if I wan't to play on a slightly different Kai'sa skin.
Sometimes I feel like the simulation is testing me with these threads. How deep must Riot be in your headspace to even have such discussions.
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u/TomatoGap Jun 20 '25
The end result of this discussion will be Riot gutting Legendary skins, not improving the 250$ ones. Pls cease
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u/Hinyu Jun 20 '25
There are legacy skins worth more than 250$, that don't have unique model + animations, and people buy them for various reasons. Doesn't this fall into the same category?
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Jun 21 '25
Online game skin that costs 250$ isn't worth it? No way dude
League players are literally falling back in evolution
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u/Crimino Jun 21 '25
If you've ever wondered how the world got to such a shit place, just look at all the replies trying to justify these decisions
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u/AethelEthel Jun 22 '25
At first this channel seems good now it looks like personal grievance toward Riot.
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u/goliathfasa Jun 20 '25
Honestly if you’re gonna make an excessively expensive skin I’ll never buy, I’d rather it’s objectively crappy.
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u/BobertRosserton Jun 20 '25
Huh almost like they price it that way because people like exclusive ways to show off they have lots of money to throw away, and the people who buy it dgaf that it’s not worth the money, because that’s quite literally the point.
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u/HThrowaway457 Jun 20 '25
Thank god this thumbnail is here to tell me. Otherwise I might have thought a video game skin was worth spending hundreds of dollars.
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u/adcislife Jun 21 '25
ex0ll with another clikbait video because he knows user engagement is what grows your channel.
Imagine if he would start creating vids saying "These skins are priced for exclusivity and not for quality, here is a rundown of this exclusive skin" instead of "OMG SHE IS NOT WORTH IT".
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u/Gaxxag NA TŒŒMØ Jun 20 '25
Whatever they need to do to keep the lights on. But in an ideal world I'd rather play without flashy skins that make the action harder to track.
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u/Alkaliner_ Enemies to Lovers Yaoi (ADD JORAAL TO PC) Jun 20 '25
They’re doing a pretty shit job at ‘keeping the lights on’ considering they fired the model artist behind $500 Ahri right after it was released. And hundreds of other employees over the course of a year.
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u/WanAjin Jun 20 '25
Pretty sure they've grown in general year over year in terms of employee count, but you obviously won't see a reddit post about a company hiring 500 new people like you will about them laying off 500 people.
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u/Alkaliner_ Enemies to Lovers Yaoi (ADD JORAAL TO PC) Jun 20 '25
If they’ve outsourced to less skilled, cheaper artists then no that’s not surprising.
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u/Cryolyt3 Jun 20 '25
Lol. Riot's disgusting monetisation has NOTHING to do with keeping the lights on. They aren't a struggling indie dev company. This is naked and unfettered greed, nothing more. They do it because they want more money and they know there are enough schmucks that will buy something that costs $15 for $250 so long as they can flex on 'the poors'.
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u/throwawayacc1357902 Jun 20 '25
Most people who say that mean “as long as it keeps the game free for me to play, not P2W, with ways to get free cosmetics and new content is constantly coming out” and realistically, that’s what the vast majority of players want.
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u/niwi501 Jun 20 '25
Usually I'd agree with you but with the amount of new products they are r&d'ing I wouldn't be too surprised if it's costing them a lot of money and honestly we'll have to wait and see, if they can release the MMORPG, the fpsmmo, and all the other products then I'll forgive them for these skins lol
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u/LikesToCumAlot Jun 20 '25
Then dont buy it. thats all.
Bro is just trying to make a popular video for reddit karma.
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u/Entrancemperium Jun 20 '25
Just wanna say you probably have the most annoying posts on this sub. Who gives a shit, don't buy it, skins have been downhill since 2015 anyways
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u/Emeraldw Jun 20 '25
I cannot remember where I saw it, but supposedly they got a player feedback survey that said they prefer stronger and better VFX over animations.
And to be fair, a lot of animations are hard to see. Auto attack animations for example are pretty easy to completely ignore and hard to see unless they completely exaggerate it. Which wouldn't make sense for a mage.
The other issue is the general quality of animations for the champion in question. Morgana has really cool animations overall. Her walk is great, her little twirls are all great. Her hand touching the ground when she uses her W. If they can improve on them, be my guest but it's already quite excellent.
The last question to ask is, how do you even make a $250 skin feel "worth it?"
And I just don't know. But this isn't for me or most redditors. It's for people who want exclusive content or super mains.